What’s up with Fresno?

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  • She0nceBelieved
    She0nceBelieved Fresno, CA Posts: 83
    cutz said:
    JR86440 said:
    I'm staying at Hilton one mile away. Guessing it is safe enough to walk back after show? Wouldn't want to do that in LA that's for sure..
    I'm staying at the Holiday Inn and it's a little less then a mile away and I HOPE to be able to walk it too. Good question: Is it a safe walk?

    Also staying about a mile away from The Forum and I'll be walking, along with others.
    I live in Fresno. You'll be ok to walk down Shaw Ave. I'm sure there will be a lot of people walking around. It's a busy street, lots of businesses on both sides on the road on route to your hotel. Lots of fast food, restaurants, stores, etc
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  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,661
    uglybabo said:
    JimmyV said:
    Maybe we're seeing the beginning of Pearl Jam not being able to fill out arena's?

    Remember, Neil Y. told them this would eventually happen... 
    We're seeing too many California shows and too short notice. 
    Combined with the world coming out of a Pandemic, conflicts with the rescheduled dates, changes with peoples financial status and higher prices for flights & hotels sprinkled on top. 

    If they would’ve gone with Portland & Spokane instead of Sac & Fresno, I highly doubt we would we would be seeing all this availability we’re seeing now. 

    Yes I’m sure there are some like me who will not risk losing thousands on travel costs for shows that can be canceled with a symptomless positive test result hours before a show. 

    Let them not be able to sell out 9 shows in the Boston to DC corridor first, then they can worry about not selling out arenas.

    .


    I think this is key to the Sacramento/Fresno not selling as well as Southern California, Oakland or Vegas. 

    No offense to those cities but if I were traveling and the show got cancelled last minute you could still make something out of the trip. 
    If the show gets cancelled last minute I will personally take all 10C takers on a tour of Sacramento and the surrounding areas that will leave you wondering why you haven't sold your home and moved here already....Depending on the numbers I will book a brew bike(s) to begin the tour around downtown-that should socially lubricate each and every one of us.  I am telling you...you will never speak ill of this lovely burg again once the tour is completed.....
    :)

    Looks like the top 4 rows were removed from sale in Sac .. never seen that for a PJ show 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,831
    cutz said:
    JR86440 said:
    I'm staying at Hilton one mile away. Guessing it is safe enough to walk back after show? Wouldn't want to do that in LA that's for sure..
    I'm staying at the Holiday Inn and it's a little less then a mile away and I HOPE to be able to walk it too. Good question: Is it a safe walk?

    Also staying about a mile away from The Forum and I'll be walking, along with others.
    I live in Fresno. You'll be ok to walk down Shaw Ave. I'm sure there will be a lot of people walking around. It's a busy street, lots of businesses on both sides on the road on route to your hotel. Lots of fast food, restaurants, stores, etc
    Thanks!
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    uglybabo said:
    JimmyV said:
    Maybe we're seeing the beginning of Pearl Jam not being able to fill out arena's?

    Remember, Neil Y. told them this would eventually happen... 
    We're seeing too many California shows and too short notice. 
    Combined with the world coming out of a Pandemic, conflicts with the rescheduled dates, changes with peoples financial status and higher prices for flights & hotels sprinkled on top. 

    If they would’ve gone with Portland & Spokane instead of Sac & Fresno, I highly doubt we would we would be seeing all this availability we’re seeing now. 

    Yes I’m sure there are some like me who will not risk losing thousands on travel costs for shows that can be canceled with a symptomless positive test result hours before a show. 

    Let them not be able to sell out 9 shows in the Boston to DC corridor first, then they can worry about not selling out arenas.

    .


    I think this is key to the Sacramento/Fresno not selling as well as Southern California, Oakland or Vegas. 

