The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views.
What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.” Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?
Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted.
Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities. Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important. It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.
So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID?
This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.
Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID.
Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate.
Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?
If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?
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1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
The condescension and unearned arrogance embedded in a worldview like that is something that Democrats should try to dispel but I see waaaaay too many state proudly
I see way too many examples of these people first hand to dispel that assessment as untrue. Not that there aren't similar people on the left, but I've seen many more on the right living in a rural district and having grown up in a farming community. These people have a particular skill set that they are good at so it's not that they're dumb, but when it come to critical thinking and analysis, it's a completely different baseline approach that flies in the face of reality. It's almost like they are proud to not seek truth and only go by the ramblings of a 78 year old pathological liar. It's baffling.
And some examples are on display in this very forum/thread.
The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views.
What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.” Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?
Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted.
Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities. Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important. It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.
So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID?
This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.
Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID.
Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate.
Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?
If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?
I already explained why. It goes back to Jim Crow. Like I said, you may disagree with it, but there is an actual historical precedent of suppressing minority votes with different types of poll taxes and hurdles. There is no actual precedent of Democrats pushing people to vote illegally.
The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views.
What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.” Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?
Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted.
Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities. Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important. It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.
So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID?
This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.
Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID.
Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate.
Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?
If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?
You are voting for a guy that tried to strong arm the GA Sec of State to "find" 12000 more votes for him. A guy that attempted to stop the certification of the vote via Pence. A guy who was such a fucking little bitch that he didn't even show up for the transfer of power.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views.
What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.” Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?
Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted.
Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities. Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important. It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.
So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID?
This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.
Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID.
Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate.
Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?
If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?
I just told you why, and using a right citizens have as leverage to force people to do something because government knows what’s best for us is a no go for me.
They’re in court because each state creates laws to maintain integrity of elections.
The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views.
What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.” Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?
Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted.
Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities. Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important. It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.
So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID?
This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.
Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID.
Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate.
Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?
If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?
There is no actual precedent of Democrats pushing people to vote illegally.
On the contrary, most prosecuted cases of illegal voting that I've read about over the past several years have been...republicans.
The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views.
What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.” Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?
Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted.
Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities. Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important. It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.
So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID?
This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.
Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID.
Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate.
Why do Democrats fight voter ID tooth and nail when literally everything else you do as an adult requires ID?
If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?
There is no actual precedent of Democrats pushing people to vote illegally.
On the contrary, most prosecuted cases of illegal voting that I've read about over the past several years have been...republicans.
I don’t care if it benefits Republicans or Democrats. This isn’t the late 1800s or early 1900s. It’s common sense to ensure the integrity of everyone voting that if you registered to vote, you show your ID to vote.
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
I think a good trade off for voter ID laws would be a national holiday for Election Day and mandatory registration to vote and well as universal mail in and absentee voting.
If non citizen voting is a real issue we need to deal with it. I haven’t seen any evidence it’s an issue though. I think expanding the opportunity to vote is more important.
I don’t care if it benefits Republicans or Democrats. This isn’t the late 1800s or early 1900s. It’s common sense to ensure the integrity of everyone voting that if you registered to vote, you show your ID to vote.
I honestly am not particularly passionate about this issue either way. But you asked why Dems didn't want them, as a platform, and we explained why. Having an ID is not going to stop immigrants from voting since you can get an ID or DL even if you don't have a license. The whole concept of someone that is an immigrant pretending they are me (as I am a registered voter) and voting in my stead doesn't exactly keep me up at night.
And BTW, there were Crow laws and taxes legally into the 60's and illegally into the 70's, well within the time that many of our representatives and voters sill remember and lived. It's not exactly ancient history to them.
both parties play the refs in regards to voting. There’s more examples of voter disenfranchisement than people who shouldn’t be voting, voting. Let’s make sure anyone who wants to vote can in any way possible first before we dive into seeing if people who shouldn’t be voting are.
If non citizen voting is a real issue we need to deal with it. I haven’t seen any evidence it’s an issue though. I think expanding the opportunity to vote is more important.
That's the really the issue we are talking about here. One party wants to ease the hurdles to voting and one wants to make it more difficult. But sure... talk to me about who is afraid of "democracy".
