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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,015
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    The AMT makes the left sound even more pathetic
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,020
    edited January 2024
    Biden
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    The AMT makes the left sound even more pathetic
    and yet, here you are again, lmao. maga posters make it sound exactly like twitter and the rest of the internet. the right wing echo chamber. no facts. no solutions. just anger.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,824
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    The AMT makes the left sound even more pathetic

    Too bad Biden wants to shut the border and trump wants illegal immigration to continue. Gonna be a good look for GOP in the general.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    The AMT makes the left sound even more pathetic
    Oh sure, we’re not as high class as Trump, Giuliani, Moms for Liberty, Kari Lake and the AZ GOP or the broke ass Michigan GOP.  The far right wing is so pathetic.  Sure Ds have some crazy people, but the lunatics run your party.  Sadly, you probably don’t even realize it.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,020
    Biden
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    The AMT makes the left sound even more pathetic

    Too bad Biden wants to shut the border and trump wants illegal immigration to continue. Gonna be a good look for GOP in the general.
    this seems so strange, doesn't it? 

    trump wants the issue because it is the only thing he can potentially run on. 
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    The AMT makes the left sound even more pathetic

    Too bad Biden wants to shut the border and trump wants illegal immigration to continue. Gonna be a good look for GOP in the general.
    this seems so strange, doesn't it? 

    trump wants the issue because it is the only thing he can potentially run on. 
    For sure.  The strong economy is taking away that talking point very quickly.  So now he has to hold on to the border.  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,328
    Biden
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754
    This invasion at the southern border is so crucial that it must be addressed before we provide anymore aide to Ukraine JUST KIDDING, it can wait until January 2025.

    also: Biden wants to flood the country with illegals. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,148
    Biden

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,328
    Biden

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    I think you're going to start seeing the polls gravitating toward Biden.  I also think that the polls are over-weighting the % of voters that are Republican.  We have seen that since 2020, where D's outperform the polling averages.  

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4439535-swing-state-voters-trump-convicted-2024/
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,148
    edited January 2024
    Biden
    tRump isn't getting good polling news today...another poll shows RFK taking more votes from tRump than Biden if he runs third party
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,539
    Gern Blansten said:
    tRump isn't getting good polling news today...another poll shows RFK taking more votes from tRump than Biden if he runs third party
    Makes sense since RFK jr is really playing on Covid resentments. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    If RFK Jr would be Trump's running mate, they'd actually clean up.

    The only downsides are 1) he's kinda pro-environment (or at least used to be), 2) Trump probably wants a running mate he can sexually harass, and 3) RFK might not be willing to vow to never certify a presidential election for a democrat.

    #3 is the big one. The next VP will have to be willing to do what Pence would not.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,824
    OnWis97 said:
    If RFK Jr would be Trump's running mate, they'd actually clean up.

    The only downsides are 1) he's kinda pro-environment (or at least used to be), 2) Trump probably wants a running mate he can sexually harass, and 3) RFK might not be willing to vow to never certify a presidential election for a democrat.

    #3 is the big one. The next VP will have to be willing to do what Pence would not.

    Would need to change the 22nd amendment for that to have an impact. Since Biden is current president, Harris oversees the electoral college certification in 2025. If trump wins this election, he would need to run for a third term (which is currently unconstitutional) to have his VP involved
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    tRump isn't getting good polling news today...another poll shows RFK taking more votes from tRump than Biden if he runs third party
    And right on time, another poll showing Biden with a bit of a surge.  Not every poll will show this, but I think it will be the trendline so long as the economy shows signs of health.  

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4440504-2024-election-biden-leads-trump-growing-gender-gap-quinnipiac-poll/
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,148
    edited January 2024
    Biden
    Nice...and Biden +12% among independents


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,015
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,148
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    November is eons away. I’m not getting excited. Too early. Way too early.
    If the economy stays decent it will be lights out for tRump. If he is even on the ballot.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    Lerxst1992 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    If RFK Jr would be Trump's running mate, they'd actually clean up.

    The only downsides are 1) he's kinda pro-environment (or at least used to be), 2) Trump probably wants a running mate he can sexually harass, and 3) RFK might not be willing to vow to never certify a presidential election for a democrat.

    #3 is the big one. The next VP will have to be willing to do what Pence would not.

    Would need to change the 22nd amendment for that to have an impact. Since Biden is current president, Harris oversees the electoral college certification in 2025. If trump wins this election, he would need to run for a third term (which is currently unconstitutional) to have his VP involved
    It's not about Trump but the party. RFK Jr (or whoever) would be doing this for Desantis (or whoever). This is going to be the #1 vetting point for Trump's running mate.
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