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this is where it was eventually going to end up anyway. that's what it means when it becomes endemic, like the spanish flu is now just the regular flu where people sometimes go to work if they have it. that's where this will go.lastexitlondon said:Its all gone stupid.
From today you can just test positive and walk around maskless and do anything you want.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
It makes the crazies look sane now though. It's what they have been screaming all along. Maybe they weren't crazy?HughFreakingDillon said:
this is where it was eventually going to end up anyway. that's what it means when it becomes endemic, like the spanish flu is now just the regular flu where people sometimes go to work if they have it. that's where this will go.lastexitlondon said:Its all gone stupid.
From today you can just test positive and walk around maskless and do anything you want.
I kind of feel duped. If you listened to the professionals this was bad for everyone and not just people with morbidities.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?mace1229 said:
If that is the case then I would be wrong. But according to the NYT article that wasn’t the case.Halifax2TheMax said:
Perhaps you can explain the “facts” that faux news requiring vaccination for its employees was reported on in July 2021 for a policy put into effect in June 2021 and NYC’s mandate took effect on December 27, 2021? Do you still stand by, “Faux doesn’t require ‘anything’?”mace1229 said:
That’s kind of funny, NY Times was the second search result when I searched “does fox require vaccine.” I clicked it think there would be a paywal, but it never popped up for me. Hope I didn’t accidentally subscribe at some point.mrussel1 said:
Mmmm... are you sure about that? I don't recall ever hearing that the city had a vaccine requirement for private businesses that don't have face to face customer contact (like restaurants and bars). And that requirement was for patrons I believe. What you posted has a firewall, so I couldn't read it.mace1229 said:
We were taking about the vaccine. Clearly that’s what I meant. Obviously they have requirements to work there. I’m sure they have an age requirement, require legal working status, submit ssn of tax purposes, etc. I didn’t realize I needed to explain the obvious. but we were talking about the vaccine. Fox doesn’t require the vaccine. The city does.Halifax2TheMax said:
Faux news required vaccination or be tested daily. You said Faux news “didn’t require anything.” That’s a fact.mace1229 said:
Fox doesn’t require the vaccine, the city made the mandate. Sorry, but that is a fact.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you take us for idiots? “Faux doesn’t require anything?” Dude, where do you get your information? “Just sharing facts?”mace1229 said:The Juggler said:
I think everyone knows they are located in NYC and that NYC has a vaccine mandate. I believe I have read Fox has imposed stricter guidelines on it's employees than what they are required to do.mace1229 said:
A little behind on this thread I know. But I just googled this to see if it’s true. It’s true, sort of. It’s a city mandate that Fox is forced to follow. So it’s not up to fox and they aren’t requiring any vaccines, the mayor is. Fix just happens to be in a city that requires it.Merkin Baller said:
It's even more fun when taking into account the fact that Fox News has a vaccine mandate for its employees.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yup. As someone said, it’s a death cult at this point. Deaths are at their highest level since before vaccines were readily available. I don’t think I need to tell you who the overwhelming majority of those deaths represent. Sad. But honk your horn.Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:Guess he really owned Governor Inslee and the libs? Maybe he can be a guest on Rogan's show? Oh, yea, wait a minute.
/www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/preventable-tragedy-fox-news-silent-after-guest-dies-of-covid
Bad link.
Was that the WA State Trooper who died from COVID, that Laura Ingraham praised as a celebrity for his anti-vaxx position back in October?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/business/fox-vaccine-mandate.html
But the hypocrisy comes into play when all their hosts are on tv encouraging folks to "not comply" when, in fact, they all willingly complied without hesitation.
This comment wasn’t the first time I heard someone say “o my gosh, fox requires a vaccine, what hypocrites!” When that simply isn’t true. Fox doesn’t require anything. The city does. I’m just sharing the facts on common misinformation I see.
And I’ve never heard anyone say don’t comply. I’ve heard many times several different people say something along the lines of “it should be your choice. I’m vaccinated and i recommend the vaccine. But you should be free to not be forced into getting a jab and it should be your right to protest it without fear of getting your property or funds seized.” I don’t watch a ton of fox, so maybe there are some who are saying don’t comply, but I haven’t seen it.Weren’t you the one comparing the AMT to Faceturd?
Fox chose to enforce it because they were threatened with fines if they didn’t, but that isnt the same as them requiring it themselves.
The headline of “Fox News requiring vaccine Mandate on its Employees” is misleading, implying it was fox’s decision. It wasn’t.
Edit - I'm 99% sure that's not right. I was in the City last summer at our private equity office and there was no vaccine requirement to be in the building, but a mask requirement. However one guy that was with us was not vaccinated and didn't attend dinner.
Heres the first few paragraphs:Fox Corporation, the owner of Fox News, told employees on Friday that those working in New York City would have to show proof they’d had at least one dose of the Covid vaccine by Dec. 27, removing the option to get tested weekly instead.
The new policy was in keeping with New York City’s vaccine rule, which Mayor Bill de Blasio announced in early December and which is more stringent than a contested Biden administration rule requiring vaccine mandates or weekly testing at larger employers.
The New York City mandate, which requires on-site workers at all businesses to be vaccinated, is the country’s most sweeping local vaccine mandate and affects some 184,000 businesses.
