Anyone else not have that FOMO feeling anymore while this band is on the DM tour?

pjl44 said:

pjhawks said:

what a whiny fan base this has become. 

I think as long as the critiques are respectful it's valuable to hear things like "I'm buying fewer tickets because of X" or "I would buy more tickets if X" from your fan base.

I think pricing issues are fair game.  But when I hear whining about the setlists  and show lengths that is where it's get me to say the fan base is whiny.   The idea they should play 'in the moonlight' or something like that for the  20 people in an 18,000 arena who want to hear it is silly.  I love this band and their music but let's be honest, the rarities are rare for a reason.

Something has changed.  For me, it's the pre-programmed portions of the set, with songs you know will be played in a sequence, accompanied by the same pre-programmed video.  It's also knowing the show will end with the same handful of songs every time.  The spontaneity and feeling anything could happen tonight are what I miss.  So, I don't have as much fear of missing out on what will be a show mostly similar to a show I already saw on this tour.

I am going the other way... Every concert I miss is one less opportunity I'll have to see them perform live and their days of date heavy tours across the country are clearly gone (I don't blame them at all for this). The thought of "I'll catch them next time" is not as reasonable of a stance to take at this stage of their careers as it was 10-15 years ago. I am kicking myself for not seeing them this tour when they were reasonably close by (LA and Vegas) but the cost of tickets and travel made it impossible. The setlist, etc. isn't a big deal to me. They played a couple of my least favorite songs last time I saw them live and I still loved every second of the show.

BigRedd said:

pjhawks said:

pjl44 said:

pjhawks said:

what a whiny fan base this has become. 

I think as long as the critiques are respectful it's valuable to hear things like "I'm buying fewer tickets because of X" or "I would buy more tickets if X" from your fan base.

I think pricing issues are fair game.  But when I hear whining about the setlists  and show lengths that is where it's get me to say the fan base is whiny.   The idea they should play 'in the moonlight' or something like that for the  20 people in an 18,000 arena who want to hear it is silly.  I love this band and their music but let's be honest, the rarities are rare for a reason.

You are completely missing the point of this thread and changing it something else. 

It is not about checking off some obscure songs. It's the fact something has changed for me with this band and I was curious if anyone else was experiencing it as well. Seems like some others agree. You don't it seems and that's great. To call us a whiny bunch is not called for at all. 

Also what is the reason songs like Fatal, Otherside, Hold On, Undone. Hard to Imagine, Parting Ways, Chloe/Crown, All or None, All those Yesterdays, Around the Bed, Force of Nature, Get Right, Of the Earth, No Way are rare? I am sure you will pick apart some of those as they are not for everyone but a lot of those are amazing songs that elevate sets. 

those songs are rare because they have hundred and some songs and a new album to promote.  it's not 1998 where the catalog is limited.  the whiny over playing the hits is nauseating. nothing turns me off when a fan complains about the hits. it's entitled and snobby and no amount of bitching is going to stop the band from playing the hits.   Now do some setlists seem a bit more meh now than when they were doing 3.5 hour shows, sure but that doesn't affect the mood in the room at the moment.   What you are missing out if you don't go to shows is the 'moment'.  i don't worry about the setlists too much.  maybe i'm different but being in the same room with this band, playing music at such a high level is the most exciting events ill see this year (and i saw the stones, billy joel at msg and will see Bruce before PJ in the fall). And you will surely wish you held on to those moments when this band is done playing at such a high level or even done playing at all.  Cherish every damn moment you can with this band because what they do is rare and fantastic. so yea people complaining about set lists, not wanting to go to shows because they aren't playing Undone, seems a bit whiny to me.   just my $0.02.

hrd2imgn said:

It is all ticketmaster's fault, the Green Disease has taken over, and every tour seems to be high anxiety moment after high anxiety moment.  

I gave up on merch after Wrigley let's play two shows....like being free of  chains.

They are old,most of us are old, way less energy than the 90's.  Internet has made 24 hour access too easy......less shows....less tickets.....prices making it hard for anyone middle class or below to afford one show much less two when you add parking, food, merch (if you do.it)



And I am sick of cell phones all lit up all the time recriding vs down and enjoying.  Let someone else record it it'll be on YouTube in 15 minutes, you won't miss anything but the show as you are too busy looking at a screen of.your phone

Thank you

hrd2imgn said:

I gave up on merch after Wrigley let's play two shows....like being free of  chains.

