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Spoiler: it's not just her.JeBurkhardt said:
For sure optics and political posturing is much better than helping solve a humanitarian crisis for people seeking refuge in our country. Nice to see that people's lives mean so much to her.Merkin Baller said:lol
But in fairness, this is to be expected when an entire group of people are dehumanized. If only there was a historical precedent for this sort of thing.0 -
Unemployment in New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA Metropolitan Statistical Area was 4.2%, unadjusted, for November.
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Who are u referring to?Merkin Baller said:It's the most important issue facing our country, but not so important that they're going to do anything about it this year.
Do you feel like you're being played? You should, because you are.0 -
You argued for them being put on a bus before to come here now you are ok with it? Please choose a different topic, thanks.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think it’s a preconceived notion for the migrants to think of NYC as the “land of opportunity” or that perhaps they have family or friends who preceded them, and thus a support network in place? I’m not sure why you have difficulty, seemingly, understanding why migrants would want to land in NYC, Statue of Liberty notwithstanding? Seems Abbott and Costello is lashing out by shipping them to dem cities thinking he’s doing something about immigration and hoping those cities will fall. Like Seattle.tempo_n_groove said:
I've posted and discussed this topic w you before. Articles I've posted actually mention the migrants wanting to come here. That is when Adams started his campaign to advocate them not to come to NYC and the flyers started to be passed out along the border a few months ago.Halifax2TheMax said:
How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”tempo_n_groove said:
Whataboutisms...Halifax2TheMax said:
What if NY, MA, VT, DC, etc. bussed them to small towns in red states like SC, AL, MS, AR, OK, IA, TN, IN or dropped them off in small, rural towns in TX in the middle of the night with no advance warning? Or outside the gates of Mar-I-Lieo? Does that change your mind?tempo_n_groove said:
What if they want to be bussed here? Does that change your mind?Merkin Baller said:
Which is pretty fucking inhumane, no?tempo_n_groove said:
Well that's not true. The buses from Texas keep coming here to NY so something is still being done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothings being done except drawing up articles of impeachment for Mayjorkis (sp?).Merkin Baller said:
I would hope we can agree on that.
Answer my question first.
I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.
Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
Would that change your mind?
If Adams does that we can discuss it. Nice take though.
Did you ever find out how those migrants were able to procure scooters and cell phones?
And yes I did.0 -
Anyone who buys what the GOP is selling about the border.tempo_n_groove said:
Who are u referring to?Merkin Baller said:It's the most important issue facing our country, but not so important that they're going to do anything about it this year.
Do you feel like you're being played? You should, because you are.
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And how do they procure cell phones and scooters?tempo_n_groove said:
You argued for them being put on a bus before to come here now you are ok with it? Please choose a different topic, thanks.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think it’s a preconceived notion for the migrants to think of NYC as the “land of opportunity” or that perhaps they have family or friends who preceded them, and thus a support network in place? I’m not sure why you have difficulty, seemingly, understanding why migrants would want to land in NYC, Statue of Liberty notwithstanding? Seems Abbott and Costello is lashing out by shipping them to dem cities thinking he’s doing something about immigration and hoping those cities will fall. Like Seattle.tempo_n_groove said:
I've posted and discussed this topic w you before. Articles I've posted actually mention the migrants wanting to come here. That is when Adams started his campaign to advocate them not to come to NYC and the flyers started to be passed out along the border a few months ago.Halifax2TheMax said:
How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”tempo_n_groove said:
Whataboutisms...Halifax2TheMax said:
What if NY, MA, VT, DC, etc. bussed them to small towns in red states like SC, AL, MS, AR, OK, IA, TN, IN or dropped them off in small, rural towns in TX in the middle of the night with no advance warning? Or outside the gates of Mar-I-Lieo? Does that change your mind?tempo_n_groove said:
What if they want to be bussed here? Does that change your mind?Merkin Baller said:
Which is pretty fucking inhumane, no?tempo_n_groove said:
Well that's not true. The buses from Texas keep coming here to NY so something is still being done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothings being done except drawing up articles of impeachment for Mayjorkis (sp?).Merkin Baller said:
I would hope we can agree on that.
Answer my question first.
I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.
Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
Would that change your mind?
If Adams does that we can discuss it. Nice take though.
Did you ever find out how those migrants were able to procure scooters and cell phones?
And yes I did.
