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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,385
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    Economy, foreign entanglements, major scandals within the Administration, gas at $7 a gallon, Brandon coming for your guns, gas stoves and children, a new, better and more locations Comet Pizza, etc. etc. A lot can happen between now and November.
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  • tbergs
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    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    Economy, foreign entanglements, major scandals within the Administration, gas at $7 a gallon, Brandon coming for your guns, gas stoves and children, a new, better and more locations Comet Pizza, etc. etc. A lot can happen between now and November.
    Emails, lots of emails.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    Economy, foreign entanglements, major scandals within the Administration, gas at $7 a gallon, Brandon coming for your guns, gas stoves and children, a new, better and more locations Comet Pizza, etc. etc. A lot can happen between now and November.
    Emails, lots of emails.
    X-ghazi.  Also don't forget that Hunter is going to roll on his father any minute now.  
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,217
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    republicans will tell you the economy is in the shitter. because that is what they have been told to say. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,385
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    Economy, foreign entanglements, major scandals within the Administration, gas at $7 a gallon, Brandon coming for your guns, gas stoves and children, a new, better and more locations Comet Pizza, etc. etc. A lot can happen between now and November.
    Emails, lots of emails.
    X-ghazi.  Also don't forget that Hunter is going to roll on his father any minute now.  
    Well, Brandon’s mob seems much better than POOTWH’s as Brandon’s book keeper didn’t give up the goods in the house impeachment investigation hearing today. Sigh, another witness not cooperating with Gym Jordan.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    Biden
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    The AMT makes the left sound even more pathetic
    weird. when was the last time a leftie beheaded their father and posted it on youtube? that's sounds more like a righty thing. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    republicans will tell you the economy is in the shitter. because that is what they have been told to say. 
    Trump said the other day that the economy was booming because it expected him to win.  

    But today the market corrected.  Now some Deep State liars will say that's because the Fed came out and signaled that a rate cut likely wouldn't come in March.  But I know it's because the new Quinnipiac poll had Biden leading.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    The MAGA meltdown on this is so great.  And it's all a part of the grift.  If the right wing "influencers" actually cared about winning an election vs monetizing anger, they would know not to upset the Swifties.  They are passionately defensive of Taylor.  She's going to endorse Biden.  She is going to push people to register to vote.  It will make a difference.  But the right wing going after Taylor is just going to make it that much worse for MAGA.  They are setting a trap that they will spring on themselves.  And it's going to be hilarious... again.   

    Good article from the Bulwark.  https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/maga-has-tds-taylor-derangement-syndrome


  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,948
    mrussel1 said:
    The MAGA meltdown on this is so great.  And it's all a part of the grift.  If the right wing "influencers" actually cared about winning an election vs monetizing anger, they would know not to upset the Swifties.  They are passionately defensive of Taylor.  She's going to endorse Biden.  She is going to push people to register to vote.  It will make a difference.  But the right wing going after Taylor is just going to make it that much worse for MAGA.  They are setting a trap that they will spring on themselves.  And it's going to be hilarious... again.   

    Good article from the Bulwark.  https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/maga-has-tds-taylor-derangement-syndrome



    As the photo shows she was around in 2020, and it took an enormous mail in vote for Biden to squeak out a win. It will be a gigunda task for Biden to get those 16 million additional votes he received over Hilary’s 2016 total, without an extensive record breaking mail in vote happening this time. he will likely need even more votes this election.
  • Lerxst1992
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    OnWis97 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    If RFK Jr would be Trump's running mate, they'd actually clean up.

    The only downsides are 1) he's kinda pro-environment (or at least used to be), 2) Trump probably wants a running mate he can sexually harass, and 3) RFK might not be willing to vow to never certify a presidential election for a democrat.

    #3 is the big one. The next VP will have to be willing to do what Pence would not.

    Would need to change the 22nd amendment for that to have an impact. Since Biden is current president, Harris oversees the electoral college certification in 2025. If trump wins this election, he would need to run for a third term (which is currently unconstitutional) to have his VP involved
    It's not about Trump but the party. RFK Jr (or whoever) would be doing this for Desantis (or whoever). This is going to be the #1 vetting point for Trump's running mate.

