The 2023 Tour Speculation Thread - Potential Dates/Cities, Logistics/Data & Wishlists UPDATED

Weston1283 · October 2022

I think AUS/NZ is out at this point since we’re already in October

March - South America

May - Small US tour (Miami, Orlando/Tampa, Atlanta, Raleigh, DC, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit, Minneapolis, Kansas City, Dallas)

Aug/Sept - I think they go for a ballpark run to test the waters in their best markets only - Safeco, Missoula, Wrigley, Camden Yards in Baltimore, Citizens Bank in Philly, Citi Field, Fenway

Maybe AUS/NZ in early 2024

I think that at the moment, it’s much easier and makes more economic sense for them to tour in the Americas for now as others have mentioned

And I used to think a year this “big” wouldn’t be in the cards for 2023, but they do have to make up for essentially 5 years of lost income from unplanned minimal touring 2017-2021

MikeRed22 · October 2022

I have no intel, but I'm thinking (hoping at least) that Portland, OR will get a spot on the next leg. The last few shows they were teaming up with Project Red and Alano Club, both organizations out of Portland. If not there, hopefully we get Climate Pledge or T-Mobile again.

RiddledWithMetaphors · October 2022

BG196075 said:

My prediction

Safeco
Wrigley
Fenway
…
maybe
Yankee Stadium ( they had a yankee night)
Oriole Park (special place for Baltimore and Philly fans)
PNC Park (played there 2005. Satisfy an area not played in awhile )

No intel on this. But I don’t think they play PNC in Pittsburgh. I’ve been to every show in Pittsburgh since 2000 and while they may officially sell out, they’re not selling 20,000 tickets in minutes. Philadelphia would be much more likely to get the ballpark treatment I believe.

I could see Safeco, Wrigley, Fenway, Yankee’s and CBP. I get that they owe Baltimore. But again just not sure that the city is large enough to sell 40,000 tickets.

Weston1283 · October 2022

RiddledWithMetaphors said:

BG196075 said:

My prediction

Safeco
Wrigley
Fenway
…
maybe
Yankee Stadium ( they had a yankee night)
Oriole Park (special place for Baltimore and Philly fans)
PNC Park (played there 2005. Satisfy an area not played in awhile )

No intel on this. But I don’t think they play PNC in Pittsburgh. I’ve been to every show in Pittsburgh since 2000 and while they may officially sell out, they’re not selling 20,000 tickets in minutes. Philadelphia would be much more likely to get the ballpark treatment I believe.

I could see Safeco, Wrigley, Fenway, Yankee’s and CBP. I get that they owe Baltimore. But again just not sure that the city is large enough to sell 40,000 tickets.

Baltimore itself, no.

But if you remember back to 2020, Baltimore was the hardest ticket to get.

A show in Baltimore is driving/train distance from All of Virginia, DC, Philly, New York, eastern PA, etc…

I think a show at Camden Yards would sell out without much difficulty

Douglas12373 · October 2022

Baltimore was a tough ticket because a) it was a small venue for them b) it was one of 2 shows anywhere on the east coast c) it was one of the few Saturday shows and folks were planning on flying in for it. Also, if they replace a small arena show with a huge ballpark show, I'm gonna be pretty disappointed (as if anyone gives AF). But I agree a Camden show would still sell well with fans from all around the mid Atlantic coming into town for it, and other fans coming in to see them at a new venue/classic ballpark

apirk72 · October 2022

Wasnt Baltimore a smaller venue and that was why it was so tough?

Weston1283 · October 2022

Douglas12373 said:

Baltimore was a tough ticket because a) it was a small venue for them b) it was one of 2 shows anywhere on the east coast c) it was one of the few Saturday shows and folks were planning on flying in for it. Also, if they replace a small arena show with a huge ballpark show, I'm gonna be pretty disappointed (as if anyone gives AF). But I agree a Camden show would still sell well with fans from all around the mid Atlantic coming into town for it, and other fans coming in to see them at a new venue/classic ballpark

Yeah, Camden Yards is probably the only ballpark on the East coast where I’d prefer a show at the baseball stadium over an arena at this point. Like you said, an absolute classic ballpark which would be a memorable night.