“Our policy reflects the guidelines of the mandate,” a spokesman for Fox Corporation said in an email on Monday. More than 90 percent of Fox’s employees are vaccinated, the company said.
And a quick google search that doesn’t appear to be true. They had a voluntary vaccination reporting to help with spacing, contract tracing looser health requirements for those vaccinated. That is not a mandate. Far from it actually. All voluntary, not required. And allowed you to bypass Heath screenings if you opted into it. Not a big deal. Definitely not a vaccine mandate.
According to this CNN article.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/19/media/fox-vaccine-passport/index.htmlIs there other sources that suggest there was a required vaccine? I haven’t seen one.They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?0 -
how do you feel duped? a lot of things changed over 2 years and a lot of information/knowledge was gained over that time period. this virus is unpredictable in a lot of people, healthy or not. sure, comorbs are the worst hit. but there were plenty of people that assumed they would be healthy enough and ended up in the hospital and some dying.tempo_n_groove said:
It makes the crazies look sane now though. It's what they have been screaming all along. Maybe they weren't crazy?HughFreakingDillon said:
this is where it was eventually going to end up anyway. that's what it means when it becomes endemic, like the spanish flu is now just the regular flu where people sometimes go to work if they have it. that's where this will go.lastexitlondon said:Its all gone stupid.
From today you can just test positive and walk around maskless and do anything you want.
I kind of feel duped. If you listened to the professionals this was bad for everyone and not just people with morbidities.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
mace never made the claim that they weren't. stop changing the argument.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?mace1229 said:
If that is the case then I would be wrong. But according to the NYT article that wasn’t the case.Halifax2TheMax said:
Perhaps you can explain the “facts” that faux news requiring vaccination for its employees was reported on in July 2021 for a policy put into effect in June 2021 and NYC’s mandate took effect on December 27, 2021? Do you still stand by, “Faux doesn’t require ‘anything’?”mace1229 said:
That’s kind of funny, NY Times was the second search result when I searched “does fox require vaccine.” I clicked it think there would be a paywal, but it never popped up for me. Hope I didn’t accidentally subscribe at some point.mrussel1 said:
Mmmm... are you sure about that? I don't recall ever hearing that the city had a vaccine requirement for private businesses that don't have face to face customer contact (like restaurants and bars). And that requirement was for patrons I believe. What you posted has a firewall, so I couldn't read it.mace1229 said:
We were taking about the vaccine. Clearly that’s what I meant. Obviously they have requirements to work there. I’m sure they have an age requirement, require legal working status, submit ssn of tax purposes, etc. I didn’t realize I needed to explain the obvious. but we were talking about the vaccine. Fox doesn’t require the vaccine. The city does.Halifax2TheMax said:
Faux news required vaccination or be tested daily. You said Faux news “didn’t require anything.” That’s a fact.mace1229 said:
Fox doesn’t require the vaccine, the city made the mandate. Sorry, but that is a fact.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you take us for idiots? “Faux doesn’t require anything?” Dude, where do you get your information? “Just sharing facts?”mace1229 said:The Juggler said:
I think everyone knows they are located in NYC and that NYC has a vaccine mandate. I believe I have read Fox has imposed stricter guidelines on it's employees than what they are required to do.mace1229 said:
A little behind on this thread I know. But I just googled this to see if it’s true. It’s true, sort of. It’s a city mandate that Fox is forced to follow. So it’s not up to fox and they aren’t requiring any vaccines, the mayor is. Fix just happens to be in a city that requires it.Merkin Baller said:
It's even more fun when taking into account the fact that Fox News has a vaccine mandate for its employees.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yup. As someone said, it’s a death cult at this point. Deaths are at their highest level since before vaccines were readily available. I don’t think I need to tell you who the overwhelming majority of those deaths represent. Sad. But honk your horn.Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:Guess he really owned Governor Inslee and the libs? Maybe he can be a guest on Rogan's show? Oh, yea, wait a minute.
/www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/preventable-tragedy-fox-news-silent-after-guest-dies-of-covid
Bad link.
Was that the WA State Trooper who died from COVID, that Laura Ingraham praised as a celebrity for his anti-vaxx position back in October?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/business/fox-vaccine-mandate.html
But the hypocrisy comes into play when all their hosts are on tv encouraging folks to "not comply" when, in fact, they all willingly complied without hesitation.
This comment wasn’t the first time I heard someone say “o my gosh, fox requires a vaccine, what hypocrites!” When that simply isn’t true. Fox doesn’t require anything. The city does. I’m just sharing the facts on common misinformation I see.
And I’ve never heard anyone say don’t comply. I’ve heard many times several different people say something along the lines of “it should be your choice. I’m vaccinated and i recommend the vaccine. But you should be free to not be forced into getting a jab and it should be your right to protest it without fear of getting your property or funds seized.” I don’t watch a ton of fox, so maybe there are some who are saying don’t comply, but I haven’t seen it.Weren’t you the one comparing the AMT to Faceturd?
Fox chose to enforce it because they were threatened with fines if they didn’t, but that isnt the same as them requiring it themselves.
