** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,292
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Philly NJ said:

    ICE’s Baltimore office announces the arrest of their 153rd illegal alien sex offender of this fiscal year, a record. It’s a 2x previously deported Honduran national who re-entered the U.S. illegally again as a gotaway & was convicted of raping a Maryland resident.

    “This is a landmark arrest for ICE Baltimore, in that they secured a record 153 noncitizen sex offenders arrested in their area of operations during a single fiscal year, but more importantly, there are 153 victims who need not fear their predators because of ERO officers,” ICE says. “This arrest also highlights the amazing enforcement actions performed by ERO officers across our great nation.”

    Full ICE statement: https://ice.gov/news/releases/ero-baltimore-apprehends-honduran-national-convicted-rape-maryland

    Thanks to Harris, this is happening all over the U.S.
    As if white male Americans don’t sexually abuse women/men! 
    The narrative is they shouldn’t be in the country. If they weren’t here illegally the crime wouldn’t have been committed. National security is one of the most important duties of an administration. Biden/Harris failed miserably. But Trump killed the border bill the liberals cry! That bill only closed the border after 5000 crossed in a day. Criminals aren’t early risers tho so surely the border would have been closed by the time they got there if Trump would have made everyone vote yes. 

    Republicans have proposed laws requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote. Also having to show ID to vote. Democrats fight these laws even harder than restrictions on aborting babies. You ever ask yourself why?
    You have to show your ID to buy a beer, board a plane, play a slot machine but not to “save Democracy” voting? 


    He did kill it that is a fact! You believe that Juan who got here illegally last year is able to vote this coming election? Ok I can agree if this individual was not here illegally that crime wouldn’t happen to her, but that doesn’t change the fact that American citizens abuse women/men everyday, my wife is a forensic nurse for the SANE program here on Long Island she collects evidence of sexual assaults on a weekly basis Rapist come from every race ethnicity most are citizens of this country! 
    Yes every race and ethnicity. The Republicans are politicizing the crimes committed by illegals to show the failures by the current administration to secure the border. I don’t understand how passing a bill that allows 5000 illegals in every day before closing the border down is a viable solution. That’s still 1.8 million/year. Close to the 10 million in the 3.5 years under Biden/Harris. Is that really solving the problem? 
    BOO!
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Guess what...the democratic party represents their self interests. The GOP certainly doesn't.

    Low info voters that vote against their own interests (i.e. most low/middle income maga) are truly ignorant.
    This is also garbage. If someone isn’t liberal then they are low-info or ignorant? Do better as well please.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Guess what...the democratic party represents their self interests. The GOP certainly doesn't.

    Low info voters that vote against their own interests (i.e. most low/middle income maga) are truly ignorant.
    This is also garbage. If someone isn’t liberal then they are low-info or ignorant? Do better as well please.
    You mentioned low info voters (black and Latino) that only vote dem because that's how it's always been. I'm saying that the dems likely represent them better. I don't think you can argue your way out of that. The GOP empowers employers....not workers.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,185
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,185
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,185
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,274
    tbergs said:
    Philly NJ said:

    ICE’s Baltimore office announces the arrest of their 153rd illegal alien sex offender of this fiscal year, a record. It’s a 2x previously deported Honduran national who re-entered the U.S. illegally again as a gotaway & was convicted of raping a Maryland resident.

    “This is a landmark arrest for ICE Baltimore, in that they secured a record 153 noncitizen sex offenders arrested in their area of operations during a single fiscal year, but more importantly, there are 153 victims who need not fear their predators because of ERO officers,” ICE says. “This arrest also highlights the amazing enforcement actions performed by ERO officers across our great nation.”

    Full ICE statement: https://ice.gov/news/releases/ero-baltimore-apprehends-honduran-national-convicted-rape-maryland

    Thanks to Harris, this is happening all over the U.S.
    Did you even read this? I doubt it. Nice spin though. Better chastise Obama and Trump too since he's been doing this for over 15 years. Low information voters love this shit. Nice job.

    Edit: Forgot to include Bush since his first entry was before Obama was inaugurated. 

    Montgomery County Police arrested Amaya Jan. 8, 2009, and charged him with rape in the second degree.

    The Circuit Court for Montgomery County convicted Amaya Aug. 11, 2009, for the offense of rape in the second degree and sentenced him to 10 years in prison followed by three years of supervised probation. The court then suspended two years and six months of the prison sentence.

    ERO Baltimore lodged an immigration detainer against Amaya July 26, 2010, with the Maryland Correctional Institute-Hagerstown in Hagerstown.

    On Aug. 16, 2010, ERO Baltimore served Amaya with a final administrative removal order.

