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                      Was lucky enough to win a few shows. I have a pretty low 10C number, 106xxx and have been treated to many great seats over the years. For this tour it seems as if I lost my seniority for the shows I was picked for. I'm way back on the floor at Baltimore and Philly while I'm seeing people with way higher numbers post their seats and they are better than mine! Talking to people with similar #'s as me I would think I would be near them! Yes my 10C number is correct when I log in on here!! Happy to be in the building of course and can't wait but just wondering what may have happened and did it happen to anyone else! Emailed the 10c but no response. All the seats were P1.
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            If your number is still the same in your account, it sounds like the mistake is on someone else, not you. Wait for a response from 10c, but maybe just verify your last membership payment went through. Again, if your 106xxx number is still in your profile/account, it’s likely not your error.0
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 Thanks for responding MookieB. Yea it did. Here is a current screen shot..Beleive me I checked!! Hopefully I hear back. Ticketstoday has no clue about the seniority or how it works.mookieblalock said:If your number is still the same in your account, it sounds like the mistake is on someone else, not you. Wait for a response from 10c, but maybe just verify your last membership payment went through. Again, if your 106xxx number is still in your profile/account, it’s likely not your error. 
 Post edited by Fastrichie on04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/20250
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 Contact the Ten Club (politely) with the specifics of your seats and the details of the other members who you believe got better placement. They probably won't be able to re-allocate your seats, but they may give you other concessions. (This happened to me in 2009. The concessions essentially offset the price of my ticket for the show where they screwed up.)Fastrichie said:
 Thanks for responding MookieB. Yea it did. Here is a current screen shot..Beleive me I checked!!mookieblalock said:If your number is still the same in your account, it sounds like the mistake is on someone else, not you. Wait for a response from 10c, but maybe just verify your last membership payment went through. Again, if your 106xxx number is still in your profile/account, it’s likely not your error. I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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 Thanks for the info BF...I was definitely polite when contacting the 10C. I emailed tickets@tenclub.net. Hope that is correct.BF25394 said:
 Contact the Ten Club (politely) with the specifics of your seats and the details of the other members who you believe got better placement. They probably won't be able to re-allocate your seats, but they may give you other concessions. (This happened to me in 2009. The concessions essentially offset the price of my ticket for the show where they screwed up.)Fastrichie said:mookieblalock said:If your number is still the same in your account, it sounds like the mistake is on someone else, not you. Wait for a response from 10c, but maybe just verify your last membership payment went through. Again, if your 106xxx number is still in your profile/account, it’s likely not your error.04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/20250
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            I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?0
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            The seats appear to be messed up again.Randall's Island 9/29/96, Continental Arena 9/8/98, MSG 9/10/98, Jones Beach 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 8/25/00, Nassau Coliseum 4/30/03, MSG 7/8/03, 7/9/03, Continental Arena 6/1/06, 6/3/06, MSG 6/24/08, 6/25/08, Spectrum 10/30/09, 10/31/09, MSG 5/20/10, 5/21/10, PJ20 9/3/11, 9/4/11, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Global Citizen 9/26/15, Raleigh 4/20/16 Baltimore 3/28/20 Austin 9/18/23, 9/19/23, Forum 5/21/24, Baltimore 9/12/24, Fenway 9/17/24, Nashville 5/6/25, 5/8/250
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            I could be wrong here but if you had a low 10c number but got selected for p2 then you could still have worse seats than in the past. All the best in sorting this out.0
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 It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.aspoonfulweighsaton said:I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/20250
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            I don't think it really matters. I have in the mid 100s and have had "bad" seats and on a couple of occasions good seats and other times didn't win. People with higher numbers than me have had better seats throughout the years.
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 No, seats are assigned based on seniority, as they have been in prior years. Seniority is not relevant for obtaining tickets, or for the GA section. But sometimes they screw up when assign the seats.aspoonfulweighsaton said:I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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            ST66483 said:I could be wrong here but if you had a low 10c number but got selected for p2 then you could still have worse seats than in the past. All the best in sorting this out.
