The Official 2023 Tour Rumor Thread

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  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 893
    JimmyV said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    estarr31 said:
    Is it possible these cities were previously targeted as part of a larger Gigaton tour 2020/2021, preCovid? And they're catching up now? 
    Feels like they plug in well with Leg 2 last year. 
    I’ve seen this theory before but a 2nd leg in 2020 would have been election-year themed: Swing states (Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc), prob Missoula to stump for Jon Tester, places like that. If next year is indeed a new album tour those places make more sense then when it’s election time again.
    Chicago, United Center, was on the list for 2nd leg in 2020.  I had confirmation from same person in box office that gave me the September 5th and 7th dates this year.
    Fair enough, I’m certain they would have hit Chicago. But I doubt this is the same overall itinerary, just a couple overlaps. Their election year routing is one of the few touring details that is still pretty predictable 
    Not really. I posted this many, many, many pages ago.

    Second halves of recent election years:

    2022 - A short run of September shows, done by October
    2020 - Supposedly there were plans, but nothing was ever announced and it was wiped out by COVID
    2018 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2016 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2014 - An October run of shows
    2012 - Three September festivals, a Jon Tester benefit in Missoula, and an Oracle secret show in early October - Ed on the road in November and early December making up shows originally scheduled for May
    2010 - Two Bridge School dates in late October
    2008 - No Pearl Jam shows, Ed on the road in August


    Ok I stand corrected. But the routing actually confuses me more in that case.
  • seanclax
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    jpgoegel said:
    craigraether said:
    jpgoegel said:
    could these be EV solo dates, instead of PJ?
    No, EV wouldnt fill large arenas for even one nite in any of those markets... 
    ahhhh right, I wasnt looking at the arenas.  good point
    Saw EV sell out multiple arenas in Europe in 19.
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,360
    CM189191 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    mace1229 said:
    This list seems really odd to me. 2 nights in cities that aren't as big as ones that got just 1 last year?
    If this truly is all there is, it will be one of the strangest tours they have ever played. 
    Not really.  There are just no east coast dates and the band is finally taking care of Texas after neglecting us for so long.  :)
    9 shows in 5 cities would be an odd tour regardless of geography 

    During their 2006 tour, they did 10 shows in 6 cities

    And 6 of those shows were opening for Tom Petty

    I wonder who Pearl Jam will be opening for on this tour? 
    PJ's grown in stature since then. They won't open for anyone save a McCartney/Starr quasi-Beatles tour. Maybe Neil, out of respect. That's about it.
    35 years, 35 shows.

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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    kmcmanus said:
    JimmyV said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    estarr31 said:
    Is it possible these cities were previously targeted as part of a larger Gigaton tour 2020/2021, preCovid? And they're catching up now? 
    Feels like they plug in well with Leg 2 last year. 
    I’ve seen this theory before but a 2nd leg in 2020 would have been election-year themed: Swing states (Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc), prob Missoula to stump for Jon Tester, places like that. If next year is indeed a new album tour those places make more sense then when it’s election time again.
    Chicago, United Center, was on the list for 2nd leg in 2020.  I had confirmation from same person in box office that gave me the September 5th and 7th dates this year.
    Fair enough, I’m certain they would have hit Chicago. But I doubt this is the same overall itinerary, just a couple overlaps. Their election year routing is one of the few touring details that is still pretty predictable 
    Not really. I posted this many, many, many pages ago.

    Second halves of recent election years:

    2022 - A short run of September shows, done by October
    2020 - Supposedly there were plans, but nothing was ever announced and it was wiped out by COVID
    2018 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2016 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2014 - An October run of shows
    2012 - Three September festivals, a Jon Tester benefit in Missoula, and an Oracle secret show in early October - Ed on the road in November and early December making up shows originally scheduled for May
    2010 - Two Bridge School dates in late October
    2008 - No Pearl Jam shows, Ed on the road in August


    Ok I stand corrected. But the routing actually confuses me more in that case.
    It is really not the odd, frankly for them, this is almost too precise given their tours usually have a couple of weird jags.

    But playing two nights in the same city and moving in what appears to be a normal linear fashion is really quite efficient given their passed one and done approach often.

