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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    tbergs said:
    JB16057 said:
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    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    With the New York Times confirming some of the info on the Hunter Biden laptops, does this potentially create any legal trouble for joe?  Some of the emails implicated Joe as being complicit in Hunter's business dealings.  I don't think any of those specific emails have been authenticated yet at this time.  At the risk of being attacked for even bringing this stuff up I was wondering what some of the more politically savvy members think of the Hunter Laptop situation now that it seems that some of the info is being verified by legitimate sources.
    Sad no? 
    Well it has went as I expected so far.  As someone that hasn't followed the situation closely I was under the impression that all of the laptop stuff was russian misinformation.  Then I saw that the NYT verified some of the data and thought some of the experts here could explain this more in depth.  So far I haven't read any informative posts and see the usual but her emails, or vague implications that I am bringing up something to make Biden look bad.  All I am looking for is someone to better explain the situation to me as it appears the nature of these sources being verified and not actually russian disinformation have changed. 

    I'm all ears to anyone that can better inform me of the current situation without veiled accusations or insults, I realize that could be asking a bit much.  For the record I would have still voted for Joe if these had all been verified in 2020, not looking to relitigate the past, just wondering how this changes or doesn't change anything going forward.


    In addition, the POOTWH administration did everything it could to interfere with, stonewall and squash the Team Mueller investigation, inclusive of firing the head of the FBI, AG, dangling and granting pardons, prematurely quashing Team Mueller and appointing Bull Durham.
    Trump could've ended the Mueller investigation whenever he wanted by firing Mueller. He didn't.
    He ended it by having Bill DISbarred doing his dirty work for him and releasing the 4 page BS synopsis ahead of releasing the Team Mueller report.

    So, you think it was a transparent investigation devoid of interference?
    You're the one claiming the POOTWH administration did EVERYTHING it could to interfere. I simply pointed out that they didn't do EVERYTHING as you claim.
    Interfere with WHAT? The election or the investigation of the POOTWH campaign’s collusion with Putin on the ritz? 
    Here is what you said: "In addition, the POOTWH administration did everything it could to interfere with, stonewall and squash the Team Mueller investigation....."

    The POOTWH did not do EVERYTHING it could to interfere with the Team Mueller investigation.


    POOTWH wanted to fire Team Mueller but didn’t because it was politically untenable and most of the DOJ, inclusive of his attorneys, would have resigned in protest. POOTWH tried and failed but got the same result. Guess I should have said, “did 99% of what could have been done to interfere with the Team Mueller investigation?”

    Good to know where your priorities and focus are though. Guess that absolves POOTWH of everything else?


    Well, to be fair, you hammer on everyone else for their choice of adjective. You exaggerated, not a big deal, but to and fro, the pendulum....
    ooooooooooooo, I got burned. Guess I'll go pout. Its a pretty thin hair to be splitting between "firing Team Mueller" and "having DISbarred end the investigation." I'm not sure there wasn't anything left to do to hinder the investigation other than maybe novichok tea parties. So yea, EVERYTHING.

    Hammer away.
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  • The Juggler
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    "But his son's emails" is the new "but her emails" to these people.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    "But his son's emails" is the new "but her emails" to these people.

    lol
    but if you recall, in the beginning, when it was first discovered she deleted 33 thousand emails when she wasn't supposed to, the investigation was completely warranted. we only laugh about it now because no wrong doing was found and trumpsters keep hammering on about it 4.5 years later. but initially, it was a credible investigation. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    "But his son's emails" is the new "but her emails" to these people.

    lol
    but if you recall, in the beginning, when it was first discovered she deleted 33 thousand emails when she wasn't supposed to, the investigation was completely warranted. we only laugh about it now because no wrong doing was found and trumpsters keep hammering on about it 4.5 years later. but initially, it was a credible investigation. 
    never forget that comey tried to fuck the clintons the week before the election. she still won the popular vote by 3.5 million. trump just won electoral college by winning a few key counties in a few states. but do not forget that comey did all he could to harm her chances.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    yes, I do recall that. But I'm just pointing out that just because the hunter biden laptop thing seems like another red herring, doesn't mean it is. Mind you, like someone else said, if Joe isn't involved, I couldn't give two craps. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I look forward to the house impeachment hearings to begin in 2023 after the repubs take the house and senate and Maggie 3 Names and Dopert are given plum committee assignments to showcase their loyalty to POOTWH. Fun times ahead. They'll drag this on right up through November 2024. 
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  • JB16057
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    "But his son's emails" is the new "but her emails" to these people.