The headline of “Fox News requiring vaccine Mandate on its Employees” is misleading, implying it was fox’s decision. It wasn’t.
Edit - I'm 99% sure that's not right. I was in the City last summer at our private equity office and there was no vaccine requirement to be in the building, but a mask requirement. However one guy that was with us was not vaccinated and didn't attend dinner.
Heres the first few paragraphs:Fox Corporation, the owner of Fox News, told employees on Friday that those working in New York City would have to show proof they’d had at least one dose of the Covid vaccine by Dec. 27, removing the option to get tested weekly instead.
The new policy was in keeping with New York City’s vaccine rule, which Mayor Bill de Blasio announced in early December and which is more stringent than a contested Biden administration rule requiring vaccine mandates or weekly testing at larger employers.
The New York City mandate, which requires on-site workers at all businesses to be vaccinated, is the country’s most sweeping local vaccine mandate and affects some 184,000 businesses.
“Our policy reflects the guidelines of the mandate,” a spokesman for Fox Corporation said in an email on Monday. More than 90 percent of Fox’s employees are vaccinated, the company said.
And a quick google search that doesn’t appear to be true. They had a voluntary vaccination reporting to help with spacing, contract tracing looser health requirements for those vaccinated. That is not a mandate. Far from it actually. All voluntary, not required. And allowed you to bypass Heath screenings if you opted into it. Not a big deal. Definitely not a vaccine mandate.
According to this CNN article.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/19/media/fox-vaccine-passport/index.htmlIs there other sources that suggest there was a required vaccine? I haven’t seen one.They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
is fox news evil? of course they are. that's not what's being argued here.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
And therein lies the hypocrisy this person refuses to acknowledge.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
Can you imagine the better place we'd be in if all the Fox hosts were as genuine as Cavuto?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082331901/neil-cavuto-covid-vaccine
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mace is arguing one small piece of misinformation, and when presented with it, you guys pivot to him defending fox as being some great news organization. it's disingenuous.The Juggler said:
And therein lies the hypocrisy this person refuses to acknowledge.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
Can you imagine the better place we'd be in if all the Fox hosts were as genuine as Cavuto?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082331901/neil-cavuto-covid-vaccineYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
When has that ever stopped anyone?HughFreakingDillon said:
mace is arguing one small piece of misinformation, and when presented with it, you guys pivot to him defending fox as being some great news organization. it's disingenuous.The Juggler said:
And therein lies the hypocrisy this person refuses to acknowledge.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
Can you imagine the better place we'd be in if all the Fox hosts were as genuine as Cavuto?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082331901/neil-cavuto-covid-vaccineScio me nihil scire
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HughFreakingDillon said:
mace never made the claim that they weren't. stop changing the argument.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?mace1229 said:
If that is the case then I would be wrong. But according to the NYT article that wasn’t the case.Halifax2TheMax said:
Perhaps you can explain the “facts” that faux news requiring vaccination for its employees was reported on in July 2021 for a policy put into effect in June 2021 and NYC’s mandate took effect on December 27, 2021? Do you still stand by, “Faux doesn’t require ‘anything’?”mace1229 said:
That’s kind of funny, NY Times was the second search result when I searched “does fox require vaccine.” I clicked it think there would be a paywal, but it never popped up for me. Hope I didn’t accidentally subscribe at some point.mrussel1 said:
Mmmm... are you sure about that? I don't recall ever hearing that the city had a vaccine requirement for private businesses that don't have face to face customer contact (like restaurants and bars). And that requirement was for patrons I believe. What you posted has a firewall, so I couldn't read it.mace1229 said:
We were taking about the vaccine. Clearly that’s what I meant. Obviously they have requirements to work there. I’m sure they have an age requirement, require legal working status, submit ssn of tax purposes, etc. I didn’t realize I needed to explain the obvious. but we were talking about the vaccine. Fox doesn’t require the vaccine. The city does.Halifax2TheMax said:
Faux news required vaccination or be tested daily. You said Faux news “didn’t require anything.” That’s a fact.mace1229 said:
Fox doesn’t require the vaccine, the city made the mandate. Sorry, but that is a fact.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you take us for idiots? “Faux doesn’t require anything?” Dude, where do you get your information? “Just sharing facts?”mace1229 said:The Juggler said:
I think everyone knows they are located in NYC and that NYC has a vaccine mandate. I believe I have read Fox has imposed stricter guidelines on it's employees than what they are required to do.mace1229 said:
A little behind on this thread I know. But I just googled this to see if it’s true. It’s true, sort of. It’s a city mandate that Fox is forced to follow. So it’s not up to fox and they aren’t requiring any vaccines, the mayor is. Fix just happens to be in a city that requires it.Merkin Baller said:
It's even more fun when taking into account the fact that Fox News has a vaccine mandate for its employees.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yup. As someone said, it’s a death cult at this point. Deaths are at their highest level since before vaccines were readily available. I don’t think I need to tell you who the overwhelming majority of those deaths represent. Sad. But honk your horn.Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:Guess he really owned Governor Inslee and the libs? Maybe he can be a guest on Rogan's show? Oh, yea, wait a minute.
/www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/preventable-tragedy-fox-news-silent-after-guest-dies-of-covid
Bad link.
