he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
much like air traffic controllers, cops, firefighters etc some positions are too vital to the nations interest.
but for sure, the law used to prevent the strike needs looked at hard. It benefits RR companies.
As I understand it , even 100 yrs ago or more the public didnt support workers in labor dispites. Why? Because WE get inconvenienced. But I do think this was the right move given what the world is still recovering from economically.
Did anyone bitch when Biden Admin got the longshoremen unions moving to clear the backlog of container ships?
I never understood that. If someone is so vital we need laws to force them to go to work, maybe we should treat them well enough to make them want to go?
That isn't how capitalism works. Can't get returns to the shareholders if you waste precious profits on labor.
Those were all gov't positions that he called out. There are no shareholders.
much like air traffic controllers, cops, firefighters etc some positions are too vital to the nations interest.
but for sure, the law used to prevent the strike needs looked at hard. It benefits RR companies.
As I understand it , even 100 yrs ago or more the public didnt support workers in labor dispites. Why? Because WE get inconvenienced. But I do think this was the right move given what the world is still recovering from economically.
Did anyone bitch when Biden Admin got the longshoremen unions moving to clear the backlog of container ships?
I never understood that. If someone is so vital we need laws to force them to go to work, maybe we should treat them well enough to make them want to go?
That isn't how capitalism works. Can't get returns to the shareholders if you waste precious profits on labor.
Those were all gov't positions that he called out. There are no shareholders.
I realize the positions mickey called out are public sector, but he was comparing that to the RR situation. I was replying to mace's more general comments, which seemed to be referencing the RR workers among other essential employees trying to make collective demands for better work incentives and pay. Between "right to work" and the threat of a law stopping a strike, there is no reason for the public or private sector to address worker concerns unless things get to a critical juncture that may halt all progress. And even then if it becomes against the law to advocate for yourself it is unlikely that anything will get done.
much like air traffic controllers, cops, firefighters etc some positions are too vital to the nations interest.
but for sure, the law used to prevent the strike needs looked at hard. It benefits RR companies.
As I understand it , even 100 yrs ago or more the public didnt support workers in labor dispites. Why? Because WE get inconvenienced. But I do think this was the right move given what the world is still recovering from economically.
Did anyone bitch when Biden Admin got the longshoremen unions moving to clear the backlog of container ships?
I never understood that. If someone is so vital we need laws to force them to go to work, maybe we should treat them well enough to make them want to go?
That isn't how capitalism works. Can't get returns to the shareholders if you waste precious profits on labor.
Those were all gov't positions that he called out. There are no shareholders.
I realize the positions mickey called out are public sector, but he was comparing that to the RR situation. I was replying to mace's more general comments, which seemed to be referencing the RR workers among other essential employees trying to make collective demands for better work incentives and pay. Between "right to work" and the threat of a law stopping a strike, there is no reason for the public or private sector to address worker concerns unless things get to a critical juncture that may halt all progress. And even then if it becomes against the law to advocate for yourself it is unlikely that anything will get done.
I see, I agree. It's tough. RR is essential to our infrastructure but it is private, unlike the other examples as you note.
So yes, in our capitalism system, the first obligation of the RR is to drive shareholder value, not transport food. If transporting food is the raison d'etre for the RR, then it should be nationalized. It's a complicated situation for sure.
much like air traffic controllers, cops, firefighters etc some positions are too vital to the nations interest.
but for sure, the law used to prevent the strike needs looked at hard. It benefits RR companies.
As I understand it , even 100 yrs ago or more the public didnt support workers in labor dispites. Why? Because WE get inconvenienced. But I do think this was the right move given what the world is still recovering from economically.
Did anyone bitch when Biden Admin got the longshoremen unions moving to clear the backlog of container ships?
I never understood that. If someone is so vital we need laws to force them to go to work, maybe we should treat them well enough to make them want to go?
That isn't how capitalism works. Can't get returns to the shareholders if you waste precious profits on labor.
Those were all gov't positions that he called out. There are no shareholders.
I realize the positions mickey called out are public sector, but he was comparing that to the RR situation. I was replying to mace's more general comments, which seemed to be referencing the RR workers among other essential employees trying to make collective demands for better work incentives and pay. Between "right to work" and the threat of a law stopping a strike, there is no reason for the public or private sector to address worker concerns unless things get to a critical juncture that may halt all progress. And even then if it becomes against the law to advocate for yourself it is unlikely that anything will get done.
