In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:
While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.
We're not a third world nation. We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat. You want third world doctors, have at it.
India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world. They are hardly a third world nation at that.
manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?
In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:
While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.
We're not a third world nation. We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat. You want third world doctors, have at it.
India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world. They are hardly a third world nation at that.
India is considered a developing country, with corruption. Depending on your source, it's second or third world.
Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.
well you can carry around your own definitions if you want, but don't argue with me about because you have your own. I'm using common definitions. Pakistan is also nuclear, but that doesn't mean I would go get heart surgery over there. That's what we're talking about here.
I get it. It is just odd that a country w their technological abilities would be considered third world still.
Up until a few years ago their train toilets all flushed right out onto the tracks. But yeah...nukes
China and Russia are too by looking at the lists.
I wouldn't get my medical advice and surgical procedures over there either. That's the point. The OP used India as a reason why the FDA should have forgone its testing procedures and just green lit Ivermectin for use to treat COVID, even though there was no US driven, peer reviewed, clinical evidence that it was effective (and still no clinical evidence today). And I said I don't get my medical advice and information from a third world nation.
It's interesting you say that because here I know a bunch of people that head over the border to have dental work done, I know it's not surgery but they are dental medical procedures.
Understood about the medical advice. I remember the one Israeli medical finding that everyone latched on to early on. Don't hear about it anymore though.
Which border?
The Israeili study was preliminary and not peer reviewed. Every other proper study has shown no reduction of death and hospitalization. Some have shown one less day of symptoms.
Southern. Mexico is a great place to get major dental work done for a fraction of the cost here.
Yes, that Israeli study was the one I was thinking of that went nowhere.
Yeah, I probably won't be going to Mexico for anything other than to get drunk and shot.
Donkey show?
Duh, and a donkey show.
Why you ask dumb questions?
You might need to see a doctor after attending one...
And a dentist. Know any reputable places in TJ?
If you’re serious, PM me. I have dozens of employees who go to Mexico for prescriptions and operations every year. Many of mine spend their weekends there for one reason or another. I can pretty much find you anything and any service you could ask for.
No I'm not.
Dozens? I assume you hire a lot of Mexican nationals. I can't imagine going there for medical for any other reason than you're used to it.
In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:
While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.
We're not a third world nation. We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat. You want third world doctors, have at it.
India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world. They are hardly a third world nation at that.
manufacturing capacity determines if a country is poor or not?
In case the link doesn't work. Here is the jist of the story:
While the mainstream media condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.
We're not a third world nation. We actually have a formal process to test and review drugs to ensure that they work for the illnesses in which they may treat. You want third world doctors, have at it.
India is one of the leading pharmaceutical makers in the world. They are hardly a third world nation at that.
India is considered a developing country, with corruption. Depending on your source, it's second or third world.
Anyone w nuclear capabilities should not be considered third world.
well you can carry around your own definitions if you want, but don't argue with me about because you have your own. I'm using common definitions. Pakistan is also nuclear, but that doesn't mean I would go get heart surgery over there. That's what we're talking about here.
I get it. It is just odd that a country w their technological abilities would be considered third world still.
Up until a few years ago their train toilets all flushed right out onto the tracks. But yeah...nukes
China and Russia are too by looking at the lists.
I wouldn't get my medical advice and surgical procedures over there either. That's the point. The OP used India as a reason why the FDA should have forgone its testing procedures and just green lit Ivermectin for use to treat COVID, even though there was no US driven, peer reviewed, clinical evidence that it was effective (and still no clinical evidence today). And I said I don't get my medical advice and information from a third world nation.
It's interesting you say that because here I know a bunch of people that head over the border to have dental work done, I know it's not surgery but they are dental medical procedures.
Understood about the medical advice. I remember the one Israeli medical finding that everyone latched on to early on. Don't hear about it anymore though.
Which border?
The Israeili study was preliminary and not peer reviewed. Every other proper study has shown no reduction of death and hospitalization. Some have shown one less day of symptoms.
Southern. Mexico is a great place to get major dental work done for a fraction of the cost here.
Yes, that Israeli study was the one I was thinking of that went nowhere.
Yeah, I probably won't be going to Mexico for anything other than to get drunk and shot.
Donkey show?
Duh, and a donkey show.
Why you ask dumb questions?
You might need to see a doctor after attending one...
And a dentist. Know any reputable places in TJ?
If you’re serious, PM me. I have dozens of employees who go to Mexico for prescriptions and operations every year. Many of mine spend their weekends there for one reason or another. I can pretty much find you anything and any service you could ask for.
No I'm not.
