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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    edited March 2022
    JB16057 said:
    Ok, well you just called me out for that but you ignored that Germ Blansten did it. Germ gave us 1 poll that showed Biden would win the election. I linked to multiple polls that showed Trump would win.

    It's not a good look to throw rocks from your glass house.

    Biden lead Trump in all head to head polling for two years leading up to the 2020 election (this like 6 months worth 3 years out). So it was not a shock to those not in a cult that Trump lost. Again--the people who voted for Biden are not in a cult. We do not fly Biden flags and wear Biden shirts and hats like Trump supporters still do. We recognize that Biden's numbers are not good. It is likely that the republicans will win back the house this year and if Biden runs again, I don't think anyone here thinks he will waltz to re-election like most Trump supporters did for four years while they called all bad polling for their guy "fake news."

    So, again, I am not sure what point you think you are trying to make here. 
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Biden lead Trump in all head to head polling for two years leading up to the 2020 election (this like 6 months worth 3 years out). So it was not a shock to those not in a cult that Trump lost. Again--the people who voted for Biden are not in a cult. We do not fly Biden flags and wear Biden shirts and hats like Trump supporters still do. We recognize that Biden's numbers are not good. It is likely that the republicans will win back the house this year and if Biden runs again, I don't think anyone here thinks he will waltz to re-election like most Trump supporters did for four years while they called all bad polling for their guy "fake news."

    So, again, I am not sure what point you think you are trying to make here. 
    In my last post, I was making the point that you correctly accused me of only showing 1 measly poll. Germ did the same exact thing and you jumped on board without calling Germ out for only showing 1 poll. You then attack me by saying it's not a good look but then you wouldn't call out Germ for doing the same thing I did. Was it a good look for Germ when he posted 1 poll? You called it interesting and therefore were agreeing with what Germ did.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,507
    JB16057 said:
    In my last post, I was making the point that you correctly accused me of only showing 1 measly poll. Germ did the same exact thing and you jumped on board without calling Germ out for only showing 1 poll. You then attack me by saying it's not a good look but then you wouldn't call out Germ for doing the same thing I did. Was it a good look for Germ when he posted 1 poll? You called it interesting and therefore were agreeing with what Germ did.
    It's Mr Blansten if you're nasty
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    It's Mr Blansten if you're nasty
    Sorry Mr. Blansten. It won't happen again.

    Just to be clear, I'm not saying you did anything wrong. When looking at the poll you posted, it is clear it is only 1 poll of many. I don't think you were cherry picking a poll that you agreed with and even if you were, it doesn't bother me.

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    JB16057 said:
    In my last post, I was making the point that you correctly accused me of only showing 1 measly poll. Germ did the same exact thing and you jumped on board without calling Germ out for only showing 1 poll. You then attack me by saying it's not a good look but then you wouldn't call out Germ for doing the same thing I did. Was it a good look for Germ when he posted 1 poll? You called it interesting and therefore were agreeing with what Germ did.
    Wow. You get triggered waaay too easily. 

    I said it was "interesting" because Biden lead all the head to heads with Trump the last time. So I honestly didn't expect to see him leading any at the moment. That is "interesting" to me. Sorry if that offended you. Germ said he posted it as an example that not all polling for Biden is bad. He said that in his post. Good grief.



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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,671
    edited March 2022
    JB16057 said:
     Trump was competent enough to win an election that no one said he could win.

    no one said he couldn't win? that's news to me.  (edit: full disclosure: I thought he had zero chance of winning-shows how much I knew lol)

    biden was competent enough to get the most votes in a federal election in history. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,142
    JB16057 said:
    Are you really vested in Biden? Would he have been your first choice? I don't know many people that can say that yet he still won the nomination and then the election.

