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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,480
    sounds fantastic to me. just hoping for a tour date near me. 
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,367
    Wow the commonfolk are literally on the outside...
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,367
    I had the volume up because I had a youtube mute fail then it was so bassy my little speaker started moving across my desk. Like the answering machine in Office Space. "I've been CHEATING on you!!!"
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    karl_chihiro said:
    Easy pass on this one.
    Oh wait!
    lol
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  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    edited February 2024
    The clips have my interest piqued at the very least; im excited to hear the full tracks in superior audio quality with my gear. But back to the process here. It just feels wrong to hold a listening party, knowing that things (clips, descriptions, etc) will leak out, and then have a protracted wait for this thing.  The album is clearly 100% completely ready to go, so why not just let us have it now? It DOES NOT need to coincide with tour dates. There is no association.  We will all go to the shows we can based on other factors, and album release timing has absolutely nothing to do with it.  I've read that Jeff said they "sat on this album", which also is kind of a head scratcher. Why? If they're as proud of this record as early reports indicate, I would think they'd be dying for us to hear it.
  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,019
    @Johnny Abruzzo LOL
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,612
    edited February 2024
    dwjmu84 said:
    The clips have my interest piqued at the very least; im excited to hear the full tracks in superior audio quality with my gear. But back to the process here. It just feels wrong to hold a listening party, knowing that things (clips, descriptions, etc) will leak out, and then have a protracted wait for this thing.  The album is clearly 100% completely ready to go, so why not just let us have it now? It DOES NOT need to coincide with tour dates. There is no association.  We will all go to the shows we can based on other factors, and album release timing has absolutely nothing to do with it.  I've read that Jeff said they "sat on this album", which also is kind of a head scratcher. Why? If they're as proud of this record as early reports indicate, I would think they'd be dying for us to hear it.
    It’s probably tied to touring. They probably feel like dropping the record and then taking it out on the road right after is a better experience than putting it out and not doing anything for 6 months. A new record could help sell tickets (not that this is a big problem for them) and a new tour helps sells albums. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,480
    dwjmu84 said:
    The clips have my interest piqued at the very least; im excited to hear the full tracks in superior audio quality with my gear. But back to the process here. It just feels wrong to hold a listening party, knowing that things (clips, descriptions, etc) will leak out, and then have a protracted wait for this thing.  The album is clearly 100% completely ready to go, so why not just let us have it now? It DOES NOT need to coincide with tour dates. There is no association.  We will all go to the shows we can based on other factors, and album release timing has absolutely nothing to do with it.  I've read that Jeff said they "sat on this album", which also is kind of a head scratcher. Why? If they're as proud of this record as early reports indicate, I would think they'd be dying for us to hear it.
    of course album releases coincide with tours. they literally fund each other.  
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,612
    I mean sure they don’t NEED to. But Pearl Jam feels other wise. It’s not a big deal. 
  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,368
    Pap said:
    pjl44 said: B. An attendee immediately took to YouTube and gave us the lowdown 
    PEARL JAM dark matter clips from outside Troubadour new album listening party 2024 (youtube.com)
    Around :35 sounds like it might be wreckage 
  • eeriepadave
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  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    The clips have my interest piqued at the very least; im excited to hear the full tracks in superior audio quality with my gear. But back to the process here. It just feels wrong to hold a listening party, knowing that things (clips, descriptions, etc) will leak out, and then have a protracted wait for this thing.  The album is clearly 100% completely ready to go, so why not just let us have it now? It DOES NOT need to coincide with tour dates. There is no association.  We will all go to the shows we can based on other factors, and album release timing has absolutely nothing to do with it.  I've read that Jeff said they "sat on this album", which also is kind of a head scratcher. Why? If they're as proud of this record as early reports indicate, I would think they'd be dying for us to hear it.
    of course album releases coincide with tours. they literally fund each other.  
    Wait…what? 

    Artists make next to zero on record sales and streams these days. It’s literally a tiny fraction of total revenue. 

    Touring is almost 100% where cash flows originate, and they have cash on hand to get the ball rolling for shows and finance the tour. 

    Also, nobody is talking about a 6 month gap. First shows we know of occur in May right?