I don’t have an issue with migrants. I have an issue with how the “richest and most powerful nation in world history” and a majority of its population considers and treats them, particularly with the way “Christian foundation” gets tossed around. Boo!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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They have an internal loan program. They can purchase scooters with loans from others but can't get them registered, hence the police crackdown on unregistered scooters.Halifax2TheMax said:
And how do they procure cell phones and scooters?tempo_n_groove said:
You argued for them being put on a bus before to come here now you are ok with it? Please choose a different topic, thanks.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think it’s a preconceived notion for the migrants to think of NYC as the “land of opportunity” or that perhaps they have family or friends who preceded them, and thus a support network in place? I’m not sure why you have difficulty, seemingly, understanding why migrants would want to land in NYC, Statue of Liberty notwithstanding? Seems Abbott and Costello is lashing out by shipping them to dem cities thinking he’s doing something about immigration and hoping those cities will fall. Like Seattle.tempo_n_groove said:
I've posted and discussed this topic w you before. Articles I've posted actually mention the migrants wanting to come here. That is when Adams started his campaign to advocate them not to come to NYC and the flyers started to be passed out along the border a few months ago.Halifax2TheMax said:
How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”tempo_n_groove said:
Whataboutisms...Halifax2TheMax said:
What if NY, MA, VT, DC, etc. bussed them to small towns in red states like SC, AL, MS, AR, OK, IA, TN, IN or dropped them off in small, rural towns in TX in the middle of the night with no advance warning? Or outside the gates of Mar-I-Lieo? Does that change your mind?tempo_n_groove said:
What if they want to be bussed here? Does that change your mind?Merkin Baller said:
Which is pretty fucking inhumane, no?tempo_n_groove said:
Well that's not true. The buses from Texas keep coming here to NY so something is still being done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothings being done except drawing up articles of impeachment for Mayjorkis (sp?).Merkin Baller said:
I would hope we can agree on that.
Answer my question first.
I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.
Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
Would that change your mind?
If Adams does that we can discuss it. Nice take though.
Did you ever find out how those migrants were able to procure scooters and cell phones?
And yes I did.
I don’t have an issue with migrants. I have an issue with how the “richest and most powerful nation in world history” and a majority of its population considers and treats them, particularly with the way “Christian foundation” gets tossed around. Boo!
Same goes w the phones. To do deliveries the phones they are given will not allow them to download the app so they borrow someone's phone to make the deliveries.
Now I didn't ask if they were being sharked or not.
My issue is that the influx is unsustainable. We aren't designed to take, as a nation, the amount of people in such a short time.0 -
You could shut the border down at this point and they would cry foul...Merkin Baller said:
Anyone who buys what the GOP is selling about the border.tempo_n_groove said:
Who are u referring to?Merkin Baller said:It's the most important issue facing our country, but not so important that they're going to do anything about it this year.
Do you feel like you're being played? You should, because you are.0 -
Can the border be shut down? I’m asking because I don’t think you understand the ramifications, even if it could be accomplished.tempo_n_groove said:
You could shut the border down at this point and they would cry foul...Merkin Baller said:
Anyone who buys what the GOP is selling about the border.tempo_n_groove said:
Who are u referring to?Merkin Baller said:It's the most important issue facing our country, but not so important that they're going to do anything about it this year.
Do you feel like you're being played? You should, because you are.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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What if repubs agreed and supported Brandon’s immigration funding request? Would the nation be able to handle it?tempo_n_groove said:
They have an internal loan program. They can purchase scooters with loans from others but can't get them registered, hence the police crackdown on unregistered scooters.Halifax2TheMax said:
And how do they procure cell phones and scooters?tempo_n_groove said:
You argued for them being put on a bus before to come here now you are ok with it? Please choose a different topic, thanks.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think it’s a preconceived notion for the migrants to think of NYC as the “land of opportunity” or that perhaps they have family or friends who preceded them, and thus a support network in place? I’m not sure why you have difficulty, seemingly, understanding why migrants would want to land in NYC, Statue of Liberty notwithstanding? Seems Abbott and Costello is lashing out by shipping them to dem cities thinking he’s doing something about immigration and hoping those cities will fall. Like Seattle.tempo_n_groove said:
I've posted and discussed this topic w you before. Articles I've posted actually mention the migrants wanting to come here. That is when Adams started his campaign to advocate them not to come to NYC and the flyers started to be passed out along the border a few months ago.Halifax2TheMax said:
How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”tempo_n_groove said:
Whataboutisms...Halifax2TheMax said:
What if NY, MA, VT, DC, etc. bussed them to small towns in red states like SC, AL, MS, AR, OK, IA, TN, IN or dropped them off in small, rural towns in TX in the middle of the night with no advance warning? Or outside the gates of Mar-I-Lieo? Does that change your mind?tempo_n_groove said:
What if they want to be bussed here? Does that change your mind?Merkin Baller said:
Which is pretty fucking inhumane, no?tempo_n_groove said:
Well that's not true. The buses from Texas keep coming here to NY so something is still being done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothings being done except drawing up articles of impeachment for Mayjorkis (sp?).Merkin Baller said:
I would hope we can agree on that.
