#46 President Joe Biden

Gern Blansten

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

DeSantis is more worrisome than Trump in my opinion. Trump is slowly losing his hold on that party.....but smarter versions of him are rising up to take his place. 

I think Trump would destroy DeSantis in a primary, unfortunately. And even if DeSantis beat him, Trump would throw a fit and try to turn republicans against him for the general election. The time is right for DeSantis to run. He's a pretty nationally-known governor at this point. But he's also been a Trump fanboy in the past, so he might not run so he's not in direct competition with Trump.

DeSantis as Trump's running mate might also be a possibility. Maybe even announce it before the primaries, which would be unprecedented, but it would justify DeSantis not being an opponent of Trump in the primary. 

Exactly....tRump won't be able to resist attacking whoever is in front of him

JB16057

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

The Juggler

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

Gern Blansten

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1506383316617945094

here's the fucking point I'm making

JB16057

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1506383316617945094

here's the fucking point I'm making

Those are hypothetical. I get the point you are making but we are making two different points here.

JB16057

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT,  his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.

If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.

The Juggler

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT,  his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.

If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.

Why would I rub them in your face? I didn't call this Reuters poll fake, did I? I did call the nonsense you posted from Trump's donor's company meaningless...because they are.

Just go off of 538 to get an overall idea of how the approval numbers are looking as opposed to cherry picking a random one just because it suits your agenda. His numbers are not good right now. Everyone knows that. lol

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

The Juggler

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1506383316617945094

here's the fucking point I'm making

Interesting.

Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.

Halifax2TheMax

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

Like any POTUS’s poll numbers would improve with what is happening in the nation and the world right now.

100,000+ less jobless claims last month. Seems plenty of Americans can afford gas.

JB16057

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT,  his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.

If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.

Why would I rub them in your face? I didn't call this Reuters poll fake, did I? I did call the nonsense you posted from Trump's donor's company meaningless...because they are.

Just go off of 538 to get an overall idea of how the approval numbers are looking as opposed to cherry picking a random one just because it suits your agenda. His numbers are not good right now. Everyone knows that. lol

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

You didn't call it fake but I would lean more towards insignificant.

Honestly, I hope his numbers do go up.

JB16057

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1506383316617945094

here's the fucking point I'm making

Interesting.

Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.

Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?

I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one. 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

JB16057

Halifax2TheMax said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

Like any POTUS’s poll numbers would improve with what is happening in the nation and the world right now.

100,000+ less jobless claims last month. Seems plenty of Americans can afford gas.

Less jobless claims does not mean that people can afford gas, come on man.

HughFreakingDillon

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1506383316617945094

here's the fucking point I'm making

Interesting.

Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.

Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?

I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one. 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

trump was never competent. biden is competent just fine. 

Halifax2TheMax

JB16057 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

Like any POTUS’s poll numbers would improve with what is happening in the nation and the world right now.

100,000+ less jobless claims last month. Seems plenty of Americans can afford gas.

Less jobless claims does not mean that people can afford gas, come on man.

If people can't afford gas, how are they getting to work?

JB16057

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1506383316617945094

here's the fucking point I'm making

Interesting.

Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.

Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?

I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one. 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

trump was never competent. biden is competent just fine. 

 Trump was competent enough to win an election that no one said he could win.

Halifax2TheMax

JB16057 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1506383316617945094

here's the fucking point I'm making

Interesting.

Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.

Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?

I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one. 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

trump was never competent. biden is competent just fine. 

 Trump was competent enough to win an election that no one said he could win.

All by himself? No putin on the ritz assist? Are you kidding me? Where have you been for the past 5-7 years? And he still lost the popular vote. Competence and POOTWH don't belong in the same sentence.

Are you really this vested in POOTWH? Are you really going to vote for him again?

JB16057

Halifax2TheMax said:

JB16057 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1506383316617945094

here's the fucking point I'm making

Interesting.

Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.

Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?

I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one. 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

trump was never competent. biden is competent just fine. 

 Trump was competent enough to win an election that no one said he could win.

All by himself? No putin on the ritz assist? Are you kidding me? Where have you been for the past 5-7 years? And he still lost the popular vote. Competence and POOTWH don't belong in the same sentence.

Are you really this vested in POOTWH? Are you really going to vote for him again?

Are you really vested in Biden? Would he have been your first choice? I don't know many people that can say that yet he still won the nomination and then the election.

If Trump is all we have to vote for, then yes, I will vote for him. All I hear is about how many crimes he's broke yet criminal charges aren't appearing. That means that either the people that are trying to go after him are incompetent or he didn't break laws. Either way, if the Democrats are capable of destroying Trump, please do so. Trump is not my first choice and I'd love to see that drama behind us so we can get on with the next person.

