Anyone else not have that FOMO feeling anymore while this band is on the DM tour?

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  • BC62528
    BC62528 Posts: 227
    Biggest Factor - The Business Side of the Band.  Ticket Prices and the Ticket Process have taken a bit of the wind out of my "obsession sails" - the lack luster posters and money grab merchandizing/insane lines hasn't helped either.  However, I know once I catch the NYC and Boston shows I will be wanting more - it happens every tour - it's a drug and I'm addicted.  I'm still here for the music and live performances - which I think is still stellar - just give me a few more songs on each setlist boys...
  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,899
    All things considered, I'm betting once they're done touring the hell out of Dark Matter we'll see them fall back into the less-predictable setlists like they had in 2022/2023 with a few DM songs sticking around.
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    No FOMO whatsoever for me. It's completely unnecessary, IMO, to see multiple shows at this point. Just to chase a song or two? I've seen every song by them that I want to (outside of DM stuff).  I always thought going to multiple shows to just chase 1-2 songs was pretty silly anyhow.  

    To me, it's now a night out with my wife or friends listening to the band we love. Have some pre-show drinks. Catch up with some friends I haven't seen in awhile. Fenway is not my ideal place to see them, but happy to have a chance to see them at least once. Looking forward to that Sunday show and hoping for good weather. Have tickets for Tuesday but still undecided on that. 
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    The_Giant_Midget said:
    It’ll come down to MSG and the baseball stadium
    shows for me. If they are north of 25 songs and they really change it up then we’ll know they’re still capable of epic nights. If they don’t, then the best case scenario going forward for us is like Vegas 1 or those ‘23 sets.
    I'd be surprised if they play longer at MSG or the ballparks. If anything, the fact that MSG is back to back nights is a reason not to play more songs. 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    I spent the entire month of May attending ten shows in six cities in two countries (literally by boat, plane and car). It was as exciting and satisfying and life-affirming a run of shows as I've ever experienced. (And Deep Sea Diver was a totaIly unexpected treat that made it even better.) I am sorry it's over, and I'm really glad I did it. I don't have fear of missing out on the shows to come in Europe and in the east, but I would have definitely missed out if I had not gone to the shows I did.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,953
    BF25394 said:
    I spent the entire month of May attending ten shows in six cities in two countries (literally by boat, plane and car). It was as exciting and satisfying and life-affirming a run of shows as I've ever experienced. (And Deep Sea Diver was a totaIly unexpected treat that made it even better.) I am sorry it's over, and I'm really glad I did it. I don't have fear of missing out on the shows to come in Europe and in the east, but I would have definitely missed out if I had not gone to the shows I did.
    What would you have missed out on seeing if you hadn't seen 10 shows? Say 8 or 9? If you saw that many why don't you think you'll miss out on anything this fall? 
  • URthekey
    URthekey Posts: 1,912
    ^This is why I don’t get it when people complain about them playing too much of the new stuff, even if/when they’re predictably repeated, if you don't see it LIVE when they're touring FOR the album, you might not ever.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    edited July 2024
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    BF25394 said:
    I spent the entire month of May attending ten shows in six cities in two countries (literally by boat, plane and car). It was as exciting and satisfying and life-affirming a run of shows as I've ever experienced. (And Deep Sea Diver was a totaIly unexpected treat that made it even better.) I am sorry it's over, and I'm really glad I did it. I don't have fear of missing out on the shows to come in Europe and in the east, but I would have definitely missed out if I had not gone to the shows I did.
    What would you have missed out on seeing if you hadn't seen 10 shows? Say 8 or 9? If you saw that many why don't you think you'll miss out on anything this fall? 
    I saw 98 different songs across ten shows, including every song from Dark Matter. My primary motivation for blanketing the shows was to see all of Dark Matter, and that was accomplished. But more to the point, I live in Los Angeles, and traveling to cities in the west in May was a much better proposition from a cost and inconvenience standpoint than it would be traveling to shows in the east, all of which would require flights and overnight stays, even in the places like New York and Boston where I wouldn't need to pay for lodging. In the west, the only place I had to pay for lodging was Seattle, and I was able to do Portland and Sacramento (and, obviously, L.A., as less-than-24-hour trips). Anything that I miss out on in the fall would exact a much greater price to not miss out on it, and it would be diminishing returns after seeing the spring shows. Having said that, I have no doubt that, if circumstances ended up where I got to go a show or shows in the fall, it would be awesome and I would love it.

    And, having said all that, I expect to see them twice in the fall at Ohana.
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  • Hankj25
    Hankj25 Posts: 388
    Saw 2 shows this tour, and turned down a 3rd that would have required me to take a red eye to get to Noblesville, even though the ticket was free.