    lol
    But do you think it's fair to have an issue with how this whole thing was handled? How is this not interfering with our elections when the laptop was legitimate, the FBI knew it along with the Trump administration, yet we still had so many officials and media telling us it was Russian disinformation?

    Do you want fair elections? I do. Everyone who said this was Russian disinformation knew exactly what they were doing because they wanted to shield Joe Biden from any negative press. That is interfering in our elections and it should be called out for what it is.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,875
    For old times sake and for the newbies.

    “There was no collusion.”

    “I don’t know any Russians.”

    “I have nothing to hide.”

    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    “We do everything by the book.”

    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    “Very legal, very cool.”

    “Fully exonerated.”

    “Essentially no obstruction.”

    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”

    “No quid pro quo.”

    “Imminent threat.”

    “I thought he was Israeli.”




    What newbies?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    For old times sake and for the newbies.

    “There was no collusion.”

    “I don’t know any Russians.”

    “I have nothing to hide.”

    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    “We do everything by the book.”

    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

    “Very legal, very cool.”

    “Fully exonerated.”

    “Essentially no obstruction.”

    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”

    “No quid pro quo.”

    “Imminent threat.”

    “I thought he was Israeli.”




    What newbies?
    There are some folks on here who could benefit from reviewing the POOTWH thread, beginning on page one. Or the Russian interference thread.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    With the New York Times confirming some of the info on the Hunter Biden laptops, does this potentially create any legal trouble for joe?  Some of the emails implicated Joe as being complicit in Hunter's business dealings.  I don't think any of those specific emails have been authenticated yet at this time.  At the risk of being attacked for even bringing this stuff up I was wondering what some of the more politically savvy members think of the Hunter Laptop situation now that it seems that some of the info is being verified by legitimate sources.
    Sad no? 
    Well it has went as I expected so far.  As someone that hasn't followed the situation closely I was under the impression that all of the laptop stuff was russian misinformation.  Then I saw that the NYT verified some of the data and thought some of the experts here could explain this more in depth.  So far I haven't read any informative posts and see the usual but her emails, or vague implications that I am bringing up something to make Biden look bad.  All I am looking for is someone to better explain the situation to me as it appears the nature of these sources being verified and not actually russian disinformation have changed. 

    I'm all ears to anyone that can better inform me of the current situation without veiled accusations or insults, I realize that could be asking a bit much.  For the record I would have still voted for Joe if these had all been verified in 2020, not looking to relitigate the past, just wondering how this changes or doesn't change anything going forward.


    In addition, the POOTWH administration did everything it could to interfere with, stonewall and squash the Team Mueller investigation, inclusive of firing the head of the FBI, AG, dangling and granting pardons, prematurely quashing Team Mueller and appointing Bull Durham.
    Trump could've ended the Mueller investigation whenever he wanted by firing Mueller. He didn't.

    The trump that existed in 2018 does not agree with that. That year was near the end of an era where presidents were judged by “protocol.” A million protocols were ended by trump, such as not putting money in blind trust or not threatening to kill someone on 5th Avenue, and on and on.