    If Trump is all we have to vote for, then yes, I will vote for him. All I hear is about how many crimes he's broke yet criminal charges aren't appearing. That means that either the people that are trying to go after him are incompetent or he didn't break laws. Either way, if the Democrats are capable of destroying Trump, please do so. Trump is not my first choice and I'd love to see that drama behind us so we can get on with the next person.
    Just throwing this out there, but I'm sure you know that lack of criminal convictions for illegal activity isn't really the best gauge for whether someone is guilty of wrongdoing. I know you can figure this out on your own, but several well known criminals were either never charged or never convicted of their most heinous crimes. Trump is like the head of a racketeering enterprise and has always done a good job of keeping himself out of direct contact while those around him go down in flames. I don't need a conviction to confirm what he, and those around him, have already made pretty obvious. The court of public opinion already weighed in, and unfortunately, some have chosen party over country.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Wow. You get triggered waaay too easily. 

    I said it was "interesting" because Biden lead all the head to heads with Trump the last time. So I honestly didn't expect to see him leading any at the moment. That is "interesting" to me. Sorry if that offended you. Germ said he posted it as an example that not all polling for Biden is bad. He said that in his post. Good grief.



    I'm sorry. Next time I post a link to a single poll, I will make sure to point out the obvious that it is a single poll so you fully understand where I'm coming from. 

    I'm not offended nor am I triggered over this but if that's what you have to tell yourself to prove your point, go right ahead.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,617
    edited March 2022
    I really don’t get comparing Biden’s approval rating to Trumps and claiming it’s slightly better. OK, so Biden is marginally better than the lowest approval rating in History, cool, that’s good enough for some of you though?
    Thats like someone calling me a bad singer and saying at least I’m better than William Hung before breaking into “She Bangs.”
    And it does matter. The party that holds the WH traditionally loses midterms. Not always, but most often. Polling can be an indicator how much of a swing to except. It’s not an exact science and nothing is certain, but it gives us a good idea on what is coming.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,578
    We don't need Biden's poor polling to tell us what's coming. We know what's coming. Repub control of congress, sham investigations, do nothing-just say no, make Biden a lame duck, blame failure on dems. major airing of grievances, setting up for the win of the WH in 2024. You know, putting the country first.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,507
    JB16057 said:
    Sorry Mr. Blansten. It won't happen again.

    Just to be clear, I'm not saying you did anything wrong. When looking at the poll you posted, it is clear it is only 1 poll of many. I don't think you were cherry picking a poll that you agreed with and even if you were, it doesn't bother me.

    No I didn't think I did anything wrong at all. And not one of many....they aren't doing many polls. You can go look at that twitter account and check it out.

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,617
    So Biden said at the conference today they he never said sanctions were meant as a deterrent. So what are they for if not for a deterrent to keep the war going?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,578
    edited March 2022
    I don’t have an issue with Brandon’s response to the sanctions question, given the context of the full exchange.

    Q    Thank you, President Biden.  If sanctions cannot stop President Putin, what penalty can?

         THE PRESIDENT:  I didn’t say sanctions couldn’t stop him.

    Q    But you’ve been talking about the threat of these sanctions for several weeks now —

         THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, but the threat of the sanctions and imposing the sanctions and seeing the effect of the sanctions are two different things.

         Q    Okay, but —

         THE PRESIDENT:  They’re two different things.  And we’re now going to — he’s going to begin to see the effect of the sanctions.

    Q    And what will that do — how will that change his mindset here, given he’s attacking Ukraine as we speak?

         THE PRESIDENT:  Because it will so weaken his country that he’ll have to make a very, very difficult choices of whether to continue to move toward being a second-rate power or, in fact, respond.

         Q    You said, in recent weeks, that big nations cannot bluff when it comes to something like this.  You recently said that the idea of personally sanctioning President Putin was on the table.  Is that a step that you’re prepared to take?  And if not —

         THE PRESIDENT:  It’s not a bluff; it’s on the table.

         Q    Sanctioning President Putin?

         THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.

         Q    Why not sanction him today, sir?  Why not sanction him today, sir?