Answer my question first.
I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.
Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
Would that change your mind?
If Adams does that we can discuss it. Nice take though.
Did you ever find out how those migrants were able to procure scooters and cell phones?
And yes I did.
I don’t have an issue with migrants. I have an issue with how the “richest and most powerful nation in world history” and a majority of its population considers and treats them, particularly with the way “Christian foundation” gets tossed around. Boo!
Same goes w the phones. To do deliveries the phones they are given will not allow them to download the app so they borrow someone's phone to make the deliveries.
Now I didn't ask if they were being sharked or not.
My issue is that the influx is unsustainable. We aren't designed to take, as a nation, the amount of people in such a short time.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I don't think you understand what closing the border means. Letting in asylum seekers at 300k a month isnt exactly a recipe for success imo.Halifax2TheMax said:
Can the border be shut down? I’m asking because I don’t think you understand the ramifications, even if it could be accomplished.tempo_n_groove said:
You could shut the border down at this point and they would cry foul...Merkin Baller said:
Anyone who buys what the GOP is selling about the border.tempo_n_groove said:
Who are u referring to?Merkin Baller said:It's the most important issue facing our country, but not so important that they're going to do anything about it this year.
Do you feel like you're being played? You should, because you are.0 -
I'll agree w whatever your answer is.Halifax2TheMax said:
What if repubs agreed and supported Brandon’s immigration funding request? Would the nation be able to handle it?tempo_n_groove said:
They have an internal loan program. They can purchase scooters with loans from others but can't get them registered, hence the police crackdown on unregistered scooters.Halifax2TheMax said:
And how do they procure cell phones and scooters?tempo_n_groove said:
You argued for them being put on a bus before to come here now you are ok with it? Please choose a different topic, thanks.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think it’s a preconceived notion for the migrants to think of NYC as the “land of opportunity” or that perhaps they have family or friends who preceded them, and thus a support network in place? I’m not sure why you have difficulty, seemingly, understanding why migrants would want to land in NYC, Statue of Liberty notwithstanding? Seems Abbott and Costello is lashing out by shipping them to dem cities thinking he’s doing something about immigration and hoping those cities will fall. Like Seattle.tempo_n_groove said:
I've posted and discussed this topic w you before. Articles I've posted actually mention the migrants wanting to come here. That is when Adams started his campaign to advocate them not to come to NYC and the flyers started to be passed out along the border a few months ago.Halifax2TheMax said:
How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”tempo_n_groove said:
Whataboutisms...Halifax2TheMax said:
What if NY, MA, VT, DC, etc. bussed them to small towns in red states like SC, AL, MS, AR, OK, IA, TN, IN or dropped them off in small, rural towns in TX in the middle of the night with no advance warning? Or outside the gates of Mar-I-Lieo? Does that change your mind?tempo_n_groove said:
What if they want to be bussed here? Does that change your mind?Merkin Baller said:
Which is pretty fucking inhumane, no?tempo_n_groove said:
Well that's not true. The buses from Texas keep coming here to NY so something is still being done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothings being done except drawing up articles of impeachment for Mayjorkis (sp?).Merkin Baller said:
I would hope we can agree on that.
Answer my question first.
I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.
Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
Would that change your mind?
If Adams does that we can discuss it. Nice take though.
Did you ever find out how those migrants were able to procure scooters and cell phones?
And yes I did.
I don’t have an issue with migrants. I have an issue with how the “richest and most powerful nation in world history” and a majority of its population considers and treats them, particularly with the way “Christian foundation” gets tossed around. Boo!
Same goes w the phones. To do deliveries the phones they are given will not allow them to download the app so they borrow someone's phone to make the deliveries.
Now I didn't ask if they were being sharked or not.
My issue is that the influx is unsustainable. We aren't designed to take, as a nation, the amount of people in such a short time.0 -
So explain to me, in your mind, what does shutting down the border consist of?tempo_n_groove said:
I don't think you understand what closing the border means. Letting in asylum seekers at 300k a month isnt exactly a recipe for success imo.Halifax2TheMax said:
Can the border be shut down? I’m asking because I don’t think you understand the ramifications, even if it could be accomplished.tempo_n_groove said:
You could shut the border down at this point and they would cry foul...Merkin Baller said:
Anyone who buys what the GOP is selling about the border.tempo_n_groove said:
Who are u referring to?Merkin Baller said:It's the most important issue facing our country, but not so important that they're going to do anything about it this year.