GlowGirl · October 2022

Weston1283 said:

Douglas12373 said:

Baltimore was a tough ticket because a) it was a small venue for them b) it was one of 2 shows anywhere on the east coast c) it was one of the few Saturday shows and folks were planning on flying in for it. Also, if they replace a small arena show with a huge ballpark show, I'm gonna be pretty disappointed (as if anyone gives AF). But I agree a Camden show would still sell well with fans from all around the mid Atlantic coming into town for it, and other fans coming in to see them at a new venue/classic ballpark

Yeah, Camden Yards is probably the only ballpark on the East coast where I’d prefer a show at the baseball stadium over an arena at this point. Like you said, an absolute classic ballpark which would be a memorable night.

I saw Paul McCartney there. I felt really far from the stage even though I was in the lower bowl - but it is a great venue. I would see PJ there.

Douglas12373 · October 2022

Camden would be fun, but it would be perfect if they also played a close-ish arena. DC (obviously) Richmond Hampton or Philly. Thanks for accommodating, PJ

Weston1283 · October 2022

Douglas12373 said:

Camden would be fun, but it would be perfect if they also played a close-ish arena. DC (obviously) Richmond Hampton or Philly. Thanks for accommodating, PJ

https://www.wavy.com/news/could-a-bigger-norfolk-arena-survive-if-one-is-also-built-near-richmond-operator-says-it-depends-who-opens-first/

Richmond and Norfolk/Hampton could both be looking at new arenas in the next few years

demetrios · October 2022

2-feign-reluctance said:

No repeat 22’ cities! That’s my guess!

Same. But would be tough not to play in New York if they came back the East Coast .. to play some shows in New England.

RatherStarved · October 2022

Any chance we get EV at this again?

JimmyV · October 2022

apirk72 said:

Wasnt Baltimore a smaller venue and that was why it was so tough?

It was a smaller venue on a Saturday night, and the only northeast show that wasn't at MSG or the Apollo.

hihobibo · October 2022

RatherStarved said:

Any chance we get EV at this again?

Tampa is getting Innings Fest again in 2023, too. Last year had a lot of good bands on one night...if I recall it was Green Day, 311, Incubus.

DEGBTI · October 2022

RatherStarved said:

Any chance we get EV at this again?

I was thinking the same thing when i got the email. I would think it's totally possible. Went last time and it was killer.

Go Animal · October 2022

hihobibo said:

RatherStarved said:

Any chance we get EV at this again?

Tampa is getting Innings Fest again in 2023, too. Last year had a lot of good bands on one night...if I recall it was Green Day, 311, Incubus.

No idea about Tempe, but I've got my ear to the ground for Tampa...

RatherStarved · October 2022

DEGBTI said:

RatherStarved said:

Any chance we get EV at this again?

I was thinking the same thing when i got the email. I would think it's totally possible. Went last time and it was killer.

I was as well. It was indeed really good. Not to mention a great excuse for a winter escape.

Get_Right · October 2022

I expect nothing from the band for the first six months of 2023. And I get a kick out of reading the posts from people in tertiary markets. They are not playing Maine! Of course, now that I wrote that, they just might.

E.K · October 2022

drfox said:

My instinct is there will never be another Australian tour - too far and no longer makes commercial sense to the band

I agree about Pearl Jam but think Eddie and the Earthlings could come down here and do some festivals. There is one I go to in Byron Bay that would be perfect for them.

Go Animal · October 2022

Go Animal said:

So for 2023, if a similar scenario plays out, I don't see them hitting Canada for leg 1 since all 3 of those cities were tagged in 2022. If they do, it'll most likely be on the Western side of Canada (more on that later). For this model/pitch, I was* using 2023 New Orleans Jazz Festival (also a 2016 stop) as a tentpole, but they aren't in the lineup.

