** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,234
    Appreciate the well thought out response. That's honestly better than most on both sides. I'm still trying to figure out what's all dark about that.

    1. You can agree/disagree with abortion being a State issue as you have. But, he (and the Supreme Court) didn't end abortion
    2. There were literally no wars when Trump left office.  So, maybe old war ways (GOP is probably more responsible historically, though kind of funny it's the Dems that are the war hawks now) aren't the best either. Maybe, there's another way - friends close, enemies closer...  Whatever Trump was doing worked.  Abraham Accords. Look 'em up.  Ending funding to Iran.  Yes, talking to Putin, China and N. Korea. I don't know. I think Ukraine would rather our President talk to Putin than getting bombed on a daily basis.
    3.  Basically the same as issue 1 - you're worried about the Supreme Court make up. Fair.  However, Judges aren't supposed to make law as the liberals on the court try to do. They are just there to interpret it. Nothing stops laws being made that judges can't interpret the way you don't want them to. Make them. Your problem is with the Legislature not the Supreme Court.  They don't make law. They just interpret them.  There's no Federal Law for or against abortion and there's no Constitutional right to one. The Supreme Court properly adjudicated this case according to the law of the land and the Constitution (for the record - I'm pro-choice. I do think there should be limits in timing, but other than that, while morally I'm torn, none of my business. That being said, legally, this was the correct decision).

    But none of this portends end of days (I know you weren't the commenter). Funny folks think they do. As opposed to funding Iran to run a proxy war on the only Democracy in the Middle East.  
    1. Trump promised and delivered justices to end Roe, which is essentially promising to end women’s right to privacy.

    2. Forgetting the Afghan war? The last two wars with American boots on the ground were started by GOP presidents. Trump promised to end the afghan war, but when it became too complicated to deliver, he reneged on his promise. Ignoring Putins aggressions will only lead to more problems. Just ask his neighbors.

    3. there is absolutely a constitutional right - how is forcing a rape victim, or a woman carrying a potentially deadly unviable pregnancy, how are these women receiving equal protection under the law?
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,386
    teskeinc said:
    I don’t think much. Covid is still around. A lot of people got sick in Ireland when Ed did earlier this year. Lockdowns hurt worse, people lost businesses, kids lost a year of education. All because of the 6 foot rule that Fauci made up. People thought masks really worked. 
    Only the KN95s did anything. People still wearing masks now 🤦‍♂️.

    Majority of people that died had underlying factors. Friends of mine that died were overweight, diabetic etc. Maybe a more focused approach on them in hindsight. Forcing vaccines and mask mandates, lockdowns were wrong. 

    I don’t blame Trump or Biden on anything they mishandled. What does that solve? It’s something that is a once in a lifetime (hopefully) and I wouldn’t wish that on any President to have to deal with. 



    Did someone hack your account?
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,091
    njhaley1 said:
    A few pages back, @pjl44 brought up the very important point that, despite what you or I might think about the whole situation, Trump and Harris are still polling neck and neck for all intents and purposes.  Given what you and I firmly believe in our hearts about the guy, why is this race so damn close?  

    There are moderate/independents who still need reaching, and for some like @pjl44 that requires a real thorough discussion of policy.  Can't fault them for that and I agree, despite being sold on Harris by a long shot. 
    Thanks, that's a really good summary. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,540
    David Plouffe is working for the Harris campaign. He was Obama's guy. He was really big on new registration. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,993
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,234
    David Plouffe is working for the Harris campaign. He was Obama's guy. He was really big on new registration. 

    One reason I have hope Harris can outperform the state polls. Plouffe maybe the best campaign mind of modern times. Bidens win 2020 gets an * due to the unusual and overwhelming nature of mail in ballots, and the 2016 Hilary team was a dumpster fire.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,845
    This is what's funny.  You'd think the hippies and grunge anti-establishment folks would be all for Trump.  But, alas, they've been exposed for what they are. Which, the only true mod, Pete agrees with.

    All the old guard on both sides hate Trump.  Why??????
    Hippies and anti-establishment folks would be all for Trump? you can't be serious. that draining the swamp and tearing down the system bullshit was all a ruse. he was for tearing down restrictions on HIMSELF and other rich people, not the common man. This is basic shit. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,993
    I wonder how they track interent viewers also?


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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,845
    teskeinc said:
    I don’t think much. Covid is still around. A lot of people got sick in Ireland when Ed did earlier this year. Lockdowns hurt worse, people lost businesses, kids lost a year of education. All because of the 6 foot rule that Fauci made up. People thought masks really worked. 
    Only the KN95s did anything. People still wearing masks now 🤦‍♂️.

