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Biden
i have never seen someone lose 83 million bucks simply because they cannot shut their fucking trap. its really funny honestly.Go Beavers said:
Being an abusive angry adolescent trapped in an old man’s body just got even more expensive. $83 million. WowThe Juggler said:This no impulse control loser just cost himself tens of millions of dollars....and someone here is more concerned about Biden's mental capacity? lol"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Biden
how long will it be before he defames her again?Halifax2TheMax said:Full “Truth” Social post as reported by CNN:
"Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts, and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party. Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon. They have taken away all First Amendment Rights. THIS IS NOT AMERICA!"
dude is a dumbass that is unable to learn a lesson. no way does he deserve to be in the white house again."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Biden
evangelical republicans?mrussel1 said:
Think of them as Southern Conservatives. Now what would they be called today....hmm...Ledbetterman10 said:
Of course Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive as a republican. The democrats were too busy enacting Jim Crow laws at the time.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
You said he's not a progressive liberal. He himself disagrees....The Juggler said:
For starters, it's probably all of the people on the far left who are condemning him for supporting Israel, blaming him for not somehow making college free for everyone, and mad that police departments remain funded.Ledbetterman10 said:
Well then what makes someone a "progressive liberal"? You said Biden isn't one and obviously you like Biden so I'm guessing you would consider being a "progressive liberal" to be bad. So what is a progressive liberal to you?The Juggler said:Supporting the LGBTQ community now makes you a progressive liberal? Shouldn't that make someone compassionate?
The Supreme Court ruled against Texas. Honoring the Supreme Court's decision makes him a progressive liberal? Abbot seems like he wants to break the law and defy the Supreme Court....is that now considered conservative to you?
This is looney tune stuff, Ledbetter.
And no, Abbot shouldn't break the law. I'm saying that the DOJ bringing this case in the first place shows Biden's desire for more illegal immigrants to come in, and I would consider that a "progressive liberal" thing to do.
The lgbtq stuff? Come on man. Times change. Reasonable people have compassion. The culture war mentality of the far right maga's will be behind the times on this just like they have been for most social issues in the past.
The Supreme Court sided with the DOJ. The right leaning Supreme Court. By your logic, they are progressive liberals now too. This is Bizzaro World.
Joe Biden Says He'd Be The 'Most Progressive' President in History, Tells Bernie Sanders to 'Disown' Misogynistic Supporters (newsweek.com)
And as for the bolded part, and one of the others said something similar above, the Supreme Court's decision was that Texas can't stop federal agents from doing their job. That's not an endorsement of Biden's border policies. That's not the Court saying "Biden is right. There should be illegal immigrants coming by the thousands." That's the Court ruling that as president, Biden has the authority to make federal agents take razor wire off of fences, and by law, that supersedes what the Abbot wants.Teddy Roosevelt, a PROGRESSIVE, was a REPUBLICAN. Went after the robber barons.Nixon created the EPA, oversaw and signed the Clean Water Act. Clean Air Act and other liberal commie budiness hating legislation..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Biden
Teh issue is you are repeating MAGA talking points. The things you are saying don't come out of the mouth of Ben Sasse, Mitt Romney, or even Mitch.Ledbetterman10 said:
Like me being called MAGA despite not voting for Trump in either election. But here in the PJ forum echo chamber, that label gets attached to anyone with a dissenting viewpoint, making the label just a pejorative without actual meaning.Go Beavers said:
There’s progressives, and there’s progressives as defined by right wing media that’s bounced around daily in the social media echo chamber, which is what you’re describing. It’s the same schtick where a label gets attached to anything the right doesn’t like until the label is just a pejorative without actual meaning.Ledbetterman10 said:
Present day progressivism is to defund police, allow hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come and go as they please, you must believe that if a man calls himself a woman, then he really is a woman, and all white people are racist oppressors. That’s a far cry the Roosevelt-era progressivism.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Of course Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive as a republican. The democrats were too busy enacting Jim Crow laws at the time.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
You said he's not a progressive liberal. He himself disagrees....The Juggler said:
For starters, it's probably all of the people on the far left who are condemning him for supporting Israel, blaming him for not somehow making college free for everyone, and mad that police departments remain funded.Ledbetterman10 said:
Well then what makes someone a "progressive liberal"? You said Biden isn't one and obviously you like Biden so I'm guessing you would consider being a "progressive liberal" to be bad. So what is a progressive liberal to you?The Juggler said:Supporting the LGBTQ community now makes you a progressive liberal? Shouldn't that make someone compassionate?