    Q    Mr. President —

         Q    Mr. President, if I can, you detailed some severe and swift new sanctions today and said the impact it will have over time, but given the full-scale invasion, given that you’re not pursuing disconnecting Russia from what’s called “SWIFT” — the international banking system — or other sanctions at your disposal, respectfully, sir, what more are you waiting for?

    THE PRESIDENT:  Specifically, the sanctions we’ve imposed exceed SWIFT.  The sanctions we imposed exceed anything that’s ever been done.  The sanctions we imposed have generated two thirds of the world joining us.  They are profound sanctions.  Let’s have a conversation in another month or so to see if they’re working.

         Yes.


    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/02/24/remarks-by-president-biden-on-russias-unprovoked-and-unjustified-attack-on-ukraine/

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,578
    And I don’t believe I read one “big,” “beautiful,” “ever known,” or “greatest of all time,” in his announcement and answers to follow up questions. Nor any made up word salad answers that have no relation to the questions asked or POTUS calling a reporter nasty or fake news. Imagine that?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,334
    And I don’t believe I read one “big,” “beautiful,” “ever known,” or “greatest of all time,” in his announcement and answers to follow up questions. Nor any made up word salad answers that have no relation to the questions asked or POTUS calling a reporter nasty or fake news. Imagine that?
    nor did he regale everyone with tales of how he won the electoral college like nobody has ever seen.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    nor did he regale everyone with tales of how he won the electoral college like nobody has ever seen.
    So you're saying he sounded "Presidential?!?!?" My goodness. What a concept!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,507
    mace1229 said:
    So Biden said at the conference today they he never said sanctions were meant as a deterrent. So what are they for if not for a deterrent to keep the war going?
    Punishment
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,507
    And you can bet they are deterring Putin to some degree. He's not going to admit that on the 11 o'clock news for fucks sake
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,410
    And you can bet they are deterring Putin to some degree. He's not going to admit that on the 11 o'clock news for fucks sake
    It's a silly question, on the premise.  Reporters ask binary questions but the world isn't binary.  If sanctions didn't stop Putin does that mean we should not have done sanctions?  What were the other options?  1. Go to war 2. Do nothing?  
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,641
    So you're saying he sounded "Presidential?!?!?" My goodness. What a concept!
    No, Biden reads presidential but if you listen to him talk he sounds more retirement home 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,956
    No, Biden reads presidential but if you listen to him talk he sounds more retirement home 

    Well, it's true, the man is 79 years old.  The thing is, I seriously doubt Biden would have run for president against a more rational, sane, and ethical republican candidate.  But Biden knew he had a chance to win, and like many of us, he was massively concerned about Trump being re-elected.  Biden ran, won, and prevented that from happening.  Maybe instead of grousing about his age, we should be thanking our lucky stars we didn't end up with four more years of Trump.  And in the mean time, let's do whatever it takes to not have Trump elected again. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    brianlux said:

    Well, it's true, the man is 79 years old.  The thing is, I seriously doubt Biden would have run for president against a more rational, sane, and ethical republican candidate.  But Biden knew he had a chance to win, and like many of us, he was massively concerned about Trump being re-elected.  Biden ran, won, and prevented that from happening.  Maybe instead of grousing about his age, we should be thanking our lucky stars we didn't end up with four more years of Trump.  And in the mean time, let's do whatever it takes to not have Trump elected again. 
    Sounding or reading, it's clearly better than what we had with Trump. I wish the bar was not so low, but alas, here we are...
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,956
    Sounding or reading, it's clearly better than what we had with Trump. I wish the bar was not so low, but alas, here we are...