    Majority of people that died had underlying factors. Friends of mine that died were overweight, diabetic etc. Maybe a more focused approach on them in hindsight. Forcing vaccines and mask mandates, lockdowns were wrong. 

    I don’t blame Trump or Biden on anything they mishandled. What does that solve? It’s something that is a once in a lifetime (hopefully) and I wouldn’t wish that on any President to have to deal with. 



    if masks don't work why does your dentist or surgeon wear one? do you tell them to take it off before they work on you since they are worthless?

    many, many people without underlying factors died. that's well documented. another right wing talking point with no basis in fact. just anecdotes. 

    trump absolutely should get credit for warp speed. Unfortunately, he later decided to bow to his low IQ supporters because they rejected it, and he went into full idiot mode with regards to minimizing transmission. 

    covid is still around, but, if you have been paying any attention the last 4 years, it mutates to a point where it will ALWAYS be around (i.e: no longer killing its host). that's what happened with the flu in the early 1900's. that's what happened now, and what they suspected, even from the early days of the pandemic. 

    lockdowns did help (the data showed lower transmission and deaths during lockdown phases), but obviously that couldn't be a permanent measure. they had no choice to do that until there was more data and/or a vaccine. 

    the 6 foot rule was, to any person with a brain, was obviously a guideline to stop people from congregating in close groups. At the time, they didn't think it was airborne, so the 6 foot rule made sense based on how far water droplets projected into the air and how long they hung there. 

    the fact that, 4 years in, you still don't understand any of this, is just absurd. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    if masks don't work why does your dentist or surgeon wear one? do you tell them to take it off before they work on you since they are worthless?

    many, many people without underlying factors died. that's well documented. another right wing talking point with no basis in fact. just anecdotes. 

    trump absolutely should get credit for warp speed. Unfortunately, he later decided to bow to his low IQ supporters because they rejected it, and he went into full idiot mode with regards to minimizing transmission. 

    covid is still around, but, if you have been paying any attention the last 4 years, it mutates to a point where it will ALWAYS be around (i.e: no longer killing its host). that's what happened with the flu in the early 1900's. that's what happened now, and what they suspected, even from the early days of the pandemic. 

    lockdowns did help (the data showed lower transmission and deaths during lockdown phases), but obviously that couldn't be a permanent measure. they had no choice to do that until there was more data and/or a vaccine. 

    the 6 foot rule was, to any person with a brain, was obviously a guideline to stop people from congregating in close groups. At the time, they didn't think it was airborne, so the 6 foot rule made sense based on how far water droplets projected into the air and how long they hung there. 

    the fact that, 4 years in, you still don't understand any of this, is just absurd. 
    I’m sure you’re on your 8th vaccine by now. Thank you for your service. 
  • njhaley1njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 850
    edited August 2024
    if masks don't work why does your dentist or surgeon wear one? do you tell them to take it off before they work on you since they are worthless?

    many, many people without underlying factors died. that's well documented. another right wing talking point with no basis in fact. just anecdotes. 

    trump absolutely should get credit for warp speed. Unfortunately, he later decided to bow to his low IQ supporters because they rejected it, and he went into full idiot mode with regards to minimizing transmission. 

    covid is still around, but, if you have been paying any attention the last 4 years, it mutates to a point where it will ALWAYS be around (i.e: no longer killing its host). that's what happened with the flu in the early 1900's. that's what happened now, and what they suspected, even from the early days of the pandemic. 

    lockdowns did help (the data showed lower transmission and deaths during lockdown phases), but obviously that couldn't be a permanent measure. they had no choice to do that until there was more data and/or a vaccine. 

    the 6 foot rule was, to any person with a brain, was obviously a guideline to stop people from congregating in close groups. At the time, they didn't think it was airborne, so the 6 foot rule made sense based on how far water droplets projected into the air and how long they hung there. 

    the fact that, 4 years in, you still don't understand any of this, is just absurd. 
    Not worth your time, Hugh. So many factually incorrect statements, and in the end it's another effort to drag people into a pointless side discussion. It very succinctly speaks to how TFG has setback healthcare in this country DECADES. And to what end? To the benefit of our adversaries, that's what. 