The Supreme Court ruled against Texas. Honoring the Supreme Court's decision makes him a progressive liberal? Abbot seems like he wants to break the law and defy the Supreme Court....is that now considered conservative to you?
This is looney tune stuff, Ledbetter.
And no, Abbot shouldn't break the law. I'm saying that the DOJ bringing this case in the first place shows Biden's desire for more illegal immigrants to come in, and I would consider that a "progressive liberal" thing to do.
The lgbtq stuff? Come on man. Times change. Reasonable people have compassion. The culture war mentality of the far right maga's will be behind the times on this just like they have been for most social issues in the past.
The Supreme Court sided with the DOJ. The right leaning Supreme Court. By your logic, they are progressive liberals now too. This is Bizzaro World.
Joe Biden Says He'd Be The 'Most Progressive' President in History, Tells Bernie Sanders to 'Disown' Misogynistic Supporters (newsweek.com)
And as for the bolded part, and one of the others said something similar above, the Supreme Court's decision was that Texas can't stop federal agents from doing their job. That's not an endorsement of Biden's border policies. That's not the Court saying "Biden is right. There should be illegal immigrants coming by the thousands." That's the Court ruling that as president, Biden has the authority to make federal agents take razor wire off of fences, and by law, that supersedes what the Abbot wants.Teddy Roosevelt, a PROGRESSIVE, was a REPUBLICAN. Went after the robber barons.Nixon created the EPA, oversaw and signed the Clean Water Act. Clean Air Act and other liberal commie budiness hating legislation...
sooo progressivism is ok if its a gop thing. got it.Some “progressive” things are the same as they were in normal times though. I don’t take any issue with Biden or the Dems’ climate agenda, which would be in the same ballpark as the Nixon stuff you listed.So how would you describe someone that believes in the stuff I listed above? We’ll use AOC as an example because she obviously believes in all of it. If she a progressive? Or is she “a progressive as defined by right wing media that’s bounced around daily in the social media echo chamber”?
To the bolded, what you outlined is a caricature of a Progressive, but certainly some of them believe that. The problem is that Biden DOES NOT. So how can he be a Progressive? You keep ignoring that question from me. You defined it which is great, but Biden has done nothing to advance "defund the police", "unfettered immigration" or any of your trans bullshit scare mongering.0 -
I was thinking labels that have a clear, historical meaning, like Socialist, where the meaning has been warped in order to apply it to everything the right doesn’t like in order to make it sound more menacing and threatening. MAGA is much more recent and used to describe a group of people that fit into a cultural phenomena.Ledbetterman10 said:
Like me being called MAGA despite not voting for Trump in either election. But here in the PJ forum echo chamber, that label gets attached to anyone with a dissenting viewpoint, making the label just a pejorative without actual meaning.Go Beavers said:
There’s progressives, and there’s progressives as defined by right wing media that’s bounced around daily in the social media echo chamber, which is what you’re describing. It’s the same schtick where a label gets attached to anything the right doesn’t like until the label is just a pejorative without actual meaning.Ledbetterman10 said:
Present day progressivism is to defund police, allow hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come and go as they please, you must believe that if a man calls himself a woman, then he really is a woman, and all white people are racist oppressors. That’s a far cry the Roosevelt-era progressivism.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Of course Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive as a republican. The democrats were too busy enacting Jim Crow laws at the time.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
You said he's not a progressive liberal. He himself disagrees....The Juggler said:
For starters, it's probably all of the people on the far left who are condemning him for supporting Israel, blaming him for not somehow making college free for everyone, and mad that police departments remain funded.Ledbetterman10 said:
Well then what makes someone a "progressive liberal"? You said Biden isn't one and obviously you like Biden so I'm guessing you would consider being a "progressive liberal" to be bad. So what is a progressive liberal to you?The Juggler said:Supporting the LGBTQ community now makes you a progressive liberal? Shouldn't that make someone compassionate?
