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  • Bunting10
    Bunting10 Massachusetts, USA Posts: 774
    Zen23 said:
    D-Rod said:
    PJNB said:
    23scidoo said:
    just_one said:
    23scidoo said:
    CopperTom said:
    JABK said:
    Could they play Open'er Festival in Poland?
    No shows east of Berlin.
    I can't understand that.. Tool at Krakow, Budapest..
    Different band with a total different tour
    Ok but why PJ doesn't do east of Berlin??.. make no sense to me..
    Why did PJ schedule 14 California shows in 2.5 years? These are the questions that keep me up at night. 
    I had a dream that a hamburger was eating me.   That’s what keeping me up at night. 
    Maybe that means they will be performing in Hamburg. We have a new rumor.
    Jinx!
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,797
    PJNB said:
    23scidoo said:
    just_one said:
    23scidoo said:
    CopperTom said:
    JABK said:
    Could they play Open'er Festival in Poland?
    No shows east of Berlin.
    I can't understand that.. Tool at Krakow, Budapest..
    Different band with a total different tour
    Ok but why PJ doesn't do east of Berlin??.. make no sense to me..
    Why did PJ schedule 14 California shows in 2.5 years? These are the questions that keep me up at night. 
    Cause we're awesome and lots of people live in state so lots of tickets to be sold, duh
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,020
    Seems like them only playing larger cities, 2 nights each, with a few lucky one night shows sprinkled in is the new norm 
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
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    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
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    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    Bunting10 said:
    Zen23 said:
    D-Rod said:
    PJNB said:
    23scidoo said:
    just_one said:
    23scidoo said:
    CopperTom said:
    JABK said:
    Could they play Open'er Festival in Poland?
    No shows east of Berlin.
    I can't understand that.. Tool at Krakow, Budapest..
    Different band with a total different tour
    Ok but why PJ doesn't do east of Berlin??.. make no sense to me..
    Why did PJ schedule 14 California shows in 2.5 years? These are the questions that keep me up at night. 
    I had a dream that a hamburger was eating me.   That’s what keeping me up at night. 
    Maybe that means they will be performing in Hamburg. We have a new rumor.
    Jinx!
    Great. Right down to the minute.
  • LBCeddie
    LBCeddie Posts: 112
    gotthebottle said:
    runstaples said:
    My 40th birthday is in May. It'll cost me a fortune coming all the way from NC, but seeing Pearl Jam in Seattle would be crossing off a life goal for me, haha. I think I gotta go for it. People at work already think I'm crazy for flying to St Paul and Denver over the last couple of years to see them. They just don't understand. 
    Crazy to go from NC to St Paul? That's nothing...lol Who are these losers you work with? What would they think of those of us who go overseas? 
    I've been to Australia 4 x for U2 and Sprngsteen tours and PJ will be 5th time! 
    This was your post, calling this posters coworkers losers because they don’t follow pearl jam. Then literally your next post said, “ my coworkers thought i was crazy flying to philly.”  So my question is, do you call your coworkers losers? And seeing you would leave the country for pearl jam shows as they stand in 2023 and beyond, I think you need your head examined.  Make sense now? 
  • seanclax
    seanclax Posts: 576
    Weston1283 said:
    Seems like them only playing larger cities, 2 nights each, with a few lucky one night shows sprinkled in is the new norm 
    Whatever they do I'll take it
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    D-Rod said:
    PJNB said:
    23scidoo said:
    just_one said:
    23scidoo said:
    CopperTom said:
    JABK said:
    Could they play Open'er Festival in Poland?
    No shows east of Berlin.
    I can't understand that.. Tool at Krakow, Budapest..
    Different band with a total different tour
    Ok but why PJ doesn't do east of Berlin??.. make no sense to me..
    Why did PJ schedule 14 California shows in 2.5 years? These are the questions that keep me up at night. 
    I had a dream that a hamburger was eating me.   That’s what keeping me up at night. 
    That is called guilt you cow murderer.
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,000
    LBCeddie said:
    gotthebottle said:
    runstaples said:
    My 40th birthday is in May. It'll cost me a fortune coming all the way from NC, but seeing Pearl Jam in Seattle would be crossing off a life goal for me, haha. I think I gotta go for it. People at work already think I'm crazy for flying to St Paul and Denver over the last couple of years to see them. They just don't understand. 
    Crazy to go from NC to St Paul? That's nothing...lol Who are these losers you work with? What would they think of those of us who go overseas? 
    I've been to Australia 4 x for U2 and Sprngsteen tours and PJ will be 5th time! 
    This was your post, calling this posters coworkers losers because they don’t follow pearl jam. Then literally your next post said, “ my coworkers thought i was crazy flying to philly.”  So my question is, do you call your coworkers losers? And seeing you would leave the country for pearl jam shows as they stand in 2023 and beyond, I think you need your head examined.  Make sense now? 
    you can't imagine their reaction when I told them I was going to Argentina to see them..lol..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • LBCeddie
    LBCeddie Posts: 112
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    gotthebottle said:
    runstaples said:
    My 40th birthday is in May. It'll cost me a fortune coming all the way from NC, but seeing Pearl Jam in Seattle would be crossing off a life goal for me, haha. I think I gotta go for it. People at work already think I'm crazy for flying to St Paul and Denver over the last couple of years to see them. They just don't understand. 
    Crazy to go from NC to St Paul? That's nothing...lol Who are these losers you work with? What would they think of those of us who go overseas? 
    I've been to Australia 4 x for U2 and Sprngsteen tours and PJ will be 5th time! 
    This was your post, calling this posters coworkers losers because they don’t follow pearl jam. Then literally your next post said, “ my coworkers thought i was crazy flying to philly.”  So my question is, do you call your coworkers losers? And seeing you would leave the country for pearl jam shows as they stand in 2023 and beyond, I think you need your head examined.  Make sense now? 
    you can't imagine their reaction when I told them I was going to Argentina to see them..lol..
    To each their own.  Having seen a ridiculous amount of their shows over the past (almost) 30 years, the shows today in my humble opinion are not worth leaving my state, let alone globetrotting.  I do feel many are holding on to something that is not there anymore.  Just can’t help but see it as a nostalgia act these past couple tours.  The new stuff is mediocre, and the old stuff is not believable anymore. 
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2023
    Bunting10 said:
    D-Rod said:
    PJNB said:
    23scidoo said:
    just_one said:
    23scidoo said:
    CopperTom said:
    JABK said:
    Could they play Open'er Festival in Poland?
    No shows east of Berlin.
    I can't understand that.. Tool at Krakow, Budapest..
    Different band with a total different tour
    Ok but why PJ doesn't do east of Berlin??.. make no sense to me..
    Why did PJ schedule 14 California shows in 2.5 years? These are the questions that keep me up at night. 
    I had a dream that a hamburger was eating me.   That’s what keeping me up at night. 
    Is this a rumor for a show in Hamburg Germany?  Source is a premonition in D-Rods dream!
    Well I did have dinner with Facemeltor’s cousin Corefreezing last night.  