    There crew are no spring chickens and neither are they, so barring something unusual in their planning they probably have their setup rigged in St Paul at the excel by 8.29, if not earlier, soundcheck on 8.30, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.3 and off to Chicago.  Rig up by morning of 9.5, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.8 and off to Indianapolis - so on an so forth.


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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    PB11041 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    JimmyV said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    estarr31 said:
    Is it possible these cities were previously targeted as part of a larger Gigaton tour 2020/2021, preCovid? And they're catching up now? 
    Feels like they plug in well with Leg 2 last year. 
    I’ve seen this theory before but a 2nd leg in 2020 would have been election-year themed: Swing states (Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc), prob Missoula to stump for Jon Tester, places like that. If next year is indeed a new album tour those places make more sense then when it’s election time again.
    Chicago, United Center, was on the list for 2nd leg in 2020.  I had confirmation from same person in box office that gave me the September 5th and 7th dates this year.
    Fair enough, I’m certain they would have hit Chicago. But I doubt this is the same overall itinerary, just a couple overlaps. Their election year routing is one of the few touring details that is still pretty predictable 
    Not really. I posted this many, many, many pages ago.

    Second halves of recent election years:

    2022 - A short run of September shows, done by October
    2020 - Supposedly there were plans, but nothing was ever announced and it was wiped out by COVID
    2018 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2016 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2014 - An October run of shows
    2012 - Three September festivals, a Jon Tester benefit in Missoula, and an Oracle secret show in early October - Ed on the road in November and early December making up shows originally scheduled for May
    2010 - Two Bridge School dates in late October
    2008 - No Pearl Jam shows, Ed on the road in August


    Ok I stand corrected. But the routing actually confuses me more in that case.
    It is really not the odd, frankly for them, this is almost too precise given their tours usually have a couple of weird jags.

    But playing two nights in the same city and moving in what appears to be a normal linear fashion is really quite efficient given their passed one and done approach often.

    There crew are no spring chickens and neither are they, so barring something unusual in their planning they probably have their setup rigged in St Paul at the excel by 8.29, if not earlier, soundcheck on 8.30, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.3 and off to Chicago.  Rig up by morning of 9.5, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.8 and off to Indianapolis - so on an so forth.


    But from Indiana they go to Texas? That's weird routing. 
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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,070
    JimmyV said:
    PB11041 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    JimmyV said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    estarr31 said:
    Is it possible these cities were previously targeted as part of a larger Gigaton tour 2020/2021, preCovid? And they're catching up now? 
    Feels like they plug in well with Leg 2 last year. 
    I’ve seen this theory before but a 2nd leg in 2020 would have been election-year themed: Swing states (Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc), prob Missoula to stump for Jon Tester, places like that. If next year is indeed a new album tour those places make more sense then when it’s election time again.
    Chicago, United Center, was on the list for 2nd leg in 2020.  I had confirmation from same person in box office that gave me the September 5th and 7th dates this year.
    Fair enough, I’m certain they would have hit Chicago. But I doubt this is the same overall itinerary, just a couple overlaps. Their election year routing is one of the few touring details that is still pretty predictable 
    Not really. I posted this many, many, many pages ago.

    Second halves of recent election years:

    2022 - A short run of September shows, done by October
    2020 - Supposedly there were plans, but nothing was ever announced and it was wiped out by COVID
    2018 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2016 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2014 - An October run of shows
    2012 - Three September festivals, a Jon Tester benefit in Missoula, and an Oracle secret show in early October - Ed on the road in November and early December making up shows originally scheduled for May
    2010 - Two Bridge School dates in late October
    2008 - No Pearl Jam shows, Ed on the road in August


    Ok I stand corrected. But the routing actually confuses me more in that case.
    It is really not the odd, frankly for them, this is almost too precise given their tours usually have a couple of weird jags.

    But playing two nights in the same city and moving in what appears to be a normal linear fashion is really quite efficient given their passed one and done approach often.