The Supreme Court ruled against Texas. Honoring the Supreme Court's decision makes him a progressive liberal? Abbot seems like he wants to break the law and defy the Supreme Court....is that now considered conservative to you?
This is looney tune stuff, Ledbetter.
And no, Abbot shouldn't break the law. I'm saying that the DOJ bringing this case in the first place shows Biden's desire for more illegal immigrants to come in, and I would consider that a "progressive liberal" thing to do.
The lgbtq stuff? Come on man. Times change. Reasonable people have compassion. The culture war mentality of the far right maga's will be behind the times on this just like they have been for most social issues in the past.
The Supreme Court sided with the DOJ. The right leaning Supreme Court. By your logic, they are progressive liberals now too. This is Bizzaro World.
Joe Biden Says He'd Be The 'Most Progressive' President in History, Tells Bernie Sanders to 'Disown' Misogynistic Supporters (newsweek.com)
And as for the bolded part, and one of the others said something similar above, the Supreme Court's decision was that Texas can't stop federal agents from doing their job. That's not an endorsement of Biden's border policies. That's not the Court saying "Biden is right. There should be illegal immigrants coming by the thousands." That's the Court ruling that as president, Biden has the authority to make federal agents take razor wire off of fences, and by law, that supersedes what the Abbot wants.Teddy Roosevelt, a PROGRESSIVE, was a REPUBLICAN. Went after the robber barons.Nixon created the EPA, oversaw and signed the Clean Water Act. Clean Air Act and other liberal commie budiness hating legislation...
sooo progressivism is ok if its a gop thing. got it.Some “progressive” things are the same as they were in normal times though. I don’t take any issue with Biden or the Dems’ climate agenda, which would be in the same ballpark as the Nixon stuff you listed.So how would you describe someone that believes in the stuff I listed above? We’ll use AOC as an example because she obviously believes in all of it. If she a progressive? Or is she “a progressive as defined by right wing media that’s bounced around daily in the social media echo chamber”?AOC believes in some progressive policies. Call her whatever you want. Should I point out the bizarre infatuation republicans have with her, or save that for later?0 -
They’d all sleep with her if they could.Go Beavers said:
I was thinking labels that have a clear, historical meaning, like Socialist, where the meaning has been warped in order to apply it to everything the right doesn’t like in order to make it sound more menacing and threatening. MAGA is much more recent and used to describe a group of people that fit into a cultural phenomena.Ledbetterman10 said:
Like me being called MAGA despite not voting for Trump in either election. But here in the PJ forum echo chamber, that label gets attached to anyone with a dissenting viewpoint, making the label just a pejorative without actual meaning.Go Beavers said:
There’s progressives, and there’s progressives as defined by right wing media that’s bounced around daily in the social media echo chamber, which is what you’re describing. It’s the same schtick where a label gets attached to anything the right doesn’t like until the label is just a pejorative without actual meaning.Ledbetterman10 said:
Present day progressivism is to defund police, allow hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come and go as they please, you must believe that if a man calls himself a woman, then he really is a woman, and all white people are racist oppressors. That’s a far cry the Roosevelt-era progressivism.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Of course Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive as a republican. The democrats were too busy enacting Jim Crow laws at the time.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
You said he's not a progressive liberal. He himself disagrees....The Juggler said:
For starters, it's probably all of the people on the far left who are condemning him for supporting Israel, blaming him for not somehow making college free for everyone, and mad that police departments remain funded.Ledbetterman10 said:
Well then what makes someone a "progressive liberal"? You said Biden isn't one and obviously you like Biden so I'm guessing you would consider being a "progressive liberal" to be bad. So what is a progressive liberal to you?The Juggler said:Supporting the LGBTQ community now makes you a progressive liberal? Shouldn't that make someone compassionate?