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.
If this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch
Prospective 2023 Tour Leg 1, V.1 (aka "We Could All Use a Redux of the Last 7 Years")

1. Ft. Lauderdale, FL - FLA Live Arena (formerly BB&T Center)
current open dates: 04/01 - 04/03, 04/05, 04/07 - 04/09, 04/11 & 04/12, 04/14 - 04/30/23
- FtL could be a good spot to warm up, just like 2016. Taking the Tortuga Festival out of the mix since the headliners are all country. If they skip FtL, it's possible they could do 2 in Miami??

2. Miami, FL - FTX Arena (formerly American Airlines Arena), ASM Global
current open dates: 04/02 - 04/08, 04/10 - 04/13, and 04/16 - 04/27/23
- Miami is a no-brainer. High energy crowd, tons of money to be made, and a happy promoter. The state of Florida, for all it's faults, is Pearl Jam country. The state is a red mess with blue freckles, and we need the boys back ASAP. The Miami Heat season ends on 04/09 with a home game. If they make the playoffs (50/50 chance), then that would narrow the field of possible dates. I suppose they could get Zo out of retirement?

3. Tampa, FL - Amalie Arena (formerly St. Pete Times Forum) tour stop for 22+ years, always a classic.
current open dates: 04/02 - 04/05 ,04/07, 04/09 & 04/10, 04/12, 04/14 - 04/20, 04/22 - 04/29/23
- Miami might bring the heat, but the best setlists in Florida happen in Tampa. Recently booked events: NCAA basketball, 98 Rockfest & New Edition.

4. Orlando, FL - Amway Center (hey, it's on the way) - last tour stop in Orlando was a private show at the House of Blues in 2003
current open dates, Amway Center: 04/03, 04/05, 04/07 - 04/13, 04/15 - 04/18, 04/20 - 04/27, 04/29 & 04/30/23
House of Blues, Lake Buena Vista: 04/02 - 04/07, 04/09 - 04/11, 04/13, 04/16 - 04/19, 04/21 - 04/25, 04/27 & 04/29/23
-- all other venues have an open schedule --

- Orlando is the most progressive city in Florida, and even though the Amway Center is owned by the DeVos family, I'd love to see them play there & just absolutely trash them (and Amway itself, lol). Other possible venues:
ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex (Lake Buena Vista) - capacity; 7,500 seats, 3,000-3,500 field capacity = 10,500-11,000
Addition Financial Arena (UCF) - capacity: 9,400
Silver Spurs Arena (Kissimmee) - capacity: 8,000 (site of their VFC concert in 2004, also part of the ASM Global network)
House of Blues Orlando (Lake Buena Vista, 10C show?) - capacity: 2,500+ (site of their exclusive show that streamed 20 years ago on RealPlayer, live in 2003)

5. Jacksonville, FL - Vystar Veterans Memorial Arena, ASM Global
current open dates: 04/03 - 04/06, 04/09 - 04/15, 04/17 - 04/28, 04/30 - 05/03/23
- another 2016 stop, and a good venue to cap off what could be a hell of a Florida run (unless they go to Pensacola, or Mobile... both of which have an ASM venue).

6. Pensacola, FL - Pensacola Bay Center, or Mobile, AL - Mobile Civic Center, both ASM Global, around 10,000+ ea.
current open dates, Pensacola: 04/01 - 04/06, 04/10 - 04/14, 04/16 & 04/17, 04/19 - 05/12/23
current open dates, Mobile: 04/01 - 04/05, 04/08 - 04/13, 04/16 - 05/13/23
- I just like picking a Moline, or Fresno lol. Jeff does, too! Don't sleep on Mobile, they got Billy Strings for 04/14 & 04/15

7. New Orleans, LA - Smoothie King Center, (No Jazz Festival this year)
current open dates, Smoothie King Center: 04/02 & 04/03, 04/09 - 05/16/23
- the boys were spicy in Nawlins back in 2016! No reason why they wouldn't, or couldn't spice it up again in 2023.

