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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Joe Biden is a liar. He lied about Hunter's laptop and blamed it on Russia multiple times during the election.

    "n 2020, Joe Biden responded to Donald Trump bringing up the Post‘s story by saying on live television:

    There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant. Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except his good friend Rudy Giuliani."


    There are other recorded statements made by Joe Biden saying that this laptop wasn't real.
  • JB16057
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Yea, sure. All some democrat plot to interfere in the election and damage POOTWH because there was absolutely no reason to question the provenance of Hunter’s alleged laptop and the purported contents within. Fuck is this country fucked. And I encourage you to read the full article. A hint though, the story begins with a legally blind computer repair shop owner who couldn’t identify who dropped off the three laptops and ends with the alleged copies of the hard drives being handed over by Ruddy Ghouliani. Yup, no need to question that, just accept it as what it’s claimed to be. But seriously, look at the timeline and who’s involved.

    Even today, the full story isn’t clear. Is the story straightforward — Mac Isaac obtained a laptop, thought it might be relevant to national politics and then found only one taker, Giuliani, for the material? Was the material reportedly circulating in Ukraine the same stuff? Nonexistent? Obtained from an iCloud hack independently? Did Guo learn about the laptop from Bannon, with mentions of the material in September following from there? It is of course always easy to ask infinite questions when you’re skeptical, but that the answers to this aren’t known now reinforces the reasons for skepticism 18 months ago.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/18/forgotten-and-ignored-context-emergence-hunter-biden-laptop-story/

    I can't read the story because you have to pay to read it. What you didn't point out is that the FBI took a copy of it in December of 2019. It wasn't until many months later that Giuliani was given a copy.

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,162
    JB16057 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Yea, sure. All some democrat plot to interfere in the election and damage POOTWH because there was absolutely no reason to question the provenance of Hunter’s alleged laptop and the purported contents within. Fuck is this country fucked. And I encourage you to read the full article. A hint though, the story begins with a legally blind computer repair shop owner who couldn’t identify who dropped off the three laptops and ends with the alleged copies of the hard drives being handed over by Ruddy Ghouliani. Yup, no need to question that, just accept it as what it’s claimed to be. But seriously, look at the timeline and who’s involved.

    Even today, the full story isn’t clear. Is the story straightforward — Mac Isaac obtained a laptop, thought it might be relevant to national politics and then found only one taker, Giuliani, for the material? Was the material reportedly circulating in Ukraine the same stuff? Nonexistent? Obtained from an iCloud hack independently? Did Guo learn about the laptop from Bannon, with mentions of the material in September following from there? It is of course always easy to ask infinite questions when you’re skeptical, but that the answers to this aren’t known now reinforces the reasons for skepticism 18 months ago.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/18/forgotten-and-ignored-context-emergence-hunter-biden-laptop-story/

    I can't read the story because you have to pay to read it. What you didn't point out is that the FBI took a copy of it in December of 2019. It wasn't until many months later that Giuliani was given a copy.

    How did Ruddy Ghouliani get it? And who might have had it before he did? This was POOTWH's DOJ and FBI. I guess candidate Biden still pulled the strings at DOJ? C'mon, man. Ruddy Ghouliani, the same guy who's been disbarred for filing false election lawsuit claims and is currently being sued for defamation. Sure, that guy is a trove of honest investigative work.
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  • mrussel1
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    JB16057 said:
    Joe Biden is a liar. He lied about Hunter's laptop and blamed it on Russia multiple times during the election.

    "n 2020, Joe Biden responded to Donald Trump bringing up the Post‘s story by saying on live television:

    There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant. Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except his good friend Rudy Giuliani."


    There are other recorded statements made by Joe Biden saying that this laptop wasn't real.
    Maybe his son told him it wasn't real.  This makes him a liar?  Seriously?  You have to have serious perspective issues to think this laptop should matter to anyone but Hunter.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    It doesn’t surprise me one bit that the folks on this board ate it all up.  They ate up “Russian collusion.”They ate up that the hunter laptop was “Russian disinformation,” even though it made patently no sense whatsoever when all obvious info points to the guy being a mess who forgot he even brought his laptop to the store. They ate up any media narrative spit at them for the last 5 years.  They’re currently eating up that our inflation is Russia’s or Covid’s fault, and that rising gas prices are Russia’s fault as well.  Maybe some of it is our own fault? Maybe poor policy decisions by idiots we’ve elected have gotten us where we are? Some on here seriously think that there’s a Pee tape.  Still.  For real.  Many folks (independents for sure, finally) are beginning to realize they’ve been taken for a ride and to not listen to what they’re being told. Anyone who still simply believes what they’re told after all that stuff above needs to have a reality check.  

