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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
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    Pfizer says tweaked COVID-19 shots boost omicron protection
    By LAURAN NEERGAARD
    Today

    Pfizer announced Saturday that tweaking its COVID-19 vaccine to better target the omicron variant is safe and works — just days before regulators debate whether to offer Americans updated booster shots this fall.

    The vaccines currently used in the U.S. still offer strong protection against severe COVID-19 disease and death -- especially if people have gotten a booster dose. But those vaccines target the original coronavirus strain and their effectiveness against any infection dropped markedly when the super-contagious omicron mutant emerged.

    Now with omicron’s even more transmissible relatives spreading widely, the Food and Drug Administration is considering ordering a recipe change for the vaccines made by both Pfizer and rival Moderna in hopes that modified boosters could better protect against another COVID-19 surge expected this fall and winter.

    Pfizer and its partner BioNTech studied two different ways of updating their shots -- targeting just omicron, or a combination booster that adds omicron protection to the original vaccine. They also tested whether to keep today’s standard dosage -- 30 micrograms -- or to double the shots’ strength.

    In a study of more than 1,200 middle-aged and older adults who’d already had three vaccine doses, Pfizer said both booster approaches spurred a substantial jump in omicron-fighting antibodies.

    “Based on these data, we believe we have two very strong omicron-adapted candidates,” Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said in a statement.

    Pfizer’s omicron-only booster sparked the strongest immune response against that variant.

    But many experts say combination shots may be the best approach because they would retain the proven benefits of the original COVID-19 vaccine while adding new protection against omicron. And Pfizer said a month after people received its combo shot, they had a 9 to 11-fold increase in omicron-fighting antibodies. That’s more than 1.5 times better than another dose of the original vaccine.

    And importantly, preliminary lab studies show the tweaked shots also produce antibodies capable of fighting omicron’s genetically distinct relatives named BA.4 and BA.5, although those levels weren’t nearly as high.

    Moderna recently announced similar results from tests of its combination shot, what scientists call a “bivalent” vaccine.

    The studies weren’t designed to track how well updated boosters prevented COVID-19 cases. Nor is it clear how long any added protection would last.

    continues....



    This is silly. Omicron will be long gone and replaced by some new variant by the time they make updated vaccines available to public. 
    If only researchers, scientists and the FDA had your level of logic, experience and foresight. 
    I admire your unconditional or fanatical level of support despite current infection rate per vaccinated individual. 
    Where did I declare fanatical support? I'm just curious why you think you know better.  That's really hilarious.  No one said you have to take it.  
    Please. You were very clear on mandatory vaccinations. 
    Evidently I was so clear that you've already mistated my position. 

    Drug companies develop treatments for diseases far less common and dangerous than Omnicron. But you knew this since you've been an immunology expert for two years now.
    Expert? Your condescending tone suggest superior level of expertise backed by proper research from "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" playbook. 
    Over a million Americans dead, about 400k of them from Delta which was when Biden made those remarks.  Over a hundred years later after the Spanish Flu and we still make new vaccines every year to protect the vulnerable, and you are scoffing at scientists making vaccines two years after this one.  I don't have superior knowledge, I have common sense and understanding of history.  
    You made a great point - over 100 years after Spanish Flu and no effective flu vaccine in sight. 
    mrussel, you are wasting your time with this idiocy. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
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    mickeyrat said:

     
    Pfizer says tweaked COVID-19 shots boost omicron protection
    By LAURAN NEERGAARD
    Today

    Pfizer announced Saturday that tweaking its COVID-19 vaccine to better target the omicron variant is safe and works — just days before regulators debate whether to offer Americans updated booster shots this fall.

    The vaccines currently used in the U.S. still offer strong protection against severe COVID-19 disease and death -- especially if people have gotten a booster dose. But those vaccines target the original coronavirus strain and their effectiveness against any infection dropped markedly when the super-contagious omicron mutant emerged.

    Now with omicron’s even more transmissible relatives spreading widely, the Food and Drug Administration is considering ordering a recipe change for the vaccines made by both Pfizer and rival Moderna in hopes that modified boosters could better protect against another COVID-19 surge expected this fall and winter.

    Pfizer and its partner BioNTech studied two different ways of updating their shots -- targeting just omicron, or a combination booster that adds omicron protection to the original vaccine. They also tested whether to keep today’s standard dosage -- 30 micrograms -- or to double the shots’ strength.