    He also stated that 2024 would be the summer of George . 
    Post edited by D-Rod on
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    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,000
    LBCeddie said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    gotthebottle said:
    runstaples said:
    My 40th birthday is in May. It'll cost me a fortune coming all the way from NC, but seeing Pearl Jam in Seattle would be crossing off a life goal for me, haha. I think I gotta go for it. People at work already think I'm crazy for flying to St Paul and Denver over the last couple of years to see them. They just don't understand. 
    Crazy to go from NC to St Paul? That's nothing...lol Who are these losers you work with? What would they think of those of us who go overseas? 
    I've been to Australia 4 x for U2 and Sprngsteen tours and PJ will be 5th time! 
    This was your post, calling this posters coworkers losers because they don’t follow pearl jam. Then literally your next post said, “ my coworkers thought i was crazy flying to philly.”  So my question is, do you call your coworkers losers? And seeing you would leave the country for pearl jam shows as they stand in 2023 and beyond, I think you need your head examined.  Make sense now? 
    you can't imagine their reaction when I told them I was going to Argentina to see them..lol..
    To each their own.  Having seen a ridiculous amount of their shows over the past (almost) 30 years, the shows today in my humble opinion are not worth leaving my state, let alone globetrotting.  I do feel many are holding on to something that is not there anymore.  Just can’t help but see it as a nostalgia act these past couple tours.  The new stuff is mediocre, and the old stuff is not believable anymore. 
    For me it is not just to see them..always looking for an excuse to travel and always there are friends out there which i can't wait to see..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • devonfz
    devonfz Posts: 181
    I like the 2 shows per city keeps repeats down Austin was really good i think one repeat alive?

    i wish they would rehearse more. A bunch of songs were butchered like half full and save you but felt they were really pushing the set list variety

    still worth traveling for. In my humble opinion!