Was that the WA State Trooper who died from COVID, that Laura Ingraham praised as a celebrity for his anti-vaxx position back in October?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/business/fox-vaccine-mandate.html
But the hypocrisy comes into play when all their hosts are on tv encouraging folks to "not comply" when, in fact, they all willingly complied without hesitation.
This comment wasn’t the first time I heard someone say “o my gosh, fox requires a vaccine, what hypocrites!” When that simply isn’t true. Fox doesn’t require anything. The city does. I’m just sharing the facts on common misinformation I see.
And I’ve never heard anyone say don’t comply. I’ve heard many times several different people say something along the lines of “it should be your choice. I’m vaccinated and i recommend the vaccine. But you should be free to not be forced into getting a jab and it should be your right to protest it without fear of getting your property or funds seized.” I don’t watch a ton of fox, so maybe there are some who are saying don’t comply, but I haven’t seen it.Weren’t you the one comparing the AMT to Faceturd?
Fox chose to enforce it because they were threatened with fines if they didn’t, but that isnt the same as them requiring it themselves.
The headline of “Fox News requiring vaccine Mandate on its Employees” is misleading, implying it was fox’s decision. It wasn’t.
Edit - I'm 99% sure that's not right. I was in the City last summer at our private equity office and there was no vaccine requirement to be in the building, but a mask requirement. However one guy that was with us was not vaccinated and didn't attend dinner.
Heres the first few paragraphs:Fox Corporation, the owner of Fox News, told employees on Friday that those working in New York City would have to show proof they’d had at least one dose of the Covid vaccine by Dec. 27, removing the option to get tested weekly instead.
The new policy was in keeping with New York City’s vaccine rule, which Mayor Bill de Blasio announced in early December and which is more stringent than a contested Biden administration rule requiring vaccine mandates or weekly testing at larger employers.
The New York City mandate, which requires on-site workers at all businesses to be vaccinated, is the country’s most sweeping local vaccine mandate and affects some 184,000 businesses.
“Our policy reflects the guidelines of the mandate,” a spokesman for Fox Corporation said in an email on Monday. More than 90 percent of Fox’s employees are vaccinated, the company said.
And a quick google search that doesn’t appear to be true. They had a voluntary vaccination reporting to help with spacing, contract tracing looser health requirements for those vaccinated. That is not a mandate. Far from it actually. All voluntary, not required. And allowed you to bypass Heath screenings if you opted into it. Not a big deal. Definitely not a vaccine mandate.
According to this CNN article.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/19/media/fox-vaccine-passport/index.htmlIs there other sources that suggest there was a required vaccine? I haven’t seen one.They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
is fox news evil? of course they are. that's not what's being argued here.many of them got vaxxed well before any mandates came down. before delta.his age allowed but murdoch was one of the first on line._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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I always looked at the percentages. Those have always been low. It didn't make sense to me that the % was so low with the extreme reaction we received over a longer period.HughFreakingDillon said:
how do you feel duped? a lot of things changed over 2 years and a lot of information/knowledge was gained over that time period. this virus is unpredictable in a lot of people, healthy or not. sure, comorbs are the worst hit. but there were plenty of people that assumed they would be healthy enough and ended up in the hospital and some dying.tempo_n_groove said:
It makes the crazies look sane now though. It's what they have been screaming all along. Maybe they weren't crazy?HughFreakingDillon said:
this is where it was eventually going to end up anyway. that's what it means when it becomes endemic, like the spanish flu is now just the regular flu where people sometimes go to work if they have it. that's where this will go.lastexitlondon said:Its all gone stupid.
From today you can just test positive and walk around maskless and do anything you want.
I kind of feel duped. If you listened to the professionals this was bad for everyone and not just people with morbidities.0 -
Why do you feel duped? What makes you think you haven't been protected from severe illness? You don't know what could have happened.tempo_n_groove said:
It makes the crazies look sane now though. It's what they have been screaming all along. Maybe they weren't crazy?HughFreakingDillon said:
this is where it was eventually going to end up anyway. that's what it means when it becomes endemic, like the spanish flu is now just the regular flu where people sometimes go to work if they have it. that's where this will go.lastexitlondon said:Its all gone stupid.
From today you can just test positive and walk around maskless and do anything you want.
I kind of feel duped. If you listened to the professionals this was bad for everyone and not just people with morbidities.