I don’t care if it benefits Republicans or Democrats. This isn’t the late 1800s or early 1900s. It’s common sense to ensure the integrity of everyone voting that if you registered to vote, you show your ID to vote.
The common sense in this situation is that voter ID laws have no effect on deterring voter fraud.
I think a good trade off for voter ID laws would be a national holiday for Election Day and mandatory registration to vote and well as universal mail in and absentee voting.
You are speaking my language. All of this is common sense for those rational people who want to see more people in this country vote.
I don’t care if it benefits Republicans or Democrats. This isn’t the late 1800s or early 1900s. It’s common sense to ensure the integrity of everyone voting that if you registered to vote, you show your ID to vote.
Have you looked into which states do not require voter ID be presented and what their control procedures are?
How would an illegal show up to vote and say they were someone else and then miraculously have their signature match the signature on file for whomever they are saying they are?
You seem to have been duped again. You think people just walk in and either vote without having any record whatsoever or they just go in and say they are someone else and there is no procedure for verifying that.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Does America trust our election process after 2020?
According to a poll, 38% of Americans don’t believe Joe Biden was legitimately elected president. What...Show More
Former President Donald Trump and Speaker Mike Johnson have a joint appearance at Mar-a-Lago Friday afternoon where they are discussing "election integrity."
The topic is a chief priority for Trump, the presumptive GOP nominee, who continues to falsely claim that he won the 2020 election. Trump's calls for "election integrity" come in an election year when there is expected to be another tight matchup against President Joe Biden.
Johnson has echoed Trump's calls for "election integrity" and was one of the 147 GOP lawmakers who voted to overturn the results of the 2020 election. He also led the charge to get 125 of his Republican colleagues to sign an amicus brief to the Supreme Court, supporting Texas' lawsuit that would have invalidated the election results in key battleground states.
An Associated Press investigation found fewer than 475 cases of voter fraud in six battleground states during the 2020 presidential election -- a number far too little to have make any different in the outcome of that election. Arizona had the highest number of potential fraud cases of the states AP examined with 198 of the 3.4 million votes cast -- and that amount of potential fraud cases comprised less than 2% of the margin by which Biden won, according to the AP. In Nevada, the AP found that local officials identified between 93 and 98 potential fraud cases out of 1.4 million ballots cast, representing less than one-third of 1% of Biden’s margin of victory.
Trump has continued to falsely claim he won the 2020 election in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, but he lost all three of those states in the last presidential election. In Pennsylvania, Biden won by 81,660; in Michigan, Biden won by about 21,000 votes; in Wisconsin, Biden won by more than 20,000.
The United States National Intelligence Council, comprised of the United States' intelligence and security agencies, announced in 2021 that it found "no indications that any foreign actor attempted to alter any technical aspect of the voting process in the 2020 elections."
Trump has also criticized voting methods.
Trump routinely disparages mail-in voting and has made unfounded claims about the process which he claims, in part, led to his 2020 election loss. Despite his repeated claims about mail-in vote fraud, no widespread fraud has been found. A Washington Post analysis of data collected by three vote-by-mail states with help from the nonprofit Electronic Registration Information Center found that there were 372 possible cases of double voting or voting on behalf of deceased people out of about 14.6 million votes cast by mail in the 2016 and 2018 general elections. That comes out to 0.0025%.
"Mail-in voting is totally corrupt. Get that through your head. It has to be," Trump said at a rally in Michigan in February, repeating unfounded claims about mail-in voting.
Trump has also continued to float claims against voting machines, pushing for paper ballots instead.
"I will secure our elections. We are going to secure our elections. Our goal will be one-day voting with paper ballots -- very simple -- and a voter ID, but until then, Republicans must win. Landslide. We want it to be too big, too big to rig," Trump said at an April 2 rally in Wisconsin, where he continued to falsely claim he won the state in 2020.
However, the vast majority of Americans already vote with hand-marked paper ballots or on touch-screen machines that print one.
Residents of Lansing, Michigan, cast their votes Nov. 3, 2020.
Trump and his allies have claimed that Democrats are "importing voters" to allow non-U.S. citizens participate in the U.S. elections.
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"That's why they are allowing these people to come in -- people that don't speak our language -- they are signing them up to vote," Trump said at a January rally in Iowa.