The Supreme Court ruled against Texas. Honoring the Supreme Court's decision makes him a progressive liberal? Abbot seems like he wants to break the law and defy the Supreme Court....is that now considered conservative to you?
This is looney tune stuff, Ledbetter.
And no, Abbot shouldn't break the law. I'm saying that the DOJ bringing this case in the first place shows Biden's desire for more illegal immigrants to come in, and I would consider that a "progressive liberal" thing to do.
The lgbtq stuff? Come on man. Times change. Reasonable people have compassion. The culture war mentality of the far right maga's will be behind the times on this just like they have been for most social issues in the past.
The Supreme Court sided with the DOJ. The right leaning Supreme Court. By your logic, they are progressive liberals now too. This is Bizzaro World.
Joe Biden Says He'd Be The 'Most Progressive' President in History, Tells Bernie Sanders to 'Disown' Misogynistic Supporters (newsweek.com)
And as for the bolded part, and one of the others said something similar above, the Supreme Court's decision was that Texas can't stop federal agents from doing their job. That's not an endorsement of Biden's border policies. That's not the Court saying "Biden is right. There should be illegal immigrants coming by the thousands." That's the Court ruling that as president, Biden has the authority to make federal agents take razor wire off of fences, and by law, that supersedes what the Abbot wants.Teddy Roosevelt, a PROGRESSIVE, was a REPUBLICAN. Went after the robber barons.Nixon created the EPA, oversaw and signed the Clean Water Act. Clean Air Act and other liberal commie budiness hating legislation...
sooo progressivism is ok if its a gop thing. got it.Some “progressive” things are the same as they were in normal times though. I don’t take any issue with Biden or the Dems’ climate agenda, which would be in the same ballpark as the Nixon stuff you listed.So how would you describe someone that believes in the stuff I listed above? We’ll use AOC as an example because she obviously believes in all of it. If she a progressive? Or is she “a progressive as defined by right wing media that’s bounced around daily in the social media echo chamber”?AOC believes in some progressive policies. Call her whatever you want. Should I point out the bizarre infatuation republicans have with her, or save that for later?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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And sounds like “defund the police” to me. The disconnect between fantasy and reality really is astounding.
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Biden
I'd suggest you start getting your news from Reuters or AP. Whatever you're reading or watching now is distorting reality and pulling you in to the cult.Ledbetterman10 said:
Like me being called MAGA despite not voting for Trump in either election. But here in the PJ forum echo chamber, that label gets attached to anyone with a dissenting viewpoint, making the label just a pejorative without actual meaning.Go Beavers said:
There’s progressives, and there’s progressives as defined by right wing media that’s bounced around daily in the social media echo chamber, which is what you’re describing. It’s the same schtick where a label gets attached to anything the right doesn’t like until the label is just a pejorative without actual meaning.Ledbetterman10 said:
Present day progressivism is to defund police, allow hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come and go as they please, you must believe that if a man calls himself a woman, then he really is a woman, and all white people are racist oppressors. That’s a far cry the Roosevelt-era progressivism.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Of course Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive as a republican. The democrats were too busy enacting Jim Crow laws at the time.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
You said he's not a progressive liberal. He himself disagrees....The Juggler said:
For starters, it's probably all of the people on the far left who are condemning him for supporting Israel, blaming him for not somehow making college free for everyone, and mad that police departments remain funded.Ledbetterman10 said:
Well then what makes someone a "progressive liberal"? You said Biden isn't one and obviously you like Biden so I'm guessing you would consider being a "progressive liberal" to be bad. So what is a progressive liberal to you?The Juggler said:Supporting the LGBTQ community now makes you a progressive liberal? Shouldn't that make someone compassionate?