    2018 trump was concerned that firing prosecutors did not work out well for Nixon, so he decided he’d harm the investigation in many other less obvious ways. Of course, Rambo 2020 trump, would scale the walls of congress to murder anyone certifying 270 electoral votes against him, that trump would fire mueller in a heartbeat.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    But...but Hunter's emails



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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    static111 said:
    With the New York Times confirming some of the info on the Hunter Biden laptops, does this potentially create any legal trouble for joe?  Some of the emails implicated Joe as being complicit in Hunter's business dealings.  I don't think any of those specific emails have been authenticated yet at this time.  At the risk of being attacked for even bringing this stuff up I was wondering what some of the more politically savvy members think of the Hunter Laptop situation now that it seems that some of the info is being verified by legitimate sources.
    Sad no? 
    Well it has went as I expected so far.  As someone that hasn't followed the situation closely I was under the impression that all of the laptop stuff was russian misinformation.  Then I saw that the NYT verified some of the data and thought some of the experts here could explain this more in depth.  So far I haven't read any informative posts and see the usual but her emails, or vague implications that I am bringing up something to make Biden look bad.  All I am looking for is someone to better explain the situation to me as it appears the nature of these sources being verified and not actually russian disinformation have changed. 

    I'm all ears to anyone that can better inform me of the current situation without veiled accusations or insults, I realize that could be asking a bit much.  For the record I would have still voted for Joe if these had all been verified in 2020, not looking to relitigate the past, just wondering how this changes or doesn't change anything going forward.


    In addition, the POOTWH administration did everything it could to interfere with, stonewall and squash the Team Mueller investigation, inclusive of firing the head of the FBI, AG, dangling and granting pardons, prematurely quashing Team Mueller and appointing Bull Durham.
    Trump could've ended the Mueller investigation whenever he wanted by firing Mueller. He didn't.
    Because people threatened to resign if he did...
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    It doesn’t surprise me one bit that the folks on this board ate it all up.  They ate up “Russian collusion.”They ate up that the hunter laptop was “Russian disinformation,” even though it made patently no sense whatsoever when all obvious info points to the guy being a mess who forgot he even brought his laptop to the store. They ate up any media narrative spit at them for the last 5 years.  They’re currently eating up that our inflation is Russia’s or Covid’s fault, and that rising gas prices are Russia’s fault as well.  Maybe some of it is our own fault? Maybe poor policy decisions by idiots we’ve elected have gotten us where we are? Some on here seriously think that there’s a Pee tape.  Still.  For real.  Many folks (independents for sure, finally) are beginning to realize they’ve been taken for a ride and to not listen to what they’re being told. Anyone who still simply believes what they’re told after all that stuff above needs to have a reality check.  

     Anyone with a functioning brain and the discipline to think for themselves knew trump was right when talking about being wire tapped, that his campaign was being spied on and once elected it continued, that folks were trying to take him down from the inside.  Why would he make it up, when we all know how the rich and powerful take care of each other. They literally paid to have a bs dossier created and used it to get a warrant to spy on a campaign staffer.  All of this stuff is verifiable and yet they willfully chose to believe a media narrative that simply didn’t make any sense.

    Who would be ok with an outsider like trump coming in to mess up their comfy lifestyle?  It’s easy to see that those inside Washington want to stay in Washington, elected officials want to keep their jobs… both sides have their serious scummery, so the reasons to get rid of him ran deep.  When trump said he was going to drain the swamp they went cookoo.  
    The sad thing to me is that people actually believed it. They fell for the propaganda, the msm state run media.
    all I can say about the hunter emails is that they obviously show exactly what we said they show, and his father is absolutely involved.  None of this is a surprise, the only surprise is that the NYT actually had the balls to say it.  Probably to save face and attempt to win back some of the lost readers of course.  Will anything come of it or happen? Nope.  The DOJ is full of insiders and no one wants to shake it up.  

    I have rising confidence that most Americans are actually Americans in the truest sense of the word. People are beginning to realize that there's an agenda being implemented against them by the very people they're supposed to be able to trust, the legacy media, their elected representatives, the plethora of bureaus and agencies, etc. The good news there is that Americans, the real ones, outnumber the the fake ones by a huge margin. The writing is on the wall for the fakes and it would behoove them to read it.

    hopefully we eventually get to listen to Joey Softserve talk about this.  He’ll talk about Beau and burn pits and cancer or something instead, but it’ll be fun to watch him forget what he’s doing as usual.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,875
    trump had numerous campaign workers and buddies meeting with Russians and their reps because what, they understand electoral college politics better than Mitt Romney’s old team?