While election officials and law enforcement authorities have found cases of non-citizens voting or attempting to vote over the years -- either by mistake or with malicious intent -- it has not been enough to affect the any outcome of an election, the Washington Post reported.
PolitiFact reported that it has found no effort by Democrats to register people in the country illegally.
"Most noncitizens don't want to risk jail time (or deportation if they are here illegally) by casting a ballot. Election officials take several steps to ensure that only eligible voters cast ballots," PolitiFact reported.
In Georgia, for example, the attorney general's office announced in 2022 that the state had found a total of 1,634 cases of potential noncitizens registering to vote in the state since 1997 -- none of whom were permitted to vote.
Harris campaign to feature Wawa, cheesesteaks, and pretzels in Philly ads on debate day
Harris is testing her Philadelphia vocabulary in a new wave of ads coming to the city on debate day.
Vice President Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, appear at a campaign rally at Temple University's Liacouras Center Tuesday, Aug. 6, 2024.Tom Gralish / Staff Photographer
by Aliya SchneiderPublished Sept. 9, 2024, 8:28 p.m. ET
Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump will be speaking to the nation from Philadelphia’s debate stage Tuesday night, but they’ll also be courting support from voters in the city.
Harris’ campaign decided to show off its Philly knowledge as the Democratic nominee tries to reach voters in the reliably blue city in the all-important swing state of Pennsylvania. Her campaign announced plans to post Philly-themed advertisements throughout the city on Tuesday, including on billboards, food trucks, taxis, and with digital projections. The advertisements are expected to stay up for a couple of days.
Here are some of the Philly-themed Harris ads you may see around the City of Brotherly Love.
But in the case of the Harris ads, “wit” is a term of endorsement and shade, with cheese-whizzed letters declaring “Philly is wit Kamala Harris.”
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Another campaign advertisement shows a picture of Harris smiling under the word “wit,” and a photo of Trump under the word “nitwit.” Would “witout” have been a greater insult?
☕Wawa as in ‘waaa waaa’
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Philadelphia loves Wawa and will fiercely defend it any day against Sheetz. But here, the campaign used the Philly staple to mock Trump.
“When u want a quick coffee: WAWA,” the ad reads, with a picture of a coffee cup.
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“When people don’t show up to ur rally: WAAA WAAA,” the second part says, with a photo of Trump with his mouth hanging open.
In another jab at Trump, a Harris advertisement reads “Crowd size matters” with a full Philly pretzel pictured above Harris’ name. A mere piece of pretzel is pictured above Trump’s name.
A New York Times analysis across six states found that both candidates’ rallies drew comparatively sized audiences across three weeks in August. But experts also told The Times that crowd sizes do not directly relate to the outcome of the election.
I don’t care if it benefits Republicans or Democrats. This isn’t the late 1800s or early 1900s. It’s common sense to ensure the integrity of everyone voting that if you registered to vote, you show your ID to vote.
Have you looked into which states do not require voter ID be presented and what their control procedures are?
How would an illegal show up to vote and say they were someone else and then miraculously have their signature match the signature on file for whomever they are saying they are?
You seem to have been duped again. You think people just walk in and either vote without having any record whatsoever or they just go in and say they are someone else and there is no procedure for verifying that.
I’m in a state where everyone gets a mail in ballot whether they ask or not. My wife and I are both independents. We do not vote in Presidential primaries. This summer a ballot was mailed out for local elections, my wife got hers, I didn’t get mine. What happened to mine? I wasn’t planning on using it anyway. How do I know it wasn’t stolen and someone filled it out on my behalf?
Im ok with mail-in voting but I think they should be requested. You know when it’s coming, you initiated a request by phone or online and can follow up if you don’t receive it.
Like I said before, I don’t care who you think it benefits. You should have to provide ID to register to vote then show ID to vote in person. Mail in or absentee should be a signature verification.
And yes, Election Day should be a national holiday. Make voting as easy and legal as possible for all registered voters.
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1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
I don’t care if it benefits Republicans or Democrats. This isn’t the late 1800s or early 1900s. It’s common sense to ensure the integrity of everyone voting that if you registered to vote, you show your ID to vote.
Have you looked into which states do not require voter ID be presented and what their control procedures are?