    The Maryland Correctional Institute-Hagerstown transferred custody of Amaya to ERO Baltimore June 20, 2013.

    On July 26, 2013, ERO Baltimore removed Amaya from the United States to Honduras.

    U.S. Border Patrol apprehended Amaya July 27, 2016, after he unlawfully reentered the United States near Hidalgo, Texas. Border Patrol officials issued Amaya a notice of intent/decision to reinstate prior removal order.

    The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas in McAllen convicted Amaya Jan. 3, 2017, of unlawful entry after removal and sentenced him to 30 months in federal prison.

    ERO Dallas took custody of Amaya Sept. 28, 2018, following his incarceration at the Great Plains Correctional Institute near Hinton, Oklahoma.

    On Nov. 2, 2018, ERO Dallas removed Amaya from the United States to Honduras.

    Amaya unlawfully reentered the United States on an unknown date, at an unknown location, without being inspected, admitted or paroled by a U.S. immigration official.

    Officers from ERO Baltimore’s Criminal Apprehension Program arrested Amaya Aug. 29 in Montgomery Village and issued him a notice of intent/decision to reinstate prior removal order. Amaya remains in ERO custody.

    it's so ridiculous to blame a presidential candidate for every breach of the law that occurs while they were in office...while ignoring the breaches of law personally performed by the candidate they support

    Ignoring.  I like that word.  It's very useful when dealing with people who insist of proliferating bullshit. 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    edited September 9
    Real Clear Politics - Average of ALL major polls 

    National  9/9/24

    Harris 48.4 +1.2
    Trump 47.2

    National 9/9/20
    Biden +7.2 over Trump

    National 9/9/16
    Clinton +2.7 over Trump

    Pennsylvania 9/9/24

    Harris 47.6 tie
    Trump 47.6

    Biden +4.3 9/9/20
    Clinton +6.2 9/9/16

    Arizona 9/9/24

    Trump 48.4 +1.6
    Harris  46.8

    Biden +5.7 9/9/20
    Trump +1.7 9/9/16

    Nevada 9/9/24

    Harris 48 + .6
    Trump 47.4 

    Wisconsin 9/9/24

    Harris 48.7 +1.5
    Trump 47.2

    Biden +6.4 9/9/20
    Clinton +5.3 9/9/16

    Michigan 9/9/24

    Harris 48.3 +1.2
    Trump 47.1

    Biden +3.2 9/9/20
    Clinton +7.3 9/9/16

    N. Carolina 9/9/24

    Trump 47.9 + .1
    Harris 47.8

    Georgia 9/9/24

    Trump 48.3 + .3
    Harris  48.0

    Trump +1.3 9/9/20
    Trump +1.6 9/9/16

    RCP Betting Average
    Trump 51.5
    Harris 46.8

    Based on historical averages of polls. Democrats had 4-5 point leads 2 months out. The most important state Pennsylvania, Biden led by 4.3 points in 2020. Today tied. This is terrible news for Harris.

    Biden also led Trump by 7.2 points nationally on this date in 2020. Harris leads by 1.2 today. We know how close the race ended up being. This is also terrible news if you are a Harris supporter.


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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
  • teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
    Let us know when POOTWH’s disbanded voter integrity commission uncovers the vast amount of voter fraud, will ya?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,794
    edited September 10
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
    Reasonable people can have honest disagreements.  Democrats worry that minorities will be denied their right to vote and Republicans believe that Ds are encouraging illegals to vote illegally.  The only difference is that only one of those things has actually happened. 
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
    Reasonable people can have honest disagreements.  Democrats worry that minorities will be denied their right to vote and Republicans believe that Ds are encouraging illegals to vote illegally.  The only difference is that only one of those things has actually happened. 
    Why did the Biden/Harris administration sue the state of Texas when they used shipping containers and buoys in the middle of the Rio Grande to deter illegal border crossings? Why did they make them remove those barriers?
  • teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
    Reasonable people can have honest disagreements.  Democrats worry that minorities will be denied their right to vote and Republicans believe that Ds are encouraging illegals to vote illegally.  The only difference is that only one of those things has actually happened. 
    Why did the Biden/Harris administration sue the state of Texas when they used shipping containers and buoys in the middle of the Rio Grande to deter illegal border crossings? Why did they make them remove those barriers?
    If you don’t know, you need to get woke. Or do your own research.
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    Because we need those workers. 
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
    Reasonable people can have honest disagreements.  Democrats worry that minorities will be denied their right to vote and Republicans believe that Ds are encouraging illegals to vote illegally.  The only difference is that only one of those things has actually happened. 
    Why did the Biden/Harris administration sue the state of Texas when they used shipping containers and buoys in the middle of the Rio Grande to deter illegal border crossings? Why did they make them remove those barriers?
    If you don’t know, you need to get woke. Or do your own research.
    Bidenomics?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,794
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
    Reasonable people can have honest disagreements.  Democrats worry that minorities will be denied their right to vote and Republicans believe that Ds are encouraging illegals to vote illegally.  The only difference is that only one of those things has actually happened. 
    Why did the Biden/Harris administration sue the state of Texas when they used shipping containers and buoys in the middle of the Rio Grande to deter illegal border crossings? Why did they make them remove those barriers?
    I don't know.  Likely because state action violates the federal authority on the matter.  Either way,  it has nothing to do with people voting illegally.   Complete non-sequitur.
  • teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
    Reasonable people can have honest disagreements.  Democrats worry that minorities will be denied their right to vote and Republicans believe that Ds are encouraging illegals to vote illegally.  The only difference is that only one of those things has actually happened. 
    Why did the Biden/Harris administration sue the state of Texas when they used shipping containers and buoys in the middle of the Rio Grande to deter illegal border crossings? Why did they make them remove those barriers?
    If you don’t know, you need to get woke. Or do your own research.
    Bidenomics?
    I’ll give you a hint: international law, borders and jurisdiction between state versus federal government. But do go on.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Democrats sue to get candidates of ballots and win!
    Saving Democracy wherever they go