    There crew are no spring chickens and neither are they, so barring something unusual in their planning they probably have their setup rigged in St Paul at the excel by 8.29, if not earlier, soundcheck on 8.30, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.3 and off to Chicago.  Rig up by morning of 9.5, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.8 and off to Indianapolis - so on an so forth.


    But from Indiana they go to Texas? That's weird routing. 
    Better than 2009 when they played 2 in LA then came to Austin before heading back to LA for 2 more shows. They’ve always toured strangely. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • critterau
    critterau Posts: 217
    They went from Camden to Nashville last year
    Bham 9/3/98
    Atl 8/7/00, Houston 10/14/00
    Bham 4/9/03, Nash 4/18/03, Atl 4/19/03, Boston 7/11/03, Hershey 7/12/03
    Orlando 10/8/04
    Camden 5/27, 5/28/06
    PJ20 9/3 & 9/4/11
    Missoula 9/30/12
    Wrigley 7/19/13
    Charlotte 10/30/13, SD 11/21/13, LA 2 11/24/13
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    ComeToTX said:
    JimmyV said:
    PB11041 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    JimmyV said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    estarr31 said:
    Is it possible these cities were previously targeted as part of a larger Gigaton tour 2020/2021, preCovid? And they're catching up now? 
    Feels like they plug in well with Leg 2 last year. 
    I’ve seen this theory before but a 2nd leg in 2020 would have been election-year themed: Swing states (Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc), prob Missoula to stump for Jon Tester, places like that. If next year is indeed a new album tour those places make more sense then when it’s election time again.
    Chicago, United Center, was on the list for 2nd leg in 2020.  I had confirmation from same person in box office that gave me the September 5th and 7th dates this year.
    Fair enough, I’m certain they would have hit Chicago. But I doubt this is the same overall itinerary, just a couple overlaps. Their election year routing is one of the few touring details that is still pretty predictable 
    Not really. I posted this many, many, many pages ago.

    Second halves of recent election years:

    2022 - A short run of September shows, done by October
    2020 - Supposedly there were plans, but nothing was ever announced and it was wiped out by COVID
    2018 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2016 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2014 - An October run of shows
    2012 - Three September festivals, a Jon Tester benefit in Missoula, and an Oracle secret show in early October - Ed on the road in November and early December making up shows originally scheduled for May
    2010 - Two Bridge School dates in late October
    2008 - No Pearl Jam shows, Ed on the road in August


    Ok I stand corrected. But the routing actually confuses me more in that case.
    It is really not the odd, frankly for them, this is almost too precise given their tours usually have a couple of weird jags.

    But playing two nights in the same city and moving in what appears to be a normal linear fashion is really quite efficient given their passed one and done approach often.

    There crew are no spring chickens and neither are they, so barring something unusual in their planning they probably have their setup rigged in St Paul at the excel by 8.29, if not earlier, soundcheck on 8.30, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.3 and off to Chicago.  Rig up by morning of 9.5, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.8 and off to Indianapolis - so on an so forth.


    But from Indiana they go to Texas? That's weird routing. 
    Better than 2009 when they played 2 in LA then came to Austin before heading back to LA for 2 more shows. They’ve always toured strangely. 
    Agreed on 2009. That was a super weird year. 
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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    JimmyV said:
    PB11041 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    JimmyV said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    estarr31 said:
    Is it possible these cities were previously targeted as part of a larger Gigaton tour 2020/2021, preCovid? And they're catching up now? 
    Feels like they plug in well with Leg 2 last year. 
    I’ve seen this theory before but a 2nd leg in 2020 would have been election-year themed: Swing states (Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc), prob Missoula to stump for Jon Tester, places like that. If next year is indeed a new album tour those places make more sense then when it’s election time again.
    Chicago, United Center, was on the list for 2nd leg in 2020.  I had confirmation from same person in box office that gave me the September 5th and 7th dates this year.
    Fair enough, I’m certain they would have hit Chicago. But I doubt this is the same overall itinerary, just a couple overlaps. Their election year routing is one of the few touring details that is still pretty predictable 
    Not really. I posted this many, many, many pages ago.

