Why no GA only option??? It sucks!

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  • il vecchio
    il vecchio Posts: 143
    tremor_chris said:
    Is it only the German FAQ that mentions early entry? 
    they don't. where did you read that?
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,223
    Having entered for both manc and London Im as nervous as hell now for those GA selections..........
  • BlueLedbetter
    BlueLedbetter Posts: 1,378
    pdalowsky said:
    Having entered for both manc and London Im as nervous as hell now for those GA selections..........
    Especially London as the worst seats will be really bad, but I'm hoping it's the same as always and the limited GA wording is generic and really only applies to the US we will know soon enough
  • tremor_chris
    tremor_chris Posts: 83
    il vecchio said:
    tremor_chris said:
    Is it only the German FAQ that mentions early entry? 
    they don't. where did you read that?
    https://help.ticketmaster.de/hc/de/articles/22456851431441-Pearl-Jam-Dark-Matter-World-Tour-2024
  • il vecchio
    il vecchio Posts: 143
    tremor_chris said:
    il vecchio said:
    tremor_chris said:
    Is it only the German FAQ that mentions early entry? 
    they don't. where did you read that?
    https://help.ticketmaster.de/hc/de/articles/22456851431441-Pearl-Jam-Dark-Matter-World-Tour-2024
    tremor_chris said:
    il vecchio said:
    tremor_chris said:
    Is it only the German FAQ that mentions early entry? 
    they don't. where did you read that?
    https://help.ticketmaster.de/hc/de/articles/22456851431441-Pearl-Jam-Dark-Matter-World-Tour-2024
    "at venues that allow early entry" . Berlin does not, only London and Dublin which have the difference between golden circle and normal standing indeed
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited February 2024
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery. 
    Not calling you a liar, but it being "amazing" for someone would really amaze me - with there having been a GA and a SEATED option for forever (4ever). And not a "GA but perhaps who knows a SEATED".

    I doubt it really amazes you. but who knows.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • axeljohan
    axeljohan Posts: 477
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  
    They are asking around 175 Eur for a ticket. It would be great if I know whether I spend this kind of money for a place near the stage or somewhere in a stadium. I am sure it makes a difference for some.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,908
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  

    I think there's another way to look at it.   With the premium ticket changes and what not, if you don't end up in GA, even with seniority you could end up with pretty mediocre/bad seats.

    I also think it says, I'd like to put in for GA, but if I can't get GA, I'd rather take my chances with ticketmaster and/or fan2fan.

    I can't really say how all this is going down, but I feel like, unless your in one of the crazy demand markets like New York where tickets are really hard to come by, I'm not sure you really need a fan club membership just to obtain nosebleeds?

    I'm not saying this is good or bad, but I think that's the counterargument.    If you were buying tickets off TM, you kind of get to choose if you want the location and price point.  With 10c, your doing a blind bid on tickets and they could end up being pretty bad.

    With all the other concerts I go to.  If I can't pull up good tickets at the regular onsale, I don't buy the tickets.  I bookmark the regular onsale webpage, and routinely check for ticket drops and what not, and buy better tickets later on.
  • tino_11
    tino_11 Posts: 2,188
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  
    If it helps, GA is different in Europe as it's the whole floor. Most than enough capacity to make a GA only option. Add this to the fact that 10c tickets can be at the back, whereas before, the best seats were reserved for 10c, and you can see why people aren't happy. 
    'F*** the pessimists. F*** 'em.' Eddie Vedder
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery. 
    Not calling you a liar, but it being "amazing" for someone would really amaze me - with there having been a GA and a SEATED option for forever (4ever). And not a "GA but perhaps who knows a SEATED".

    I doubt it really amazes you. but who knows.
    no it does amaze me, but I totally unamazed that you are willing to pick a fight about it because that seems to float your boat about every topic on this forum.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    axeljohan said:
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  
    They are asking around 175 Eur for a ticket. It would be great if I know whether I spend this kind of money for a place near the stage or somewhere in a stadium. I am sure it makes a difference for some.
    Welcome to the prices US fans have been paying going back to 2018.  You are now part of universe.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    Zod said:
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  

    I think there's another way to look at it.   With the premium ticket changes and what not, if you don't end up in GA, even with seniority you could end up with pretty mediocre/bad seats.

    I also think it says, I'd like to put in for GA, but if I can't get GA, I'd rather take my chances with ticketmaster and/or fan2fan.

    I can't really say how all this is going down, but I feel like, unless your in one of the crazy demand markets like New York where tickets are really hard to come by, I'm not sure you really need a fan club membership just to obtain nosebleeds?