The Juggler

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT,  his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.

If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.

Why would I rub them in your face? I didn't call this Reuters poll fake, did I? I did call the nonsense you posted from Trump's donor's company meaningless...because they are.

Just go off of 538 to get an overall idea of how the approval numbers are looking as opposed to cherry picking a random one just because it suits your agenda. His numbers are not good right now. Everyone knows that. lol

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

You didn't call it fake but I would lean more towards insignificant.

Honestly, I hope his numbers do go up.

No, I said it is better to look at the average instead of cherry picking a poll or two and then coming on here and gloating. It's not a good look. 

JB16057

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

OnWis97 said:

It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

There are multiple reasons why his polling is going down. I never said it was only one thing. I said weeks ago, before the laptop was recognized as legit by the NYT,  his polling numbers would go down due to high gas prices and inflation.

If his numbers tick up again, I'm sure you will rub them in my face. You can do that and I won't call them fake like you call the polls I reference as being insignificant.

Why would I rub them in your face? I didn't call this Reuters poll fake, did I? I did call the nonsense you posted from Trump's donor's company meaningless...because they are.

Just go off of 538 to get an overall idea of how the approval numbers are looking as opposed to cherry picking a random one just because it suits your agenda. His numbers are not good right now. Everyone knows that. lol

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

You didn't call it fake but I would lean more towards insignificant.

Honestly, I hope his numbers do go up.

No, I said it is better to look at the average instead of cherry picking a poll or two and then coming on here and gloating. It's not a good look. 

Ok, well you just called me out for that but you ignored that Germ Blansten did it. Germ gave us 1 poll that showed Biden would win the election. I linked to multiple polls that showed Trump would win.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

It's not a good look to throw rocks from your glass house.

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It's fun to mock Trump's poll numbers, but Biden's are bad regardless of comparison and they indicate that the Democratic Party is in trouble. How would a Biden/Trump election go tomorrow? Do the Dems have anyone that could beat him or Desantis?

Popularity polls are different from election polls. There was a poll out a few months ago that showed support for Biden is still there.

Popularity polls may be different than election polls but they are related. A lot has happened in the past few months and none of it has improved Biden's polling. A few months ago Americans could still afford gas.

What point do you think you are making? His numbers have remained largely in the same position (a few points higher than his predecessor) since the Fall. Last week you said they were going down as a result of his son's laptop. Now you are saying they are going down because gas prices, that were already high, have gone up further due to the war in Europe? 

And if his numbers do tick up again, would you believe them? Or would you revert to calling them fake?

https://twitter.com/PollTrackerUSA/status/1506383316617945094

here's the fucking point I'm making

Interesting.

Biden actually lead Trump in pretty much all head to head poling for the two years leading up the 2020 election. Trump supporters refused to believe those, just like JB appears to not believe this one, and thus refused to believe the actual result.

Where did I say I don't believe it? Do you understand it is to have a reasonable conversation here when you and others say things that aren't true and put words into my mouth?

I didn't say I don't believe it. Those are hypothetical. We don't know if Trump is even running in 2024 let alone that Biden will be competent in 2024. If you want to look at that kind of polling, here are multiple polls showing a different outcome than that one. 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

trump was never competent. biden is competent just fine. 

 Trump was competent enough to win an election that no one said he could win.

All by himself? No putin on the ritz assist? Are you kidding me? Where have you been for the past 5-7 years? And he still lost the popular vote. Competence and POOTWH don't belong in the same sentence.

Are you really this vested in POOTWH? Are you really going to vote for him again?

Are you really vested in Biden? Would he have been your first choice? I don't know many people that can say that yet he still won the nomination and then the election.

If Trump is all we have to vote for, then yes, I will vote for him. All I hear is about how many crimes he's broke yet criminal charges aren't appearing. That means that either the people that are trying to go after him are incompetent or he didn't break laws. Either way, if the Democrats are capable of destroying Trump, please do so. Trump is not my first choice and I'd love to see that drama behind us so we can get on with the next person.

I thought Biden was the salve for the wound and voted for him and will support him if he runs for re-election, which I don’t think he’ll do. After that, I’ll support whoever the Dems nominate as there is no way I can vote for the white supremacy party, regardless of their nominee.

There are still three active investigations ongoing involving POOTWH, as well as a congressional investigation that may result in criminal referrals. All of which he isn’t cooperating with as is his right. Patience is a virtue.