    In a study of more than 1,200 middle-aged and older adults who’d already had three vaccine doses, Pfizer said both booster approaches spurred a substantial jump in omicron-fighting antibodies.

    “Based on these data, we believe we have two very strong omicron-adapted candidates,” Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said in a statement.

    Pfizer’s omicron-only booster sparked the strongest immune response against that variant.

    But many experts say combination shots may be the best approach because they would retain the proven benefits of the original COVID-19 vaccine while adding new protection against omicron. And Pfizer said a month after people received its combo shot, they had a 9 to 11-fold increase in omicron-fighting antibodies. That’s more than 1.5 times better than another dose of the original vaccine.

    And importantly, preliminary lab studies show the tweaked shots also produce antibodies capable of fighting omicron’s genetically distinct relatives named BA.4 and BA.5, although those levels weren’t nearly as high.

    Moderna recently announced similar results from tests of its combination shot, what scientists call a “bivalent” vaccine.

    The studies weren’t designed to track how well updated boosters prevented COVID-19 cases. Nor is it clear how long any added protection would last.

    continues....



    This is silly. Omicron will be long gone and replaced by some new variant by the time they make updated vaccines available to public. 
    If only researchers, scientists and the FDA had your level of logic, experience and foresight. 
    I admire your unconditional or fanatical level of support despite current infection rate per vaccinated individual. 
    Where did I declare fanatical support? I'm just curious why you think you know better.  That's really hilarious.  No one said you have to take it.  
    Please. You were very clear on mandatory vaccinations. 
    Evidently I was so clear that you've already mistated my position. 

    Drug companies develop treatments for diseases far less common and dangerous than Omnicron. But you knew this since you've been an immunology expert for two years now.
    Expert? Your condescending tone suggest superior level of expertise backed by proper research from "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" playbook. 
    Over a million Americans dead, about 400k of them from Delta which was when Biden made those remarks.  Over a hundred years later after the Spanish Flu and we still make new vaccines every year to protect the vulnerable, and you are scoffing at scientists making vaccines two years after this one.  I don't have superior knowledge, I have common sense and understanding of history.  
    You made a great point - over 100 years after Spanish Flu and no effective flu vaccine in sight. 
    mrussel, you are wasting your time with this idiocy. 
    Mob is back. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    AW124797 said:
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    mickeyrat said:

     
    Pfizer says tweaked COVID-19 shots boost omicron protection
    By LAURAN NEERGAARD
    Today

    Pfizer announced Saturday that tweaking its COVID-19 vaccine to better target the omicron variant is safe and works — just days before regulators debate whether to offer Americans updated booster shots this fall.

    The vaccines currently used in the U.S. still offer strong protection against severe COVID-19 disease and death -- especially if people have gotten a booster dose. But those vaccines target the original coronavirus strain and their effectiveness against any infection dropped markedly when the super-contagious omicron mutant emerged.

    Now with omicron’s even more transmissible relatives spreading widely, the Food and Drug Administration is considering ordering a recipe change for the vaccines made by both Pfizer and rival Moderna in hopes that modified boosters could better protect against another COVID-19 surge expected this fall and winter.

    Pfizer and its partner BioNTech studied two different ways of updating their shots -- targeting just omicron, or a combination booster that adds omicron protection to the original vaccine. They also tested whether to keep today’s standard dosage -- 30 micrograms -- or to double the shots’ strength.

    In a study of more than 1,200 middle-aged and older adults who’d already had three vaccine doses, Pfizer said both booster approaches spurred a substantial jump in omicron-fighting antibodies.

    “Based on these data, we believe we have two very strong omicron-adapted candidates,” Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said in a statement.

    Pfizer’s omicron-only booster sparked the strongest immune response against that variant.

    But many experts say combination shots may be the best approach because they would retain the proven benefits of the original COVID-19 vaccine while adding new protection against omicron. And Pfizer said a month after people received its combo shot, they had a 9 to 11-fold increase in omicron-fighting antibodies. That’s more than 1.5 times better than another dose of the original vaccine.

    And importantly, preliminary lab studies show the tweaked shots also produce antibodies capable of fighting omicron’s genetically distinct relatives named BA.4 and BA.5, although those levels weren’t nearly as high.