     Anyone with a functioning brain and the discipline to think for themselves knew trump was right when talking about being wire tapped, that his campaign was being spied on and once elected it continued, that folks were trying to take him down from the inside.  Why would he make it up, when we all know how the rich and powerful take care of each other. They literally paid to have a bs dossier created and used it to get a warrant to spy on a campaign staffer.  All of this stuff is verifiable and yet they willfully chose to believe a media narrative that simply didn’t make any sense.

    Who would be ok with an outsider like trump coming in to mess up their comfy lifestyle?  It’s easy to see that those inside Washington want to stay in Washington, elected officials want to keep their jobs… both sides have their serious scummery, so the reasons to get rid of him ran deep.  When trump said he was going to drain the swamp they went cookoo.  
    The sad thing to me is that people actually believed it. They fell for the propaganda, the msm state run media.
    all I can say about the hunter emails is that they obviously show exactly what we said they show, and his father is absolutely involved.  None of this is a surprise, the only surprise is that the NYT actually had the balls to say it.  Probably to save face and attempt to win back some of the lost readers of course.  Will anything come of it or happen? Nope.  The DOJ is full of insiders and no one wants to shake it up.  

    I have rising confidence that most Americans are actually Americans in the truest sense of the word. People are beginning to realize that there's an agenda being implemented against them by the very people they're supposed to be able to trust, the legacy media, their elected representatives, the plethora of bureaus and agencies, etc. The good news there is that Americans, the real ones, outnumber the the fake ones by a huge margin. The writing is on the wall for the fakes and it would behoove them to read it.

    hopefully we eventually get to listen to Joey Softserve talk about this.  He’ll talk about Beau and burn pits and cancer or something instead, but it’ll be fun to watch him forget what he’s doing as usual.
    speaking of eating it all up:

    The world has been busy with Ukraine, so Iran, feeling ignored, shoots 6 ballistic missiles into our base.  Time to drop pallets of cash onto their tatmacs, Obama style.  Here we go, Joe, time to capitulate, pay up, and hide in your Delaware basement with 32 flavors of your favorite Carole Baskin Robbins while your foreign “policy” fails.

    every word of this is false and just garbage right wing talking points that you have been fooled into believing. so yeah, keep shitposting. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,162
    JB16057 said:
    Joe Biden is a liar. He lied about Hunter's laptop and blamed it on Russia multiple times during the election.

    "n 2020, Joe Biden responded to Donald Trump bringing up the Post‘s story by saying on live television:

    There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant. Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except his good friend Rudy Giuliani."


    There are other recorded statements made by Joe Biden saying that this laptop wasn't real.
    Lying about something and being indicted or convicted of a crime are two completely different things. But you go right ahead and concern yourself with Hunter's laptop. Where's the lie in the above referenced statement by Joe Biden?
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  • benjs
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    JB16057 said:
    Joe Biden is a liar. He lied about Hunter's laptop and blamed it on Russia multiple times during the election.

    "n 2020, Joe Biden responded to Donald Trump bringing up the Post‘s story by saying on live television:

    There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant. Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except his good friend Rudy Giuliani."


    There are other recorded statements made by Joe Biden saying that this laptop wasn't real.
    Well, I mean, I know he's not as good a liar as the last guy, but will this be enough to win some Trump voters? They seem to admire liars.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Yeah he needs to lie more to get elected.
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  • The Juggler
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    You're modern day Republican party, folks: BUT HUNTER'S EMAILS!


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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    that was an incredibly short hit piece that just kept saying "joe must have known (this)" over and over again without any context as to why, how, or any semblance of any proof that he knew. 

    what I find baffling is that people on the right keep whining about left wing media "protecting" democrats, yet at the same time lambasting that same media for sensationalizing everything, being a for-profit entity. 

    if the latter were true (which I think it is), they'd latch on to every single scandal, regardless of party. you really don't think CNN would love to have "BOMBSHELL-PRESIDENT BIDEN LIED ABOUT HUNTER LAPTOP" on their chyron for 76 straight days?
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  • mrussel1
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    that was an incredibly short hit piece that just kept saying "joe must have known (this)" over and over again without any context as to why, how, or any semblance of any proof that he knew. 

    what I find baffling is that people on the right keep whining about left wing media "protecting" democrats, yet at the same time lambasting that same media for sensationalizing everything, being a for-profit entity. 

    if the latter were true (which I think it is), they'd latch on to every single scandal, regardless of party. you really don't think CNN would love to have "BOMBSHELL-PRESIDENT BIDEN LIED ABOUT HUNTER LAPTOP" on their chyron for 76 straight days?
    I thought Fox News was the "most watched news".  Damn mainstream media. 
  • mickeyrat
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    The Juggler said:
    You're modern day Republican party, folks: BUT HUNTER'S EMAILS!