The Supreme Court ruled against Texas. Honoring the Supreme Court's decision makes him a progressive liberal? Abbot seems like he wants to break the law and defy the Supreme Court....is that now considered conservative to you?
This is looney tune stuff, Ledbetter.
And no, Abbot shouldn't break the law. I'm saying that the DOJ bringing this case in the first place shows Biden's desire for more illegal immigrants to come in, and I would consider that a "progressive liberal" thing to do.
The lgbtq stuff? Come on man. Times change. Reasonable people have compassion. The culture war mentality of the far right maga's will be behind the times on this just like they have been for most social issues in the past.
The Supreme Court sided with the DOJ. The right leaning Supreme Court. By your logic, they are progressive liberals now too. This is Bizzaro World.
Joe Biden Says He'd Be The 'Most Progressive' President in History, Tells Bernie Sanders to 'Disown' Misogynistic Supporters (newsweek.com)
And as for the bolded part, and one of the others said something similar above, the Supreme Court's decision was that Texas can't stop federal agents from doing their job. That's not an endorsement of Biden's border policies. That's not the Court saying "Biden is right. There should be illegal immigrants coming by the thousands." That's the Court ruling that as president, Biden has the authority to make federal agents take razor wire off of fences, and by law, that supersedes what the Abbot wants.Teddy Roosevelt, a PROGRESSIVE, was a REPUBLICAN. Went after the robber barons.Nixon created the EPA, oversaw and signed the Clean Water Act. Clean Air Act and other liberal commie budiness hating legislation...
sooo progressivism is ok if its a gop thing. got it.Some “progressive” things are the same as they were in normal times though. I don’t take any issue with Biden or the Dems’ climate agenda, which would be in the same ballpark as the Nixon stuff you listed.So how would you describe someone that believes in the stuff I listed above? We’ll use AOC as an example because she obviously believes in all of it. If she a progressive? Or is she “a progressive as defined by right wing media that’s bounced around daily in the social media echo chamber”?It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Biden
He, repeatedly, keeps ignoring this very important fact.mrussel1 said:
So true. So why hasn't Biden done one of those things? He's a progressive according to you? Why does he support Israel in the war and not the Palestinians like some on the far left?Ledbetterman10 said:
Present day progressivism is to defund police, allow hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come and go as they please, you must believe that if a man calls himself a woman, then he really is a woman, and all white people are racist oppressors. That’s a far cry the Roosevelt-era progressivism.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
Of course Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive as a republican. The democrats were too busy enacting Jim Crow laws at the time.mickeyrat said:Ledbetterman10 said:
You said he's not a progressive liberal. He himself disagrees....The Juggler said:
For starters, it's probably all of the people on the far left who are condemning him for supporting Israel, blaming him for not somehow making college free for everyone, and mad that police departments remain funded.Ledbetterman10 said:
Well then what makes someone a "progressive liberal"? You said Biden isn't one and obviously you like Biden so I'm guessing you would consider being a "progressive liberal" to be bad. So what is a progressive liberal to you?The Juggler said:Supporting the LGBTQ community now makes you a progressive liberal? Shouldn't that make someone compassionate?
The Supreme Court ruled against Texas. Honoring the Supreme Court's decision makes him a progressive liberal? Abbot seems like he wants to break the law and defy the Supreme Court....is that now considered conservative to you?
This is looney tune stuff, Ledbetter.
And no, Abbot shouldn't break the law. I'm saying that the DOJ bringing this case in the first place shows Biden's desire for more illegal immigrants to come in, and I would consider that a "progressive liberal" thing to do.
The lgbtq stuff? Come on man. Times change. Reasonable people have compassion. The culture war mentality of the far right maga's will be behind the times on this just like they have been for most social issues in the past.
The Supreme Court sided with the DOJ. The right leaning Supreme Court. By your logic, they are progressive liberals now too. This is Bizzaro World.