    Moderna recently announced similar results from tests of its combination shot, what scientists call a “bivalent” vaccine.

    The studies weren’t designed to track how well updated boosters prevented COVID-19 cases. Nor is it clear how long any added protection would last.

    continues....



    This is silly. Omicron will be long gone and replaced by some new variant by the time they make updated vaccines available to public. 
    If only researchers, scientists and the FDA had your level of logic, experience and foresight. 
    I admire your unconditional or fanatical level of support despite current infection rate per vaccinated individual. 
    Where did I declare fanatical support? I'm just curious why you think you know better.  That's really hilarious.  No one said you have to take it.  
    Please. You were very clear on mandatory vaccinations. 
    Evidently I was so clear that you've already mistated my position. 

    Drug companies develop treatments for diseases far less common and dangerous than Omnicron. But you knew this since you've been an immunology expert for two years now.
    Expert? Your condescending tone suggest superior level of expertise backed by proper research from "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" playbook. 
    Over a million Americans dead, about 400k of them from Delta which was when Biden made those remarks.  Over a hundred years later after the Spanish Flu and we still make new vaccines every year to protect the vulnerable, and you are scoffing at scientists making vaccines two years after this one.  I don't have superior knowledge, I have common sense and understanding of history.  
    And 12,000 more dead since May 22nd when we hit a million. Seems Darwin is alive and well.
    Unfortunately, mostly obese or senior home residents or underlying conditions. Most with covid and not from covid. 
    And really, who cares about obese people, senior home residents, or people with underlying conditions?

    This is the same selfish statement people have made for two years now. If you can't be bothered to take something innocuous for the clearly greater good, and try to make counter-arguments about deaths during a fucking pandemic, I don't really give a shit what you have to say - your opinion is worthless to me. Happy trolling, I hope it fills some sort of deep void in your life.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    AMEN ben. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754
    benjs said:
    AW124797 said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    AW124797 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AW124797 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:

     
    Pfizer says tweaked COVID-19 shots boost omicron protection
    By LAURAN NEERGAARD
    Today

    Pfizer announced Saturday that tweaking its COVID-19 vaccine to better target the omicron variant is safe and works — just days before regulators debate whether to offer Americans updated booster shots this fall.

    The vaccines currently used in the U.S. still offer strong protection against severe COVID-19 disease and death -- especially if people have gotten a booster dose. But those vaccines target the original coronavirus strain and their effectiveness against any infection dropped markedly when the super-contagious omicron mutant emerged.

    Now with omicron’s even more transmissible relatives spreading widely, the Food and Drug Administration is considering ordering a recipe change for the vaccines made by both Pfizer and rival Moderna in hopes that modified boosters could better protect against another COVID-19 surge expected this fall and winter.

    Pfizer and its partner BioNTech studied two different ways of updating their shots -- targeting just omicron, or a combination booster that adds omicron protection to the original vaccine. They also tested whether to keep today’s standard dosage -- 30 micrograms -- or to double the shots’ strength.

    In a study of more than 1,200 middle-aged and older adults who’d already had three vaccine doses, Pfizer said both booster approaches spurred a substantial jump in omicron-fighting antibodies.

    “Based on these data, we believe we have two very strong omicron-adapted candidates,” Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said in a statement.

    Pfizer’s omicron-only booster sparked the strongest immune response against that variant.

    But many experts say combination shots may be the best approach because they would retain the proven benefits of the original COVID-19 vaccine while adding new protection against omicron. And Pfizer said a month after people received its combo shot, they had a 9 to 11-fold increase in omicron-fighting antibodies. That’s more than 1.5 times better than another dose of the original vaccine.

    And importantly, preliminary lab studies show the tweaked shots also produce antibodies capable of fighting omicron’s genetically distinct relatives named BA.4 and BA.5, although those levels weren’t nearly as high.

    Moderna recently announced similar results from tests of its combination shot, what scientists call a “bivalent” vaccine.

    The studies weren’t designed to track how well updated boosters prevented COVID-19 cases. Nor is it clear how long any added protection would last.

    continues....