    I'm not saying this is good or bad, but I think that's the counterargument.    If you were buying tickets off TM, you kind of get to choose if you want the location and price point.  With 10c, your doing a blind bid on tickets and they could end up being pretty bad.

    With all the other concerts I go to.  If I can't pull up good tickets at the regular onsale, I don't buy the tickets.  I bookmark the regular onsale webpage, and routinely check for ticket drops and what not, and buy better tickets later on.
    if people's tenclub memberships are so bad that they end up in nosebleeds that is a bummer, but at the same time they have an option to be in the building.  I am not opting for second tier seating.  but that is the choice I am willing to make and it likely will hurt my odds.  But shooting for GA only in most instances are the worst odds possible.  If people are dissatisfied completely by sitting in the 100s, or floor sections behind GA that is just nuts to me.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,336
    PB11041 said:
    Zod said:
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  

    I think there's another way to look at it.   With the premium ticket changes and what not, if you don't end up in GA, even with seniority you could end up with pretty mediocre/bad seats.

    I also think it says, I'd like to put in for GA, but if I can't get GA, I'd rather take my chances with ticketmaster and/or fan2fan.

    I can't really say how all this is going down, but I feel like, unless your in one of the crazy demand markets like New York where tickets are really hard to come by, I'm not sure you really need a fan club membership just to obtain nosebleeds?

    I'm not saying this is good or bad, but I think that's the counterargument.    If you were buying tickets off TM, you kind of get to choose if you want the location and price point.  With 10c, your doing a blind bid on tickets and they could end up being pretty bad.

    With all the other concerts I go to.  If I can't pull up good tickets at the regular onsale, I don't buy the tickets.  I bookmark the regular onsale webpage, and routinely check for ticket drops and what not, and buy better tickets later on.
    if people's tenclub memberships are so bad that they end up in nosebleeds that is a bummer, but at the same time they have an option to be in the building.  I am not opting for second tier seating.  but that is the choice I am willing to make and it likely will hurt my odds.  But shooting for GA only in most instances are the worst odds possible.  If people are dissatisfied completely by sitting in the 100s, or floor sections behind GA that is just nuts to me.
    The only show I put in for was Chicago 2. I chose GA or P1, which with me having a higher number could mean getting tickets that aren't  great if I don't get picked for GA. It would probably make sense to just wait for verified sale or F2F so that I can control what seats I get, however I want to take a shot at GA. In the end, my wife and I are pretty low maintenance and will enjoy the show from wherever we end up. 
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    JeBurkhardt said:
    PB11041 said:
    Zod said:
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  

    I think there's another way to look at it.   With the premium ticket changes and what not, if you don't end up in GA, even with seniority you could end up with pretty mediocre/bad seats.

    I also think it says, I'd like to put in for GA, but if I can't get GA, I'd rather take my chances with ticketmaster and/or fan2fan.

    I can't really say how all this is going down, but I feel like, unless your in one of the crazy demand markets like New York where tickets are really hard to come by, I'm not sure you really need a fan club membership just to obtain nosebleeds?

    I'm not saying this is good or bad, but I think that's the counterargument.    If you were buying tickets off TM, you kind of get to choose if you want the location and price point.  With 10c, your doing a blind bid on tickets and they could end up being pretty bad.

    With all the other concerts I go to.  If I can't pull up good tickets at the regular onsale, I don't buy the tickets.  I bookmark the regular onsale webpage, and routinely check for ticket drops and what not, and buy better tickets later on.
    if people's tenclub memberships are so bad that they end up in nosebleeds that is a bummer, but at the same time they have an option to be in the building.  I am not opting for second tier seating.  but that is the choice I am willing to make and it likely will hurt my odds.  But shooting for GA only in most instances are the worst odds possible.  If people are dissatisfied completely by sitting in the 100s, or floor sections behind GA that is just nuts to me.
    The only show I put in for was Chicago 2. I chose GA or P1, which with me having a higher number could mean getting tickets that aren't  great if I don't get picked for GA. It would probably make sense to just wait for verified sale or F2F so that I can control what seats I get, however I want to take a shot at GA. In the end, my wife and I are pretty low maintenance and will enjoy the show from wherever we end up. 
    true, but you also have exactly the same odds as getting GA for that show, as any member no matter when they began, so that is the upside the absolute best possible seats are non number driven, it is just luck of the draw.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,336
    PB11041 said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    PB11041 said:
    Zod said:
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  

    I think there's another way to look at it.   With the premium ticket changes and what not, if you don't end up in GA, even with seniority you could end up with pretty mediocre/bad seats.

    I also think it says, I'd like to put in for GA, but if I can't get GA, I'd rather take my chances with ticketmaster and/or fan2fan.