    the fact that so many have perjured themselves tells any thinking true American with a functioning brain all they need to know.

    and we are all subject to being wire tapped, thanks to what? A GOP president 
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    It doesn’t surprise me one bit that the folks on this board ate it all up.  They ate up “Russian collusion.”They ate up that the hunter laptop was “Russian disinformation,” even though it made patently no sense whatsoever when all obvious info points to the guy being a mess who forgot he even brought his laptop to the store. They ate up any media narrative spit at them for the last 5 years.  They’re currently eating up that our inflation is Russia’s or Covid’s fault, and that rising gas prices are Russia’s fault as well.  Maybe some of it is our own fault? Maybe poor policy decisions by idiots we’ve elected have gotten us where we are? Some on here seriously think that there’s a Pee tape.  Still.  For real.  Many folks (independents for sure, finally) are beginning to realize they’ve been taken for a ride and to not listen to what they’re being told. Anyone who still simply believes what they’re told after all that stuff above needs to have a reality check.  

     Anyone with a functioning brain and the discipline to think for themselves knew trump was right when talking about being wire tapped, that his campaign was being spied on and once elected it continued, that folks were trying to take him down from the inside.  Why would he make it up, when we all know how the rich and powerful take care of each other. They literally paid to have a bs dossier created and used it to get a warrant to spy on a campaign staffer.  All of this stuff is verifiable and yet they willfully chose to believe a media narrative that simply didn’t make any sense.

    Who would be ok with an outsider like trump coming in to mess up their comfy lifestyle?  It’s easy to see that those inside Washington want to stay in Washington, elected officials want to keep their jobs… both sides have their serious scummery, so the reasons to get rid of him ran deep.  When trump said he was going to drain the swamp they went cookoo.  
    The sad thing to me is that people actually believed it. They fell for the propaganda, the msm state run media.
    all I can say about the hunter emails is that they obviously show exactly what we said they show, and his father is absolutely involved.  None of this is a surprise, the only surprise is that the NYT actually had the balls to say it.  Probably to save face and attempt to win back some of the lost readers of course.  Will anything come of it or happen? Nope.  The DOJ is full of insiders and no one wants to shake it up.  

    I have rising confidence that most Americans are actually Americans in the truest sense of the word. People are beginning to realize that there's an agenda being implemented against them by the very people they're supposed to be able to trust, the legacy media, their elected representatives, the plethora of bureaus and agencies, etc. The good news there is that Americans, the real ones, outnumber the the fake ones by a huge margin. The writing is on the wall for the fakes and it would behoove them to read it.

    hopefully we eventually get to listen to Joey Softserve talk about this.  He’ll talk about Beau and burn pits and cancer or something instead, but it’ll be fun to watch him forget what he’s doing as usual.
    Can you please explain what it means to be an actual American "in the truest sense of the word" and what distinguishes "the real ones" from "the fake ones?"
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    so wait. trump is the victim here? 

    lmao
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,408
    so wait. trump is the victim here? 

    lmao

    right on brand.

    and to once again state the known fact COLLUSION ISNT ILLEGAL. And it was stated as such by the Mueller report.  He did lay the groundwork for Congress though, leaving open the possibility for criminal charges once he left office.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    It doesn’t surprise me one bit that the folks on this board ate it all up.  They ate up “Russian collusion.”They ate up that the hunter laptop was “Russian disinformation,” even though it made patently no sense whatsoever when all obvious info points to the guy being a mess who forgot he even brought his laptop to the store. They ate up any media narrative spit at them for the last 5 years.  They’re currently eating up that our inflation is Russia’s or Covid’s fault, and that rising gas prices are Russia’s fault as well.  Maybe some of it is our own fault? Maybe poor policy decisions by idiots we’ve elected have gotten us where we are? Some on here seriously think that there’s a Pee tape.  Still.  For real.  Many folks (independents for sure, finally) are beginning to realize they’ve been taken for a ride and to not listen to what they’re being told. Anyone who still simply believes what they’re told after all that stuff above needs to have a reality check.  

