The Official 2023 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    edited April 2023
    Pj will never play Australiasia or Asia again as touring cost too high and won't make a profit, we will be lucky to get a South American tour.
  • Bunting10
    Bunting10 Massachusetts, USA Posts: 777
    Brisk. said:
    Pj will never play Australiasia or Asia again as touring cost too high and won't make a profit, we will be lucky to get a South American tour.
    Zero chance they don’t play Australia again.  
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  • Williston
    Williston Minnesota Posts: 141
    pjl44 said:
    Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
    Such as U2 perhaps? Cause based off the fact that dates haven’t even been announced yet for their SPHERE shows, i could see them just waiting til 2024 for those shows an do them with Larry.
  • Williston
    Williston Minnesota Posts: 141
    wsimon74 said:
    jpgoegel said:
    could these be EV solo dates, instead of PJ?
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the leaks are accurate, the venue sizes don't match a EV solo show. 
    You are right. I live in MN and Xcel Energy Center seats 20-23,000
  • CO278952
    CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,451
    bootlegger10 said:
    Wonder if COVID bubbles are playing into it. They don’t like living in a bubble for too long.  Multiple shows minimizes travel from city to city.   Shorter tour, maybe less insurance. 

    I don’t know. 
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  • Williston
    Williston Minnesota Posts: 141
    jgregory89 said:
    jlindgren2 said:
    jgregory89 said:
    kkballe said:
    Been lurking, waiting for more announcements.  Decided to look for myself.  Found these .json files with show info...

    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23161.json "Saturday, September 30, 2023" "Ohana Festival" "Dana Point, CA"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23162.json "Thursday, August 31, 2023"  "Xcel Energy Center"  "St Paul, MN"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23163.json "Saturday, September 02, 2023" "Xcel Energy Center"  "St Paul, MN"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23164.json "Tuesday, September 05, 2023"  "United Center"  "Chicago, IL"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23165.json "Thursday, September 07, 2023"  "United Center" "Chicago, IL"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23166.json "Sunday, September 10, 2023"  "Ruoff Music Center" "Indianapolis, IN"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23167.json "Wednesday, September 13, 2023"  "Dickies Arena" "Dallas / Ft Worth, TX"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23168.json "Friday, September 15, 2023"  "Dickies Arena"  "Dallas / Ft Worth, TX"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23169.json "Monday, September 18, 2023" "Moody Center"  "Austin, TX"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23170.json "Tuesday, September 19, 2023" "Moody Center" "Austin, TX"

    Nothing not already "known" and nothing past the second Austin show so far...

    MGM Grand Arena is open the week in between Austin and Ohana. 

    Don't tease.

    What about the Golden 1 Center?
    They've got events on the 23rd and 27th.  

    As for Vegas though, I'd love to see them at the new MSG Sphere, but I don't think it'll be ready by then.
    It wont be ready, U2 hasn’t even announced the dates yet of their shows yet cause they don’t even know if construction will be done by September
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,883
    Williston said:
    jgregory89 said:
    jlindgren2 said:
    jgregory89 said:
    kkballe said:
    Been lurking, waiting for more announcements.  Decided to look for myself.  Found these .json files with show info...

    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23161.json "Saturday, September 30, 2023" "Ohana Festival" "Dana Point, CA"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23162.json "Thursday, August 31, 2023"  "Xcel Energy Center"  "St Paul, MN"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23163.json "Saturday, September 02, 2023" "Xcel Energy Center"  "St Paul, MN"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23164.json "Tuesday, September 05, 2023"  "United Center"  "Chicago, IL"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23165.json "Thursday, September 07, 2023"  "United Center" "Chicago, IL"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23166.json "Sunday, September 10, 2023"  "Ruoff Music Center" "Indianapolis, IN"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23167.json "Wednesday, September 13, 2023"  "Dickies Arena" "Dallas / Ft Worth, TX"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23168.json "Friday, September 15, 2023"  "Dickies Arena"  "Dallas / Ft Worth, TX"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23169.json "Monday, September 18, 2023" "Moody Center"  "Austin, TX"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23170.json "Tuesday, September 19, 2023" "Moody Center" "Austin, TX"

    Nothing not already "known" and nothing past the second Austin show so far...

    MGM Grand Arena is open the week in between Austin and Ohana. 

    Don't tease.

    What about the Golden 1 Center?
    They've got events on the 23rd and 27th.  

