Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

Shaggy · April 2023

TK226422 said:

Scored both Chicago shows section 200's. Taking my step-son to his first PJ show and taking my brother Thursday night.
Thank You Ten Club and PJ!!!! See you all in September!

I took my son to his first PJ concert last Sept in OKC. He wanted to go up to the front about 1/2 way thru the show. He came back at the end with a tamborine from Ed, a handful of picks from Mike and Jeff's wristband. Honestly, I was a little disappointed with Matt for not completing his collection, but kids today are a little spoiled.

GlorifiedGEE · April 2023

Kscott1074 said:

Just got reserved for Austin N2. That's three out of seven requests (priority, 3, 5, 6)

what time did that email come through?

turbomav · April 2023

So I got my 6, 7 and 9th priority choices so far. Just happy to get tickets!

jlm08726 · April 2023

ComeToTX said:

skinnyportagee said:

Has anyone used the Fan to Fan thing before? If you want to get rid of a ticket does just it just go up for the first random person to snag or can you specify a recipient?

You place it up for sale and anyone can buy it.

As someone who put in for four shows and have been skunked, I’m very interested in the fan to fan… is there more info about it somewhere? I think I read that starting in May is when tickets can become listed. Thanks in advance!

gruene9 · April 2023

Just got N2 Austin reserved, section section 206!!!

fixer123 · April 2023

Wait a minute—people are getting tickets they didn’t even put in for? And many of us are sitting here with none? Who do we tag to get this looked into?

marra2312 · April 2023

PJNB said:

marra2312 said:

machinehum said:

tylerj said:

PJNB said:

tylerj said:

CopperTom said:

tylerj said:

All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone.

I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise.

No. First priority are drawn first. If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries. A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win.

That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets.

That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system

All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number.

People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important.

Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.

Lol right it is so simlple

5000 pairs to go out for 10C

Priority 1 is drawn

3000 people have it as a first pick. All win

Priority 2 is drawn

2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose.

Everyone after priority 2 loses

This is not hard.

Except there's people here saying that they missed tickets for STP with it as priority 1.

And there's people with priority 3 and lower winning for STP (myself included).

So it can't be quite as simple as you are suggesting (either that or we have a bunch of unreliable narrators here).

tylerj · April 2023

JBob87 said:

tylerj said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

marra2312 said:

machinehum said:

tylerj said:

PJNB said:

tylerj said:

CopperTom said:

tylerj said:

All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone.

I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise.

No. First priority are drawn first. If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries. A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win.

That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets.

That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system

All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number.

People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important.

Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.

Lol right it is so simlple

5000 pairs to go out for 10C

Priority 1 is drawn

3000 people have it as a first pick. All win

Priority 2 is drawn

2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose.

Everyone after priority 2 loses

This is not hard.

With respect, you're very wrong because you're oversimplifying the problem space. Your example doesn't have 9 events with people ranking subsets of them. A forum post isn't the place to get into it, but for some enlightening lay-audience-oriented discussion take a look for example here: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/372916/ranked-preference-matching-algorithm or google "ranked matching", "preference matching", "stable matching", "bipartite graphs", etc.

What their (and other people are not getting) is that one has to be picked in the lottery first before priorities mean anything. Not picked in the lottery, and it doesn't matter what your priority is.

If that is how it works that is a new way of running the lottery imposed by TM

It is new and I believe it's been that way now since TM took over the lottery, which was maybe a tour or 2 ago.

baldog27 · April 2023

I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option)
1. Chi 2 Lost
2. Chi 1 Lost
3. Noble Lost
4. St Paul 1 Lost
5. Austin 1 Lost
6. St Paul 2 Lost

7. Austin 2 WON

JimmyV · April 2023

2nd Priority, Chicago N2 GA/Res, Res

Just got an email. Section 216, Row 6

Cob · April 2023

Ledbetterdays said:

seems like something is wrong with Austin night 1 ticket distribution

My friend just told me his buddy got 2 sets of tickets for Austin night 1, so yes, something is wrong......I put in for Fort Worth night 2 and Austin 1 and 2, I got Fort Worth and Austin night 2, but no word on Austin night 1 yet.

circlesdown · April 2023

MK88178 said:

Has anyone who only selected ga/res received reserved section?

I selected ga/res for FW1 (2nd priority) and got seats

The Camaros Hood · April 2023

fixer123 said:

Wait a minute—people are getting tickets they didn’t even put in for? And many of us are sitting here with none? Who do we tag to get this looked into?

Yes. This seems to be the case.

NSL · April 2023

NSL said:

1. Indy Reserved - nothing
2. ft worth n2 - Sec 113, Row 14
3. ft worth n1 - Sec 121, Row 15

come on gimme something!

So weird, I got n1 about 30 minutes before n2 even though n2 was my 2nd priority.

yay!

machinehum · April 2023

SS5827 · April 2023

Me and the person I’m going with got Chicago 1 and I’m looking to trade a pair for Chicago 2 if anyone is interested.

browngw · April 2023

Priority 1 Fort Worth Night 1

Priority 2 Fort Worth Night 2

Scored night one at 3:27 Section 122 Row 1

Scored night two at 3:41 Section 120 Row 11

Member number 719***

tylerj · April 2023

JimmyV said:

2nd Priority, Chicago N2 GA/Res, Res

Just got an email. Section 216, Row 6

There may still be hope for Chicago folks!

Hurls15 · April 2023

tylerj said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

marra2312 said:

machinehum said:

tylerj said:

PJNB said:

tylerj said:

CopperTom said:

tylerj said:

All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone.

I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise.

No. First priority are drawn first. If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries. A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win.

That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets.

That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system

All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number.

People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important.

Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.

Lol right it is so simlple

5000 pairs to go out for 10C

Priority 1 is drawn

3000 people have it as a first pick. All win

Priority 2 is drawn

2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose.

Everyone after priority 2 loses

This is not hard.

With respect, you're very wrong because you're oversimplifying the problem space. Your example doesn't have 9 events with people ranking subsets of them. A forum post isn't the place to get into it, but for some enlightening lay-audience-oriented discussion take a look for example here: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/372916/ranked-preference-matching-algorithm or google "ranked matching", "preference matching", "stable matching", "bipartite graphs", etc.

What their (and other people are not getting) is that one has to be picked in the lottery first before priorities mean anything. Not picked in the lottery, and it doesn't matter what your priority is.

Agreed. The lingering question (at least for Chicago) is whether or not people who chose GA or RES only (ie not RES) were in the pile of entries that were drawn after GA was chosen. I have been following along all day and I don't recall seeing a single post where someone who chose GA or RES only was successful in getting a RES ticket.

JimmyV · April 2023

tylerj said:

JimmyV said:

2nd Priority, Chicago N2 GA/Res, Res

Just got an email. Section 216, Row 6

There may still be hope for Chicago folks!

Email came in at 5:30pm eastern

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