    If the album were to be released, let’s say tomorrow, that’s 3 months and change in between. They could spend the time promoting, podcasting, etc. I don’t really think that’s all necessarily (my opinion) bc we die hards will attend the shows regardless. Take the smaller runs they’ve done in the last couple years (I hit dates on both “tours”). There hadn’t been an album since Gig. It does not matter. With fewer dates than the early days, all of their shows will see 100% sellouts no matter what. Did you see how many 10c members whiffed on the presales??? Demand is huge and they have a gtd cash cow with their live efforts. The records are a bonus. 
  • drfox
    drfox Posts: 1,481
    dwjmu84 said:
    The clips have my interest piqued at the very least; im excited to hear the full tracks in superior audio quality with my gear. But back to the process here. It just feels wrong to hold a listening party, knowing that things (clips, descriptions, etc) will leak out, and then have a protracted wait for this thing.  The album is clearly 100% completely ready to go, so why not just let us have it now? It DOES NOT need to coincide with tour dates. There is no association.  We will all go to the shows we can based on other factors, and album release timing has absolutely nothing to do with it.  I've read that Jeff said they "sat on this album", which also is kind of a head scratcher. Why? If they're as proud of this record as early reports indicate, I would think they'd be dying for us to hear it.
    It’s really common for bands to record an album and then release it a year later. Eg QOTSA In Times New Roman was initially recorded around 2021 but finished off in late 2022 and released then in June 2023
  • Marieow
    Marieow San Francisco Posts: 100
    Tim Simmons said:

    It’s probably tied to touring. They probably feel like dropping the record and then taking it out on the road right after is a better experience than putting it out and not doing anything for 6 months. A new record could help sell tickets (not that this is a big problem for them) and a new tour helps sells albums. 
    I hope they drop it sooner so I can really get to know it. We had almost 2 years to get to know Gigaton before they were allowed to perform it. That was enough time for me to love it. Obviously, not everyone else.  I noticed a bathroom break exodus during the shows last year when any Gigaton song came on. Now, I don't blame them, when you gotta go, you gotta go.

    I wonder if they would ever do a CD giveaway with ticket purchase (for regular public sale tickets, non 10c) so the casual fan will give the new stuff a chance. 
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  • deb1211
    deb1211 Posts: 2,049
    I would love the new album.out asap so I can be fully ready to sing new songs by tour 😉
  • Ten Backspaced Riot Actors
    Ten Backspaced Riot Actors Posts: 436
    I am happy to be geeking out over song impressions and bad quality clips.  I enjoy the foreplay!  Reminds me of a time when information wasn’t so easily accessible.  Anyways, the announcement will come soon, I’m sure.  I just want to enjoy the mystery of a new album.  Like others I can’t believe we are still getting new music after so many years! 
  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    I just like the idea of having a few months (maybe even longer) for the tracks to marinade with me a bit.  It also gives you time to start associating memories with them, which to me is one of the coolest parts about this art form.  Then, seeing them play those tracks live a BIT after that time period in your life has come and gone - there's just something about it that transcends normal, every day human experience.

    Plus, from a practical stand point.  If this new stuff is as good as has been advertised, why not give it more time to make its way through the masses. We all know MOST people we say "oh, another PJ album. those guys are still around?". Many will have a very cynical view, but with enough time, maybe they'll take to these songs and then decide to go to shows. From a perspective of maximizing revenue, I don't see why you wouldn't want a good few months between album and tour (though I agree that TOO much time can cause complacency and sort of "the window has passed" phenomenon).
  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 893
    edited February 2024
    The tour is certainly a factor for release timing but I think vinyl is a bigger factor. I don’t see them ever doing a surprise digital release because they want the analog people to be able to hear it the same day.
  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    kmcmanus said:
    The tour is certainly a factor for release timing but I think vinyl is a bigger factor. I don’t see them ever doing a surprise digital release because they want the analog people to be able to hear it the same day.
    it could be a factor (the tour) to them, but it doesn't need to be. that's an old school way of thinking in my view. and, I'll buy the vinyl 3 months later when it's available.  I don't need it THE DAY the record is "released".  but, yes, we all understand their love for it.  I don't disagree that this is likely the way it will play out, im just saying I wish they'd evolve a bit on this front and try something new.  That said, I respect the commitment to doing things their way and they've earned that right of course. the first release I was "around" for was no code, and they've certainly been consistent since.  I suppose as long as the tracks are awesome, it will all iron out the same in the end.
  • Kearn5y
    Kearn5y Ireland Posts: 3,035
    Only listened to half of the recording. Some good sounds in there but would rather wait for the album to be released to hear anymore. 
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