Joe Biden Says He'd Be The 'Most Progressive' President in History, Tells Bernie Sanders to 'Disown' Misogynistic Supporters (newsweek.com)
And as for the bolded part, and one of the others said something similar above, the Supreme Court's decision was that Texas can't stop federal agents from doing their job. That's not an endorsement of Biden's border policies. That's not the Court saying "Biden is right. There should be illegal immigrants coming by the thousands." That's the Court ruling that as president, Biden has the authority to make federal agents take razor wire off of fences, and by law, that supersedes what the Abbot wants.Teddy Roosevelt, a PROGRESSIVE, was a REPUBLICAN. Went after the robber barons.Nixon created the EPA, oversaw and signed the Clean Water Act. Clean Air Act and other liberal commie budiness hating legislation...
sooo progressivism is ok if its a gop thing. got it.Some “progressive” things are the same as they were in normal times though. I don’t take any issue with Biden or the Dems’ climate agenda, which would be in the same ballpark as the Nixon stuff you listed.
Later he said AOC believes in all of these things because she is a progressive...as if Biden and her see eye to eye on everything. Crazy talk.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
BidenI used AOC as an example because everyone agrees she’s a progressive that believes in all those things I listed. I asked one of the others to tell me if she’s a progressive, or a “progressive as defined by right wing media.” Biden doesn’t support defunding the police, and you all are passionate that he’s not a progressive, so I used her as an example. But the other three things; flooding the country with illegals, fear mongering about white supremacy, and promoting transgenderism…Biden supports all that.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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did you see the latest agreement on border security? kinda shoots holes in the narrative that biden "wants to flood the country with illegals". so i think you can stop using that narrative now.Ledbetterman10 said:I used AOC as an example because everyone agrees she’s a progressive that believes in all those things I listed. I asked one of the others to tell me if she’s a progressive, or a “progressive as defined by right wing media.” Biden doesn’t support defunding the police, and you all are passionate that he’s not a progressive, so I used her as an example. But the other three things; flooding the country with illegals, fear mongering about white supremacy, and promoting transgenderism…Biden supports all that."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Supporting lgbtq is compassionate not progressive.Ledbetterman10 said:I used AOC as an example because everyone agrees she’s a progressive that believes in all those things I listed. I asked one of the others to tell me if she’s a progressive, or a “progressive as defined by right wing media.” Biden doesn’t support defunding the police, and you all are passionate that he’s not a progressive, so I used her as an example. But the other three things; flooding the country with illegals, fear mongering about white supremacy, and promoting transgenderism…Biden supports all that.
Denouncing white supremacy is the right thing to do...it's not progressive.
Wanting to flood the country with illegals is not something he supports. He supports the bipartisan bill to help fix the issue. The guy he is running against is actively trying to destroy it.
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How does someone promote transgenderism? So someone can be made to be transgendered?Ledbetterman10 said:I used AOC as an example because everyone agrees she’s a progressive that believes in all those things I listed. I asked one of the others to tell me if she’s a progressive, or a “progressive as defined by right wing media.” Biden doesn’t support defunding the police, and you all are passionate that he’s not a progressive, so I used her as an example. But the other three things; flooding the country with illegals, fear mongering about white supremacy, and promoting transgenderism…Biden supports all that.0 -
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Fox isn't reporting about that deal and the fact that Trump is trying to spike the deal so he has a campaign issue. They keep their readers uninformed purposely.gimmesometruth27 said:
did you see the latest agreement on border security? kinda shoots holes in the narrative that biden "wants to flood the country with illegals". so i think you can stop using that narrative now.Ledbetterman10 said:I used AOC as an example because everyone agrees she’s a progressive that believes in all those things I listed. I asked one of the others to tell me if she’s a progressive, or a “progressive as defined by right wing media.” Biden doesn’t support defunding the police, and you all are passionate that he’s not a progressive, so I used her as an example. But the other three things; flooding the country with illegals, fear mongering about white supremacy, and promoting transgenderism…Biden supports all that.0 -