I see, I agree. It's tough. RR is essential to our infrastructure but it is private, unlike the other examples as you note.
So yes, in our capitalism system, the first obligation of the RR is to drive shareholder value, not transport food. If transporting food is the raison d'etre for the RR, then it should be nationalized. It's a complicated situation for sure.
Tough for sure. Imagine a system that prioritized providing the best service as it's first obligation. It almost seems like that could solve many problems. Investors would get their cut and goods and services would potentially have higher levels of quality.
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he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
I think all of the above is our best hope and would love to see these hopes realized.
As for Kamala, I like her just fine but I am concerned that America may not be ready to elect a woman of color as president. On the other hand, I was blown away and delighted when Obama made president.... twice!... so maybe!
My other concern is that if Biden wins a second term and dems take both house and senate, the radical right will go (literally) ballistic. Strange times ahead?
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
I think all of the above is our best hope and would love to see these hopes realized.
As for Kamala, I like her just fine but I am concerned that America may not be ready to elect a woman of color as president. On the other hand, I was blown away and delighted when Obama made president.... twice!... so maybe!
My other concern is that if Biden wins a second term and dems take both house and senate, the radical right will go (literally) ballistic. Strange times ahead?
let them go ballistic and act like the children that they are. when you can't win on ideas and your only policy is grievance and revenge, you can't win more voters like that.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
Bahahah! But I guess these are your standards. Very very low. But yours.
he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
Bahahah! But I guess these are your standards. Very very low. But yours.
4 more years, sounds like a prison term
don't cry too hard when it happens.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
Bahahah! But I guess these are your standards. Very very low. But yours.
4 more years, sounds like a prison term
and my standards?? who is still supporting a one term, twice impeached, two time popular vote loser that lost control of both houses of congress, that is already indicted in one case, and will likely be indicted in a few more?
get outta here, lol.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
Bahahah! But I guess these are your standards. Very very low. But yours.
4 more years, sounds like a prison term
big strong man afraid to have a debate. see, he has no ideas to run on.
he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
Bahahah! But I guess these are your standards. Very very low. But yours.
he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
Bahahah! But I guess these are your standards. Very very low. But yours.
4 more years, sounds like a prison term
where's Tucker?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
Bahahah! But I guess these are your standards. Very very low. But yours.
4 more years, sounds like a prison term
The only one between Biden & Trumpolinni who has court dates is who?
he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
Bahahah! But I guess these are your standards. Very very low. But yours.
4 more years, sounds like a prison term
I can't recall a Prime Minister's reign in Canada ever feeling like my country somehow transitioned into a prison, or myself a prisoner. What of Biden's governance made it feel like prison to you, or like you're a prisoner? You can leave any time you want (one of the notable differences between your life and prison).
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he will win. i think he has done enough to warrant a 2nd term. plus, if the dems win the house and hold the senate he could get a lot done in the 2nd term.
i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
Bahahah! But I guess these are your standards. Very very low. But yours.
4 more years, sounds like a prison term
Tune in to Tucker Carlson Tonight at 8 on Fox News for more on this issue.
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The best thing about both those products is that they aren't Made in China like everything Trump ever sells, but yet Trump loves America and Biden is in bed with China
I Just saw the Shit for Brains President is running again. Don’t the Dummycrats have anyone else to run out there? At this point someone should be charged w/ elderly abuse….I am actually starting to feel sorry for slow Joe….
I Just saw the Shit for Brains President is running again. Don’t the Dummycrats have anyone else to run out there? At this point someone should be charged w/ elderly abuse….I am actually starting to feel sorry for slow Joe….
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i am seeing people crap on kamala though. why? i think she would be a good successor should something happen, to biden, god forbid.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
So yes, in our capitalism system, the first obligation of the RR is to drive shareholder value, not transport food. If transporting food is the raison d'etre for the RR, then it should be nationalized. It's a complicated situation for sure.
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
4 more years, sounds like a prison term
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
get outta here, lol.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
-EV 8/14/93
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Interesting notion, turning that Brandon shit around. Excellent strategy!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
-EV 8/14/93