14 years and counting...

CBP union supports the bill

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I was going to post that and decided not to.  It's a bad look for sure.

Thankfully this is an isolated incident.  If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.

Isolated yes.  The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer. 

No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked. 

nicknyr15 said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I was going to post that and decided not to.  It's a bad look for sure.

Thankfully this is an isolated incident.  If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.

Isolated yes.  The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer. 

It’s disgusting honestly. 

I was just in NYC for a couple of days...about a week after this happened.  Watched a bit on the news about it.  I was pretty amazed to see in person the camps, etc (Randall's island?).  Also - the news stories about giving the migrants pre-paid credit cards that are re-loadable.  Costing the city $53 million?  $1000/month was it?  I believe in an effort to actually reduce the costs associated with feeding them.

It's all pretty crazy to me.

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I was going to post that and decided not to.  It's a bad look for sure.

Thankfully this is an isolated incident.  If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.

Isolated yes.  The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer. 

No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked. 

Are you speaking from the hip here?  There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...

I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.

I’m speaking about a general policy which is what I inferred from Cincy’s comment. 

I’m all for deporting criminal immigrants, but as I understand it, the 6th amendment applies to non-citizens as well as citizens, so there still has to be due process. 

I am a bit confused by your statement.  If you are saying don't just immediately deport....I can see that, I disagree, but I understand.  If you are saying setting bail for people that attack cops isn't ok....I wouldn't agree.  It's the bare minimum that can be done.

cincybearcat said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I was going to post that and decided not to.  It's a bad look for sure.

Thankfully this is an isolated incident.  If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.

Isolated yes.  The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer. 

No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked. 

Are you speaking from the hip here?  There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...

I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.

I’m speaking about a general policy which is what I inferred from Cincy’s comment. 

I’m all for deporting criminal immigrants, but as I understand it, the 6th amendment applies to non-citizens as well as citizens, so there still has to be due process. 

I am a bit confused by your statement.  If you are saying don't just immediately deport....I can see that, I disagree, but I understand.  If you are saying setting bail for people that attack cops isn't ok....I wouldn't agree.  It's the bare minimum that can be done.

I may have misunderstood your comment... I thought you were saying there should be no bail in a case of someone attacking a police officer. If I understood it correctly, then my point stands... I don't agree that people should be held indefinitely based on the word alone of a police officer that he was attacked. I don't think ACAB, but I'm also not naive enough to think cops never lie. 

In this particular case, if there's clear cut evidence of the released men having attacked the police, then the DA's decision to grant bail defies logic.

Regarding immediate deportation without due process, that would be unconstitutional. People who are here legally are entitled to 6th amendment rights. 

Merkin Baller said:

cincybearcat said:

Merkin Baller said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

cincybearcat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I was going to post that and decided not to.  It's a bad look for sure.

Thankfully this is an isolated incident.  If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.

Isolated yes.  The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer. 

No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked. 

Are you speaking from the hip here?  There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...

I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.

I’m speaking about a general policy which is what I inferred from Cincy’s comment. 

I’m all for deporting criminal immigrants, but as I understand it, the 6th amendment applies to non-citizens as well as citizens, so there still has to be due process. 

I am a bit confused by your statement.  If you are saying don't just immediately deport....I can see that, I disagree, but I understand.  If you are saying setting bail for people that attack cops isn't ok....I wouldn't agree.  It's the bare minimum that can be done.

I may have misunderstood your comment... I thought you were saying there should be no bail in a case of someone attacking a police officer. If I understood it correctly, then my point stands... I don't agree that people should be held indefinitely based on the word alone of a police officer that he was attacked. I don't think ACAB, but I'm also not naive enough to think cops never lie. 

In this particular case, if there's clear cut evidence of the released men having attacked the police, then the DA's decision to grant bail defies logic.

Regarding immediate deportation without due process, that would be unconstitutional. People who are here legally are entitled to 6th amendment rights. 

Ah in this case they didn't ask for bail and they were released pending trial...or whatever.  My opinion is if you attack a police officer always set bail...as it is allowed within the law.

Nobody wants to talk about how the republicans have a pretty easy way of helping this problem, but are choosing not to, for political reasons? 

We're all on the same page about them being disingenuous about literally every issue that can possible existincluding the one they claim to care most about?

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Nobody wants to talk about how the republicans have a pretty easy way of helping this problem, but are choosing not to, for political reasons? 

We're all on the same page about them being disingenuous about literally every issue that can possible existincluding the one they claim to care most about?

It's truly remarkable how conservative voters are being played on this issue and they just don't care. 

Trump & the GOP had 2 years to get things done and couldn't,. But sure... somehow the next time will be different.   

No kidding.  It's a dereliction of duty.  Bunch of voters pretending to hate the government...hate politics....100% ok with their elected officials doing nothing when they have a chance at helping an issue they say is a priority....because it may serve a political purpose in a freakin year????

And people buy the bullshit when someone purposely not doing their job to blame someone else for a problem.  These same fuckers go on facebook or sit at the bar complaining to their friends about their co-workers and bosses that behave that way.  So frustrating.

cincybearcat said:

Merkin Baller said:

The Juggler said:

Nobody wants to talk about how the republicans have a pretty easy way of helping this problem, but are choosing not to, for political reasons? 

We're all on the same page about them being disingenuous about literally every issue that can possible existincluding the one they claim to care most about?

It's truly remarkable how conservative voters are being played on this issue and they just don't care. 

Trump & the GOP had 2 years to get things done and couldn't,. But sure... somehow the next time will be different.   

No kidding.  It's a dereliction of duty.  Bunch of voters pretending to hate the government...hate politics....100% ok with their elected officials doing nothing when they have a chance at helping an issue they say is a priority....because it may serve a political purpose in a freakin year????

And people buy the bullshit when someone purposely not doing their job to blame someone else for a problem.  These same fuckers go on facebook or sit at the bar complaining to their friends about their co-workers and bosses that behave that way.  So frustrating.

The democrats must actively take control of this issue this year. We have absolute 100% proof that these fuckers are not interested in solving the problem at this point.