Do you feel like you're being played? You should, because you are.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Because you don’t know what the impact of Brandon’s funding request would mean for “controlling the border.” Just like you don’t know what the ramifications of closing the border would be. It’s easier to say, “nothing is being done,” look around where you live and work and think what you see is how it is everywhere in ‘Murica and then blame the Brandon Crime Family, do I have that right?tempo_n_groove said:
I'll agree w whatever your answer is.Halifax2TheMax said:
What if repubs agreed and supported Brandon’s immigration funding request? Would the nation be able to handle it?tempo_n_groove said:
They have an internal loan program. They can purchase scooters with loans from others but can't get them registered, hence the police crackdown on unregistered scooters.Halifax2TheMax said:
And how do they procure cell phones and scooters?tempo_n_groove said:
You argued for them being put on a bus before to come here now you are ok with it? Please choose a different topic, thanks.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think it’s a preconceived notion for the migrants to think of NYC as the “land of opportunity” or that perhaps they have family or friends who preceded them, and thus a support network in place? I’m not sure why you have difficulty, seemingly, understanding why migrants would want to land in NYC, Statue of Liberty notwithstanding? Seems Abbott and Costello is lashing out by shipping them to dem cities thinking he’s doing something about immigration and hoping those cities will fall. Like Seattle.tempo_n_groove said:
I've posted and discussed this topic w you before. Articles I've posted actually mention the migrants wanting to come here. That is when Adams started his campaign to advocate them not to come to NYC and the flyers started to be passed out along the border a few months ago.Halifax2TheMax said:
How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”tempo_n_groove said:
Whataboutisms...Halifax2TheMax said:
What if NY, MA, VT, DC, etc. bussed them to small towns in red states like SC, AL, MS, AR, OK, IA, TN, IN or dropped them off in small, rural towns in TX in the middle of the night with no advance warning? Or outside the gates of Mar-I-Lieo? Does that change your mind?tempo_n_groove said:
What if they want to be bussed here? Does that change your mind?Merkin Baller said:
Which is pretty fucking inhumane, no?tempo_n_groove said:
Well that's not true. The buses from Texas keep coming here to NY so something is still being done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothings being done except drawing up articles of impeachment for Mayjorkis (sp?).Merkin Baller said:
I would hope we can agree on that.
Answer my question first.
I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.
Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
Would that change your mind?
If Adams does that we can discuss it. Nice take though.
Did you ever find out how those migrants were able to procure scooters and cell phones?
And yes I did.
I don’t have an issue with migrants. I have an issue with how the “richest and most powerful nation in world history” and a majority of its population considers and treats them, particularly with the way “Christian foundation” gets tossed around. Boo!
Same goes w the phones. To do deliveries the phones they are given will not allow them to download the app so they borrow someone's phone to make the deliveries.
Now I didn't ask if they were being sharked or not.
My issue is that the influx is unsustainable. We aren't designed to take, as a nation, the amount of people in such a short time.
Abbott & Costello and Deathsantis’ approach is really stemming the tide, just like POOTWH’s wall that Mexico paid for.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Immigration negotiations in Congress center on parole, asylum policy
By: Ariana Figueroa - January 10, 2024 4:10 am
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer says he believes talks on immigration have made progress and “we’re going to be persistent.” (Photo by Jennifer Shutt/States Newsroom)
WASHINGTON — A deal on changes to immigration policy remained elusive on Tuesday for top U.S. Senate negotiators.
Those leading the talks — Sens. James Lankford, Republican of Oklahoma, Chris Murphy, Democrat of Connecticut and Kyrsten Sinema, independent of Arizona — have worked for weeks to strike a deal between the White House and Senate Republicans on immigration policy changes at the U.S. Southern border.
Congress was on a break for the holidays but returned this week.
“Everybody’s still at the table talking, so that’s a good thing,” Lankford said, adding that he’s hoping there can be bill text later this week.
Democratic Senate Leader Chuck Schumer of New York said that negotiations on an immigration deal have made progress.
“We’re going to be persistent,” Schumer said. “We’re closer today to an agreement than we have ever been.”
For the past month, the Biden administration has been negotiating with that group of bipartisan senators to strike a deal that would tighten immigration restrictions in exchange for passage of a more than $100 billion in emergency supplemental aid for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and U.S. border security.
“There needs to be a strong border provision (as) part of (the supplemental),” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said during a Tuesday press conference.