     Anyone with a functioning brain and the discipline to think for themselves knew trump was right when talking about being wire tapped, that his campaign was being spied on and once elected it continued, that folks were trying to take him down from the inside.  Why would he make it up, when we all know how the rich and powerful take care of each other. They literally paid to have a bs dossier created and used it to get a warrant to spy on a campaign staffer.  All of this stuff is verifiable and yet they willfully chose to believe a media narrative that simply didn’t make any sense.

    Who would be ok with an outsider like trump coming in to mess up their comfy lifestyle?  It’s easy to see that those inside Washington want to stay in Washington, elected officials want to keep their jobs… both sides have their serious scummery, so the reasons to get rid of him ran deep.  When trump said he was going to drain the swamp they went cookoo.  
    The sad thing to me is that people actually believed it. They fell for the propaganda, the msm state run media.
    all I can say about the hunter emails is that they obviously show exactly what we said they show, and his father is absolutely involved.  None of this is a surprise, the only surprise is that the NYT actually had the balls to say it.  Probably to save face and attempt to win back some of the lost readers of course.  Will anything come of it or happen? Nope.  The DOJ is full of insiders and no one wants to shake it up.  

    I have rising confidence that most Americans are actually Americans in the truest sense of the word. People are beginning to realize that there's an agenda being implemented against them by the very people they're supposed to be able to trust, the legacy media, their elected representatives, the plethora of bureaus and agencies, etc. The good news there is that Americans, the real ones, outnumber the the fake ones by a huge margin. The writing is on the wall for the fakes and it would behoove them to read it.

    hopefully we eventually get to listen to Joey Softserve talk about this.  He’ll talk about Beau and burn pits and cancer or something instead, but it’ll be fun to watch him forget what he’s doing as usual.
    And some folks believe in indictments incoming. Merry Xmas.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    It doesn’t surprise me one bit that the folks on this board ate it all up.  They ate up “Russian collusion.”They ate up that the hunter laptop was “Russian disinformation,” even though it made patently no sense whatsoever when all obvious info points to the guy being a mess who forgot he even brought his laptop to the store. They ate up any media narrative spit at them for the last 5 years.  They’re currently eating up that our inflation is Russia’s or Covid’s fault, and that rising gas prices are Russia’s fault as well.  Maybe some of it is our own fault? Maybe poor policy decisions by idiots we’ve elected have gotten us where we are? Some on here seriously think that there’s a Pee tape.  Still.  For real.  Many folks (independents for sure, finally) are beginning to realize they’ve been taken for a ride and to not listen to what they’re being told. Anyone who still simply believes what they’re told after all that stuff above needs to have a reality check.  

     Anyone with a functioning brain and the discipline to think for themselves knew trump was right when talking about being wire tapped, that his campaign was being spied on and once elected it continued, that folks were trying to take him down from the inside.  Why would he make it up, when we all know how the rich and powerful take care of each other. They literally paid to have a bs dossier created and used it to get a warrant to spy on a campaign staffer.  All of this stuff is verifiable and yet they willfully chose to believe a media narrative that simply didn’t make any sense.

    Who would be ok with an outsider like trump coming in to mess up their comfy lifestyle?  It’s easy to see that those inside Washington want to stay in Washington, elected officials want to keep their jobs… both sides have their serious scummery, so the reasons to get rid of him ran deep.  When trump said he was going to drain the swamp they went cookoo.  
    The sad thing to me is that people actually believed it. They fell for the propaganda, the msm state run media.
    all I can say about the hunter emails is that they obviously show exactly what we said they show, and his father is absolutely involved.  None of this is a surprise, the only surprise is that the NYT actually had the balls to say it.  Probably to save face and attempt to win back some of the lost readers of course.  Will anything come of it or happen? Nope.  The DOJ is full of insiders and no one wants to shake it up.  

