Ten Club has some explaining to do
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            Ah, didn't get. Even checked junk. My apologies.0
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            pdalowsky said:why do these things always become such a shit show? Come tour time we can always pretty much guarantee some drama.....but then when you have to work with ticketmaster all bets are off. Strikes me however that despite how unpopular it might be, that given the complexity with the ticket markets these days that seniority in the fanclub might be best done away with. Seniority isnt a concern of mine and never has been being in Europe and I imagine those with low numbers are very attached to it for obvious reasons but I guess times change.
 Although i do imagine also a ton of annual membership fees are inextricably linked to that seniorityIt would be a revenue killer for 10c How many people renew every year so they don't lose seniority. If there's no seniority, you can just sub when the rumours fire up about a tour in your area.Every other band fan club I've joined, I'd sub to get tickets, then unsub the next year. Except maybe u2 where sometimes I stick around because they have cool annual gifts.But yah.. I think 10c would be reluctant because it would remove the need to stay subbed every year, and I think our dues keep them afloat?0 How many people renew every year so they don't lose seniority. If there's no seniority, you can just sub when the rumours fire up about a tour in your area.Every other band fan club I've joined, I'd sub to get tickets, then unsub the next year. Except maybe u2 where sometimes I stick around because they have cool annual gifts.But yah.. I think 10c would be reluctant because it would remove the need to stay subbed every year, and I think our dues keep them afloat?0
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            Got to be TM issue surely?
 We still use the old system in Europe and it seems to be relatively issue free0
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            Raise membership costs, cut benefits, use Ticketmaster for 10C lotteries. THEY DO NOT FUCKING CARE0
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            Love the band. Have longstanding doubts about the business.___________________________________________
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            If only the purchasing of tickets (which is really the only reason most of us belong - is for the live shows) could be as smoothe as the processing on my credit card when I buy worthless PJ view masters - there never seems to be a problem with that. Oddly they still have not mastered the one thing that matters most to the fan base...Buying Tickets to see the band....Is it really that complicated in 2023? I would sign-up for camping out at a Strawberry's all day long over this process.0
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            Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care 1998: Pitt
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 Does that make any sense? Lolrival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care 0
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            Hahaha! No they don’t. At the end of the day, it’s just concert tix. Not life and death. They can issue an apology that things got screwy and move on. Just like Taylor Swift.Austin, TX - 9/16/95 ~ Charleston, SC - 10/5/96 ~ Dallas, TX - 7/5/98 ~ San Antonio, TX - 4/5/03 ~ Denver, CO - 7/2/06 ~ EV - LA #2 - 4/13/08 ~ Austin, TX - 10/4/09 ~ Los Angeles, CA #1 - 11/23/13 ~ Los Angeles, CA #2 - 11/24/13 ~ Seattle, WA - 12/6/13 ~ NYC #1 - 5/1/16 ~ Boston, MA #1 - 8/5/16 ~ Boston, MA #2 - 8/7/16 ~ Boston, MA #1 - 9/2/18 ~ Boston, MA #2 - 9/4/18 ~ Louisville, KY - 9/17/22 ~ Ft. Worth, TX #1 - 9/13/23 ~ Ft. Worth, TX #2 - 9/15/23 ~ Austin, Texas #1 - 9/18/23 ~ Austin, Texas #2 - 9/19/23 ~ NYC #2 - 9/4/24 ~ Boston, MA #1 - 9/15/24 ~ Boston, MA #2 - 9/17/24 ~ Atlanta, GA #2 - 5/1/250
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 Exactly. For a fan base of supposed adults, the whining and entitlement is astonishing. In the end if you want to go and put in effort you can get tickets even if you don't "win" them in the lottery.The Camaros Hood said:Hahaha! No they don’t. At the end of the day, it’s just concert tix. Not life and death. They can issue an apology that things got screwy and move on. Just like Taylor Swift.1998-06-30 Mpls | 2006-07-06 Las Vegas
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 Here was my email to them:riley540 said:
 Does that make any sense? Lolrival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care Hello, I am greatly disappointed because I only chose one show (St. Paul 8/31) GA/RES. I got nothing but see people getting tickets for this who had it as their 3rd, 4th, and 5th choice/priority. Shouldn’t 1st priority get tix before them? Please help me understand or is something messed up with the system. Thanks very much. 
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 2005: Pitt
 2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
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 2009: Philly 3
 2010: Columbus
 2012: Philly
 2013: Pitt, NYC 1+20
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 There it is in plain English. For all of those that said the lottery dismisses priority (i.e. 9th pick has same odds as 1st pick), please explain...rival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care 
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 I picked the same selection and show as you. My only pick. Also didn’t get picked. I also saw people with it as their 5th choice getting tickets. Something got messed up this time for sure!rival9500 said:
 Here was my email to them:riley540 said:
 Does that make any sense? Lolrival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care Hello, I am greatly disappointed because I only chose one show (St. Paul 8/31) GA/RES. I got nothing but see people getting tickets for this who had it as their 3rd, 4th, and 5th choice/priority. Shouldn’t 1st priority get tix before them? Please help me understand or is something messed up with the system. Thanks very much. 0
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 She might as well have said..."Thank you for contacting us but FUCK YOU"riley540 said:
 Does that make any sense? Lolrival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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 Likely a script response that they are told to provide.rival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care 
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 In fairness, it says considering.bbiggs said:
 There it is in plain English. For all of those that said the lottery dismisses priority (i.e. 9th pick has same odds as 1st pick), please explain...rival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care 
 I could consider something all day and still arrive at an inconsistent result, you know?0
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 Of course.Doug87 said:
 Likely a script response that they are told to provide.rival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care 0
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 They are just copying and pasting now. Because the first people I talked to couldn't even type that out. Our emails are just being forwarded to China/India. They don't have a clue.rival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care 
 Our best bet is to get on the phone if you have some time and want actual answers. Probably need to go full Karen and demand the manager.
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 Has anyone ever contacted Customer Service, specifically, the complaints/non customer retention department???rival9500 said:Here’s the reply I got from Tickets Today:Thank you for contacting us. To level the playing field, ticket requests are fulfilled in a randomized selection process while still considering show priority. Sincerely, Esmeralda Ticketstoday Customer Care 
 "Esmeralda" is likely half way across the world and has no f'n clue what's actually happening.
 She only knows what her management team tells her to say.
 Anybody who's ever called a complaints department knows how/where these departments are typically staffed and how little authority/knowledge they likely have on actual issues.0
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 Sorry but I think fans are entitled to the process being run the way in which it was described prior to the start of the lottery. Based on results we are seeing that is clearly not the case in some instances.jwhjr17 said:
 Exactly. For a fan base of supposed adults, the whining and entitlement is astonishing. In the end if you want to go and put in effort you can get tickets even if you don't "win" them in the lottery.The Camaros Hood said:Hahaha! No they don’t. At the end of the day, it’s just concert tix. Not life and death. They can issue an apology that things got screwy and move on. Just like Taylor Swift.
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