Immediately thought of this poster.

pjhawks said:

pjl44 said:

pjhawks said:

what a whiny fan base this has become. 

I think as long as the critiques are respectful it's valuable to hear things like "I'm buying fewer tickets because of X" or "I would buy more tickets if X" from your fan base.

I think pricing issues are fair game.  But when I hear whining about the setlists  and show lengths that is where it's get me to say the fan base is whiny.   The idea they should play 'in the moonlight' or something like that for the  20 people in an 18,000 arena who want to hear it is silly.  I love this band and their music but let's be honest, the rarities are rare for a reason.

No one is whining. It is a respectful discussion about individual feelings about the current state of the band and how it is affecting our personal fandom. The better question is why a segment of posters here are so fragile that they take others opinions of the band so personally. 

fall by the wayside said:

pjhawks said:

pjl44 said:

pjhawks said:

what a whiny fan base this has become. 

I think as long as the critiques are respectful it's valuable to hear things like "I'm buying fewer tickets because of X" or "I would buy more tickets if X" from your fan base.

I think pricing issues are fair game.  But when I hear whining about the setlists  and show lengths that is where it's get me to say the fan base is whiny.   The idea they should play 'in the moonlight' or something like that for the  20 people in an 18,000 arena who want to hear it is silly.  I love this band and their music but let's be honest, the rarities are rare for a reason.

No one is whining. It is a respectful discussion about individual feelings about the current state of the band and how it is affecting our personal fandom. The better question is why a segment of posters here are so fragile that they take others opinions of the band so personally. 

This!  I’m definitely not whining about any of it. I still love the band, LOVE the new album and can’t wait to go to my one show in Indy. Nothing wrong with expressing opinions about what has changed. By the way as far as “the hits” go…I mentioned earlier because of shows being shortened to 25 songs plus a new album there just isn’t much room for a lot of great songs. I’ve never cared if they play fucking Just a Girl or Dirty Frank or the stupid Whale Song. I’m talking about Grievance, WWS, Leash, Go, Faithfull, Insignificance, etc.  

As far as the merch goes somebody said IGNORE IT.  Yeah thanks I do ignore it. except in St Paul my son really wanted the hockey mask shirt. Lines were hours long.  And sometimes I’d like to get the poster from a show I attend and don’t wanna wait in those lines. It’s dumb. But whatever it is what it is. 

My dads favorite band was Led Zeppelin. To the point where their picture hung in my living room my entire life.

When my dad was 24, he saw them for the last time, 1975, the year I was born.

I will NEVER take them for granted. We are very lucky.

I got to take dad to Phily in 2013 before he passed. Very lucky....im not crying your crying.

fall by the wayside said:

pjhawks said:

pjl44 said:

pjhawks said:

what a whiny fan base this has become. 

I think as long as the critiques are respectful it's valuable to hear things like "I'm buying fewer tickets because of X" or "I would buy more tickets if X" from your fan base.

I think pricing issues are fair game.  But when I hear whining about the setlists  and show lengths that is where it's get me to say the fan base is whiny.   The idea they should play 'in the moonlight' or something like that for the  20 people in an 18,000 arena who want to hear it is silly.  I love this band and their music but let's be honest, the rarities are rare for a reason.

No one is whining. It is a respectful discussion about individual feelings about the current state of the band and how it is affecting our personal fandom. The better question is why a segment of posters here are so fragile that they take others opinions of the band so personally. 

100% Agree!  I love coming to this forum to see the different opinions everyone has.  As long as the person is being respectful it is fair game.  Someone loves Sirens, that's fantastic!  Someone else hates that song and uses it as a bathroom break during a show, also great!  The fun is seeing how everyone has different opinions and how you personally might agree or disagree with them.  I don't understand the need to tell others they are being whiny or even to shut up when just expressing an opinion.  It's like having a discussion on the best ice cream flavor.  One person says vanilla.  Another says chocolate.  Another says mint chocolate chip.  Then Someone says shut up you should just be grateful you get ice cream at all.  What's the fun in that?