    As for Vegas though, I'd love to see them at the new MSG Sphere, but I don't think it'll be ready by then.
    It wont be ready, U2 hasn’t even announced the dates yet of their shows yet cause they don’t even know if construction will be done by September
    The Sphere is selling tickets for its Postcard-From-Earth video shiw starting October 6th
  • johnny__utah
    johnny__utah New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 201
    Williston said:
    jgregory89 said:
    jlindgren2 said:
    jgregory89 said:
    kkballe said:
    Been lurking, waiting for more announcements.  Decided to look for myself.  Found these .json files with show info...

    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23161.json "Saturday, September 30, 2023" "Ohana Festival" "Dana Point, CA"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23162.json "Thursday, August 31, 2023"  "Xcel Energy Center"  "St Paul, MN"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23163.json "Saturday, September 02, 2023" "Xcel Energy Center"  "St Paul, MN"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23164.json "Tuesday, September 05, 2023"  "United Center"  "Chicago, IL"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23165.json "Thursday, September 07, 2023"  "United Center" "Chicago, IL"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23166.json "Sunday, September 10, 2023"  "Ruoff Music Center" "Indianapolis, IN"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23167.json "Wednesday, September 13, 2023"  "Dickies Arena" "Dallas / Ft Worth, TX"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23168.json "Friday, September 15, 2023"  "Dickies Arena"  "Dallas / Ft Worth, TX"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23169.json "Monday, September 18, 2023" "Moody Center"  "Austin, TX"
    https://pearljam.com/tour/show/23170.json "Tuesday, September 19, 2023" "Moody Center" "Austin, TX"

    Nothing not already "known" and nothing past the second Austin show so far...

    MGM Grand Arena is open the week in between Austin and Ohana. 

    Don't tease.

    What about the Golden 1 Center?
    They've got events on the 23rd and 27th.  

    As for Vegas though, I'd love to see them at the new MSG Sphere, but I don't think it'll be ready by then.
    It wont be ready, U2 hasn’t even announced the dates yet of their shows yet cause they don’t even know if construction will be done by September
    Opening October 6th for the Postcard from Earth 'movie' that was made for the sphere. Tickets already on sale via ticketmaster, but no official date for U2 yet. Sounds like the whole concept is struggling to find acts that want to invest in the process of making a show for the sphere's screens.  
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 996
    edited April 2023
    Changed my mind, ha!
    Delete
    Post edited by OfThePearl on
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,292
    Williston said:
    wsimon74 said:
    jpgoegel said:
    could these be EV solo dates, instead of PJ?
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the leaks are accurate, the venue sizes don't match a EV solo show. 
    You are right. I live in MN and Xcel Energy Center seats 20-23,000

    A lot (all?) of the arenas have downsizing capacity. The stage could be directly at midcourt/center ice. The upper level(s) don't have to be sold.

    If tickets continue to sell, the upper levels could be opened up if necessary.

    But even then, you might as well just use a theater.
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  • Doug87
    Doug87 Posts: 442
    edited April 2023
    pjl44 said:
    Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
    Boy, if that’s a reference to what I think it could be, my mind just might explode.

    interesting enough a certain fellow was considering a tour that would line up very well with this timeline and promoting energy efficiency and non farm food.  

    In fact, it would line up to the exact same ending of that possible tour.

    If that were the case, boy am I about to be a very happy camper potentially.
    Post edited by Doug87 on
  • iwasatpj20
    iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,475
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Weird bits of routing cherry-picked out of an extensive tour aren't going to compare with MN-IL-IN-TX then go home. That it is a twelve hour drive is part of the weirdness. That there appear to only appear to be 9 shows is part of the weirdness. That those nine shows are in only four states is part of the weirdness.

    Only 9 shows, if true, after 4 of the last 6 years featured zero headline shows (or a couple festivals) is weird

    At this point,  they might as well start labeling every tour Farewell Part 1, 2 etc. because it’s going to take them forever to see all their fans/markets one more time.
    Some of those markets are never gonna see them again, they just don’t know it yet. And all of us who aren’t in a major city are just hoping it ain’t us.
    This is unfortunately probably extremely accurate.
    I agree.
    Wish PJ would play Moline again
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    2003 - Champaign, IL
    2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
    2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
    2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
    2010 - St. Louis, MO
    2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
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    2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)
    2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ??
    2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
    2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
    2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
    2025 - Pittsburgh, PA1 & Pittsburgh PA2


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    2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
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  • euchrid
    euchrid Posts: 895
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Zod said:
    PJNB said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    darman said:
    dmbolp said:
    DMB has been giving shows to brand new venues for years, I assume mainly due to their huge connection to Live Nation / MusicToday / Coran Capshaw.  They've played small new venues in B'ham, Huntsville, Southaven, JAX, etc.  Looks like PJ doing the same, Austin Moody Center opened a year ago, Dickies opened NOV 2019 just before COVID hit.  Every venue has it's own P/L and new venues need big sellout shows to be profitable asap.
    As long as they don’t go the DMB route and play new, 7,000 seat places (Live Oak - Wilmington, NC) and have them sell out in seconds to the scalper market. 