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  • JB16057
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    I know you all find this comical and that's totally OK. What you aren't taking serious is Joe Biden's low polling. This laptop disinformation has potential to hurt him in the polls so go ahead double down on this, please!
  • The Juggler
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    mickeyrat said:
    The Juggler said:
    You're modern day Republican party, folks: BUT HUNTER'S EMAILS!



    I'm not modern day gop.. maybe YOU'RE modern day gop.....
    Oh man. What a colossal grammatical error.. hahahha. I am actually ashamed of myself, Mike. Thanks for shining a light on it.  
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  • The Juggler
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    JB16057 said:
    I know you all find this comical and that's totally OK. What you aren't taking serious is Joe Biden's low polling. This laptop disinformation has potential to hurt him in the polls so go ahead double down on this, please!
    Unlike Trump supporters, we are not in a cult. So we actually acknowledge that polling is not fake and that his approval rating is only a couple points higher than Trump's was at the same point in his term. That means, at this point anyway, it is likely that that the Republicans will win the house. I hope you don't think you are breaking any kind of news here or anything. lol

    His son's laptop that was magically discovered a few weeks before Trump lost in 2020 does not, however, play a factor to anyone other than the magamoos. Sorry.
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  • tbergs
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    JB16057 said:
    I know you all find this comical and that's totally OK. What you aren't taking serious is Joe Biden's low polling. This laptop disinformation has potential to hurt him in the polls so go ahead double down on this, please!
    Biden shouldn't be running in '24 anyway, but I'm sure you'd vote Trump if he was on the ballot since Joe is such a liar.

    Maybe we can convince Kiefer Sutherland to run. His platform could be, 24 in '24!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • DewieCox
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    JB16057 said:
    Joe Biden is a liar. He lied about Hunter's laptop and blamed it on Russia multiple times during the election.

    "n 2020, Joe Biden responded to Donald Trump bringing up the Post‘s story by saying on live television:

    There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant. Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except his good friend Rudy Giuliani."


    There are other recorded statements made by Joe Biden saying that this laptop wasn't real.
    You’re literally quoting proof that he believed he was acting on quite a bit of intel and had all the reason in the world to think that it was Russian misinformation.
  • JB16057
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    DewieCox said:
    JB16057 said:
    Joe Biden is a liar. He lied about Hunter's laptop and blamed it on Russia multiple times during the election.

    "n 2020, Joe Biden responded to Donald Trump bringing up the Post‘s story by saying on live television:

    There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant. Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except his good friend Rudy Giuliani."


    There are other recorded statements made by Joe Biden saying that this laptop wasn't real.
    You’re literally quoting proof that he believed he was acting on quite a bit of intel and had all the reason in the world to think that it was Russian misinformation.
    Quite a bit of intel? There was no intel. It was a downright lie from the get go. I'd love to see the intel that shows that this was Russian disinformation. Funny how we have zero proof of intel showing it was Russian disinformation but gigs and gigs on information proving it was legit.

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JB16057 said:
    DewieCox said:
    JB16057 said:
    Joe Biden is a liar. He lied about Hunter's laptop and blamed it on Russia multiple times during the election.

    "n 2020, Joe Biden responded to Donald Trump bringing up the Post‘s story by saying on live television:

    There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant. Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it except his good friend Rudy Giuliani."


    There are other recorded statements made by Joe Biden saying that this laptop wasn't real.
    You’re literally quoting proof that he believed he was acting on quite a bit of intel and had all the reason in the world to think that it was Russian misinformation.
    Quite a bit of intel? There was no intel. It was a downright lie from the get go. I'd love to see the intel that shows that this was Russian disinformation. Funny how we have zero proof of intel showing it was Russian disinformation but gigs and gigs on information proving it was legit.

    Again, what was the lie in the statement made by candidate Biden? What was proven to be “legit” with “gigs and gigs?”

    Please, answer those two questions with known facts.
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  • JB16057
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    The Juggler said:
    JB16057 said:
    I know you all find this comical and that's totally OK. What you aren't taking serious is Joe Biden's low polling. This laptop disinformation has potential to hurt him in the polls so go ahead double down on this, please!
    Unlike Trump supporters, we are not in a cult. So we actually acknowledge that polling is not fake and that his approval rating is only a couple points higher than Trump's was at the same point in his term. That means, at this point anyway, it is likely that that the Republicans will win the house. I hope you don't think you are breaking any kind of news here or anything. lol

    His son's laptop that was magically discovered a few weeks before Trump lost in 2020 does not, however, play a factor to anyone other than the magamoos. Sorry.
    Magically discovered? The FBI received a copy of the laptop in December of 2019. How is that magic?

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