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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.hippiemom = goodness0 -
No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.0 -
Are you speaking from the hip here? There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...Merkin Baller said:
No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.
I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.0 -
It’s disgusting honestly.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.0 -
what law or policy is in place that requires this? local or state?
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
I was just in NYC for a couple of days...about a week after this happened. Watched a bit on the news about it. I was pretty amazed to see in person the camps, etc (Randall's island?). Also - the news stories about giving the migrants pre-paid credit cards that are re-loadable. Costing the city $53 million? $1000/month was it? I believe in an effort to actually reduce the costs associated with feeding them.nicknyr15 said:
It’s disgusting honestly.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.
It's all pretty crazy to me.hippiemom = goodness0 -
I’m speaking about a general policy which is what I inferred from Cincy’s comment.tempo_n_groove said:
Are you speaking from the hip here? There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...Merkin Baller said:
No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.
I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.I’m all for deporting criminal immigrants, but as I understand it, the 6th amendment applies to non-citizens as well as citizens, so there still has to be due process.0 -
I am a bit confused by your statement. If you are saying don't just immediately deport....I can see that, I disagree, but I understand. If you are saying setting bail for people that attack cops isn't ok....I wouldn't agree. It's the bare minimum that can be done.Merkin Baller said:
I’m speaking about a general policy which is what I inferred from Cincy’s comment.tempo_n_groove said:
Are you speaking from the hip here? There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...Merkin Baller said:
No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.
I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.I’m all for deporting criminal immigrants, but as I understand it, the 6th amendment applies to non-citizens as well as citizens, so there still has to be due process.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Is it isolated though? Or did we just hear about it because it was police that were assaulted?tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.0 -
I may have misunderstood your comment... I thought you were saying there should be no bail in a case of someone attacking a police officer. If I understood it correctly, then my point stands... I don't agree that people should be held indefinitely based on the word alone of a police officer that he was attacked. I don't think ACAB, but I'm also not naive enough to think cops never lie.cincybearcat said:
I am a bit confused by your statement. If you are saying don't just immediately deport....I can see that, I disagree, but I understand. If you are saying setting bail for people that attack cops isn't ok....I wouldn't agree. It's the bare minimum that can be done.Merkin Baller said:
I’m speaking about a general policy which is what I inferred from Cincy’s comment.tempo_n_groove said:
Are you speaking from the hip here? There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...Merkin Baller said:
No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.
I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.I’m all for deporting criminal immigrants, but as I understand it, the 6th amendment applies to non-citizens as well as citizens, so there still has to be due process.
In this particular case, if there's clear cut evidence of the released men having attacked the police, then the DA's decision to grant bail defies logic.
Regarding immediate deportation without due process, that would be unconstitutional. People who are here legally are entitled to 6th amendment rights.0 -
We would for sure hear about it. I walk by the hotels in the city frequently and nothing has happened when I was there.bootlegger10 said:
Is it isolated though? Or did we just hear about it because it was police that were assaulted?tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.
I would be the first to post it but like I said, was an isolated incident. If more arise then people will get fed up with that real quick.0 -
Ah in this case they didn't ask for bail and they were released pending trial...or whatever. My opinion is if you attack a police officer always set bail...as it is allowed within the law.Merkin Baller said:
I may have misunderstood your comment... I thought you were saying there should be no bail in a case of someone attacking a police officer. If I understood it correctly, then my point stands... I don't agree that people should be held indefinitely based on the word alone of a police officer that he was attacked. I don't think ACAB, but I'm also not naive enough to think cops never lie.cincybearcat said:
I am a bit confused by your statement. If you are saying don't just immediately deport....I can see that, I disagree, but I understand. If you are saying setting bail for people that attack cops isn't ok....I wouldn't agree. It's the bare minimum that can be done.Merkin Baller said:
I’m speaking about a general policy which is what I inferred from Cincy’s comment.tempo_n_groove said:
Are you speaking from the hip here? There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...Merkin Baller said:
No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.
I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.I’m all for deporting criminal immigrants, but as I understand it, the 6th amendment applies to non-citizens as well as citizens, so there still has to be due process.
In this particular case, if there's clear cut evidence of the released men having attacked the police, then the DA's decision to grant bail defies logic.
Regarding immediate deportation without due process, that would be unconstitutional. People who are here legally are entitled to 6th amendment rights.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Gotcha. I definitely misunderstood that angle to it, my bad.cincybearcat said:
Ah in this case they didn't ask for bail and they were released pending trial...or whatever. My opinion is if you attack a police officer always set bail...as it is allowed within the law.Merkin Baller said:
I may have misunderstood your comment... I thought you were saying there should be no bail in a case of someone attacking a police officer. If I understood it correctly, then my point stands... I don't agree that people should be held indefinitely based on the word alone of a police officer that he was attacked. I don't think ACAB, but I'm also not naive enough to think cops never lie.cincybearcat said:
I am a bit confused by your statement. If you are saying don't just immediately deport....I can see that, I disagree, but I understand. If you are saying setting bail for people that attack cops isn't ok....I wouldn't agree. It's the bare minimum that can be done.Merkin Baller said:
I’m speaking about a general policy which is what I inferred from Cincy’s comment.tempo_n_groove said:
Are you speaking from the hip here? There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...Merkin Baller said:
No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.