    The setlists are what they are.  They invested in the screen, the people, the design, and this is apparently the result.  The band sounded great both shows, Ed sounded really damn good too.  I had a blast.  But I don’t need to drag myself through hell to get to a third version of essentially the same show.  

    That being said, if they were to revert back to 2023 setlists next year, I’d pile more on my plate for that variety.  
    Seattle 8-8-18
    Chicago 8-18-18
    Chicago 8-20-18
    St. Louis 4-4-20
    Denver 4-9-20
    Denver 9-22-22
    Noblesville 9-10-23
    Vancouver 5-6-24
    Seattle 5-30-24
    Nashville 5-6-25


    EV
    Chicago 2-9-22
    Tempe 2-26-23
  • LC
    LC North Andover, MA Posts: 307
    I honestly think the first 5 songs of the show are key to the vibe and excitement of the entire setlist  I'd love to see them return to simply varying the start of the show each night...slow/fast, new/old etc.  In 2000, that Katowice show was an awesome surprise because they threw a quiet and slow start in out of nowhere.  For the last 6-8 years, they start quiet almost every show.
    8-29-00 Mansfield, 6-29-03 Montreal, 7-2-03 Mansfield, 7-3-03 Mansfield, 7-11-03, Mansfield, 9-28-04 Boston, 9-29-04 Boston, 10-8-04 Kissimmee, 9-15-05 Montreal, 9-16-05 Ottawa, 5-12-06 Albany, 5-13-06 Hartford, 5-24-06 Boston, 5-25-06 Boston, 6-28-08, Mansfield, 6-30-08 Mansfield, 5-15-10 Hartford, 5-17-10 Boston, 7-19-13 Chicago, 10-15-13 Worcester, 5-2-16 New York City, 8-5-16 Boston, 8-7-16 Boston
    EV- 2008, 2011 Boston
  • bootleg
    bootleg Posts: 1,207
    I wonder if Indianapolis has a chance to be the one since it’s technically a postponed 2023 show or do they just continue on with the same format?  Also wonder if the illnesses affected any experimentation in Europe?  Thinking if they had the time they might have worked out a few more rare ones but maybe had to fall back to songs they’ve played more often. 
  • pjcam
    pjcam Posts: 68
    I was really satisfied with both nights in Vancouver. Got every song off Dark Matter but one and they mixed some rarities in the sets. 

    Can’t wait for Missoula and hopefully they play Waiting For Stevie. 
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,379
    Lots of good points all around here. I am only doing the makeup Indy show in August. I’ve had no FOMO. For me I think it’s been many things over the past few years. They do sound amazing (saw both St. Paul shows last tour and 30+ since 92). And I’m so thankful and happy they’re still going strong, we are lucky our favorite band is still doing it and putting out unbelievable music like Dark Matter. BUT…the negatives have kinda made my excitement just a little less. 

    Ticket prices
    The whole merch thing
    Shorter shows
    The set lists (still great but chances of seeing our favorites, not even deep cuts, just great songs is so much less
    Cancellations (I realize there isn’t anything you can do about illness but it’s still a thing)

    I still can’t wait for Indy but my expectations are not even close to the same as they were just a short time ago. 

    Still the best band in the world!
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    Abe Froman said:
    Lots of good points all around here. I am only doing the makeup Indy show in August. I’ve had no FOMO. For me I think it’s been many things over the past few years. They do sound amazing (saw both St. Paul shows last tour and 30+ since 92). And I’m so thankful and happy they’re still going strong, we are lucky our favorite band is still doing it and putting out unbelievable music like Dark Matter. BUT…the negatives have kinda made my excitement just a little less. 

    Ticket prices
    The whole merch thing
    Shorter shows
    The set lists (still great but chances of seeing our favorites, not even deep cuts, just great songs is so much less
    Cancellations (I realize there isn’t anything you can do about illness but it’s still a thing)

    I still can’t wait for Indy but my expectations are not even close to the same as they were just a short time ago. 

    Still the best band in the world!
    What's "[t]he whole merch thing"?
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,379
    BF25394 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Lots of good points all around here. I am only doing the makeup Indy show in August. I’ve had no FOMO. For me I think it’s been many things over the past few years. They do sound amazing (saw both St. Paul shows last tour and 30+ since 92). And I’m so thankful and happy they’re still going strong, we are lucky our favorite band is still doing it and putting out unbelievable music like Dark Matter. BUT…the negatives have kinda made my excitement just a little less. 