    This is silly. Omicron will be long gone and replaced by some new variant by the time they make updated vaccines available to public. 
    If only researchers, scientists and the FDA had your level of logic, experience and foresight. 
    I admire your unconditional or fanatical level of support despite current infection rate per vaccinated individual. 
    Where did I declare fanatical support? I'm just curious why you think you know better.  That's really hilarious.  No one said you have to take it.  
    Please. You were very clear on mandatory vaccinations. 
    Evidently I was so clear that you've already mistated my position. 

    Drug companies develop treatments for diseases far less common and dangerous than Omnicron. But you knew this since you've been an immunology expert for two years now.
    Expert? Your condescending tone suggest superior level of expertise backed by proper research from "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" playbook. 
    Over a million Americans dead, about 400k of them from Delta which was when Biden made those remarks.  Over a hundred years later after the Spanish Flu and we still make new vaccines every year to protect the vulnerable, and you are scoffing at scientists making vaccines two years after this one.  I don't have superior knowledge, I have common sense and understanding of history.  
    And 12,000 more dead since May 22nd when we hit a million. Seems Darwin is alive and well.
    Unfortunately, mostly obese or senior home residents or underlying conditions. Most with covid and not from covid. 
    And really, who cares about obese people, senior home residents, or people with underlying conditions?

    This is the same selfish statement people have made for two years now. If you can't be bothered to take something innocuous for the clearly greater good, and try to make counter-arguments about deaths during a fucking pandemic, I don't really give a shit what you have to say - your opinion is worthless to me. Happy trolling, I hope it fills some sort of deep void in your life.
    +1
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    AW124797 said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    AW124797 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    AW124797 said:
    mickeyrat said:

     
    Pfizer says tweaked COVID-19 shots boost omicron protection
    By LAURAN NEERGAARD
    Today

    Pfizer announced Saturday that tweaking its COVID-19 vaccine to better target the omicron variant is safe and works — just days before regulators debate whether to offer Americans updated booster shots this fall.

    The vaccines currently used in the U.S. still offer strong protection against severe COVID-19 disease and death -- especially if people have gotten a booster dose. But those vaccines target the original coronavirus strain and their effectiveness against any infection dropped markedly when the super-contagious omicron mutant emerged.

    Now with omicron’s even more transmissible relatives spreading widely, the Food and Drug Administration is considering ordering a recipe change for the vaccines made by both Pfizer and rival Moderna in hopes that modified boosters could better protect against another COVID-19 surge expected this fall and winter.

    Pfizer and its partner BioNTech studied two different ways of updating their shots -- targeting just omicron, or a combination booster that adds omicron protection to the original vaccine. They also tested whether to keep today’s standard dosage -- 30 micrograms -- or to double the shots’ strength.

    In a study of more than 1,200 middle-aged and older adults who’d already had three vaccine doses, Pfizer said both booster approaches spurred a substantial jump in omicron-fighting antibodies.

    “Based on these data, we believe we have two very strong omicron-adapted candidates,” Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said in a statement.

    Pfizer’s omicron-only booster sparked the strongest immune response against that variant.

    But many experts say combination shots may be the best approach because they would retain the proven benefits of the original COVID-19 vaccine while adding new protection against omicron. And Pfizer said a month after people received its combo shot, they had a 9 to 11-fold increase in omicron-fighting antibodies. That’s more than 1.5 times better than another dose of the original vaccine.

    And importantly, preliminary lab studies show the tweaked shots also produce antibodies capable of fighting omicron’s genetically distinct relatives named BA.4 and BA.5, although those levels weren’t nearly as high.

    Moderna recently announced similar results from tests of its combination shot, what scientists call a “bivalent” vaccine.

    The studies weren’t designed to track how well updated boosters prevented COVID-19 cases. Nor is it clear how long any added protection would last.

    continues....



    This is silly. Omicron will be long gone and replaced by some new variant by the time they make updated vaccines available to public. 
    If only researchers, scientists and the FDA had your level of logic, experience and foresight. 
    I admire your unconditional or fanatical level of support despite current infection rate per vaccinated individual. 
    Where did I declare fanatical support? I'm just curious why you think you know better.  That's really hilarious.  No one said you have to take it.  
    Please. You were very clear on mandatory vaccinations. 
    Evidently I was so clear that you've already mistated my position. 