    Second halves of recent election years:

    2022 - A short run of September shows, done by October
    2020 - Supposedly there were plans, but nothing was ever announced and it was wiped out by COVID
    2018 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2016 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2014 - An October run of shows
    2012 - Three September festivals, a Jon Tester benefit in Missoula, and an Oracle secret show in early October - Ed on the road in November and early December making up shows originally scheduled for May
    2010 - Two Bridge School dates in late October
    2008 - No Pearl Jam shows, Ed on the road in August


    Ok I stand corrected. But the routing actually confuses me more in that case.
    It is really not the odd, frankly for them, this is almost too precise given their tours usually have a couple of weird jags.

    But playing two nights in the same city and moving in what appears to be a normal linear fashion is really quite efficient given their passed one and done approach often.

    There crew are no spring chickens and neither are they, so barring something unusual in their planning they probably have their setup rigged in St Paul at the excel by 8.29, if not earlier, soundcheck on 8.30, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.3 and off to Chicago.  Rig up by morning of 9.5, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.8 and off to Indianapolis - so on an so forth.


    But from Indiana they go to Texas? That's weird routing. 
    Why? It is a 12 hour drive.  And if those are the dates that they can get back to back shows with a day off in between at venue for Ft Worth and Austin it makes sense.
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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    ComeToTX said:
    JimmyV said:
    PB11041 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    JimmyV said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    estarr31 said:
    Is it possible these cities were previously targeted as part of a larger Gigaton tour 2020/2021, preCovid? And they're catching up now? 
    Feels like they plug in well with Leg 2 last year. 
    I’ve seen this theory before but a 2nd leg in 2020 would have been election-year themed: Swing states (Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc), prob Missoula to stump for Jon Tester, places like that. If next year is indeed a new album tour those places make more sense then when it’s election time again.
    Chicago, United Center, was on the list for 2nd leg in 2020.  I had confirmation from same person in box office that gave me the September 5th and 7th dates this year.
    Fair enough, I’m certain they would have hit Chicago. But I doubt this is the same overall itinerary, just a couple overlaps. Their election year routing is one of the few touring details that is still pretty predictable 
    Not really. I posted this many, many, many pages ago.

    Second halves of recent election years:

    2022 - A short run of September shows, done by October
    2020 - Supposedly there were plans, but nothing was ever announced and it was wiped out by COVID
    2018 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2016 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2014 - An October run of shows
    2012 - Three September festivals, a Jon Tester benefit in Missoula, and an Oracle secret show in early October - Ed on the road in November and early December making up shows originally scheduled for May
    2010 - Two Bridge School dates in late October
    2008 - No Pearl Jam shows, Ed on the road in August


    Ok I stand corrected. But the routing actually confuses me more in that case.
    It is really not the odd, frankly for them, this is almost too precise given their tours usually have a couple of weird jags.

    But playing two nights in the same city and moving in what appears to be a normal linear fashion is really quite efficient given their passed one and done approach often.

    There crew are no spring chickens and neither are they, so barring something unusual in their planning they probably have their setup rigged in St Paul at the excel by 8.29, if not earlier, soundcheck on 8.30, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.3 and off to Chicago.  Rig up by morning of 9.5, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.8 and off to Indianapolis - so on an so forth.


    But from Indiana they go to Texas? That's weird routing. 
    Better than 2009 when they played 2 in LA then came to Austin before heading back to LA for 2 more shows. They’ve always toured strangely. 
    Weird routing is 2003 - draw a map for this one 4.26, 4.28, 4.29, 4.30, 5.2 and 5.3

    OR 6.29, 7.1, 7.2/3, 7.5/6, 7.8/9 
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  • estarr31
    estarr31 Posts: 628
    edited April 2023
    PB11041 said:
    JimmyV said:
    PB11041 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    JimmyV said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    estarr31 said:
    Is it possible these cities were previously targeted as part of a larger Gigaton tour 2020/2021, preCovid? And they're catching up now? 
    Feels like they plug in well with Leg 2 last year. 
    I’ve seen this theory before but a 2nd leg in 2020 would have been election-year themed: Swing states (Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc), prob Missoula to stump for Jon Tester, places like that. If next year is indeed a new album tour those places make more sense then when it’s election time again.
    Chicago, United Center, was on the list for 2nd leg in 2020.  I had confirmation from same person in box office that gave me the September 5th and 7th dates this year.
    Fair enough, I’m certain they would have hit Chicago. But I doubt this is the same overall itinerary, just a couple overlaps. Their election year routing is one of the few touring details that is still pretty predictable 
    Not really. I posted this many, many, many pages ago.