  • teskeinc said:
    Democrats sue to get candidates of ballots and win!
    Saving Democracy wherever they go


    3D is D’ing, again.

    DeSantis election police question people who signed abortion ballot petition

    DeSantis’s election police unit is probing alleged fraud in signature gathering for an abortion referendum. Critics say the move is designed to intimidate voters.

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s election police unit is investigating alleged fraud in signature gathering for the state’s upcoming abortionreferendum in a move that critics say is designed to intimidate voters.

    In the past week, two people reported that an agent from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement arrived at their homes and asked them about petitions they had signed months ago to add Amendment 4 to the November ballot.

    One voter, Isaac Menasche, posted on his Facebook page Wednesday that a detective questioned him about his signature and showed him a folder containing 10 pages of his personal information.

    “The experience left me shaken,” Menasche wrote, adding that he had signed the petition. “Troubling that so much resources were devoted to this.”

    Menasche confirmed the content of the Facebook post to The Washington Post but declined to comment further.

    The investigation comes as Democrats and election experts express concern that DeSantis is using the powers of the state to derail the referendum, which would nullify a six-week abortion ban the Republican governor signed into law last year. The state’s health-care agency recently launched a website that claims the amendment “threatens women’s safety.”

    “They want people to stay home and to not vote,” Democratic state Rep. Fentrice Driskell said at a virtual news conference Monday. “They want people to read these articles and hear it on social media that the police showed up at somebody’s door and intimidated them and made them feel bad about signing an Amendment 4 petition.”

    DeSantis defended the actions of his election police unit, saying Monday that the state received “a lot of complaints” about a petition-gathering group, which he did not name. He said the group had submitted “dozens of petitions” on behalf of dead people. A Florida Department of State spokesperson declined to answer a request for more details, pointing only to DeSantis’s remarks.

    “They’re doing what they’re supposed to do. They’re following the law, and they’re ensuring that anyone that broke the law is going to be held accountable,” DeSantis said. “Our tolerance in the state of Florida for any type of election-related fraud is zero.”

    Although confirmed cases of voter fraud in Florida and throughout the country are rare, DeSantis urged the legislature to create the Office of Election Crimes and Security in 2022. The unit has fielded thousands of complaints since then but has reported only a few dozen arrests.

    Many of the arrests involve formerly incarcerated people accused of breaking the law by casting a ballot. Florida restored voting rights for most felons through a constitutional referendum in 2018, except for those who had been charged with murder or felony sexual offenses. Several of those charged said they were unaware certain felons could not vote and that they applied for voter registration cards, which the state granted.

    A number of their cases were initially dismissed by judges on grounds that the statewide prosecutor did not have jurisdiction over the cases. Lawmakers in the Republican-controlled legislature later changed state law to ensure that the prosecutor did have the right to pursue those cases.

    Proponents of the abortion rights amendment were required to collect 891,523 signatures verified by the state Division of Elections by Feb. 1 to place the amendment on the ballot.

    Floridians Protecting Freedom, the umbrella group that helped coordinate the signature collection effort across the state, said it gathered more than 1 million petition signatures for the amendment a month before the deadline. The state verified 910,946 of those signatures in January.

    Elections investigators began reviewing petitions last year for proposed ballot issues including the abortion rights proposal as well as other measures, such as an upcoming vote on recreational marijuana.