I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.I’m all for deporting criminal immigrants, but as I understand it, the 6th amendment applies to non-citizens as well as citizens, so there still has to be due process.
In this particular case, if there's clear cut evidence of the released men having attacked the police, then the DA's decision to grant bail defies logic.
Regarding immediate deportation without due process, that would be unconstitutional. People who are here legally are entitled to 6th amendment rights.
Yeah... that's f'ed up.0 -
Nobody wants to talk about how the republicans have a pretty easy way of helping this problem, but are choosing not to, for political reasons?
We're all on the same page about them being disingenuous about literally every issue that can possible existincluding the one they claim to care most about?www.myspace.com0 -
It's truly remarkable how conservative voters are being played on this issue and they just don't care.The Juggler said:Nobody wants to talk about how the republicans have a pretty easy way of helping this problem, but are choosing not to, for political reasons?
We're all on the same page about them being disingenuous about literally every issue that can possible existincluding the one they claim to care most about?
Trump & the GOP had 2 years to get things done and couldn't,. But sure... somehow the next time will be different.
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No kidding. It's a dereliction of duty. Bunch of voters pretending to hate the government...hate politics....100% ok with their elected officials doing nothing when they have a chance at helping an issue they say is a priority....because it may serve a political purpose in a freakin year????Merkin Baller said:
It's truly remarkable how conservative voters are being played on this issue and they just don't care.The Juggler said:Nobody wants to talk about how the republicans have a pretty easy way of helping this problem, but are choosing not to, for political reasons?
We're all on the same page about them being disingenuous about literally every issue that can possible existincluding the one they claim to care most about?
Trump & the GOP had 2 years to get things done and couldn't,. But sure... somehow the next time will be different.
And people buy the bullshit when someone purposely not doing their job to blame someone else for a problem. These same fuckers go on facebook or sit at the bar complaining to their friends about their co-workers and bosses that behave that way. So frustrating.hippiemom = goodness0 -
And letting an undocumented immigrant go without bail who can just disappear is the same as giving him a free pass. They will never show up to court and they knew it, and decided to let them go anyway. They they try to claim they take violence against police seriously in a press release. They clearly don't.cincybearcat said:
Ah in this case they didn't ask for bail and they were released pending trial...or whatever. My opinion is if you attack a police officer always set bail...as it is allowed within the law.Merkin Baller said:
I may have misunderstood your comment... I thought you were saying there should be no bail in a case of someone attacking a police officer. If I understood it correctly, then my point stands... I don't agree that people should be held indefinitely based on the word alone of a police officer that he was attacked. I don't think ACAB, but I'm also not naive enough to think cops never lie.cincybearcat said:
I am a bit confused by your statement. If you are saying don't just immediately deport....I can see that, I disagree, but I understand. If you are saying setting bail for people that attack cops isn't ok....I wouldn't agree. It's the bare minimum that can be done.Merkin Baller said:
I’m speaking about a general policy which is what I inferred from Cincy’s comment.tempo_n_groove said:
Are you speaking from the hip here? There is film footage of 12 people kicking and punching at the cops...Merkin Baller said:
No bail for attacking a police officer is great until a police officer lies about being attacked.cincybearcat said:
Isolated yes. The fact that they weren't back in their home country within 24 hours is ridiculous...let alone no bail for attacking a police officer.tempo_n_groove said:I was going to post that and decided not to. It's a bad look for sure.
Thankfully this is an isolated incident. If more things like this happen the cops will make it hell for them.
I take back what I said and like Cincy, send em back.I’m all for deporting criminal immigrants, but as I understand it, the 6th amendment applies to non-citizens as well as citizens, so there still has to be due process.
In this particular case, if there's clear cut evidence of the released men having attacked the police, then the DA's decision to grant bail defies logic.
Regarding immediate deportation without due process, that would be unconstitutional. People who are here legally are entitled to 6th amendment rights.0 -
The democrats must actively take control of this issue this year. We have absolute 100% proof that these fuckers are not interested in solving the problem at this point.cincybearcat said:
No kidding. It's a dereliction of duty. Bunch of voters pretending to hate the government...hate politics....100% ok with their elected officials doing nothing when they have a chance at helping an issue they say is a priority....because it may serve a political purpose in a freakin year????Merkin Baller said:
It's truly remarkable how conservative voters are being played on this issue and they just don't care.The Juggler said:Nobody wants to talk about how the republicans have a pretty easy way of helping this problem, but are choosing not to, for political reasons?
We're all on the same page about them being disingenuous about literally every issue that can possible existincluding the one they claim to care most about?
Trump & the GOP had 2 years to get things done and couldn't,. But sure... somehow the next time will be different.
And people buy the bullshit when someone purposely not doing their job to blame someone else for a problem. These same fuckers go on facebook or sit at the bar complaining to their friends about their co-workers and bosses that behave that way. So frustrating.
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