European Tour Sales = Desaster

Tons of unsold seat everywhere in Europe du Princig Policy.
Event in Berlin (Have a look at eventeam.de, nothing is sold event at the cheapest rates)
Poor atmosphere....

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  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,293
    yeah barcelona and berlin not being sold out is very weird. barcelona has so many unsold tickets
  • Gregeje76
    Gregeje76 Germany Posts: 17
    Currently Berlin 1 & 2 upper sector completely unsold, I assume they will decrease the prices soon as I am pretty sure they cannot sell them for 175€. But hope the shows will be sold out at the end as it would be strange to see PJ at Waldbühne with 1/3 empty seats
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Waiting until the middle of February to sell Europe was not a great idea it would seem. I am not sure how many more tickets would have sold if they announced this in early December but the shorter notice coupled with the high prices has left most shows with thousands of seats left. 

    I remember back in December when people were mocking Europeans when they were complaining about needing to know the dates to plan for the following year. Looks like a lot of them planned without PJ.  
  • Hello Friends.  Pearl Jam is the soundtrack to my life.  Born and raised in So Cal.  Today was the ticket sale for the upcoming 2024 tour.  Anything Ticketmaster has to do with turns into a pile of shit.  I know it's not PJ.  I know PJ wants what's best for their fans, however, the bots and the scalpers are a difficult cancer to beat.  Just a blue collar guy who seeks PJ live as rehab from the grind of life.  And todays events with the ticket sale has been a travesty.  A general fuck you to Ticketmaster and all ticket resale businesses. All the REAL PJ FANS will be in the upper decks at the LA forum.  Nothing but corporate greed will be in the decent seats.  GREEN DISEASE.  Take care.
  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    PJNB said:
    Waiting until the middle of February to sell Europe was not a great idea it would seem. I am not sure how many more tickets would have sold if they announced this in early December but the shorter notice coupled with the high prices has left most shows with thousands of seats left. 

    I remember back in December when people were mocking Europeans when they were complaining about needing to know the dates to plan for the following year. Looks like a lot of them planned without PJ.  
    Yep, absolutely true. I‘m one of those committing to other plans because I couldn’t/ didn’t want to wait any longer. I don’t regret my choice 
  • Ryan
    Ryan Posts: 1,223
    Berlin and Barcelona also traditionally get one show per tour, not two (exception being Berlin 2012 when they played the arena).  That venue in Berlin is bigger than an arena.  May have been better off doing single shows in those cities.  As a North American I also would have gone to EU if we didn’t have so many options for shows that on this side of the pond this year.  I’m guessing fewer North Americans are going over there in peak travel months when we have many less experienced options for PJ shows this year.  
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Harder to sell merch for three days when you only play one show. 
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Ryan said:
    Berlin and Barcelona also traditionally get one show per tour, not two (exception being Berlin 2012 when they played the arena).  That venue in Berlin is bigger than an arena.  May have been better off doing single shows in those cities.  As a North American I also would have gone to EU if we didn’t have so many options for shows that on this side of the pond this year.  I’m guessing fewer North Americans are going over there in peak travel months when we have many less experienced options for PJ shows this year.  
    Thats true as well. I thought they would have seen the writing on the wall with how well St Paul sold last year but I guess not. 
  • dani11
    dani11 uk Posts: 43
    PJNB said:
    Waiting until the middle of February to sell Europe was not a great idea it would seem. I am not sure how many more tickets would have sold if they announced this in early December but the shorter notice coupled with the high prices has left most shows with thousands of seats left. 

    I remember back in December when people were mocking Europeans when they were complaining about needing to know the dates to plan for the following year. Looks like a lot of them planned without PJ.  
    Exactly this. On top of that, hotels and flights generally being more expensive in Feb vs Dec
  • mikesbri
    mikesbri Toronto Posts: 1,011
    the UEFA Euro is also going on in Germany, maybe taking away from the PJ plus high ticket costs.

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  • LizJ
    LizJ Posts: 363
    JPPJ84 said:
    PJNB said:
    Waiting until the middle of February to sell Europe was not a great idea it would seem. I am not sure how many more tickets would have sold if they announced this in early December but the shorter notice coupled with the high prices has left most shows with thousands of seats left. 

    I remember back in December when people were mocking Europeans when they were complaining about needing to know the dates to plan for the following year. Looks like a lot of them planned without PJ.  
    Yep, absolutely true. I‘m one of those committing to other plans because I couldn’t/ didn’t want to wait any longer. I don’t regret my choice 
    With everything that has been going on surrounding this tour, I am sure that you have made the right decision for yourself. 
    But might still be tough, when the tour will have finally started, realizing that you are not there with us.  :|
  • PJNB said:
    Waiting until the middle of February to sell Europe was not a great idea it would seem. I am not sure how many more tickets would have sold if they announced this in early December but the shorter notice coupled with the high prices has left most shows with thousands of seats left. 