    Darwin will sort this all out. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,540
    Please don't feed the trolls. Thank you. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,732
    Hippies and anti-establishment folks would be all for Trump? you can't be serious. that draining the swamp and tearing down the system bullshit was all a ruse. he was for tearing down restrictions on HIMSELF and other rich people, not the common man. This is basic shit. 
    Yeah he’s delusional if he thinks the hippie type would align themselves with some vile piece of 💩 like trumpollini 😂😂 let me just keep on laughing! 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Huge bounce for Trump after the RFK Jr endorsement. Some are saying 5%. Is it too late to replace Kamala if polls show she can’t win?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,768
    Nate Silver says it’s about half a point. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,721
    Nate Silver says it’s about half a point. 
    Many some are saying though, so it has to be true. Who are Dems going to replace Kamala with when she trails in the polls?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,467
    teskeinc said:
    Huge bounce for Trump after the RFK Jr endorsement. Some are saying 5%. Is it too late to replace Kamala if polls show she can’t win?
    Wow.  Where's the link to the poll that was in the field yesterday afternoon, hit a statistically significant number of respondents, and produced the results to you by 5:29, 24 hours later.  
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Genius move by Republicans though. The DNC convention was out of the news cycle before any attendees boarded a plane Friday.

    Do those 6% of voters just not vote? Do they go with who their candidate endorsed? Hoping RFK plays a role in a Trump cabinet? Do Democrats think they will come back to vote Kamala after she blew him off and was shit on by the party? 

    Some of those swing states were decided by razor thin margins in 2020. If Trump wins close, this potentially was the deciding factor. 

    Massive mistake by Dems to not reach out to RFK Jr.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,721
    teskeinc said:
    Genius move by Republicans though. The DNC convention was out of the news cycle before any attendees boarded a plane Friday.

    Do those 6% of voters just not vote? Do they go with who their candidate endorsed? Hoping RFK plays a role in a Trump cabinet? Do Democrats think they will come back to vote Kamala after she blew him off and was shit on by the party? 

    Some of those swing states were decided by razor thin margins in 2020. If Trump wins close, this potentially was the deciding factor. 

    Massive mistake by Dems to not reach out to RFK Jr.
    Dems don’t need cray-cray in their party nor that kind of weird.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,467
    teskeinc said:
    Genius move by Republicans though. The DNC convention was out of the news cycle before any attendees boarded a plane Friday.

    Do those 6% of voters just not vote? Do they go with who their candidate endorsed? Hoping RFK plays a role in a Trump cabinet? Do Democrats think they will come back to vote Kamala after she blew him off and was shit on by the party? 

    Some of those swing states were decided by razor thin margins in 2020. If Trump wins close, this potentially was the deciding factor. 

    Massive mistake by Dems to not reach out to RFK Jr.
    For real? He reached out to the Harris campaign first to trade an endorsement for a cabinet position.  She said no. 
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    edited August 2024
    Dems don’t need cray-cray in their party nor that kind of weird.
    They need votes. I don’t know much about him, I did hear a short interview about the food industry. If you can get past his voice he actually is very knowledgeable about what is wrong and the corruption in the governing bodies of our food.

    Anyone who has spent time in Europe, you know the difference of how you feel after you eat compared to the US. 

    Both parties need a guy like that to go after the poison of processed foods and all the additives that are only approved in the US that literally poisons us and our kids.
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  • njhaley1njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 850
    Many some are saying though, so it has to be true. Who are Dems going to replace Kamala with when she trails in the polls?
    Let's ask Clooney and Pelosi! Help us, Hollywood! 
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    njhaley1 said:
    Let's ask Clooney and Pelosi! Help us, Hollywood! 
    Maybe have a benefit concert promising Taylor Swift and Beyoncé…. then the only one who comes out is Kamala leaving everyone disappointed like Thursday. 😂😂😂😂
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,732
    teskeinc said:
    Maybe have a benefit concert promising Taylor Swift and Beyoncé…. then the only one who comes out is Kamala leaving everyone disappointed like Thursday. 😂😂😂😂
    These artists knew it was KH night they didn’t want to take away from her night! By tomorrow you will be saying worm brain bumped the idiot 15% because people are saying are you sure you’re not the pillow guy? 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,467
    edited August 2024
    teskeinc said:
    Maybe have a benefit concert promising Taylor Swift and Beyoncé…. then the only one who comes out is Kamala leaving everyone disappointed like Thursday. 😂😂😂😂
    Do you think Hulk and Amber Rose can join? They are first rate entertainment.  You must be proud. 

    Hey,  where's the 5% bump link? Surely you didn't just make that shit up,  did you?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,768
    teskeinc said:
    Maybe have a benefit concert promising Taylor Swift and Beyoncé…. then the only one who comes out is Kamala leaving everyone disappointed like Thursday. 😂😂😂😂

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,768
    I mean, it’s embarrassing that that was the best zing you could come up with
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,732
    teskeinc said:
    Maybe have a benefit concert promising Taylor Swift and Beyoncé…. then the only one who comes out is Kamala leaving everyone disappointed like Thursday. 😂😂😂😂
    https://news.northeastern.edu/2024/08/23/rfk-jr-trump-endorsement/
    Here’s your 5% bump 😂😂
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