    Drug companies develop treatments for diseases far less common and dangerous than Omnicron. But you knew this since you've been an immunology expert for two years now.
    Expert? Your condescending tone suggest superior level of expertise backed by proper research from "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" playbook. 
    Over a million Americans dead, about 400k of them from Delta which was when Biden made those remarks.  Over a hundred years later after the Spanish Flu and we still make new vaccines every year to protect the vulnerable, and you are scoffing at scientists making vaccines two years after this one.  I don't have superior knowledge, I have common sense and understanding of history.  
    And 12,000 more dead since May 22nd when we hit a million. Seems Darwin is alive and well.
    Unfortunately, mostly obese or senior home residents or underlying conditions. Most with covid and not from covid. 
    That's why the HIV cure is such a farce.  No one dies from HIV, they die with it. You're so right again.  All this whining since the 80s for nothing. 
    As if covid=HIV? Makes sense. Another top notch expert argument. 
    You're using the same stupid logic.  People don't die from AIDS, they die from complications from AIDS.  People don't die from Covid, they got covid with a co-morbidity.  Never mind that almost 50% of Americans have one.  We don't need something that can help 50% of the population.  Not nearly enough to make it worthwhile.  
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    Dont feed the trolls


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  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 762
    Happy trolling? Haha. I made one comment and was instantly trolled by Mr Expert and, as usual, followed by the Angry Mob. Can't have a dfferent opinion or a civil debate here. Pure lunacy and entertainment. I can imagine each topic being discussed in the same manner on this forum. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,011
    AW124797 said:
    Happy trolling? Haha. I made one comment and was instantly trolled by Mr Expert and, as usual, followed by the Angry Mob. Can't have a dfferent opinion or a civil debate here. Pure lunacy and entertainment. I can imagine each topic being discussed in the same manner on this forum. 
    Except you didn't offer any evidence or anything to debate. Just some contrarian belief not backed by history or facts. Make an intelligent post and you might get a different response. Going to advocate for herd immunity?  Let's hear your argument. It should be entertaining.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    AW124797 said:
    Happy trolling? Haha. I made one comment and was instantly trolled by Mr Expert and, as usual, followed by the Angry Mob. Can't have a dfferent opinion or a civil debate here. Pure lunacy and entertainment. I can imagine each topic being discussed in the same manner on this forum. 
    Because your opinion is that same tired old dance from the last two years from the "vaccines don't work" crowd. it's ignorant and/or selfish simply because you a) don't grasp the science and/or 2) don't care about others this may affect. 

    science evolves with knowlege. try it. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,754

    If you're dismissing over a million deaths (just in the US alone) because the victims were overweight, elderly or had underlying conditions, you're not here for a civil debate. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    I don't understand why anyone is bothering with this universal influenza vaccine.  The flu is only risky to young children, older people and people with co-morbidities.  So call it 50% of the population.  I'm not really concerned about them.  Seems like a waste of time for me personally.  Which is my entire frame of reference.   https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/3542699-us-begins-testing-a-universal-flu-vaccine/
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    mrussel1 said:
    I don't understand why anyone is bothering with this universal influenza vaccine.  The flu is only risky to young children, older people and people with co-morbidities.  So call it 50% of the population.  I'm not really concerned about them.  Seems like a waste of time for me personally.  Which is my entire frame of reference.   https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/3542699-us-begins-testing-a-universal-flu-vaccine/

    (Looks at checklist). Well, these don't apply to me so I don't care. Of course I hope to be an older person one day, so it's kind of a dilemma for what to do for the people that matter (i.e., me). Maybe I'll start caring with enough lead time so things are going good by the time I become an older person. Not there yet though, so in looking out for #1, I don't care and you should not, either.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,328
    What the BA.5 Subvariant Could Mean for the United States https://nyti.ms/3Ayrgia
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  • hedonist
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    Screw the FDA. They don’t actually care about the people; it’s more about kickbacks and their questionable (to put it lightly) relationship with the Pharm industry.

    Fuck em. 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,210
    hedonist said:
    Screw the FDA. They don’t actually care about the people; it’s more about kickbacks and their questionable (to put it lightly) relationship with the Pharm industry.

    Fuck em. 
    Yet they seem shocked that nobody trusts them anymore. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    hedonist said:
    Screw the FDA. They don’t actually care about the people; it’s more about kickbacks and their questionable (to put it lightly) relationship with the Pharm industry.

    Fuck em. 
    Kickbacks?  Have any examples of kickbacks?