And do you not have any co-morbidities? Are you overweight? Is your blood pressure a little high? How about your cholesterol? These are all co-morbidities.0 -
Par for the course.HughFreakingDillon said:
mace is arguing one small piece of misinformation, and when presented with it, you guys pivot to him defending fox as being some great news organization. it's disingenuous.The Juggler said:
And therein lies the hypocrisy this person refuses to acknowledge.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
Can you imagine the better place we'd be in if all the Fox hosts were as genuine as Cavuto?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082331901/neil-cavuto-covid-vaccine0 -
I didn’t defend Fox News. I saw a post that had fade information. I corrected it. I’ve said several times their very bias and most of them there I can’t stand. But we should all be for not spreading misinformation.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?mace1229 said:
If that is the case then I would be wrong. But according to the NYT article that wasn’t the case.Halifax2TheMax said:
Perhaps you can explain the “facts” that faux news requiring vaccination for its employees was reported on in July 2021 for a policy put into effect in June 2021 and NYC’s mandate took effect on December 27, 2021? Do you still stand by, “Faux doesn’t require ‘anything’?”mace1229 said:
That’s kind of funny, NY Times was the second search result when I searched “does fox require vaccine.” I clicked it think there would be a paywal, but it never popped up for me. Hope I didn’t accidentally subscribe at some point.mrussel1 said:
Mmmm... are you sure about that? I don't recall ever hearing that the city had a vaccine requirement for private businesses that don't have face to face customer contact (like restaurants and bars). And that requirement was for patrons I believe. What you posted has a firewall, so I couldn't read it.mace1229 said:
We were taking about the vaccine. Clearly that’s what I meant. Obviously they have requirements to work there. I’m sure they have an age requirement, require legal working status, submit ssn of tax purposes, etc. I didn’t realize I needed to explain the obvious. but we were talking about the vaccine. Fox doesn’t require the vaccine. The city does.Halifax2TheMax said:
Faux news required vaccination or be tested daily. You said Faux news “didn’t require anything.” That’s a fact.mace1229 said:
Fox doesn’t require the vaccine, the city made the mandate. Sorry, but that is a fact.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you take us for idiots? “Faux doesn’t require anything?” Dude, where do you get your information? “Just sharing facts?”mace1229 said:The Juggler said:
I think everyone knows they are located in NYC and that NYC has a vaccine mandate. I believe I have read Fox has imposed stricter guidelines on it's employees than what they are required to do.mace1229 said:
A little behind on this thread I know. But I just googled this to see if it’s true. It’s true, sort of. It’s a city mandate that Fox is forced to follow. So it’s not up to fox and they aren’t requiring any vaccines, the mayor is. Fix just happens to be in a city that requires it.Merkin Baller said:
It's even more fun when taking into account the fact that Fox News has a vaccine mandate for its employees.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yup. As someone said, it’s a death cult at this point. Deaths are at their highest level since before vaccines were readily available. I don’t think I need to tell you who the overwhelming majority of those deaths represent. Sad. But honk your horn.Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:Guess he really owned Governor Inslee and the libs? Maybe he can be a guest on Rogan's show? Oh, yea, wait a minute.
/www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/preventable-tragedy-fox-news-silent-after-guest-dies-of-covid
Bad link.
Was that the WA State Trooper who died from COVID, that Laura Ingraham praised as a celebrity for his anti-vaxx position back in October?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/business/fox-vaccine-mandate.html
But the hypocrisy comes into play when all their hosts are on tv encouraging folks to "not comply" when, in fact, they all willingly complied without hesitation.
This comment wasn’t the first time I heard someone say “o my gosh, fox requires a vaccine, what hypocrites!” When that simply isn’t true. Fox doesn’t require anything. The city does. I’m just sharing the facts on common misinformation I see.
And I’ve never heard anyone say don’t comply. I’ve heard many times several different people say something along the lines of “it should be your choice. I’m vaccinated and i recommend the vaccine. But you should be free to not be forced into getting a jab and it should be your right to protest it without fear of getting your property or funds seized.” I don’t watch a ton of fox, so maybe there are some who are saying don’t comply, but I haven’t seen it.Weren’t you the one comparing the AMT to Faceturd?
Fox chose to enforce it because they were threatened with fines if they didn’t, but that isnt the same as them requiring it themselves.
The headline of “Fox News requiring vaccine Mandate on its Employees” is misleading, implying it was fox’s decision. It wasn’t.
Edit - I'm 99% sure that's not right. I was in the City last summer at our private equity office and there was no vaccine requirement to be in the building, but a mask requirement. However one guy that was with us was not vaccinated and didn't attend dinner.
Heres the first few paragraphs:Fox Corporation, the owner of Fox News, told employees on Friday that those working in New York City would have to show proof they’d had at least one dose of the Covid vaccine by Dec. 27, removing the option to get tested weekly instead.
The new policy was in keeping with New York City’s vaccine rule, which Mayor Bill de Blasio announced in early December and which is more stringent than a contested Biden administration rule requiring vaccine mandates or weekly testing at larger employers.
The New York City mandate, which requires on-site workers at all businesses to be vaccinated, is the country’s most sweeping local vaccine mandate and affects some 184,000 businesses.
“Our policy reflects the guidelines of the mandate,” a spokesman for Fox Corporation said in an email on Monday. More than 90 percent of Fox’s employees are vaccinated, the company said.
And a quick google search that doesn’t appear to be true. They had a voluntary vaccination reporting to help with spacing, contract tracing looser health requirements for those vaccinated. That is not a mandate. Far from it actually. All voluntary, not required. And allowed you to bypass Heath screenings if you opted into it. Not a big deal. Definitely not a vaccine mandate.