Dozens? I assume you hire a lot of Mexican nationals. I can't imagine going there for medical for any other reason than you're used to it.
A lot of US citizens from texas go to mexico for dental and medical care to avoid the high costs here. I haven't myself but know many people especially in the construction trades that have went to mexico for medical procedures that have nothing but good things to say. I wouldn't be against using these services myself, but I have so far been blessed with great health and strong teeth.
Last week my doctor after a virtual exam prescribed paxlovid for covid bout 1. I'm not sure why he prescribed it when the only time had any discomfort was for three hours when it felt like someone was sitting on my chest ive had colds or cramping far worse. That med it very strong and makes one just want to sleep. Took it the first night and felt sluggish then after a couple hours it felt like I was on speed or a couple cans of Red Bull. Not sure if I want take it any more, I hardly ever get sick, I think the last time I had cold/flu may have been 7-8 years ago... I just don't like taking any medication.
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My doctor did the same thing....prescribed the paxlovid even though it is very specifically targeted to high risk patients and I am not in any way high risk, nor was I presenting anything other than body aches and a mild fever. I'm not overweight, no high blood pressure or other heart issues, no diabetes, no nothing. I didn't even bother to fill the prescription, and I was pissed the doctor on call would just throw this pill at me for absolutely no reason. I read two or three websites after our visit and saw all the potential side effects, including serious kidney damage -- no thanks, I'll pass.
Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.
Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.
yes, but all too often you have a doctor with a god complex who is somewhat intimidating and doesn't feel the need to explain anything, no matter how many follow up questions you ask. I was literally at the doctor yesterday morning and I kept asking follow ups to his seemingly inane "non-diagnoses" ("ees no problem, you fine. no fever? ees good, come back in one week if not better") and he just kept smiling at me like I was a child.
sometimes it's like a whirlwind and you find yourself shuffled out the door with a piece of paper in your hand and you wonder what just happened. I'll be the first to admit that I'm the type that it takes me time to process things, and sometimes, by the time it's processed and I have the questions in my head, I'm halfway home.
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Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.
Lordy knows I do, extensively — and have chosen not to take certain prescriptions due to various reasons. Gotta advocate for yourself!
Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.
yes, but all too often you have a doctor with a god complex who is somewhat intimidating and doesn't feel the need to explain anything, no matter how many follow up questions you ask. I was literally at the doctor yesterday morning and I kept asking follow ups to his seemingly inane "non-diagnoses" ("ees no problem, you fine. no fever? ees good, come back in one week if not better") and he just kept smiling at me like I was a child.
sometimes it's like a whirlwind and you find yourself shuffled out the door with a piece of paper in your hand and you wonder what just happened. I'll be the first to admit that I'm the type that it takes me time to process things, and sometimes, by the time it's processed and I have the questions in my head, I'm halfway home.
Did you get a lollipop? If not, you should have asked for one, if just to see their reaction. When you get the script filled, do you ask the pharmacist any questions? They always ask me if I have any questions and I usually don't because I asked the doctor who prescribed it but if I forgot the answer or am still unsure, I ask the pharmacist. Sucks to have folks in-line behind you boring holes in your back but oh well, my money is just as green as theirs and my health and time just as valuable.
Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.
Lordy knows I do, extensively — and have chosen not to take certain prescriptions due to various reasons. Gotta advocate for yourself!
You are truly the only person who can be your own best champion for yourself. Unless you can't.
Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.
yes, but all too often you have a doctor with a god complex who is somewhat intimidating and doesn't feel the need to explain anything, no matter how many follow up questions you ask. I was literally at the doctor yesterday morning and I kept asking follow ups to his seemingly inane "non-diagnoses" ("ees no problem, you fine. no fever? ees good, come back in one week if not better") and he just kept smiling at me like I was a child.
sometimes it's like a whirlwind and you find yourself shuffled out the door with a piece of paper in your hand and you wonder what just happened. I'll be the first to admit that I'm the type that it takes me time to process things, and sometimes, by the time it's processed and I have the questions in my head, I'm halfway home.
Did you get a lollipop? If not, you should have asked for one, if just to see their reaction. When you get the script filled, do you ask the pharmacist any questions? They always ask me if I have any questions and I usually don't because I asked the doctor who prescribed it but if I forgot the answer or am still unsure, I ask the pharmacist. Sucks to have folks in-line behind you boring holes in your back but oh well, my money is just as green as theirs and my health and time just as valuable.
it's funny, the last time I had a script filled, there was a few questions I had that I thought of after I left my doctor's office, and so I asked the pharamacist. She was equally as uninterested as my doctor usually is (my wife later confirmed she's had the same experience with the same pharamacist). So I said "fuck it" and didn't use it.
Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.
yes, but all too often you have a doctor with a god complex who is somewhat intimidating and doesn't feel the need to explain anything, no matter how many follow up questions you ask. I was literally at the doctor yesterday morning and I kept asking follow ups to his seemingly inane "non-diagnoses" ("ees no problem, you fine. no fever? ees good, come back in one week if not better") and he just kept smiling at me like I was a child.
sometimes it's like a whirlwind and you find yourself shuffled out the door with a piece of paper in your hand and you wonder what just happened. I'll be the first to admit that I'm the type that it takes me time to process things, and sometimes, by the time it's processed and I have the questions in my head, I'm halfway home.
Did you get a lollipop? If not, you should have asked for one, if just to see their reaction. When you get the script filled, do you ask the pharmacist any questions? They always ask me if I have any questions and I usually don't because I asked the doctor who prescribed it but if I forgot the answer or am still unsure, I ask the pharmacist. Sucks to have folks in-line behind you boring holes in your back but oh well, my money is just as green as theirs and my health and time just as valuable.
it's funny, the last time I had a script filled, there was a few questions I had that I thought of after I left my doctor's office, and so I asked the pharamacist. She was equally as uninterested as my doctor usually is (my wife later confirmed she's had the same experience with the same pharamacist). So I said "fuck it" and didn't use it.
I like my Dr but yeah they move you in and out so fast it's hard to get much comfort from their advice.
And they are always just typing shit...I get that they are documenting everything but it's like talking to someone who is on their phone all the time
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agreed. type that shit up after I leave. when I'm there, eyes up.
That's what she's thinking too.
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I’m fortunate in that my docs, while notorious for being late, spend as much time as needed with me, and are always willing to listen to and address any of my concerns.
I don’t know if it’s a Cedars Sinai thing or I just lucked out. Probably a bit of both.
Not sure why the question was asked in the negative, "Doesn't anyone talk to their doctor anymore?" as if that is what actually happened in my case or the other poster's regarding the Paxlovid. In my case, I was in a complete Covid stupor and just wanted to get off the damned computer as fast as I could and go back to sleep. I only called the doctor to begin with because that's what the CDC protocol said to do. I also already knew, as a "mild case," that the only thing I should be doing is taking some Tylenol, drinking my fluids, and resting while monitoring my O2 and heart rate (which by the way, got quite high during the fever stage and I learned that's normal).
Over the past five years, I've had quite the experience as an advocate while caring for my mom. I'm pretty sure that as soon as they saw us coming, they thought, "oh shit, here she is again." The last, most egregious fight I had to fight was for hospice care. I knew, as someone who spent 24 hours a day with her and completely in charge of her health, that every sign pointed to my mom's imminent death from heart disease. I brought up hospice as an option last December 16, and in her very narrow view of my mom's overall condition, the cardiologist said, "oh no, we're not at that stage yet." I disagreed -- strongly -- my mom got upset, the conversation ended with no hospice ordered -- and sure enough, my mom was dead on January 14, far sooner than the 6 month threshhold required for hospice. The last month of her life was miserable and she got no pain relief -- the only condition the doctors would *not* medicate her for. They were happy enough to over-prescribe 9 other pills for her heart and diabetes (and my mom was too scared to not take any of it), but when it came to the debilitating pain she was in, the answer was always "the benefits don't outweigh the risks."
I could write a whole book about the patient experience based on 5 years in and out of doctor's offices and hospitals and nursing homes with my mom. The short version is stay as healthy as you can for as long as you can, because if your disease does not kill you, the treatment for it surely will.
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Not sure why the question was asked in the negative, "Doesn't anyone talk to their doctor anymore?" as if that is what actually happened in my case or the other poster's regarding the Paxlovid. In my case, I was in a complete Covid stupor and just wanted to get off the damned computer as fast as I could and go back to sleep. I only called the doctor to begin with because that's what the CDC protocol said to do. I also already knew, as a "mild case," that the only thing I should be doing is taking some Tylenol, drinking my fluids, and resting while monitoring my O2 and heart rate (which by the way, got quite high during the fever stage and I learned that's normal).
Over the past five years, I've had quite the experience as an advocate while caring for my mom. I'm pretty sure that as soon as they saw us coming, they thought, "oh shit, here she is again." The last, most egregious fight I had to fight was for hospice care. I knew, as someone who spent 24 hours a day with her and completely in charge of her health, that every sign pointed to my mom's imminent death from heart disease. I brought up hospice as an option last December 16, and in her very narrow view of my mom's overall condition, the cardiologist said, "oh no, we're not at that stage yet." I disagreed -- strongly -- my mom got upset, the conversation ended with no hospice ordered -- and sure enough, my mom was dead on January 14, far sooner than the 6 month threshhold required for hospice. The last month of her life was miserable and she got no pain relief -- the only condition the doctors would *not* medicate her for. They were happy enough to over-prescribe 9 other pills for her heart and diabetes (and my mom was too scared to not take any of it), but when it came to the debilitating pain she was in, the answer was always "the benefits don't outweigh the risks."
