The 2023 Tour Speculation Thread - Potential Dates/Cities, Logistics/Data & Wishlists **UPDATED**

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,954
    tino_11 said:
    A question for those in the US, why do bands choose to play in baseball stadiums, rather than football stadiums? Baseball stadiums seem to have the worst set up imaginable for shows. 

    Not only are baseball stadiums the absolute worst- putting a band into an expansive outfield a mile from the seats for most-  PJ loves to play the oldest stadiums, full of beams and poles that obstruct views and ruin sound. All because the man in charge has a romantic feel for the old stadiums.

    To do a real stadium tour takes double the equipment and double the crew to account for a four day set up. To do a fair stadium tour, bands usually do an impressive light show and huge screens, which is fair to the majority of fans sitting a mile away, giving them something to look at. I never understood the allure of stadiums for bands that can pack 20k into an arena. Rammstein drew about 40k to their east coast stadium shows, but they did that because their stadium show was designed for the international dates, and it looked impressive. 
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,569
    Thinking they'll be on the South American Lolla lineups announced this week?

    Probably.


  • tino_11 said:
    A question for those in the US, why do bands choose to play in baseball stadiums, rather than football stadiums? Baseball stadiums seem to have the worst set up imaginable for shows. 
    A lot of bands can fill 40K baseball stadiums, but not 70K+ football stadiums.
  • Father Hubbard
    Father Hubbard Chicago Posts: 1,670
    Thinking they'll be on the South American Lolla lineups announced this week?
    Nevermind.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,270
    tino_11 said:
    A question for those in the US, why do bands choose to play in baseball stadiums, rather than football stadiums? Baseball stadiums seem to have the worst set up imaginable for shows. 

    Not only are baseball stadiums the absolute worst- putting a band into an expansive outfield a mile from the seats for most-  PJ loves to play the oldest stadiums, full of beams and poles that obstruct views and ruin sound. All because the man in charge has a romantic feel for the old stadiums.

    To do a real stadium tour takes double the equipment and double the crew to account for a four day set up. To do a fair stadium tour, bands usually do an impressive light show and huge screens, which is fair to the majority of fans sitting a mile away, giving them something to look at. I never understood the allure of stadiums for bands that can pack 20k into an arena. Rammstein drew about 40k to their east coast stadium shows, but they did that because their stadium show was designed for the international dates, and it looked impressive. 
    agreed....I hate the baseball stadium shows. The venues suck unless you are in GA and that even sucks. Fenway was god awful. Horrible site lines and impossible to get a fucking beer.

    But I'll still buy the fucking tickets.
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  • Indifference
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    edited October 2022
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Interesting 

    I would of put money down on that happening for sure next year. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    So no Lolla. I doubt they make the trip down there this spring without doing those so maybe SA is out for early 2023. They said in the newsletter they are looking to tour soon or something along those lines so maybe Australia is still an option or maybe we finally get a proper east coast tour. 
  • drfox
    drfox Posts: 1,484
    I thought they would play in South America too. Wondering whether as the band gets older they will mainly focus on their most popular markets of the US, Canada, U.K., Netherlands, Germany etc. We’ve already seen them sort of give up with places like Australia/NZ as they are less commercially attractive and not worth the hassle. Guaranteed to sell out shows in these core countries even if they bump up the prices significantly. 
  • Not that it benefits me but I’ve been predicting Aus/NZ.  I know it’s getting close to make an announcement but if they’re planning February that’s still 4 months away.  That’s more than enough time.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    Have you been following this band?  They just played a bunch of live dates.  What does that mean?  At least a year off. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited October 2022
    Get_Right said:
    Have you been following this band?  They just played a bunch of live dates.  What does that mean?  At least a year off. 
    The near future is not at least a year off though imo.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    edited October 2022
    Love to be wrong, but nothing is happening in the first half of 2023. Unless there is a festival. Maybe more Earthling dates.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Get_Right said:
    Love to be wrong, but nothing is happening in the first half of 2023. Unless there is a festival. Maybe more Earthling dates.
    We will see but it’s rare for them to come out and say something like that and it’s specific to Pearl Jam too. Maybe Earthlings and Pearl Jam with the  same timeline as this year for the winter/spring. 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    PJNB said:
    Get_Right said:
    Love to be wrong, but nothing is happening in the first half of 2023. Unless there is a festival. Maybe more Earthling dates.
    We will see but it’s rare for them to come out and say something like that and it’s specific to Pearl Jam too. Maybe Earthlings and Pearl Jam with the  same timeline as this year for the winter/spring. 

    They have said a lot of things over the years, not that rare. None of them come true. Hope I am wrong. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,954


    Weren't there pics of "signed contracts" posted somewhere on the porch with 2023 SA dates?
  • Get_Right said:
    PJNB said:
    Get_Right said:
    Love to be wrong, but nothing is happening in the first half of 2023. Unless there is a festival. Maybe more Earthling dates.
    We will see but it’s rare for them to come out and say something like that and it’s specific to Pearl Jam too. Maybe Earthlings and Pearl Jam with the  same timeline as this year for the winter/spring. 

    They have said a lot of things over the years, not that rare. None of them come true. Hope I am wrong. 
    There was also a clue from Dimi on FB not long ago, changed his topic from 2022 Tour to 2022-23 Tour.  Granted, Fall 2023 would still be a year away.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    Get_Right said:
    PJNB said:
    Get_Right said:
    Love to be wrong, but nothing is happening in the first half of 2023. Unless there is a festival. Maybe more Earthling dates.
    We will see but it’s rare for them to come out and say something like that and it’s specific to Pearl Jam too. Maybe Earthlings and Pearl Jam with the  same timeline as this year for the winter/spring. 

    They have said a lot of things over the years, not that rare. None of them come true. Hope I am wrong. 
    There was also a clue from Dimi on FB not long ago, changed his topic from 2022 Tour to 2022-23 Tour.  Granted, Fall 2023 would still be a year away.  

    Exactly. Ohana is likely again and that means the fall. Completely different if they manage to release an album, but if no record, a few dates in fall around a festival or a ball park.  Again, hope I am wrong and they play Hartford in March. :)
  • Again, they are 100% playing Boston, Chicago, Seattle at the very least next year. There is just no way they skip arguably their 3 biggest cities.
  • DEGBTI
    DEGBTI san diego Posts: 995
    could surprise and release new album in the spring, some summer shows including a couple ball parks and follow up with an mid/east coast fall tour