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I agree w you, youre right!Halifax2TheMax said:
Because you don’t know what the impact of Brandon’s funding request would mean for “controlling the border.” Just like you don’t know what the ramifications of closing the border would be. It’s easier to say, “nothing is being done,” look around where you live and work and think what you see is how it is everywhere in ‘Murica and then blame the Brandon Crime Family, do I have that right?tempo_n_groove said:
I'll agree w whatever your answer is.Halifax2TheMax said:
What if repubs agreed and supported Brandon’s immigration funding request? Would the nation be able to handle it?tempo_n_groove said:
They have an internal loan program. They can purchase scooters with loans from others but can't get them registered, hence the police crackdown on unregistered scooters.Halifax2TheMax said:
And how do they procure cell phones and scooters?tempo_n_groove said:
You argued for them being put on a bus before to come here now you are ok with it? Please choose a different topic, thanks.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you think it’s a preconceived notion for the migrants to think of NYC as the “land of opportunity” or that perhaps they have family or friends who preceded them, and thus a support network in place? I’m not sure why you have difficulty, seemingly, understanding why migrants would want to land in NYC, Statue of Liberty notwithstanding? Seems Abbott and Costello is lashing out by shipping them to dem cities thinking he’s doing something about immigration and hoping those cities will fall. Like Seattle.tempo_n_groove said:
I've posted and discussed this topic w you before. Articles I've posted actually mention the migrants wanting to come here. That is when Adams started his campaign to advocate them not to come to NYC and the flyers started to be passed out along the border a few months ago.Halifax2TheMax said:
How do you know if the migrants are asked where they want to go? I’m guessing they may or not be told where they’re going or being sent. Do you think they all say, “I want a bus to NYC, please?”tempo_n_groove said:
Whataboutisms...Halifax2TheMax said:
What if NY, MA, VT, DC, etc. bussed them to small towns in red states like SC, AL, MS, AR, OK, IA, TN, IN or dropped them off in small, rural towns in TX in the middle of the night with no advance warning? Or outside the gates of Mar-I-Lieo? Does that change your mind?tempo_n_groove said:
What if they want to be bussed here? Does that change your mind?Merkin Baller said:
Which is pretty fucking inhumane, no?tempo_n_groove said:
Well that's not true. The buses from Texas keep coming here to NY so something is still being done.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothings being done except drawing up articles of impeachment for Mayjorkis (sp?).Merkin Baller said:
I would hope we can agree on that.
Answer my question first.
I think they go by luck of the draw where Abbott and Costello tells the bus company where to go. Just added cruelty.
Now, what about it Eric Adams just bussed them to podunk red state small towns or dropped Them off at huge evangelical churches on a Sunday in red states, so we could witness the Christian compassion so prevalent.
Would that change your mind?
If Adams does that we can discuss it. Nice take though.
Did you ever find out how those migrants were able to procure scooters and cell phones?
And yes I did.
I don’t have an issue with migrants. I have an issue with how the “richest and most powerful nation in world history” and a majority of its population considers and treats them, particularly with the way “Christian foundation” gets tossed around. Boo!
Same goes w the phones. To do deliveries the phones they are given will not allow them to download the app so they borrow someone's phone to make the deliveries.
Now I didn't ask if they were being sharked or not.
My issue is that the influx is unsustainable. We aren't designed to take, as a nation, the amount of people in such a short time.
Abbott & Costello and Deathsantis’ approach is really stemming the tide, just like POOTWH’s wall that Mexico paid for.0 -
This gets crickets...tempo_n_groove said:Mexico demands from the US to help w the border fiasco...
In a press conference on Friday, López Obrador called on the U.S. to approve a plan that would deploy $20 billion to Latin American and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally.
In a press conference on Friday, López Obrador called on the U.S. to approve a plan that would deploy $20 billion to Latin American and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally.
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Because Mexico is going to pay for it.tempo_n_groove said:
This gets crickets...tempo_n_groove said:Mexico demands from the US to help w the border fiasco...
In a press conference on Friday, López Obrador called on the U.S. to approve a plan that would deploy $20 billion to Latin American and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally.
In a press conference on Friday, López Obrador called on the U.S. to approve a plan that would deploy $20 billion to Latin American and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally.
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tempo_n_groove said:
This gets crickets...tempo_n_groove said:Mexico demands from the US to help w the border fiasco...
In a press conference on Friday, López Obrador called on the U.S. to approve a plan that would deploy $20 billion to Latin American and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally.
In a press conference on Friday, López Obrador called on the U.S. to approve a plan that would deploy $20 billion to Latin American and Caribbean countries, suspend the U.S. blockade of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela and grant at least 10 million Hispanics living in the U.S. the right to remain and work legally.
because its going nowhere?
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