According to this CNN article.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/19/media/fox-vaccine-passport/index.htmlIs there other sources that suggest there was a required vaccine? I haven’t seen one.They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:
mace never made the claim that they weren't. stop changing the argument.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?mace1229 said:
If that is the case then I would be wrong. But according to the NYT article that wasn’t the case.Halifax2TheMax said:
Perhaps you can explain the “facts” that faux news requiring vaccination for its employees was reported on in July 2021 for a policy put into effect in June 2021 and NYC’s mandate took effect on December 27, 2021? Do you still stand by, “Faux doesn’t require ‘anything’?”mace1229 said:
That’s kind of funny, NY Times was the second search result when I searched “does fox require vaccine.” I clicked it think there would be a paywal, but it never popped up for me. Hope I didn’t accidentally subscribe at some point.mrussel1 said:
Mmmm... are you sure about that? I don't recall ever hearing that the city had a vaccine requirement for private businesses that don't have face to face customer contact (like restaurants and bars). And that requirement was for patrons I believe. What you posted has a firewall, so I couldn't read it.mace1229 said:
We were taking about the vaccine. Clearly that’s what I meant. Obviously they have requirements to work there. I’m sure they have an age requirement, require legal working status, submit ssn of tax purposes, etc. I didn’t realize I needed to explain the obvious. but we were talking about the vaccine. Fox doesn’t require the vaccine. The city does.Halifax2TheMax said:
Faux news required vaccination or be tested daily. You said Faux news “didn’t require anything.” That’s a fact.mace1229 said:
Fox doesn’t require the vaccine, the city made the mandate. Sorry, but that is a fact.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you take us for idiots? “Faux doesn’t require anything?” Dude, where do you get your information? “Just sharing facts?”mace1229 said:The Juggler said:
I think everyone knows they are located in NYC and that NYC has a vaccine mandate. I believe I have read Fox has imposed stricter guidelines on it's employees than what they are required to do.mace1229 said:
A little behind on this thread I know. But I just googled this to see if it’s true. It’s true, sort of. It’s a city mandate that Fox is forced to follow. So it’s not up to fox and they aren’t requiring any vaccines, the mayor is. Fix just happens to be in a city that requires it.Merkin Baller said:
It's even more fun when taking into account the fact that Fox News has a vaccine mandate for its employees.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yup. As someone said, it’s a death cult at this point. Deaths are at their highest level since before vaccines were readily available. I don’t think I need to tell you who the overwhelming majority of those deaths represent. Sad. But honk your horn.Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:Guess he really owned Governor Inslee and the libs? Maybe he can be a guest on Rogan's show? Oh, yea, wait a minute.
/www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/preventable-tragedy-fox-news-silent-after-guest-dies-of-covid
Bad link.
Was that the WA State Trooper who died from COVID, that Laura Ingraham praised as a celebrity for his anti-vaxx position back in October?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/business/fox-vaccine-mandate.html
But the hypocrisy comes into play when all their hosts are on tv encouraging folks to "not comply" when, in fact, they all willingly complied without hesitation.
This comment wasn’t the first time I heard someone say “o my gosh, fox requires a vaccine, what hypocrites!” When that simply isn’t true. Fox doesn’t require anything. The city does. I’m just sharing the facts on common misinformation I see.
And I’ve never heard anyone say don’t comply. I’ve heard many times several different people say something along the lines of “it should be your choice. I’m vaccinated and i recommend the vaccine. But you should be free to not be forced into getting a jab and it should be your right to protest it without fear of getting your property or funds seized.” I don’t watch a ton of fox, so maybe there are some who are saying don’t comply, but I haven’t seen it.Weren’t you the one comparing the AMT to Faceturd?
Fox chose to enforce it because they were threatened with fines if they didn’t, but that isnt the same as them requiring it themselves.
The headline of “Fox News requiring vaccine Mandate on its Employees” is misleading, implying it was fox’s decision. It wasn’t.
Edit - I'm 99% sure that's not right. I was in the City last summer at our private equity office and there was no vaccine requirement to be in the building, but a mask requirement. However one guy that was with us was not vaccinated and didn't attend dinner.
Heres the first few paragraphs:Fox Corporation, the owner of Fox News, told employees on Friday that those working in New York City would have to show proof they’d had at least one dose of the Covid vaccine by Dec. 27, removing the option to get tested weekly instead.
The new policy was in keeping with New York City’s vaccine rule, which Mayor Bill de Blasio announced in early December and which is more stringent than a contested Biden administration rule requiring vaccine mandates or weekly testing at larger employers.
The New York City mandate, which requires on-site workers at all businesses to be vaccinated, is the country’s most sweeping local vaccine mandate and affects some 184,000 businesses.
“Our policy reflects the guidelines of the mandate,” a spokesman for Fox Corporation said in an email on Monday. More than 90 percent of Fox’s employees are vaccinated, the company said.
And a quick google search that doesn’t appear to be true. They had a voluntary vaccination reporting to help with spacing, contract tracing looser health requirements for those vaccinated. That is not a mandate. Far from it actually. All voluntary, not required. And allowed you to bypass Heath screenings if you opted into it. Not a big deal. Definitely not a vaccine mandate.
According to this CNN article.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/19/media/fox-vaccine-passport/index.htmlIs there other sources that suggest there was a required vaccine? I haven’t seen one.They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
is fox news evil? of course they are. that's not what's being argued here.
What's being argued? Whether or not they have a mandate?
They're enforcing the city mandate for their employees to avoid fines - the exact opposite of what they are advising their audience to do.