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yeah true. but biden has said if crossings get too high he will shut down the border. this would appease republicans if they actually paid attention to the real news. also if they were serious about addressing the issue, rather than blowing up the deal just to have a jingo for trump to run on.mrussel1 said:
Fox isn't reporting about that deal and the fact that Trump is trying to spike the deal so he has a campaign issue. They keep their readers uninformed purposely.gimmesometruth27 said:
did you see the latest agreement on border security? kinda shoots holes in the narrative that biden "wants to flood the country with illegals". so i think you can stop using that narrative now.Ledbetterman10 said:I used AOC as an example because everyone agrees she’s a progressive that believes in all those things I listed. I asked one of the others to tell me if she’s a progressive, or a “progressive as defined by right wing media.” Biden doesn’t support defunding the police, and you all are passionate that he’s not a progressive, so I used her as an example. But the other three things; flooding the country with illegals, fear mongering about white supremacy, and promoting transgenderism…Biden supports all that."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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I'm sure actual progressives are thrilled with Biden for saying that.gimmesometruth27 said:
yeah true. but biden has said if crossings get too high he will shut down the border. this would appease republicans if they actually paid attention to the real news. also if they were serious about addressing the issue, rather than blowing up the deal just to have a jingo for trump to run on.mrussel1 said:
Fox isn't reporting about that deal and the fact that Trump is trying to spike the deal so he has a campaign issue. They keep their readers uninformed purposely.gimmesometruth27 said:
did you see the latest agreement on border security? kinda shoots holes in the narrative that biden "wants to flood the country with illegals". so i think you can stop using that narrative now.Ledbetterman10 said:I used AOC as an example because everyone agrees she’s a progressive that believes in all those things I listed. I asked one of the others to tell me if she’s a progressive, or a “progressive as defined by right wing media.” Biden doesn’t support defunding the police, and you all are passionate that he’s not a progressive, so I used her as an example. But the other three things; flooding the country with illegals, fear mongering about white supremacy, and promoting transgenderism…Biden supports all that.www.myspace.com0 -
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thus proving that biden is a centrist, not a progressive.The Juggler said:
I'm sure actual progressives are thrilled with Biden for saying that.gimmesometruth27 said:
yeah true. but biden has said if crossings get too high he will shut down the border. this would appease republicans if they actually paid attention to the real news. also if they were serious about addressing the issue, rather than blowing up the deal just to have a jingo for trump to run on.mrussel1 said:
Fox isn't reporting about that deal and the fact that Trump is trying to spike the deal so he has a campaign issue. They keep their readers uninformed purposely.gimmesometruth27 said:
did you see the latest agreement on border security? kinda shoots holes in the narrative that biden "wants to flood the country with illegals". so i think you can stop using that narrative now.Ledbetterman10 said:I used AOC as an example because everyone agrees she’s a progressive that believes in all those things I listed. I asked one of the others to tell me if she’s a progressive, or a “progressive as defined by right wing media.” Biden doesn’t support defunding the police, and you all are passionate that he’s not a progressive, so I used her as an example. But the other three things; flooding the country with illegals, fear mongering about white supremacy, and promoting transgenderism…Biden supports all that.
seriously, this isn't that difficult.
i guess it is difficult to change words into smears when they do not know/understand the person they are trying to smear."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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People have been giving you reasonable responses refuting the vague nonsense you're spewing and you keep parroting bullshit right wing talking points and using out of context or truncated quotes. You're beyond reason. Good luck at the next insurrect...er, save America rally.Ledbetterman10 said:I used AOC as an example because everyone agrees she’s a progressive that believes in all those things I listed. I asked one of the others to tell me if she’s a progressive, or a “progressive as defined by right wing media.” Biden doesn’t support defunding the police, and you all are passionate that he’s not a progressive, so I used her as an example. But the other three things; flooding the country with illegals, fear mongering about white supremacy, and promoting transgenderism…Biden supports all that.
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