    Ticket prices
    The whole merch thing
    Shorter shows
    The set lists (still great but chances of seeing our favorites, not even deep cuts, just great songs is so much less
    Cancellations (I realize there isn’t anything you can do about illness but it’s still a thing)

    I still can’t wait for Indy but my expectations are not even close to the same as they were just a short time ago. 

    Still the best band in the world!
    What's "[t]he whole merch thing"?
    It feels like it’s become a “brand” not in a good way ya know?  I don’t really have a great way to describe what I mean. Just feels like it’s become more about money and less about the quality of product?  I don’t know. It’s just turned me off the past few years. I know people love it but I don’t anymore. Probably just a me thing 🤷🏼‍♂️
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,876
    Abe Froman said:
    BF25394 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Lots of good points all around here. I am only doing the makeup Indy show in August. I’ve had no FOMO. For me I think it’s been many things over the past few years. They do sound amazing (saw both St. Paul shows last tour and 30+ since 92). And I’m so thankful and happy they’re still going strong, we are lucky our favorite band is still doing it and putting out unbelievable music like Dark Matter. BUT…the negatives have kinda made my excitement just a little less. 

    Ticket prices
    The whole merch thing
    Shorter shows
    The set lists (still great but chances of seeing our favorites, not even deep cuts, just great songs is so much less
    Cancellations (I realize there isn’t anything you can do about illness but it’s still a thing)

    I still can’t wait for Indy but my expectations are not even close to the same as they were just a short time ago. 

    Still the best band in the world!
    What's "[t]he whole merch thing"?
    It feels like it’s become a “brand” not in a good way ya know?  I don’t really have a great way to describe what I mean. Just feels like it’s become more about money and less about the quality of product?  I don’t know. It’s just turned me off the past few years. I know people love it but I don’t anymore. Probably just a me thing 🤷🏼‍♂️
    I think you have a valid point.  
    Merch has gone too far. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Cornerstone2211
    Cornerstone2211 Posts: 86
    I’d say I actually have worse than ever. My one shoe got cancelled and they’re not getting any younger. Every setlist/clip I see gets me excited but is tinged with sadness.
  • D-Day
    D-Day Posts: 708
    edited July 2024
    lastexitlondon said:
    Abe Froman said:
    BF25394 said:
    Abe Froman said:
    Lots of good points all around here. I am only doing the makeup Indy show in August. I’ve had no FOMO. For me I think it’s been many things over the past few years. They do sound amazing (saw both St. Paul shows last tour and 30+ since 92). And I’m so thankful and happy they’re still going strong, we are lucky our favorite band is still doing it and putting out unbelievable music like Dark Matter. BUT…the negatives have kinda made my excitement just a little less. 

    Ticket prices
    The whole merch thing
    Shorter shows
    The set lists (still great but chances of seeing our favorites, not even deep cuts, just great songs is so much less
    Cancellations (I realize there isn’t anything you can do about illness but it’s still a thing)

    I still can’t wait for Indy but my expectations are not even close to the same as they were just a short time ago. 

    Still the best band in the world!
    What's "[t]he whole merch thing"?
    It feels like it’s become a “brand” not in a good way ya know?  I don’t really have a great way to describe what I mean. Just feels like it’s become more about money and less about the quality of product?  I don’t know. It’s just turned me off the past few years. I know people love it but I don’t anymore. Probably just a me thing 🤷🏼‍♂️
    I think you have a valid point.  
    Merch has gone too far. 



    That „brand“ thing is exactly what I‘ve thought with my first views on board here.
    Merch more interesting than a lot on board.
    Strange stuff and processes around merch stalls.
    Company and customers involved.
    From what I’ve seen: PJ even a worldwide brand in music world / music biz. ?!?

    €€$$££ Fees for nothing on top of the ticket prices - I paid £160 total: 135,-PJ-ENTRY plus £ 22,xx (TM fees for nothing) plus £2,xx handling fees.
    that £22,xx for nothing is … bad business behavior for sure.

    Then different views on the PJ-US-Showbiz scene - arenas / prices / fans paying $$$ for… very few fans are alarmed - a lot of LEMMINGs (and/or a basically rich - wealthy US-fan base there) 
    even Hollywoodlandish and NYbusiness like.
    a PJ gig is a event there.

    Post edited by D-Day on
  • D-Day
    D-Day Posts: 708
    👆🏿view from far away on the scenery ;)
  • D-Day
    D-Day Posts: 708
    edited July 2024
    💡? How many SUVs are on the parking lots around us arena shows?

    edit: and how many scrap cars?

    XX%
    Post edited by D-Day on

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