How would an illegal show up to vote and say they were someone else and then miraculously have their signature match the signature on file for whomever they are saying they are?
You seem to have been duped again. You think people just walk in and either vote without having any record whatsoever or they just go in and say they are someone else and there is no procedure for verifying that.
I’m in a state where everyone gets a mail in ballot whether they ask or not. My wife and I are both independents. We do not vote in Presidential primaries. This summer a ballot was mailed out for local elections, my wife got hers, I didn’t get mine. What happened to mine? I wasn’t planning on using it anyway. How do I know it wasn’t stolen and someone filled it out on my behalf?
Im ok with mail-in voting but I think they should be requested. You know when it’s coming, you initiated a request by phone or online and can follow up if you don’t receive it.
Like I said before, I don’t care who you think it benefits. You should have to provide ID to register to vote then show ID to vote in person. Mail in or absentee should be a signature verification.
And yes, Election Day should be a national holiday. Make voting as easy and legal as possible for all registered voters.
yes...signature verification. In my example and yours that is the key. How would someone use your mail in ballot if they didn't know how to sign your name?
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I don’t care if it benefits Republicans or Democrats. This isn’t the late 1800s or early 1900s. It’s common sense to ensure the integrity of everyone voting that if you registered to vote, you show your ID to vote.
Have you looked into which states do not require voter ID be presented and what their control procedures are?
How would an illegal show up to vote and say they were someone else and then miraculously have their signature match the signature on file for whomever they are saying they are?
You seem to have been duped again. You think people just walk in and either vote without having any record whatsoever or they just go in and say they are someone else and there is no procedure for verifying that.
I’m in a state where everyone gets a mail in ballot whether they ask or not. My wife and I are both independents. We do not vote in Presidential primaries. This summer a ballot was mailed out for local elections, my wife got hers, I didn’t get mine. What happened to mine? I wasn’t planning on using it anyway. How do I know it wasn’t stolen and someone filled it out on my behalf?
Im ok with mail-in voting but I think they should be requested. You know when it’s coming, you initiated a request by phone or online and can follow up if you don’t receive it.
Like I said before, I don’t care who you think it benefits. You should have to provide ID to register to vote then show ID to vote in person. Mail in or absentee should be a signature verification.
And yes, Election Day should be a national holiday. Make voting as easy and legal as possible for all registered voters.
I don’t care if it benefits Republicans or Democrats. This isn’t the late 1800s or early 1900s. It’s common sense to ensure the integrity of everyone voting that if you registered to vote, you show your ID to vote.
Have you looked into which states do not require voter ID be presented and what their control procedures are?
How would an illegal show up to vote and say they were someone else and then miraculously have their signature match the signature on file for whomever they are saying they are?
You seem to have been duped again. You think people just walk in and either vote without having any record whatsoever or they just go in and say they are someone else and there is no procedure for verifying that.
I’m in a state where everyone gets a mail in ballot whether they ask or not. My wife and I are both independents. We do not vote in Presidential primaries. This summer a ballot was mailed out for local elections, my wife got hers, I didn’t get mine. What happened to mine? I wasn’t planning on using it anyway. How do I know it wasn’t stolen and someone filled it out on my behalf?
Im ok with mail-in voting but I think they should be requested. You know when it’s coming, you initiated a request by phone or online and can follow up if you don’t receive it.
Like I said before, I don’t care who you think it benefits. You should have to provide ID to register to vote then show ID to vote in person. Mail in or absentee should be a signature verification.
And yes, Election Day should be a national holiday. Make voting as easy and legal as possible for all registered voters.
I also live in an exclusive vote by mail state, and you can check the status of your ballot online, and if you didn’t get one, you should check your registration status as well as make sure your address is updated. They also do signature verification with the ballots.
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If Democrats believe in saving Democracy why are they fighting in courts to remove candidates from certain states and keep candidates on ballots in others? Wouldn’t they just trust the democratic process?
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
And BTW, there were Crow laws and taxes legally into the 60's and illegally into the 70's, well within the time that many of our representatives and voters sill remember and lived. It's not exactly ancient history to them.
How would an illegal show up to vote and say they were someone else and then miraculously have their signature match the signature on file for whomever they are saying they are?