    No offense to those cities but if I were traveling and the show got cancelled last minute you could still make something out of the trip. 
    If the show gets cancelled last minute I will personally take all 10C takers on a tour of Sacramento and the surrounding areas that will leave you wondering why you haven't sold your home and moved here already....Depending on the numbers I will book a brew bike(s) to begin the tour around downtown-that should socially lubricate each and every one of us.  I am telling you...you will never speak ill of this lovely burg again once the tour is completed.....
    :)

    Looks like the top 4 rows were removed from sale in Sac .. never seen that for a PJ show 
    Likely not to sell but they are showing for sale still for me.
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,334
    Homewood Suites by Hilton on Gettysburg Ave or Home2 Suites by Hilton on Santa Ana Ave?
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  • 100 Pacer said:
    Homewood Suites by Hilton on Gettysburg Ave or Home2 Suites by Hilton on Santa Ana Ave?
    University Inn: come for the proximity; stay for the black mold. 
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 981
    I have both University Inn and Holiday Inn Express, also on Shaw about a mile away. Have to decide which to cancel the day before.
    I just wish I knew if I can tolerate University Inn. Many disgusting reviews, but also quite a few that say 1 night for a show is "ok".

    I don't care if its run down, dingy and the shower barely works. But I do need a clean bed and no bugs crawling on me or my stuff.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,357
    uglybabo said:
    JimmyV said:
    Maybe we're seeing the beginning of Pearl Jam not being able to fill out arena's?

    Remember, Neil Y. told them this would eventually happen... 
    We're seeing too many California shows and too short notice. 
    Combined with the world coming out of a Pandemic, conflicts with the rescheduled dates, changes with peoples financial status and higher prices for flights & hotels sprinkled on top. 

    If they would’ve gone with Portland & Spokane instead of Sac & Fresno, I highly doubt we would we would be seeing all this availability we’re seeing now. 

    Yes I’m sure there are some like me who will not risk losing thousands on travel costs for shows that can be canceled with a symptomless positive test result hours before a show. 

    Let them not be able to sell out 9 shows in the Boston to DC corridor first, then they can worry about not selling out arenas.

    .


    I think this is key to the Sacramento/Fresno not selling as well as Southern California, Oakland or Vegas. 

    No offense to those cities but if I were traveling and the show got cancelled last minute you could still make something out of the trip. 

    We post and comment but it’s impossible to know the story behind the story. I have a relative easy job, but it’s one that requires almost daily babysitting, and I’d HATE to take that laptop w me to LA ;)  It’s nearly impossible for me to take a full week off, even three days off could be a headache. So id be flying cross country, getting in and out quick. Sure I could make a little something out of it, but not for too long. Not the best of investments.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    GA up :wink:
  • JZ280705
    JZ280705 Posts: 87
    I’m flying in for the two Oakland shows and don’t want to stay around two extra days for Fresno.  If I lived in the area I’d definitely go.  I bought tickets over a year ago for both Amsterdam shows because I was unable to get tickets in the US when they went on sale in 2020. No luck trying to sell those either.  
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,610
    I have both University Inn and Holiday Inn Express, also on Shaw about a mile away. Have to decide which to cancel the day before.
    I just wish I knew if I can tolerate University Inn. Many disgusting reviews, but also quite a few that say 1 night for a show is "ok".

    I don't care if its run down, dingy and the shower barely works. But I do need a clean bed and no bugs crawling on me or my stuff.
    If there any concerns at all about cleanliness and bed bugs then let your decision be made. Go with the other place. 
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  • ClownofThorns
    ClownofThorns Posts: 165
    JimmyV said:
    I have both University Inn and Holiday Inn Express, also on Shaw about a mile away. Have to decide which to cancel the day before.
    I just wish I knew if I can tolerate University Inn. Many disgusting reviews, but also quite a few that say 1 night for a show is "ok".

    I don't care if its run down, dingy and the shower barely works. But I do need a clean bed and no bugs crawling on me or my stuff.
    If there any concerns at all about cleanliness and bed bugs then let your decision be made. Go with the other place. 
    Well, University Inn doesn't have any bed bug reports, but a Holiday Inn Express in Fresno does!! https://www.bedbugreports.com/city/ca-fresno
  • GP179117
    GP179117 Posts: 368
    i'd sleep in my car if i wasn't sure i'd get jacked by some local meth head.    
    Tempers are wearing thin. Let's hope some robot doesn't kill everybody.
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,319
    cutz said:
    JR86440 said:
    I'm staying at Hilton one mile away. Guessing it is safe enough to walk back after show? Wouldn't want to do that in LA that's for sure..
    I'm staying at the Holiday Inn and it's a little less then a mile away and I HOPE to be able to walk it too. Good question: Is it a safe walk?