    Second halves of recent election years:

    2022 - A short run of September shows, done by October
    2020 - Supposedly there were plans, but nothing was ever announced and it was wiped out by COVID
    2018 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2016 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2014 - An October run of shows
    2012 - Three September festivals, a Jon Tester benefit in Missoula, and an Oracle secret show in early October - Ed on the road in November and early December making up shows originally scheduled for May
    2010 - Two Bridge School dates in late October
    2008 - No Pearl Jam shows, Ed on the road in August


    Ok I stand corrected. But the routing actually confuses me more in that case.
    It is really not the odd, frankly for them, this is almost too precise given their tours usually have a couple of weird jags.

    But playing two nights in the same city and moving in what appears to be a normal linear fashion is really quite efficient given their passed one and done approach often.

    There crew are no spring chickens and neither are they, so barring something unusual in their planning they probably have their setup rigged in St Paul at the excel by 8.29, if not earlier, soundcheck on 8.30, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.3 and off to Chicago.  Rig up by morning of 9.5, show day, off day, show day, breakdown on 9.8 and off to Indianapolis - so on an so forth.


    But from Indiana they go to Texas? That's weird routing. 
    Why? It is a 12 hour drive.  And if those are the dates that they can get back to back shows with a day off in between at venue for Ft Worth and Austin it makes sense.
    yeah it's kind of a straight shot down 81. Not many large cities in between (baltimore got screwed).

    EDIT, my bad was taking about Camden to Nash
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  • JimmyV
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    Weird bits of routing cherry-picked out of an extensive tour aren't going to compare with MN-IL-IN-TX then go home. That it is a twelve hour drive is part of the weirdness. That there appear to only appear to be 9 shows is part of the weirdness. That those nine shows are in only four states is part of the weirdness.
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  • CM189191
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    Go Animal said:
    CM189191 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    mace1229 said:
    This list seems really odd to me. 2 nights in cities that aren't as big as ones that got just 1 last year?
    If this truly is all there is, it will be one of the strangest tours they have ever played. 
    Not really.  There are just no east coast dates and the band is finally taking care of Texas after neglecting us for so long.  :)
    9 shows in 5 cities would be an odd tour regardless of geography 

    During their 2006 tour, they did 10 shows in 6 cities

    And 6 of those shows were opening for Tom Petty

    I wonder who Pearl Jam will be opening for on this tour? 
    PJ's grown in stature since then. They won't open for anyone save a McCartney/Starr quasi-Beatles tour. Maybe Neil, out of respect. That's about it.

    By what metric (other than longevity)? 

    Album sales have been stable, at best.


    Other side of the same coin - what big name act might be opening for Pearl Jam?
     
    ???? : Pearl Jam :: Pearl Jam : Tom Petty
  • evenflow82
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    edited April 2023
    Please no co headlining tour. 

    These locations have waited almost ten years (some more). It would be a bummer if we had to pay more money to see even less of PJ and an act we would be okay with at best.
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  • SomethingCreative
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    Go Animal said:
    CM189191 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    vedpunk said:
    JimmyV said:
    mace1229 said:
    This list seems really odd to me. 2 nights in cities that aren't as big as ones that got just 1 last year?
    If this truly is all there is, it will be one of the strangest tours they have ever played. 
    Not really.  There are just no east coast dates and the band is finally taking care of Texas after neglecting us for so long.  :)
    9 shows in 5 cities would be an odd tour regardless of geography 

    During their 2006 tour, they did 10 shows in 6 cities

    And 6 of those shows were opening for Tom Petty

    I wonder who Pearl Jam will be opening for on this tour? 
    PJ's grown in stature since then. They won't open for anyone save a McCartney/Starr quasi-Beatles tour. Maybe Neil, out of respect. That's about it.
    I don’t wanna derail the thread (lol).  But if Tom were still around, you better believe Pearl Jam would not be above co-headlining or opening for him.
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  • PB11041
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    JimmyV said:
    Weird bits of routing cherry-picked out of an extensive tour aren't going to compare with MN-IL-IN-TX then go home. That it is a twelve hour drive is part of the weirdness. That there appear to only appear to be 9 shows is part of the weirdness. That those nine shows are in only four states is part of the weirdness.
    Dude, they went from Seattle for 2 shows, to missoula for 1 show, to chicago for 2 shows, to Boston for 2 shows in 2018. 