You seem to have been duped again. You think people just walk in and either vote without having any record whatsoever or they just go in and say they are someone else and there is no procedure for verifying that.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Fact checking Trump's claims about 'election integrity'
Trump has continued to falsely claim he won the 2020 election in several states.
Does America trust our election process after 2020?
Former President Donald Trump and Speaker Mike Johnson have a joint appearance at Mar-a-Lago Friday afternoon where they are discussing "election integrity."
The topic is a chief priority for Trump, the presumptive GOP nominee, who continues to falsely claim that he won the 2020 election. Trump's calls for "election integrity" come in an election year when there is expected to be another tight matchup against President Joe Biden.
Johnson has echoed Trump's calls for "election integrity" and was one of the 147 GOP lawmakers who voted to overturn the results of the 2020 election. He also led the charge to get 125 of his Republican colleagues to sign an amicus brief to the Supreme Court, supporting Texas' lawsuit that would have invalidated the election results in key battleground states.
MORE: Trump to hold Mar-a-Lago joint appearance with Johnson amid speakership threat
ABC News is fact checking some of Trump's previous and false comments on elections and voting ahead of the joint appearance with Johnson.
State and federal courts have dismissed more than 50 lawsuits across six states from Trump and his allies aiming to overturn the results of the 2020 election. In many of the cases, Trump pushed thinly supported allegations of election misconduct and fraud.
MORE: A timeline of Donald Trump's election denial claims, which Republican politicians increasingly embrace
An Associated Press investigation found fewer than 475 cases of voter fraud in six battleground states during the 2020 presidential election -- a number far too little to have make any different in the outcome of that election. Arizona had the highest number of potential fraud cases of the states AP examined with 198 of the 3.4 million votes cast -- and that amount of potential fraud cases comprised less than 2% of the margin by which Biden won, according to the AP. In Nevada, the AP found that local officials identified between 93 and 98 potential fraud cases out of 1.4 million ballots cast, representing less than one-third of 1% of Biden’s margin of victory.
Trump has continued to falsely claim he won the 2020 election in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, but he lost all three of those states in the last presidential election. In Pennsylvania, Biden won by 81,660; in Michigan, Biden won by about 21,000 votes; in Wisconsin, Biden won by more than 20,000.
The United States National Intelligence Council, comprised of the United States' intelligence and security agencies, announced in 2021 that it found "no indications that any foreign actor attempted to alter any technical aspect of the voting process in the 2020 elections."
Trump has also criticized voting methods.
Trump routinely disparages mail-in voting and has made unfounded claims about the process which he claims, in part, led to his 2020 election loss. Despite his repeated claims about mail-in vote fraud, no widespread fraud has been found. A Washington Post analysis of data collected by three vote-by-mail states with help from the nonprofit Electronic Registration Information Center found that there were 372 possible cases of double voting or voting on behalf of deceased people out of about 14.6 million votes cast by mail in the 2016 and 2018 general elections. That comes out to 0.0025%.
"Mail-in voting is totally corrupt. Get that through your head. It has to be," Trump said at a rally in Michigan in February, repeating unfounded claims about mail-in voting.
MORE: 'A great clash': Mail-in voting emerges as main target in renewed voting-rights battle
Trump has also continued to float claims against voting machines, pushing for paper ballots instead.
"I will secure our elections. We are going to secure our elections. Our goal will be one-day voting with paper ballots -- very simple -- and a voter ID, but until then, Republicans must win. Landslide. We want it to be too big, too big to rig," Trump said at an April 2 rally in Wisconsin, where he continued to falsely claim he won the state in 2020.
However, the vast majority of Americans already vote with hand-marked paper ballots or on touch-screen machines that print one.
MORE: New RNC zeroes in on 'election integrity,' hires Trump ally who denied 2020 results
Trump and his allies have claimed that Democrats are "importing voters" to allow non-U.S. citizens participate in the U.S. elections.
"That's why they are allowing these people to come in -- people that don't speak our language -- they are signing them up to vote," Trump said at a January rally in Iowa.
While election officials and law enforcement authorities have found cases of non-citizens voting or attempting to vote over the years -- either by mistake or with malicious intent -- it has not been enough to affect the any outcome of an election, the Washington Post reported.