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Nope. I said the fox hosts were hypocrites for falling in line with their company's mandate while encouraging their viewers to not get the vaccine if they don't wan it. Mace predictably said he never saw them do that. I acknowledged the NYC mandate. Thought that was common knowledge.HughFreakingDillon said:
mace is arguing one small piece of misinformation, and when presented with it, you guys pivot to him defending fox as being some great news organization. it's disingenuous.The Juggler said:
And therein lies the hypocrisy this person refuses to acknowledge.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
Can you imagine the better place we'd be in if all the Fox hosts were as genuine as Cavuto?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082331901/neil-cavuto-covid-vaccinewww.myspace.com0 -
if he said they never saw them do that, then I stand corrected, but I didn't see that. all I saw was him fact checking the mandate issue.The Juggler said:
Nope. I said the fox hosts were hypocrites for falling in line with their company's mandate while encouraging their viewers to not get the vaccine if they don't wan it. Mace predictably said he never saw them do that. I acknowledged the NYC mandate. Thought that was common knowledge.HughFreakingDillon said:
mace is arguing one small piece of misinformation, and when presented with it, you guys pivot to him defending fox as being some great news organization. it's disingenuous.The Juggler said:
And therein lies the hypocrisy this person refuses to acknowledge.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
Can you imagine the better place we'd be in if all the Fox hosts were as genuine as Cavuto?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082331901/neil-cavuto-covid-vaccineYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
It was in his response to my accurate portrayal of the fox hosts.HughFreakingDillon said:
if he said they never saw them do that, then I stand corrected, but I didn't see that. all I saw was him fact checking the mandate issue.The Juggler said:
Nope. I said the fox hosts were hypocrites for falling in line with their company's mandate while encouraging their viewers to not get the vaccine if they don't wan it. Mace predictably said he never saw them do that. I acknowledged the NYC mandate. Thought that was common knowledge.HughFreakingDillon said:
mace is arguing one small piece of misinformation, and when presented with it, you guys pivot to him defending fox as being some great news organization. it's disingenuous.The Juggler said:
And therein lies the hypocrisy this person refuses to acknowledge.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
Can you imagine the better place we'd be in if all the Fox hosts were as genuine as Cavuto?
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082331901/neil-cavuto-covid-vaccine
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Hypocrites. This should be obvious, folks.
https://www.thewrap.com/tucker-carlson-covid-safety-medical-jim-crow/Tucker Carlson Says COVID Safety Protocols Are ‘Medical Jim Crow’ (Video)
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/media/fox-vaccine-passport/index.htmlFox employees, including those who work at Fox News, received an email, obtained by CNN Business, from the company's Human Resources department in early June that said Fox had "developed a secure, voluntary way for employees to self-attest their vaccination status."The system allows for employees to self-report to Fox the dates their shots were administered and which vaccines were used.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jul/23/fox-news-covid-vaccination-tucker-carlsonwww.myspace.com0 -
I did say that somewhere in the middle of the debate. And it’s true, I’ve never heard anyone from fox, at least within the last 6 months, say don’t go get the vaccine. I’ve heard many, many times saying it should be a choice and it shouldnt be forced. I did say they may have said not to get it because I don’t watch a ton of fox, so maybe they have, I don’t know, but I haven’t seen it. Also not the point I was making. But Can anyone show me a clip of a fox anchor telling people not to get a vaccine?HughFreakingDillon said:
mace never made the claim that they weren't. stop changing the argument.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
how is simply stating facts defending anything? I'm so sick of this line of thinking. when I simply stated one simple fact months and months ago (can't recall what it is right now) about a misconception of something Trump did or said, I was attacked and labelled a Trump supporter. it was absurd.Merkin Baller said:
Defend Fox News more.mace1229 said:
I’m done with the pointless arguing with you. We were taking about the vaccine. When I said “they didn’t require anything” I already clarified twice I was referring to anything vaccine related.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your version of events are not the “facts,” as you attempted to represent them. If Faux says, “provide proof of vaccination (6 months before NYC mandated it) or get tested every day and you have to wear a mask,“ did they not “require” something?mace1229 said:
As far as a vaccine, absolutely. Are you still standing by your statement of they’ve required the vaccine since July?Halifax2TheMax said:
Still standing by “faux didn’t require anything?” That you represented as “fact”?mace1229 said:
If that is the case then I would be wrong. But according to the NYT article that wasn’t the case.Halifax2TheMax said:
Perhaps you can explain the “facts” that faux news requiring vaccination for its employees was reported on in July 2021 for a policy put into effect in June 2021 and NYC’s mandate took effect on December 27, 2021? Do you still stand by, “Faux doesn’t require ‘anything’?”mace1229 said:
That’s kind of funny, NY Times was the second search result when I searched “does fox require vaccine.” I clicked it think there would be a paywal, but it never popped up for me. Hope I didn’t accidentally subscribe at some point.mrussel1 said:
Mmmm... are you sure about that? I don't recall ever hearing that the city had a vaccine requirement for private businesses that don't have face to face customer contact (like restaurants and bars). And that requirement was for patrons I believe. What you posted has a firewall, so I couldn't read it.mace1229 said:
We were taking about the vaccine. Clearly that’s what I meant. Obviously they have requirements to work there. I’m sure they have an age requirement, require legal working status, submit ssn of tax purposes, etc. I didn’t realize I needed to explain the obvious. but we were talking about the vaccine. Fox doesn’t require the vaccine. The city does.Halifax2TheMax said:
Faux news required vaccination or be tested daily. You said Faux news “didn’t require anything.” That’s a fact.mace1229 said:
Fox doesn’t require the vaccine, the city made the mandate. Sorry, but that is a fact.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you take us for idiots? “Faux doesn’t require anything?” Dude, where do you get your information? “Just sharing facts?”mace1229 said:The Juggler said:
I think everyone knows they are located in NYC and that NYC has a vaccine mandate. I believe I have read Fox has imposed stricter guidelines on it's employees than what they are required to do.mace1229 said:
A little behind on this thread I know. But I just googled this to see if it’s true. It’s true, sort of. It’s a city mandate that Fox is forced to follow. So it’s not up to fox and they aren’t requiring any vaccines, the mayor is. Fix just happens to be in a city that requires it.Merkin Baller said:
It's even more fun when taking into account the fact that Fox News has a vaccine mandate for its employees.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yup. As someone said, it’s a death cult at this point. Deaths are at their highest level since before vaccines were readily available. I don’t think I need to tell you who the overwhelming majority of those deaths represent. Sad. But honk your horn.Merkin Baller said:Halifax2TheMax said:Guess he really owned Governor Inslee and the libs? Maybe he can be a guest on Rogan's show? Oh, yea, wait a minute.