8. Atlanta, GA - State Farm Arena, or Alpharetta, GA - Ameris Bank Amphitheatre (formerly Verizon Amphitheatre)
current open dates, State Farm Arena: 04/03 & 04/04, 04/06, 04/08 - 04/25, 04/28 - 05/17/23
current open dates, Amphitheatre: all of April, 1st half of May
- PJ haven't played Atlanta in almost 10 years. Is it time to return? Especially if Stacey Abrams win's the Governor's chair?? If not the 2016 path took them from Jacksonville to Greenville, SC to Hampton, VA back to Columbia, SC then down to NOLA.

9. Greenville, SC - Bon Secours Arena
current open dates: 04/01 - 04/04, 04/06 - 04/21, 04/23 - 04/26, 04/28 - 05/12, 05/14 - 05/17/23
- Ah, Greenville. My favorite album was played there in it's entirety in 2016 (GO TO EVERY SHOW, lol).

10. Charlotte, NC - Spectrum Center, or Raleigh, NC - PNC Arena
current open dates, Spectrum Center: 04/01 - 05/20/23
current open dates, PNC Arena: 04/03, 04/05 - 04/10, 04/12 - 04/15, 04/17 - 05/09, 05/11 - 05/18/23
- time to make-up for Raleigh? Or skip it & start over fresh in Charlotte. Both have high-capacity arenas, and they're both on the way to Virginia & MD.

11. Hampton, VA - Hampton Coliseum (classic venue), or Charlottesville, VA - John Paul Jones Arena, ASM Global
current open dates, Hampton Coliseum: 04/01 - 05/13, 05/15 - 05/19/23
current open dates, John Paul Jones: 04/01 - 05/19/23
- Hampton was a 2016 stop, and is a legendary music venue, but I wouldn't be surprised if the band played a nearby ASM arena instead (no relation to the Led Zeppelin bassist, lol).

12 (and 13?). Baltimore, MD - Oriole Park at Camden Yards, or CFG Bank Arena (formerly Royal Farms Arena)
current open dates, Camden Yards: 04/01 - 04/05, 04/14 - 04/20, and 04/27 - 05/07, 05/19 - 05/25/23; gotta play two!
current open dates, CFG Bank Arena: 04/01 - 04/06, Boss has the 7th, 04/08 - 04/14, 04/16 - 04/21, 04/23 - 04/27, 04/29 - 05/08, 05/10 - 05/12, 05/15 - 05/25/23; most likely a 1-nighter, with high demand

- - possible venues:
Oriole Park at Camden Yards, Baltimore, MD (another legendary ballpark) 45,971
Merriweather Post Ampitheatre, Columbia, MD (would be legendary) 19,319
Baltimore Arena/Royal Farms Arena (the cancelled 2020/2022 show, yeah... it's a hornet's nest, but let's help break in the new arena, yeah?) 14,000
:end of Leg 1:
Fingers crossed!

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Prospective 2023 Tour Leg 2, V.1 (aka "The Kings of the North")

1. Chicago, IL - United Center or Lollapalooza Chicago - Grant Park (it would be Sat. 08/05 or Sun. 08/06)

current open dates: 08/01 - 08/08, 08/11 - 08/14, 08/16 - 08/26, 08/28 - 09/16/2023

- all sources say Wrigley isn't happening this year - but ya never know about Lollapalooza...

2. Moline, IL - Vibrant Arena (formerly the Tax Slayer Centre)

current open dates: 08/01 - 09/16/23

- They said they'd be back! What better time than now??

3. Milwaukee, WI - Fiserv Forum (Yieldwaukee)

current open dates: 08/01/23 - 09/12, 09/14 - 09/16/23

- a little back track, maybe a small gig in Chicago, but then on to Motor City? Who wants the Vic II??