    Yeah, for sure.  Let's hope that bar gets raised one day.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,507
    mrussel1 said:
    It's a silly question, on the premise.  Reporters ask binary questions but the world isn't binary.  If sanctions didn't stop Putin does that mean we should not have done sanctions?  What were the other options?  1. Go to war 2. Do nothing?  
    Exactly...
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,671
    And I don’t believe I read one “big,” “beautiful,” “ever known,” or “greatest of all time,” in his announcement and answers to follow up questions. Nor any made up word salad answers that have no relation to the questions asked or POTUS calling a reporter nasty or fake news. Imagine that?
    I don’t have an issue with Brandon’s response to the sanctions question, given the context of the full exchange.

    Q    Thank you, President Biden.  If sanctions cannot stop President Putin, what penalty can?

         THE PRESIDENT:  I didn’t say sanctions couldn’t stop him.

    Q    But you’ve been talking about the threat of these sanctions for several weeks now —

         THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, but the threat of the sanctions and imposing the sanctions and seeing the effect of the sanctions are two different things.

         Q    Okay, but —

         THE PRESIDENT:  They’re two different things.  And we’re now going to — he’s going to begin to see the effect of the sanctions.

    Q    And what will that do — how will that change his mindset here, given he’s attacking Ukraine as we speak?

         THE PRESIDENT:  Because it will so weaken his country that he’ll have to make a very, very difficult choices of whether to continue to move toward being a second-rate power or, in fact, respond.

         Q    You said, in recent weeks, that big nations cannot bluff when it comes to something like this.  You recently said that the idea of personally sanctioning President Putin was on the table.  Is that a step that you’re prepared to take?  And if not —

         THE PRESIDENT:  It’s not a bluff; it’s on the table.

         Q    Sanctioning President Putin?

         THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.

         Q    Why not sanction him today, sir?  Why not sanction him today, sir?

    Q    Mr. President —

         Q    Mr. President, if I can, you detailed some severe and swift new sanctions today and said the impact it will have over time, but given the full-scale invasion, given that you’re not pursuing disconnecting Russia from what’s called “SWIFT” — the international banking system — or other sanctions at your disposal, respectfully, sir, what more are you waiting for?

    THE PRESIDENT:  Specifically, the sanctions we’ve imposed exceed SWIFT.  The sanctions we imposed exceed anything that’s ever been done.  The sanctions we imposed have generated two thirds of the world joining us.  They are profound sanctions.  Let’s have a conversation in another month or so to see if they’re working.

         Yes.


    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/02/24/remarks-by-president-biden-on-russias-unprovoked-and-unjustified-attack-on-ukraine/

    what's funny about your "not one big beautiful" etc comment was, before I read your post, I was about to comment on his last answer and the parts I bolded sound exactly like Trump. lol
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,671
    No, Biden reads presidential but if you listen to him talk he sounds more retirement home 
    I think he just sounds like an intelligent man that has battled speech disability his entire life. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,410
    what's funny about your "not one big beautiful" etc comment was, before I read your post, I was about to comment on his last answer and the parts I bolded sound exactly like Trump. lol
    I'd be willing to bet that Trump has never used the word "profound" in his life.  And it's true about the sanctions.  I'm fairly certain these sanctions exceed anything that was done to South Africa or anyone else. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,671
    mrussel1 said:
    I'd be willing to bet that Trump has never used the word "profound" in his life.  And it's true about the sanctions.  I'm fairly certain these sanctions exceed anything that was done to South Africa or anyone else. 
    I totally get that. It just struck me how trumpian those two sentences sounded to me. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
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    I totally get that. It just struck me how trumpian those two sentences sounded to me. 
    They're true, though. When Trump uses words like that to describe his own company and administration (best economy ever)--they're easily disputable. These Russia sanctions are actually historic. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,507
    mrussel1 said:
    I'd be willing to bet that Trump has never used the word "profound" in his life.  And it's true about the sanctions.  I'm fairly certain these sanctions exceed anything that was done to South Africa or anyone else. 
    Yeah the difference is truth. Lots of politicians make exaggerations but basically anything coming out of tRump's mouth was just bloviating bullshit. 
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