/www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/preventable-tragedy-fox-news-silent-after-guest-dies-of-covid
Bad link.
Was that the WA State Trooper who died from COVID, that Laura Ingraham praised as a celebrity for his anti-vaxx position back in October?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/business/fox-vaccine-mandate.html
But the hypocrisy comes into play when all their hosts are on tv encouraging folks to "not comply" when, in fact, they all willingly complied without hesitation.
This comment wasn’t the first time I heard someone say “o my gosh, fox requires a vaccine, what hypocrites!” When that simply isn’t true. Fox doesn’t require anything. The city does. I’m just sharing the facts on common misinformation I see.
And I’ve never heard anyone say don’t comply. I’ve heard many times several different people say something along the lines of “it should be your choice. I’m vaccinated and i recommend the vaccine. But you should be free to not be forced into getting a jab and it should be your right to protest it without fear of getting your property or funds seized.” I don’t watch a ton of fox, so maybe there are some who are saying don’t comply, but I haven’t seen it.Weren’t you the one comparing the AMT to Faceturd?
Fox chose to enforce it because they were threatened with fines if they didn’t, but that isnt the same as them requiring it themselves.
The headline of “Fox News requiring vaccine Mandate on its Employees” is misleading, implying it was fox’s decision. It wasn’t.
Edit - I'm 99% sure that's not right. I was in the City last summer at our private equity office and there was no vaccine requirement to be in the building, but a mask requirement. However one guy that was with us was not vaccinated and didn't attend dinner.
Heres the first few paragraphs:Fox Corporation, the owner of Fox News, told employees on Friday that those working in New York City would have to show proof they’d had at least one dose of the Covid vaccine by Dec. 27, removing the option to get tested weekly instead.
The new policy was in keeping with New York City’s vaccine rule, which Mayor Bill de Blasio announced in early December and which is more stringent than a contested Biden administration rule requiring vaccine mandates or weekly testing at larger employers.
The New York City mandate, which requires on-site workers at all businesses to be vaccinated, is the country’s most sweeping local vaccine mandate and affects some 184,000 businesses.
“Our policy reflects the guidelines of the mandate,” a spokesman for Fox Corporation said in an email on Monday. More than 90 percent of Fox’s employees are vaccinated, the company said.
And a quick google search that doesn’t appear to be true. They had a voluntary vaccination reporting to help with spacing, contract tracing looser health requirements for those vaccinated. That is not a mandate. Far from it actually. All voluntary, not required. And allowed you to bypass Heath screenings if you opted into it. Not a big deal. Definitely not a vaccine mandate.
According to this CNN article.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/19/media/fox-vaccine-passport/index.htmlIs there other sources that suggest there was a required vaccine? I haven’t seen one.They didn’t require vaccine in July. It was optional reporting for tracing. Option. That’s the opposite of a mandate. Mandate means required. Optional means optional.
The city began to require (mandate) a vaccine in December. If Fox didn’t abide, they would be fined at the very least. So they followed the mandate set forth by the city. They didn’t create it.
If you continue to deny facts and various sources, that’s up to you. But I’m over this conversation.
Fox News is and has been complying w/ the NYC vaccine mandate while simultaneously advising their audience to push back against vaccine mandates.
Correct?
is fox news evil? of course they are. that's not what's being argued here.
But that was totally aside from the point and the discussion. It was posted that Fox requires a vaccine. They don’t. End of my point. Didn’t comment about fox further. Didn’t support fox. Didn’t say they are pro vac. Just corrected a false statement. Didn’t intent to make a 2 page discussion out of it. Surprising here how many are okay with misinformation as long as it agrees with their story.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
The portrayal of how things went down at Faux were not the “facts.”
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