    The point of the cherry picking is that routing matters, twenty years ago they could count on their crew to deal with the insanity of driving back and forth across destinations and overlapping because they did not have a choice if they wanted to play venue/city X based on availability.

    In this instance, 9 shows is not a lot but it is far less taxing on their crew given the routing and approach.  It is a linear trip in a fixed time frame with 4 cities getting 8 shows that cutting the setup and breakdown to a total of 5 times with Indianapolis in the mix.

    This is the most normal thing they have done in a long time, last Septembers shows are pretty decent linear path, but the shows were tight, so their crew was on the move daily.

    My guess is if this is real, it is a test run for how they might try to handle touring in their 60s.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    fall by the wayside said:
    JimmyV said:
    kmcmanus said:
    Kevinman said:
    kmcmanus said:
    estarr31 said:
    Is it possible these cities were previously targeted as part of a larger Gigaton tour 2020/2021, preCovid? And they're catching up now? 
    Feels like they plug in well with Leg 2 last year. 
    I’ve seen this theory before but a 2nd leg in 2020 would have been election-year themed: Swing states (Ohio, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc), prob Missoula to stump for Jon Tester, places like that. If next year is indeed a new album tour those places make more sense then when it’s election time again.
    Chicago, United Center, was on the list for 2nd leg in 2020.  I had confirmation from same person in box office that gave me the September 5th and 7th dates this year.
    Fair enough, I’m certain they would have hit Chicago. But I doubt this is the same overall itinerary, just a couple overlaps. Their election year routing is one of the few touring details that is still pretty predictable 
    Not really. I posted this many, many, many pages ago.

    Second halves of recent election years:

    2022 - A short run of September shows, done by October
    2020 - Supposedly there were plans, but nothing was ever announced and it was wiped out by COVID
    2018 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2016 - A few summer shows, done by September
    2014 - An October run of shows
    2012 - Three September festivals, a Jon Tester benefit in Missoula, and an Oracle secret show in early October - Ed on the road in November and early December making up shows originally scheduled for May
    2010 - Two Bridge School dates in late October
    2008 - No Pearl Jam shows, Ed on the road in August


    Yeah, it’s strange that this idea persists when the only real time a tour was geared around an election was VFC 2004. It’s usually just a show here or there like Missoula 18. 

    They did a robust rock the vote in y2k, but in August.

    It was very political,  as Ed told us to vote for Nader. Great idea.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    Would be interesting if all the gaps and off days are on account of an older, legendary co-headliner
  • GlorifiedGEE
    GlorifiedGEE Posts: 169
    I wonder if PJ has a lyric that could properly sum up my excitement and how the waiting is driving me.... crazy
    2003 - Houston, Dallas, San Antonio | 2006 - Bridge School, Las Vegas, San Fran(x3) | 2008 - EV Santa Cruz, Berkeley, MSG 2
    2010 - Bridge School | 2012 - EV Austin | 2013 - Dallas | 2018 - Rome | 2022 - Oakland Night 1
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,975
    JimmyV said:
    Weird bits of routing cherry-picked out of an extensive tour aren't going to compare with MN-IL-IN-TX then go home. That it is a twelve hour drive is part of the weirdness. That there appear to only appear to be 9 shows is part of the weirdness. That those nine shows are in only four states is part of the weirdness.

    Only 9 shows, if true, after 4 of the last 6 years featured zero headline shows (or a couple festivals) is weird

    At this point,  they might as well start labeling every tour Farewell Part 1, 2 etc. because its going to take them forever to see all their fans/markets one more time.

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