    You could be right, DeSantis and others may try, but imo they  don’t have the power trump does to get supporters to walk the plank to overturn an election. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    edited February 2024
    Biden
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The MAGA meltdown on this is so great.  And it's all a part of the grift.  If the right wing "influencers" actually cared about winning an election vs monetizing anger, they would know not to upset the Swifties.  They are passionately defensive of Taylor.  She's going to endorse Biden.  She is going to push people to register to vote.  It will make a difference.  But the right wing going after Taylor is just going to make it that much worse for MAGA.  They are setting a trap that they will spring on themselves.  And it's going to be hilarious... again.   

    Good article from the Bulwark.  https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/maga-has-tds-taylor-derangement-syndrome



    As the photo shows she was around in 2020, and it took an enormous mail in vote for Biden to squeak out a win. It will be a gigunda task for Biden to get those 16 million additional votes he received over Hilary’s 2016 total, without an extensive record breaking mail in vote happening this time. he will likely need even more votes this election.
    for some reason I feel like she's like 100 times bigger than she was even just 4 years ago. could just be my perception. and a LOT of her fans became voting age over that time. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,817
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The MAGA meltdown on this is so great.  And it's all a part of the grift.  If the right wing "influencers" actually cared about winning an election vs monetizing anger, they would know not to upset the Swifties.  They are passionately defensive of Taylor.  She's going to endorse Biden.  She is going to push people to register to vote.  It will make a difference.  But the right wing going after Taylor is just going to make it that much worse for MAGA.  They are setting a trap that they will spring on themselves.  And it's going to be hilarious... again.   

    Good article from the Bulwark.  https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/maga-has-tds-taylor-derangement-syndrome



    As the photo shows she was around in 2020, and it took an enormous mail in vote for Biden to squeak out a win. It will be a gigunda task for Biden to get those 16 million additional votes he received over Hilary’s 2016 total, without an extensive record breaking mail in vote happening this time. he will likely need even more votes this election.
    for some reason I feel like she's like 100 times bigger than she was even just 4 years ago. could just be my perception. and a LOT of her fans became voting age over that time. 
    Good point… I’m also not convinced trump’s going to get 74M votes like he did in 2020… I have no doubt he’ll get a lot, but I can’t help but think RvW alone is going to hurt. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,550
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The MAGA meltdown on this is so great.  And it's all a part of the grift.  If the right wing "influencers" actually cared about winning an election vs monetizing anger, they would know not to upset the Swifties.  They are passionately defensive of Taylor.  She's going to endorse Biden.  She is going to push people to register to vote.  It will make a difference.  But the right wing going after Taylor is just going to make it that much worse for MAGA.  They are setting a trap that they will spring on themselves.  And it's going to be hilarious... again.   

    Good article from the Bulwark.  https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/maga-has-tds-taylor-derangement-syndrome



    As the photo shows she was around in 2020, and it took an enormous mail in vote for Biden to squeak out a win. It will be a gigunda task for Biden to get those 16 million additional votes he received over Hilary’s 2016 total, without an extensive record breaking mail in vote happening this time. he will likely need even more votes this election.
    for some reason I feel like she's like 100 times bigger than she was even just 4 years ago. could just be my perception. and a LOT of her fans became voting age over that time. 

    good thing we aren't in pandemic shut down mode then I guess....
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  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The MAGA meltdown on this is so great.  And it's all a part of the grift.  If the right wing "influencers" actually cared about winning an election vs monetizing anger, they would know not to upset the Swifties.  They are passionately defensive of Taylor.  She's going to endorse Biden.  She is going to push people to register to vote.  It will make a difference.  But the right wing going after Taylor is just going to make it that much worse for MAGA.  They are setting a trap that they will spring on themselves.  And it's going to be hilarious... again.   

    Good article from the Bulwark.  https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/maga-has-tds-taylor-derangement-syndrome



    As the photo shows she was around in 2020, and it took an enormous mail in vote for Biden to squeak out a win. It will be a gigunda task for Biden to get those 16 million additional votes he received over Hilary’s 2016 total, without an extensive record breaking mail in vote happening this time. he will likely need even more votes this election.
    for some reason I feel like she's like 100 times bigger than she was even just 4 years ago. could just be my perception. and a LOT of her fans became voting age over that time. 
    She's absolutely bigger and more influential.  It's not even close.  Four years ago I never though about her once, even though my oldest daughter likes her.  Now she has exploded beyond the Gen Z/Millenials into truly the mainstream of American culture.  

    My daughter, who is 25, tells me that Taylor is the soundtrack of her life, like they went through things together.  It's not much different than how you and I probably think of PJ.  In the 90s we were young and angry, then we were mad about war, then we had kids, and now we are middle age and mortality is upon us.  Very similar.  
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited February 2024
    Biden
    She's definitely bigger. That huge concert tour took her from biggest pop star in the world to...I don't know...biggest pop star in the world squared.