 I did not pick P2 and the seats are on the floor where P2 were uppers.ST66483 said:I could be wrong here but if you had a low 10c number but got selected for p2 then you could still have worse seats than in the past. All the best in sorting this out.Post edited by Fastrichie on04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/20250
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            Fastrichie said:
 It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.aspoonfulweighsaton said:I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
 ST66483 is right. Seniority doesn't determine P1 or P2. What did the confirm email say? The original one earlier in the week.
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            aspoonfulweighsaton said:I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?Getting picked is random. Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category. If there was a P1 and a P2 option, a low 10C number for P2 is still going to be worse than a high 10C P1.Had he got P1 seats, his number would have got him good seats in that category. But there was the random element of getting picked out of the hat to overcome first.There's also an unknown element, which is how the seating is prioritised by TM. Some people would say that being on the floor is always better than in stands. Others would disagree. We don't quite know how TM determines that. So what could be bad seats for one person (in their opinion) might be perceived by the system as being better seats.0
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 Definitely, I agree. But the seats I got are way off! That’s the only reason I’m asking.igotid88 said:I don't think it really matters. I have in the mid 100s and have had "bad" seats and on a couple of occasions good seats and other times didn't win. People with higher numbers than me have had better seats throughout the years.04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/20250
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 Pat…I got all P1s.patkelly12 said:Fastrichie said:
 It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.aspoonfulweighsaton said:I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
 ST66483 is right. Seniority doesn't determine P1 or P2. What did the confirm email say? The original one earlier in the week.04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/20250
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            Fastrichie said:
 Pat…I got all P1s.patkelly12 said:Fastrichie said:
 It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.aspoonfulweighsaton said:I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
 ST66483 is right. Seniority doesn't determine P1 or P2. What did the confirm email say? The original one earlier in the week.
 Then I agree something is off.
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 Mara, I got all P1s. But you bring up an interesting point on the floor. I only can tell you I know where I usually get seats and people in the 200000s are in section 2!marra2312 said:aspoonfulweighsaton said:I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?Getting picked is random. Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category. If there was a P1 and a P2 option, a low 10C number for P2 is still going to be worse than a high 10C P1.Had he got P1 seats, his number would have got him good seats in that category. But there was the random element of getting picked out of the hat to overcome first.There's also an unknown element, which is how the seating is prioritised by TM. Some people would say that being on the floor is always better than in stands. Others would disagree. We don't quite know how TM determines that. So what could be bad seats for one person (in their opinion) might be perceived by the system as being better seats.04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/20250
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 Yea I’m assuming. Appreciate your responses/questions.patkelly12 said:Fastrichie said:
 Pat…I got all P1s.patkelly12 said:Fastrichie said:
 It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.aspoonfulweighsaton said:I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
 ST66483 is right. Seniority doesn't determine P1 or P2. What did the confirm email say? The original one earlier in the week.
 Then I agree something is off.04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/20250
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            Fastrichie said:
 Mara, I got all P1s. But you bring up an interesting point on the floor. I only can tell you I know where I usually get seats and people in the 200000s are in section 2!marra2312 said:aspoonfulweighsaton said:I thought things were all random for a while now? My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly. Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?Getting picked is random. Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category. If there was a P1 and a P2 option, a low 10C number for P2 is still going to be worse than a high 10C P1.Had he got P1 seats, his number would have got him good seats in that category. But there was the random element of getting picked out of the hat to overcome first.There's also an unknown element, which is how the seating is prioritised by TM. Some people would say that being on the floor is always better than in stands. Others would disagree. We don't quite know how TM determines that. So what could be bad seats for one person (in their opinion) might be perceived by the system as being better seats.I was responding to the person who was talking about their friend with P2 seats and a low 10C number. Their situation is not the same as your situation. Their situation is more easily explained away.I'd expect your seats to be worse than they have been in previous years. Because of the introduction of the premium tickets, pretty much all 10C tickets have been worse than they used to be, no matter how low a number someone has.However, you should not be getting worse seats than other 10C members with higher numbers. If that is happening, it's a problem.0
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 On average my seats are in the 200s. But in 2022 I had sec F and in 2010 I had row z I believe behind the GA peopleFastrichie said:
 Definitely, I agree. But the seats I got are way off! That’s the only reason I’m asking.igotid88 said:I don't think it really matters. I have in the mid 100s and have had "bad" seats and on a couple of occasions good seats and other times didn't win. People with higher numbers than me have had better seats throughout the years.I miss igotid880
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