    In February and March, the agency announced charges against three people accused of submitting 50 fraudulent petitions for the abortion amendment. A separate investigation that started before the Amendment 4 drive began alleges that two people used the names of dead people on “multiple constitutional amendment initiatives.”

    The DeSantis administration has challenged the abortion referendum in court with mixed results. Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody succeeded in having a financial impact statement placed on the ballot. The state Supreme Court approved the financial language last month.

    But the same court, where DeSantis appointees make up the majority, also surprised the governor’s administration when it allowed the abortion amendment to go on the ballot.

    Floridians Protecting Freedom hired PCI Consultants to do most of the petition-gathering. PCI President Angelo Paparella said about 1,000 paid canvassers, along with hundreds of volunteers, collected more than 1.3 million signatures. He said about 1 million were valid registered voters and that a “very small number” were turned over to elections supervisors on suspicion of being fraudulent.

    Paparella’s California-based company has been collecting signatures for Florida ballot initiatives since 1998.

    “If we suspected fraud, we proactively turned those over to the county,” he said. “It’s such a small number, and we catch a lot of it. The counties check if the signatures match. Anybody committing fraud, it’s just a really stupid crime. It’s very time consuming, and they’re not making that much money. They may as well just do it the right way.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/09/desantis-election-abortion-referendum-fdle/

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,185
    edited September 10
    teskeinc said:
    Democrats sue to get candidates of ballots and win!
    Saving Democracy wherever they go



    and the reports of her campaign or the green party itself filed with paperwork to make her candidacy a state referendum are false?

    no. accurate....
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    Stein is a grifter. 
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    Stein is a grifter. 
    And much like Biden and Trump, too old to be running for President.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,185
    part of me feels like if a candidate isnt on all ballots, they should be excluded completely.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Watching closely tonight with George Clooney. Will she “Still love Kamala” later or need to pull another “switch-a-roo”?


  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,577
    What a way to spend one's time. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,191
    I don’t get why you think the Clooney thing is a winner. 
  • teskeinc said:
    Watching closely tonight with George Clooney. Will she “Still love Kamala” later or need to pull another “switch-a-roo”?


    George Clooney really concerns me. From Letter From An American:

    Today, ten retired senior military officials endorsed Harris, saying she “is the best—and only—presidential candidate in this race who is fit to serve as our commander-in-chief…. Frankly stated, Donald Trump is a danger to our national security and our democracy. His own former National Security Advisors, Defense Secretaries, and Chiefs of Staff have said so.”
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,170
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
    Voter ID hasn’t shown to be an effective deterrent against voter fraud. It also costs money in a lot of states to get ID, and also to get supporting documents, like a birth certificate. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    teskeinc said:
    The self-righteous complain of the low-information or uneducated voters opposing their views. 

    What about the generational minority voters? The black and Latino vote who have only voted Democrat because that’s how it’s always been. Like Joe Biden said last election cycle, “if you are having a problem
    figuring out to vote for me or Trump, you ain’t black.”
    Are they low info voters as well? Uneducated?

    Democrats assume their vote. Promise them the world and then never deliver. More and more every year their numbers are swinging toward the right. They know the Democrats take them for granted. 
    Requiring ID and denying the ID as valid is a historic way that the Jim Crow Laws reduced participation for minorities.  Knowing the origin of the laws and why D's are against it is important.  It's never been about illegals voting, it's been about American citizens being denied their rights.  
    So they can be denied their right to drive a car? Purchase a gun? (Even need a background check for that too) Pick up your mail at a Post Office? Yep you need an ID. Travel domestic or internationally, I think you need ID and/or Passport. Maybe you want to purchase a home? Are the banks giving loans without any kind of ID? 

    This isn’t the Jim Crow era. Most every state has early voting where you can go anytime a couple weeks before Election Day with no lines ever. You can request an absentee or you are automatically mailed a ballot. It’s never been easier to vote. But if there happens to be a line on Election Day, somehow a Democrat is crying foul.

    Seems very suspect that Democrats fight to not require ID to vote when almost everything you do as an adult requires some sort of ID. 
    Reasonable people can have honest disagreements.  Democrats worry that minorities will be denied their right to vote and Republicans believe that Ds are encouraging illegals to vote illegally.  The only difference is that only one of those things has actually happened. 
    Why did the Biden/Harris administration sue the state of Texas when they used shipping containers and buoys in the middle of the Rio Grande to deter illegal border crossings? Why did they make them remove those barriers?
    I don't know.  Likely because state action violates the federal authority on the matter.  Either way,  it has nothing to do with people voting illegally.   Complete non-sequitur.
    no shit...you think TX would be red if illegals voted? Ridiculously ignorant
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