    West coast! Sacramento will rock 
  • OceanSoul71
    OceanSoul71 Posts: 135
    devonfz said:
    I like the 2 shows per city keeps repeats down Austin was really good i think one repeat alive?

    i wish they would rehearse more. A bunch of songs were butchered like half full and save you but felt they were really pushing the set list variety

    still worth traveling for. In my humble opinion!

    West coast! Sacramento will rock 

    Really hoping for the Pacific Northwest “triangle”:
    Portland - Spokane - Seattle 
    Portland, OR (November 29, 2013) | Seattle, WA (December 06, 2013) | Leeds, UK (July 08, 2014) | St Paul, MN (October 19, 2014) | Denver, CO (October 22, 2014) | Mexico City, MX (November 28, 2015) | Miami (April 09, 2016) | Boston 1 (August 05, 2016) | Prague (July 01, 2018) | Krakow (July 03, 2018) | Berlin (July 05, 2018) | Barcelona (July 10, 2018) | Seattle Night 2 (August 10, 2018) | Missoula, MT (August 13, 2018) | Ohana Festival (September 26, 2021) | Los Angeles (May 06, 2022) | Frankfurt (June 28, 2022) | Copenhagen (July 05, 2022) | London Hyde Park (July 08, 2022) | London Hyde Park (July 09, 2022) | Budapest (July 12, 2022) | New York (September 11, 2022) | St Paul (September 02, 2023) | Chicago (September 05, 2023) | Ft. Worth (September 15, 2023) | Austin (September 19, 2023) | Portland, OR (May 10, 2024) | Las Vegas, NV (May 16, 2024) | Las Vegas, NV (May 18, 2024) | Seattle, WA (May 28, 2024) | Seattle, WA (May 30, 2024) | Manchester (June 25, 2024) | Missoula (August 22, 2024) | Indianapolis (August 26, 2024) | Chicago (August 31, 2024) | Philadelphia (September 09, 2024) | Baltimore (September 12, 2024) | Ohana Festival (September 29, 2024) | Sydney (November 21, 2024) | Sydney (November 23, 2024) | Hollywood (April 26, 2025) | Atlanta (May 01, 2025) | Nashville (May 08, 2025) | Pittsburgh (May 16, 2025) | Pittsburgh (May 18, 2025) [Total: 45]
  • OceanSoul71
    OceanSoul71 Posts: 135
    drfox said:
    23scidoo said:
    just_one said:
    23scidoo said:
    CopperTom said:
    JABK said:
    Could they play Open'er Festival in Poland?
    No shows east of Berlin.
    I can't understand that.. Tool at Krakow, Budapest..
    Different band with a total different tour
    Ok but why PJ doesn't do east of Berlin??.. make no sense to me..
    Probably because they like to limit tour legs to 9-15 shows nowadays and they can’t play everywhere. In Europe they are always going to play U.K. and Germany as they are the two countries with the most fans…. Everywhere else in reality takes turns.