    I have rising confidence that most Americans are actually Americans in the truest sense of the word. People are beginning to realize that there's an agenda being implemented against them by the very people they're supposed to be able to trust, the legacy media, their elected representatives, the plethora of bureaus and agencies, etc. The good news there is that Americans, the real ones, outnumber the the fake ones by a huge margin. The writing is on the wall for the fakes and it would behoove them to read it.

    hopefully we eventually get to listen to Joey Softserve talk about this.  He’ll talk about Beau and burn pits and cancer or something instead, but it’ll be fun to watch him forget what he’s doing as usual.
    And some folks believe in indictments incoming. Merry Xmas.
    Haha.  We are waiting for these indictments.  Waiting and waiting and waiting.  Continuing with the Xmas theme, I think we have a better chance of Santa Clause being real than Trump being indicted.  

    It is crazy times though.  Seeing how Russia had only one independent media company (which is not shutdown) makes me think about how it is very possible for the US to go this direction.  This Hunter laptop is a clear example of how the mainstream media has no interest in digging into stories that go against their liberal viewpoints, and actually support false storylines for political gain.  Numerous examples of social media blocking people for posting about topics until the liberals finally approve (for example, suggesting COVID19 was lab created).   We are fortunate that there a multiple news sources that we can use to get information, but unfortunately practically all news at this point comes with an agenda on either side.  


  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,418
    Hobbes said:
    It doesn’t surprise me one bit that the folks on this board ate it all up.  They ate up “Russian collusion.”They ate up that the hunter laptop was “Russian disinformation,” even though it made patently no sense whatsoever when all obvious info points to the guy being a mess who forgot he even brought his laptop to the store. They ate up any media narrative spit at them for the last 5 years.  They’re currently eating up that our inflation is Russia’s or Covid’s fault, and that rising gas prices are Russia’s fault as well.  Maybe some of it is our own fault? Maybe poor policy decisions by idiots we’ve elected have gotten us where we are? Some on here seriously think that there’s a Pee tape.  Still.  For real.  Many folks (independents for sure, finally) are beginning to realize they’ve been taken for a ride and to not listen to what they’re being told. Anyone who still simply believes what they’re told after all that stuff above needs to have a reality check.  

     Anyone with a functioning brain and the discipline to think for themselves knew trump was right when talking about being wire tapped, that his campaign was being spied on and once elected it continued, that folks were trying to take him down from the inside.  Why would he make it up, when we all know how the rich and powerful take care of each other. They literally paid to have a bs dossier created and used it to get a warrant to spy on a campaign staffer.  All of this stuff is verifiable and yet they willfully chose to believe a media narrative that simply didn’t make any sense.

    Who would be ok with an outsider like trump coming in to mess up their comfy lifestyle?  It’s easy to see that those inside Washington want to stay in Washington, elected officials want to keep their jobs… both sides have their serious scummery, so the reasons to get rid of him ran deep.  When trump said he was going to drain the swamp they went cookoo.  
    The sad thing to me is that people actually believed it. They fell for the propaganda, the msm state run media.
    all I can say about the hunter emails is that they obviously show exactly what we said they show, and his father is absolutely involved.  None of this is a surprise, the only surprise is that the NYT actually had the balls to say it.  Probably to save face and attempt to win back some of the lost readers of course.  Will anything come of it or happen? Nope.  The DOJ is full of insiders and no one wants to shake it up.  

    I have rising confidence that most Americans are actually Americans in the truest sense of the word. People are beginning to realize that there's an agenda being implemented against them by the very people they're supposed to be able to trust, the legacy media, their elected representatives, the plethora of bureaus and agencies, etc. The good news there is that Americans, the real ones, outnumber the the fake ones by a huge margin. The writing is on the wall for the fakes and it would behoove them to read it.

    hopefully we eventually get to listen to Joey Softserve talk about this.  He’ll talk about Beau and burn pits and cancer or something instead, but it’ll be fun to watch him forget what he’s doing as usual.
    Can you please explain what it means to be an actual American "in the truest sense of the word" and what distinguishes "the real ones" from "the fake ones?"
    First off he will NEVER respond to you.
    Second that's the 3rd rule in the QtRUmplican troll playbook."Drop some ignorant nonsense then don't respond to the responses ".
    As to your question. "Actual Americans" are white and male and want America to return to the 1950s and in a perfect world return to the 1850s.

    And these are real Americans....