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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,405
    edited June 2022
    AW124797 said:
    This is silly. Omicron will be long gone and replaced by some new variant by the time they make updated vaccines available to public. 
    If only researchers, scientists and the FDA had your level of logic, experience and foresight. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    mrussel1 said:
    If only researchers, scientists and the FDA had your level of logic, experience and foresight. 
    I admire your unconditional or fanatical level of support despite current infection rate per vaccinated individual. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,405
    AW124797 said:
    I admire your unconditional or fanatical level of support despite current infection rate per vaccinated individual. 
    Where did I declare fanatical support? I'm just curious why you think you know better.  That's really hilarious.  No one said you have to take it.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,699
    mrussel1 said:
    Where did I declare fanatical support? I'm just curious why you think you know better.  That's really hilarious.  No one said you have to take it.  

    Its not like the current strains aren't variants of Omicron or anything.
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  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    mrussel1 said:
    Where did I declare fanatical support? I'm just curious why you think you know better.  That's really hilarious.  No one said you have to take it.  
    Please. You were very clear on mandatory vaccinations. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    mickeyrat said:

    Its not like the current strains aren't variants of Omicron or anything.
    It's not like every new wave is of the current variant. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,405
    AW124797 said:
    Please. You were very clear on mandatory vaccinations. 
    Evidently I was so clear that you've already mistated my position. 

    Drug companies develop treatments for diseases far less common and dangerous than Omnicron. But you knew this since you've been an immunology expert for two years now.
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,625
    edited June 2022
    I had not planned on getting a booster but I am required to in order to get into Amsterdam. Fingers crossed I have no side affects. I have a shit ton going on the week I am getting it. I did not have much from the first two shots so hoping I react the same. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    mrussel1 said:
    Evidently I was so clear that you've already mistated my position. 

    Drug companies develop treatments for diseases far less common and dangerous than Omnicron. But you knew this since you've been an immunology expert for two years now.
    Expert? Your condescending tone suggest superior level of expertise backed by proper research from "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" playbook. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,555
    AW124797 said:
    Expert? Your condescending tone suggest superior level of expertise backed by proper research from "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" playbook. 
    “Pandemic of the Unvaxxed playbook?” I’d love to read that Qnovel. Link?
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  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    “Pandemic of the Unvaxxed playbook?” I’d love to read that Qnovel. Link?
    Don't be silly. It's your favorite.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/09/09/remarks-by-president-biden-on-fighting-the-covid-19-pandemic-3/

    Aged very well. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,555
    AW124797 said:
    Don't be silly. It's your favorite.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/09/09/remarks-by-president-biden-on-fighting-the-covid-19-pandemic-3/

    Aged very well. 
    Like a fine bottle of wine.

    What is added by this report?

    In 25 U.S. jurisdictions, decreases in case incidence rate ratios for unvaccinated versus fully vaccinated persons with and without booster vaccine doses were observed when the Omicron variant emerged in December 2021. Protection against infection and death during the Delta-predominant period and against infection during Omicron emergence were higher among booster vaccine dose recipients, especially among persons aged 50–64 and ≥65 years.

    What are the implications for public health practice?