    Yeah but I think Krakow is now amongst their favorites too. Was there in 2018 and had a blast.
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  • GhostChile
    GhostChile Posts: 1,179
    LBCeddie said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    gotthebottle said:
    runstaples said:
    My 40th birthday is in May. It'll cost me a fortune coming all the way from NC, but seeing Pearl Jam in Seattle would be crossing off a life goal for me, haha. I think I gotta go for it. People at work already think I'm crazy for flying to St Paul and Denver over the last couple of years to see them. They just don't understand. 
    Crazy to go from NC to St Paul? That's nothing...lol Who are these losers you work with? What would they think of those of us who go overseas? 
    I've been to Australia 4 x for U2 and Sprngsteen tours and PJ will be 5th time! 
    This was your post, calling this posters coworkers losers because they don’t follow pearl jam. Then literally your next post said, “ my coworkers thought i was crazy flying to philly.”  So my question is, do you call your coworkers losers? And seeing you would leave the country for pearl jam shows as they stand in 2023 and beyond, I think you need your head examined.  Make sense now? 
    you can't imagine their reaction when I told them I was going to Argentina to see them..lol..
    To each their own.  Having seen a ridiculous amount of their shows over the past (almost) 30 years, the shows today in my humble opinion are not worth leaving my state, let alone globetrotting.  I do feel many are holding on to something that is not there anymore.  Just can’t help but see it as a nostalgia act these past couple tours.  The new stuff is mediocre, and the old stuff is not believable anymore. 
    Maybe you saw them "too much" so now you feel that way.
    I have been there 35 times, almost always away from my country. Everytime is diferent and adding new destinations is the key to a fully enjoyable experience.
    Also the frustration of making plans to travel and not being able to attend (several times) makes this thing one of the most excitement activities to do.

    2022 Setlists were a little of a bummer but im sure something odd happened on that tour.

    Cant wait to the Official tour dates!
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,915
    Travelling is wonderful if possible 


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  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 893

    To each their own.  Having seen a ridiculous amount of their shows over the past (almost) 30 years, the shows today in my humble opinion are not worth leaving my state, let alone globetrotting.  I do feel many are holding on to something that is not there anymore.  Just can’t help but see it as a nostalgia act these past couple tours.  The new stuff is mediocre, and the old stuff is not believable anymore. 
    You do realiize the internet is full of sites where you can tell people that they’re idiots and the thing they love sucks now for free right? You don’t need to drop $35 to do it here. 
  • primussucks
    primussucks Posts: 2,365
    seanclax said:
    primussucks said:
    BlueLedbetter said:
    drfox said:
    23scidoo said:
    just_one said:
    23scidoo said:
    CopperTom said:
    JABK said:
    Could they play Open'er Festival in Poland?
    No shows east of Berlin.
    I can't understand that.. Tool at Krakow, Budapest..
    Different band with a total different tour
    Ok but why PJ doesn't do east of Berlin??.. make no sense to me..
    Probably because they like to limit tour legs to 9-15 shows nowadays and they can’t play everywhere. In Europe they are always going to play U.K. and Germany as they are the two countries with the most fans…. Everywhere else in reality takes turns.

    The rumoured dates only cover a couple of weeks I'd guess there will be more 
    Sprinkle in a couple festivals but at this point I wouldn't expect more than 12 dates on any tour leg.
    There gonna do more than 12 shows on a European tour. Itll be closer to 20
    They haven't done a leg consisting of more than 14 dates since 2006 so I'm willing to take that bet!
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    Missoula 6/20/98
    Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
    Alpine Valley 10/8/00 
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    Grand Rapids 5/19/06
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    Chicago 8/23/09
    Indy 5/7/10
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    Milwaukee 14
    Telluride 16
  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,017
    Would like to get back on topic of rumors. But I’ll add, after 51 shows (5 of them in Europe), every time I think the band won’t impress me anymore…they punch me in the face. These 2023 shows blew me away, two of them easily cracked my top 15 if not top 10. 
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x2
  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    primussucks said:
    seanclax said:
    primussucks said:
    BlueLedbetter said:
    drfox said:
    23scidoo said:
    just_one said:
    23scidoo said:
    CopperTom said:
    JABK said:
    Could they play Open'er Festival in Poland?
    No shows east of Berlin.
    I can't understand that.. Tool at Krakow, Budapest..
    Different band with a total different tour
    Ok but why PJ doesn't do east of Berlin??.. make no sense to me..
    Probably because they like to limit tour legs to 9-15 shows nowadays and they can’t play everywhere. In Europe they are always going to play U.K. and Germany as they are the two countries with the most fans…. Everywhere else in reality takes turns.

    The rumoured dates only cover a couple of weeks I'd guess there will be more 
    Sprinkle in a couple festivals but at this point I wouldn't expect more than 12 dates on any tour leg.
    There gonna do more than 12 shows on a European tour. Itll be closer to 20
    They haven't done a leg consisting of more than 14 dates since 2006 so I'm willing to take that bet!
    Well they did plan on doing 17 last time around 
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