    I can't really say how all this is going down, but I feel like, unless your in one of the crazy demand markets like New York where tickets are really hard to come by, I'm not sure you really need a fan club membership just to obtain nosebleeds?

    I'm not saying this is good or bad, but I think that's the counterargument.    If you were buying tickets off TM, you kind of get to choose if you want the location and price point.  With 10c, your doing a blind bid on tickets and they could end up being pretty bad.

    With all the other concerts I go to.  If I can't pull up good tickets at the regular onsale, I don't buy the tickets.  I bookmark the regular onsale webpage, and routinely check for ticket drops and what not, and buy better tickets later on.
    if people's tenclub memberships are so bad that they end up in nosebleeds that is a bummer, but at the same time they have an option to be in the building.  I am not opting for second tier seating.  but that is the choice I am willing to make and it likely will hurt my odds.  But shooting for GA only in most instances are the worst odds possible.  If people are dissatisfied completely by sitting in the 100s, or floor sections behind GA that is just nuts to me.
    The only show I put in for was Chicago 2. I chose GA or P1, which with me having a higher number could mean getting tickets that aren't  great if I don't get picked for GA. It would probably make sense to just wait for verified sale or F2F so that I can control what seats I get, however I want to take a shot at GA. In the end, my wife and I are pretty low maintenance and will enjoy the show from wherever we end up. 
    true, but you also have exactly the same odds as getting GA for that show, as any member no matter when they began, so that is the upside the absolute best possible seats are non number driven, it is just luck of the draw.
    That is where the hope comes in!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    edited February 2024
    PB11041 said:
    The GA or bust position is just amazing to me. If you only want to be in the GA section and other seats are beneath you don't enter the lottery.   The way it is now, if you have joined the fanclub last week, you could stand just as good a chance as getting GA as a member from 1991.  Deal with it.  

    But the seats are mostly pretty bad seats for the price. That's the big problem. 10C reserved mostly aren't the best in the house anymore (a small number of long-time members will get good ones). Those are now for those who can afford premium tickets. The whole thing is pretty BS if you ask me. They absolutely should still have a GA only option, when the alternative puts fan club members in the rafters for the SAME PRICE, and at the same time crippling the fan club members' ability to even sell the bad reserved tix they don't want, since they aren't good tickets and cost too much. There is nothing about this new method that isn't worse for 10C members. The result is clear: so many members are saying they aren't even going to register for the 10C sale because of this and just stick with the general sale, which makes their membership pretty damn useless. I feel like PJ are shooting themselves in the feet here.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • huntersthompson
    huntersthompson Posts: 1,033
    edited February 2024
    I hate even dipping my toe into this conversation as everyone has differing (but pretty close) views on this...especially if we have watched the degredation of seat locations over the years.  For me the F2F option has made this "GA or lower seats" selection pretty simple.  If you hate your seats it is easy to place them into the F2F portal to sell them to someone who doesn't mind being "in the house".  You have to put your name into the hat for the GA tickets though... "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take".  For me it is completely worth it to remain a 10C member for the potential of getting a GA ticket...
    I know that it won't have any bearing, but I did finally (luckily?) get GA seats to the cancelled Sacramento (hometown) show.  I am not sure that lightning will strike twice and that I will be awarded those tickets again....but I am crossing my fingers that it does.
  • RS65573
    RS65573 Posts: 2,499
    I put in for 11 shows.

    Realistically I hope to get 3 or 4. Indeed, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    edited February 2024
    huntersthompson said:
    I hate even dipping my toe into this conversation as everyone has differing (but pretty close) views on this...especially if we have watched the degredation of seat locations over the years.  For me the F2F option has made this "GA or lower seats" selection pretty simple.  If you hate your seats it is easy to place them into the F2F portal to sell them to someone who doesn't mind being "in the house".  You have to put your name into the hat for the GA tickets though... "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take".  For me it is completely worth it to remain a 10C member for the potential of getting a GA ticket...
    I know that it won't have any bearing, but I did finally (luckily?) get GA seats to the cancelled Sacramento (hometown) show.  I am not sure that lightning will strike twice and that I will be awarded those tickets again....but I am crossing my fingers that it does.
    Yeah, I'm just tossing in in case I get GA. I'm okay with not having GA, but I'm not okay with having a bad seat, so I'm really concerned about how this is going to pan out for me. I might end up buying a premium seat (and there is nothing wrong with wanting a really great seat for your favourite band who you haven't seen live in 11 years), and then find myself unable to sell my 10C single up in the rafters for what I paid... If I don't get GA, the likelihood of me losing money is pretty high. I know these are my decisions, but it does suck that a 10C member is put in the position to worry about this at all. 

    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata

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