    Also staying about a mile away from The Forum and I'll be walking, along with others.
    I live in Fresno. You'll be ok to walk down Shaw Ave. I'm sure there will be a lot of people walking around. It's a busy street, lots of businesses on both sides on the road on route to your hotel. Lots of fast food, restaurants, stores, etc
    Thanks for that Info.
  • She0nceBelieved
    She0nceBelieved Fresno, CA Posts: 83
    I have both University Inn and Holiday Inn Express, also on Shaw about a mile away. Have to decide which to cancel the day before.
    I just wish I knew if I can tolerate University Inn. Many disgusting reviews, but also quite a few that say 1 night for a show is "ok".

    I don't care if its run down, dingy and the shower barely works. But I do need a clean bed and no bugs crawling on me or my stuff.
    University Inn is literally across the street. It's your typical older type motel/hotel. I'm sure some rooms are a little more/less updated than others. If the price is right, and for the convenience, I would stay there one night. I went to a small little party there once like 10 years ago. It was ok....
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    2013: Brooklyn I & II, Phoenix, San Diego, LA I & II, Oakland
    2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton 
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  • She0nceBelieved
    She0nceBelieved Fresno, CA Posts: 83
    cutz said:
    cutz said:
    JR86440 said:
    I'm staying at Hilton one mile away. Guessing it is safe enough to walk back after show? Wouldn't want to do that in LA that's for sure..
    I'm staying at the Holiday Inn and it's a little less then a mile away and I HOPE to be able to walk it too. Good question: Is it a safe walk?

    Also staying about a mile away from The Forum and I'll be walking, along with others.
    I live in Fresno. You'll be ok to walk down Shaw Ave. I'm sure there will be a lot of people walking around. It's a busy street, lots of businesses on both sides on the road on route to your hotel. Lots of fast food, restaurants, stores, etc
    Thanks for that Info.
    Anytime :)
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    2013: Brooklyn I & II, Phoenix, San Diego, LA I & II, Oakland
    2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton 
    2003: Mt. View, Irvine I & II, San Diego, Las Vegas, Mexico City I, II, III, Mt. View I & II, Santa Barbara
    2000: Sacramento
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 981
    JimmyV said:
    I have both University Inn and Holiday Inn Express, also on Shaw about a mile away. Have to decide which to cancel the day before.
    I just wish I knew if I can tolerate University Inn. Many disgusting reviews, but also quite a few that say 1 night for a show is "ok".

    I don't care if its run down, dingy and the shower barely works. But I do need a clean bed and no bugs crawling on me or my stuff.
    If there any concerns at all about cleanliness and bed bugs then let your decision be made. Go with the other place. 
    Well, University Inn doesn't have any bed bug reports, but a Holiday Inn Express in Fresno does!! https://www.bedbugreports.com/city/ca-fresno
    Oh geez! Thanks ClownOfThorns! Maybe I need to cancel them both.
    No, I didn't hear anything about bedbugs (other than Thorns' joke in another post), but other bugs were mentioned.
    If I really thought there were bedbugs, that would be an instant no. I've also never seen even a low end place not have clean sheets, but I suppose there's a first for everything.
    I was kind of hoping someone would comment who knew something about the place, to help me decide.
    U Inn is so close, you just want it to work, but maybe not.
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 981
    Hmm. Thanks SheOnceBelieved.  Maybe it will be ok for 1 night. I know its right across the street, that's the only reason I was considering it.
    Reviews have said some rooms were quite a bit better than others. Hmmm.
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 981
    Ok, I checked the link given above about bedbugs. The hotel that had a report was a different HIE location and over a year ago, so that's a relief. Several other Holiday Inn Express in the area were found to be clear.

    No accordions playing in MY room, lol.
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 981
    Enough about bad hotels.

    Where's the good pizza in Fresno?