    I remember back in December when people were mocking Europeans when they were complaining about needing to know the dates to plan for the following year. Looks like a lot of them planned without PJ.  
    Oh definitely. With tighter budgets pre-planning is necessary and a lot of Europeans prefer to buy tickets further in advance. The Euro Cup in football is another reason for unlucky timing. 
    Now I'm just worried that they might cancel one of the gigs in Barcelona and Berlin, if demand keeps the way it is. Would be heartbreaking, as well. 
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  • Gregeje76
    Gregeje76 Germany Posts: 17
    now 1st significant price drop for Berlin at Eventim. Upper section outer right and left for 127€ instead 175€ before……
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    edited February 2024
    Wow. Really. You can see how much they miscalculated. After more than twelve hours, 99 percent of the tickets in the upper tier were still available. And we're talking about around a third of the venue. It's ridiculous that they only lowered the outermost areas to 127 euros. The entire upper tier is in dire need of that. 
  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    Zen23 said:
    Wow. Really. You can see how much they miscalculated. After more than twelve hours, 99 percent of the tickets in the upper tier were still available. And we're talking about around a third of the venue. It's ridiculous that they only lowered the outermost areas to 127 euros. The entire upper tier is in dire need of that. 
    I think eventually this will happen because anyone still interested will wait now 
  • Gregeje76
    Gregeje76 Germany Posts: 17
    JPPJ84 said:
    Zen23 said:
    Wow. Really. You can see how much they miscalculated. After more than twelve hours, 99 percent of the tickets in the upper tier were still available. And we're talking about around a third of the venue. It's ridiculous that they only lowered the outermost areas to 127 euros. The entire upper tier is in dire need of that. 
    I think eventually this will happen because anyone still interested will wait now 
    I think you are right. They will never sell these seats for 175€. We could already see the first rows on the left are sold now for 127€
  • I’m so happy that this has backfired on them. 

    Things that are ok in the US, doesn’t mean it’s ok to do here. 

    Manchester is 50% sold. London is easily less than 50% sold. You reap what you sow at the end of the day.

    Those saying it’s not the band and that they are entirely blameless are wrong. They’ll know what’s going on. At least Springsteen had the bottle to come out and own up to the Dynamic pricing and what he was doing. 

    Can see a lot of these shows being reduced or even on offer in a few weeks time.
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  • Kearn5y
    Kearn5y Ireland Posts: 3,035
    Could it also be the case thats its the same countries over and over again and in this case playing 2 nights instead of 1. Ireland hasnt had a show since 2010 and on this tour is the second largest show with a capacity of 40k with 10% of those being platinum tickets. If we believe Ticketmaster, only the platinum tickets are available for the GC and no way there are 4000 platinum tickets available for that area. I know GA was much cheaper than other dates which could be a reason that it seems to have sold well but just a thought.
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  • LizJ
    LizJ Posts: 363
    German music magazine (Musikexpress/german Rolling Stone) reporting on the bad sales for Berlin today, asking “Did Pearl Jam gamble away?” (I hope I translated the headline correctly), mentioning the high prices for Berlin in general and the dynamic pricing by Ticketmaster.
    As I said, it’s in German, but I think it’s interesting that it’s being recognized by the press in Germany. 
    And it also shows again, that these prices are not standard prices for concerts in Europe. Mentioning these prices being the level of Adele or Phil Collins (did not know/expect that for Phil Collins btw.), but not for “former grunge or Indie-heroes”. 




  • Soybeans
    Soybeans Posts: 258
    edited February 2024
    willwall said:
    I’m so happy that this has backfired on them. 

    Things that are ok in the US, doesn’t mean it’s ok to do here. 

    Manchester is 50% sold. London is easily less than 50% sold. You reap what you sow at the end of the day.

    Those saying it’s not the band and that they are entirely blameless are wrong. They’ll know what’s going on. At least Springsteen had the bottle to come out and own up to the Dynamic pricing and what he was doing. 

    Can see a lot of these shows being reduced or even on offer in a few weeks time.
    Is already happening. The prices for Barcelona are coming down. Barcelona uppers down $30, lowers have come down by $50.

    But it's too late for many. Scanning the sad comments on the socials, it's clear that our proud Spanish PJ brothers and sisters are done. Sadly,  I have to hope these arenas remain half empty at show time. 
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