    Of course Biden's only gotten older. He needs to get at least as many votes as last time and it needs to be because of votes against Trump....There are not 80 million people that really want to vote for Biden. Will there be 80 million that want to vote against Trump? I sometimes wish he'd step up and not run. Nobody would blame him. The question is whether any Dem would be able to beat Trump. Hard to say. I am sure some of the usual undecides are sick of all these ageing boomers and would love to vote for a fresh face. That said, the Dems don't have a very deep bench.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    OnWis97 said:
    She's definitely bigger. That huge concert tour took her from biggest pop star in the world to...I don't know...biggest pop star in the world squared.

    Of course Biden's only gotten older. He needs to get at least as many votes as last time and it needs to be because of votes against Trump....There are not 80 million people that really want to vote for Biden. Will there be 80 million that want to vote against Trump? I sometimes wish he'd step up and not run. Nobody would blame him. The question is whether any Dem would be able to beat Trump. Hard to say. I am sure some of the usual undecides are sick of all these ageing boomers and would love to vote for a fresh face. That said, the Dems don't have a very deep bench.
    The Dems have a deep bench. Now is not their time. Their time will come after January 20, 2025. Anyone stepping up now would be set up to fail. It’s too late now.
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  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    OnWis97 said:
    She's definitely bigger. That huge concert tour took her from biggest pop star in the world to...I don't know...biggest pop star in the world squared.

    Of course Biden's only gotten older. He needs to get at least as many votes as last time and it needs to be because of votes against Trump....There are not 80 million people that really want to vote for Biden. Will there be 80 million that want to vote against Trump? I sometimes wish he'd step up and not run. Nobody would blame him. The question is whether any Dem would be able to beat Trump. Hard to say. I am sure some of the usual undecides are sick of all these ageing boomers and would love to vote for a fresh face. That said, the Dems don't have a very deep bench.
    The Dems have a deep bench. Now is not their time. Their time will come after January 20, 2025. Anyone stepping up now would be set up to fail. It’s too late now.
    I agree.  Our governor bench is great.  You don't want to run against an incumbent and lose.  That is bad for you in the party and with the people.  Just ask Ron.  
  • Gern Blansten
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    Biden
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    republicans will tell you the economy is in the shitter. because that is what they have been told to say. 
    I met with one of my magat clients this morning....all went well until we were ending the meeting and he says "you might want to contact our senators and congressmen about this new border deal...they're going to let 5,000 illegals in each day" blah blah blah

    As I was driving into work this morning I heard Mike Johnson say that same exact line...

    And the GOP Senators support the bill. Fucking morons.
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    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    republicans will tell you the economy is in the shitter. because that is what they have been told to say. 
    I met with one of my magat clients this morning....all went well until we were ending the meeting and he says "you might want to contact our senators and congressmen about this new border deal...they're going to let 5,000 illegals in each day" blah blah blah

    As I was driving into work this morning I heard Mike Johnson say that same exact line...

    And the GOP Senators support the bill. Fucking morons.
    First, no one has seen the actual language.  If you listen to negotiators, then the border is shut if there are 5,000 "encounters" per day.  That doesn't mean entry.  And that is far fewer than today.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    republicans will tell you the economy is in the shitter. because that is what they have been told to say. 
    I met with one of my magat clients this morning....all went well until we were ending the meeting and he says "you might want to contact our senators and congressmen about this new border deal...they're going to let 5,000 illegals in each day" blah blah blah

    As I was driving into work this morning I heard Mike Johnson say that same exact line...

    And the GOP Senators support the bill. Fucking morons.
    First, no one has seen the actual language.  If you listen to negotiators, then the border is shut if there are 5,000 "encounters" per day.  That doesn't mean entry.  And that is far fewer than today.  
    Staff of the respective senators have seen the actual language and they’re writing the legislation. It’ll go down to the wire with horse trading for some deeply buried spending request or change to something, some of which may be buried and not “disclosed” unless you read the full text and catch it but the important thing is that the respective conferences are in agreement and will pass the bill. That the repubs in the house are willing to blow it all up for POOTWH speaks volumes and because they have gerrymandered their districts to be so red of red, they have no cover from a POOTWH primary candidate challenge from the right. It’s a lose-lose. Or brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy some might say.
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