    If Pearl Jam does what they did for the 2022 tour, they shouldn't be too worried about scalpers.

    1) Digital tickets only.
    2) The only way to transfer is via Fan2Fan.
    3) Do whatever The Cure did to restrict people selling TM passwords.
    What was done?
    I'm curious too, because as long as you know the password, you can download the tickets into your wallet on the phone (like Google wallet).  Once you do that you don't even need the password anymore.  So you could get someone to login, download the tickets, then change the password.  Bit of kryptonite in the process.

    Approx 7k tickets were canceled.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/robert-smith-says-7000-scalped-cure-tickets-have-been-canceled/ar-AA19kDhB
    They cross referenced seat locations listed on stubhub etc and cancelled them. Still basically the same as PJ as there were a few that showed up on stubhub etc that were removed but not sure if they were actually cancelled. Either way you didn't see any on those sites..expect for scalper friendly state shows.
  • DEGBTI
    DEGBTI san diego Posts: 998
    can pj even make any money from a 9 stop arena tour? This whole thing is so weird. Has to be bigger but no leaks other than the nine, crazy
  • Kevinman
    Kevinman Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 1,923
    iwasatpj20 said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    JimmyV said:
    Weird bits of routing cherry-picked out of an extensive tour aren't going to compare with MN-IL-IN-TX then go home. That it is a twelve hour drive is part of the weirdness. That there appear to only appear to be 9 shows is part of the weirdness. That those nine shows are in only four states is part of the weirdness.

    Only 9 shows, if true, after 4 of the last 6 years featured zero headline shows (or a couple festivals) is weird

    At this point,  they might as well start labeling every tour Farewell Part 1, 2 etc. because it’s going to take them forever to see all their fans/markets one more time.
    Some of those markets are never gonna see them again, they just don’t know it yet. And all of us who aren’t in a major city are just hoping it ain’t us.
    This is unfortunately probably extremely accurate.
    I agree.
    Wish PJ would play Moline again
    That was a fun show.
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  • jefft
    jefft Posts: 678
    DEGBTI said:
    can pj even make any money from a 9 stop arena tour? This whole thing is so weird. Has to be bigger but no leaks other than the nine, crazy
    Merch
  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,900
    jefft said:
    DEGBTI said:
    can pj even make any money from a 9 stop arena tour? This whole thing is so weird. Has to be bigger but no leaks other than the nine, crazy
    Merch
    Even with a conservative 9 shows, $35 price point and ~3,500 prints you’re looking at over $1.1 million, not including stickers/shirts/everything else. 

    Won’t be surprised if a split leg tour (early fall, mid-winter) is part of the plan, but they will announce segments at a time to ensure most of us grab tickets when available vs planning ahead for the full amount of dates they intend to play.
  • RatherStarved
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    I missed a day from this thread.  200 updates.  A fake news Philly show and a bunch of chatter.  And a new type of file.  Just another typical day.
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,292
    tschav said:
    jefft said:
    DEGBTI said:
    can pj even make any money from a 9 stop arena tour? This whole thing is so weird. Has to be bigger but no leaks other than the nine, crazy
    Merch
    Even with a conservative 9 shows, $35 price point and ~3,500 prints you’re looking at over $1.1 million, not including stickers/shirts/everything else. 

    Won’t be surprised if a split leg tour (early fall, mid-winter) is part of the plan, but they will announce segments at a time to ensure most of us grab tickets when available vs planning ahead for the full amount of dates they intend to play.

    I doubt they'll do mid-winter, but I can see them do something in May, once the NBA and NHL go into playoffs.

    Apparently part of the reason why Columbus had that 2010 show was the local NHL team's failure to make the playoffs. I had heard PJ also had Dallas and State College booked that same date. (5/6/2010.)
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  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    tschav said:
    jefft said:
    DEGBTI said:
    can pj even make any money from a 9 stop arena tour? This whole thing is so weird. Has to be bigger but no leaks other than the nine, crazy
    Merch
    Even with a conservative 9 shows, $35 price point and ~3,500 prints you’re looking at over $1.1 million, not including stickers/shirts/everything else. 

    Won’t be surprised if a split leg tour (early fall, mid-winter) is part of the plan, but they will announce segments at a time to ensure most of us grab tickets when available vs planning ahead for the full amount of dates they intend to play.
    Posters are $45 now. 
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