PolitiFact reported that it has found no effort by Democrats to register people in the country illegally.
"Most noncitizens don't want to risk jail time (or deportation if they are here illegally) by casting a ballot. Election officials take several steps to ensure that only eligible voters cast ballots," PolitiFact reported.
In Georgia, for example, the attorney general's office announced in 2022 that the state had found a total of 1,634 cases of potential noncitizens registering to vote in the state since 1997 -- none of whom were permitted to vote.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/10/harris-trump-crowd-size-debate-00178116
Harris campaign to feature Wawa, cheesesteaks, and pretzels in Philly ads on debate day
Harris is testing her Philadelphia vocabulary in a new wave of ads coming to the city on debate day.
by Aliya SchneiderPublished Sept. 9, 2024, 8:28 p.m. ET
Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump will be speaking to the nation from Philadelphia’s debate stage Tuesday night, but they’ll also be courting support from voters in the city.
Harris’ campaign decided to show off its Philly knowledge as the Democratic nominee tries to reach voters in the reliably blue city in the all-important swing state of Pennsylvania. Her campaign announced plans to post Philly-themed advertisements throughout the city on Tuesday, including on billboards, food trucks, taxis, and with digital projections. The advertisements are expected to stay up for a couple of days.
Here are some of the Philly-themed Harris ads you may see around the City of Brotherly Love.
🧀 ‘Wit’ as ‘with’ and ‘nitwit’
The Harris campaign leaned into the Philly term ”wit” in its ads, a word most commonly used when ordering a Philly cheesesteak to indicate whether you want fried onions. Ordering a “whiz wit” means that you want cheese whiz and fried onions on your sandwich, and a “whiz witout” means you want cheese whiz without onions. You could also order an “American wit” for American cheese, but don’t bother asking for Swiss cheese.
But in the case of the Harris ads, “wit” is a term of endorsement and shade, with cheese-whizzed letters declaring “Philly is wit Kamala Harris.”
Another campaign advertisement shows a picture of Harris smiling under the word “wit,” and a photo of Trump under the word “nitwit.” Would “witout” have been a greater insult?
☕Wawa as in ‘waaa waaa’
Philadelphia loves Wawa and will fiercely defend it any day against Sheetz. But here, the campaign used the Philly staple to mock Trump.
“When u want a quick coffee: WAWA,” the ad reads, with a picture of a coffee cup.
“When people don’t show up to ur rally: WAAA WAAA,” the second part says, with a photo of Trump with his mouth hanging open.
Trump is known to fixate on crowd sizes, both exaggerating the turnout at his rallies and falsely accusing photos of Harris’ rallies of being AI-generated.
🥨 Pretzels as crowd size
In another jab at Trump, a Harris advertisement reads “Crowd size matters” with a full Philly pretzel pictured above Harris’ name. A mere piece of pretzel is pictured above Trump’s name.
The Philadelphia-focused advertisements link to a website that contrasts the crowd size at Harris’ rally in August at Temple University’s Liacouras Center with a Trump rally that took place in the same venue earlier in the summer. The upper seating level was closed off for Trump’s June rally, and filled at Harris’.
A New York Times analysis across six states found that both candidates’ rallies drew comparatively sized audiences across three weeks in August. But experts also told The Times that crowd sizes do not directly relate to the outcome of the election.
🔔 Philadelphia Freedom
Another advertisement features a picture of Harris with the words “Philadelphia. Freedom.” in a possible nod to the Elton John classic “Philadelphia Freedom.” Or perhaps it’s acknowledging the debate’s location, the National Constitution Center — which is a short walk from Independence Hall, where the Declaration of Independence was signed.
“Freedom” has also been a common theme throughout Harris’ campaign, with the vice president embracing Beyoncé’s song “Freedom” for appearances and advertisements. At a Philadelphia appearance in July, she walked out to “Freedom” by Jon Batiste. And Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro revived his 2022 campaign’s “real freedom” motto when speaking in support of Harris’ campaign at the DNC last month.
Im ok with mail-in voting but I think they should be requested. You know when it’s coming, you initiated a request by phone or online and can follow up if you don’t receive it.
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
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j/k, but you can see that this would be the kind of comment you would get on a local news website comment section, haha.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."