4. Detroit, MI - Pine Knob Music Theatre (originally DTE Energy Music Theatre, outdoors), or Little Caesars Arena (Pistons)
current open Pine Knob dates: 08/01 - 08/25, 08/27 & 08/28, 08/31 - 09/16/23
current open pizza, pizza dates: 08/01 - 08/04, 08/06 - 08/12, 08/14 & 08/15, 08/17 & 08/18, 08/20 - 08/25, 08/27 & 08/28, 08/31 & 09/01, 09/03 - 09/12, 09/14 & 09/15/23

- as stated previously, the Motor City beckons!

5. Cleveland, OH - Progressive Field, or Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse (home of the Cavs)
current open Progressive dates: 08/01 - 08/03, 08/11 - 08/16, 08/25 - 08/31, 09/07 - 09/14/23

current open Fieldhouse dates: 08/03 - 09/16/23.

- Big demand for PJ in Ohio. While Toledo has an ASM venue, I can see the band considering the former Indians' ballpark as a goodwill gesture for the team changing their name. So, this is my dark horse ballpark pick!

6. Buffalo, NY - KeyBank Center (formerly the First Niagara Center)
current open dates: all of August, first 2 weeks of Sept.
- Always a good show in the other Queen City. If I'm not mistaken, their '13 show here was as close as we've gotten to all of Lightning Bolt (nine tracks!) Again, all contingent on them skipping Brooklyn/Bronx, or stopping there for Leg 1.

7. Albany, NY - MVP Arena (formerly Pepsi Arena) Run by ASM Global

current open dates: all of August, first week of Sept.

- Albany?? Always expect the unexpected with this band. Especially when they go off the beaten path & keep their promoters happy. Granted, I only include Albany here since I mapped out Brooklyn/Bronx. This might not play out in other scenarios.

8. Hartford, CT - Xfinity Center Ampitheatre (formerly Dodge Music Center), or XL Center (formerly the Hartford Civic Center)

current open dates: all of August, first 2 weeks of Sept.

- Hartford. Like Tampa, Hartford brings killer setlists & high energy. The band loves coming here, and if you've never heard them, seek out the trifecta of Hartford '08, '10 & '13. If they play Xfinity, that place is bigger than Camden. 30,000 tickets, easy.

9. New York, NY - Yankee Stadium (2 nights), or Barclays Center (Brooklyn)
current open Stadium dates: 08/07 - 08/17, 08/25 - 09/02, 09/11 - 09/17, 09/28 - 10/03/23
current open Barclay dates: 08/01 - 08/05, 08/07 - 08/10, 08/12 - 08/27, 08/29 - 08/31, 09/02 - 09/06, 09/08 & 09/09, 09/11 - 10/03/23
- Pearl Jam Day at Yankee Stadium wasn't just some random occurrence. I'm guessing they've had talks, so I'm listing the available dates here. That being said, the safe choice is Barclays Center. ASM Global, proven market.

10. Boston, MA - Fenway Park (2 nights), or TD Garden (home of the Celtics)
current open Fenway dates: 08/20 & 08/22, 08/21 & 08/23, 08/22 & 08/24, 08/31 & 09/02, 09/01 & 09/03, 09/02 & 09/04, 09/03 & 09/05, 09/04 & 09/06, 09/05 & 09/07, 09/15 & 09/17, 09/28 & 09/30, 09/29 & 10/01, 09/30 & 10/02, 10/01 & 10/03
current open TD Garden dates: 08/01 - 08/04, 08/06 - 08/29, 09/01 & 09/02, 09/04 - 09/18, 09/20 - 10/03/23
- Don't know if the band is ever going back to Mansfield, but I won't write it off 100%. If they ever go back, expect another epic 2-nighter. That being said, I think the money is on Fenway, or TD Garden.

Every show is a gift.

:end of Leg 2:

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