    COVID-19 vaccination protected against SARS-CoV-2 infection, even as the Omicron variant became predominant. All eligible persons should stay up to date with COVID-19 vaccination.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,405
    AW124797 said:
    Expert? Your condescending tone suggest superior level of expertise backed by proper research from "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated" playbook. 
    Over a million Americans dead, about 400k of them from Delta which was when Biden made those remarks.  Over a hundred years later after the Spanish Flu and we still make new vaccines every year to protect the vulnerable, and you are scoffing at scientists making vaccines two years after this one.  I don't have superior knowledge, I have common sense and understanding of history.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,555
    mrussel1 said:
    Over a million Americans dead, about 400k of them from Delta which was when Biden made those remarks.  Over a hundred years later after the Spanish Flu and we still make new vaccines every year to protect the vulnerable, and you are scoffing at scientists making vaccines two years after this one.  I don't have superior knowledge, I have common sense and understanding of history.  
    And 12,000 more dead since May 22nd when we hit a million. Seems Darwin is alive and well.
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  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    mrussel1 said:
    Over a million Americans dead, about 400k of them from Delta which was when Biden made those remarks.  Over a hundred years later after the Spanish Flu and we still make new vaccines every year to protect the vulnerable, and you are scoffing at scientists making vaccines two years after this one.  I don't have superior knowledge, I have common sense and understanding of history.  
    You made a great point - over 100 years after Spanish Flu and no effective flu vaccine in sight. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    edited June 2022
    And 12,000 more dead since May 22nd when we hit a million. Seems Darwin is alive and well.
    Unfortunately, mostly obese or senior home residents or underlying conditions. Most with covid and not from covid. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,405
    AW124797 said:
    You made a great point - over 100 years after Spanish Flu and no effective flu vaccine in sight. 
    A vaccine isn't a long term cure necessarily.  Did you skip that class in med school?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,405
    AW124797 said:
    Unfortunately, mostly obese or senior home residents or underlying conditions. Most with covid and not from covid. 
    That's why the HIV cure is such a farce.  No one dies from HIV, they die with it. You're so right again.  All this whining since the 80s for nothing. 
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    mrussel1 said:
    A vaccine isn't a long term cure necessarily.  Did you skip that class in med school?
    Didn't skip that class, but definitely missed "short term" and "no term."
  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    mrussel1 said:
    That's why the HIV cure is such a farce.  No one dies from HIV, they die with it. You're so right again.  All this whining since the 80s for nothing. 
    As if covid=HIV? Makes sense. Another top notch expert argument. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,645
    AW124797 said:
    You made a great point - over 100 years after Spanish Flu and no effective flu vaccine in sight. 
    mrussel, you are wasting your time with this idiocy. 
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  • AW124797AW124797 Posts: 713
    mrussel, you are wasting your time with this idiocy. 
    Mob is back. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,555
    And so are the trolls.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,248
    AW124797 said:
    Unfortunately, mostly obese or senior home residents or underlying conditions. Most with covid and not from covid. 
    And really, who cares about obese people, senior home residents, or people with underlying conditions?

    This is the same selfish statement people have made for two years now. If you can't be bothered to take something innocuous for the clearly greater good, and try to make counter-arguments about deaths during a fucking pandemic, I don't really give a shit what you have to say - your opinion is worthless to me. Happy trolling, I hope it fills some sort of deep void in your life.
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    AMEN ben. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,138
    benjs said:
    And really, who cares about obese people, senior home residents, or people with underlying conditions?

    This is the same selfish statement people have made for two years now. If you can't be bothered to take something innocuous for the clearly greater good, and try to make counter-arguments about deaths during a fucking pandemic, I don't really give a shit what you have to say - your opinion is worthless to me. Happy trolling, I hope it fills some sort of deep void in your life.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,405
    AW124797 said:
    As if covid=HIV? Makes sense. Another top notch expert argument. 
    You're using the same stupid logic.  People don't die from AIDS, they die from complications from AIDS.  People don't die from Covid, they got covid with a co-morbidity.  Never mind that almost 50% of Americans have one.  We don't need something that can help 50% of the population.  Not nearly enough to make it worthwhile.  
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    Happy trolling? Haha. I made one comment and was instantly trolled by Mr Expert and, as usual, followed by the Angry Mob. Can't have a dfferent opinion or a civil debate here. Pure lunacy and entertainment. I can imagine each topic being discussed in the same manner on this forum. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,555
    AW124797 said:
    Happy trolling? Haha. I made one comment and was instantly trolled by Mr Expert and, as usual, followed by the Angry Mob. Can't have a dfferent opinion or a civil debate here. Pure lunacy and entertainment. I can imagine each topic being discussed in the same manner on this forum. 
    Except you didn't offer any evidence or anything to debate. Just some contrarian belief not backed by history or facts. Make an intelligent post and you might get a different response. Going to advocate for herd immunity?  Let's hear your argument. It should be entertaining.
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