I could write a whole book about the patient experience based on 5 years in and out of doctor's offices and hospitals and nursing homes with my mom. The short version is stay as healthy as you can for as long as you can, because if your disease does not kill you, the treatment for it surely will.
Damn, that’s just so sad — for both your mom and you. Something like that is a huge fear of mine. How do they not listen to, HEAR, their patients or their advocates? Makes my blood boil, because I guarantee there are many other instances like this.
During his years with City of Hope, my father often referenced their philosophy (to paraphrase): It makes no sense to heal the body, if in the process you destroy the soul.
It’s so f’ed… my father broke two vertebrae in his neck 10 years ago… had an amazing doctor operate on him, and was told he needed 4 hours of physical therapy a day to recover. The insurance company wanted to send him to a nursing home type rehab place claiming he was a senior citizen… the dude was in better shape than most 40 year olds… more importantly, that nursing home only offered 2 hours of rehab a day.
Luckily my (then) fiancé’s friend is a nurse practitioner & her mom worked at Spaulding rehab, and they advised us on all the reasons he qualified for a program there, something the insurance company refuted. We pushed HARD and refused to let him go the nursing home and presented all the reasons our friends advised us on…. The hospital agreed with us, and the insurance company relented, sent him to Spaulding and he walked 30’ a week after breaking his neck & danced at my wedding 16 months later.
Probably never would have happened if we didn’t advocate & let him go to that obviously less expensive nursing home.
You are the single greatest advocate for yourself, provided you’re capable. That said, you can’t control what or how the doctors you speak with react and recommend. Ultimately, the decision to take or not take their advice rests on you. Second opinions, finding new doctors and seeking recommendations from folks in the know or with previous experience with doctor’s offices, healthcare systems, etc. all play a part. My point being, asking yourself “why did the doctor prescribe this” just before you’re supposed to take it is too late in the process and isn’t on the doctor, it’s on you.
I don’t say this to be glib or combative as I’ve been through the healthcare wringer with hospice, children’s hospital ERs, cancer, major surgery, end of life, dementia, for family and friends, and know what it’s like. For the wealth of this nation, our healthcare sure can suck. Like everything transactional, it comes down to the people involved.
But no one can have it all figured out. Mistakes and misdiagnoses are made. Plus, there are rarely, if ever, any guarantees when it comes to health matters.
I sure wish there were but it’s simply the nature of illnesses.
Yes, they are human -- with the same fallible ego that all the rest of us have to recognize in ourselves and stay open to alternatives. My chiropractor once shared with me that doctors treat "normal" as a numerical range, and completely ignore the fact that not every body presents within that range. They miss A LOT and they misdiagnose A LOT.
I had an epiphany about halfway through my caregiving role, which should have been so obvious beforehand -- *medical* doctors are trained in *medicine.* It's what they do -- they spend most of their training learning how different medicines affect different "abnormalities" and then they look at their "if this, then that" algorithms and apply. Many of them have their favorite drugs, even if there might be a better drug suited for a specific individual. And in my research, I read that many doctors are so overwhelmed in their practice that they couldn't even tell you about all the side effects of a drug if you asked because there are too many drugs and too many side effects to keep track of.
With the elderly in particular, polypharmacy is a huge problem not only because of side effects but because of the drug interactions, and many heart medicines in particular will actually cause another heart condition or make another heart condition worse! Elder care is a fucking disaster. At the end, after her final post-Xmas hospital visit, I wanted to get my mom into an out-of-network EXCELLENT rehab center that Medicare paid for prior to the pandemic. We had gone there four years ago after I yanked her out of a shit hole when I literally found a pair of someone else's pants soiled with shit in the wardrobe in my mom's room. I called this rehab center again early January and found out, as part of our wonderful pandemic response (/s), the government oh-so-quietly changed the Medicare rules and said if your "advantage" insurance company has a spot in a facility in their network, they will no longer cover care elsewhere. Total bullshit. We would have had to come up with $30,000 up front to put her in a place that wouldn't kill her. Instead she went into another shit hole Kaiser approved facility (don't get me started on Kaiser and their "leadership managed care"). She aspirated on medicine that her doctor would not split up, at my request, into separate doses because the pills were too large for her to swallow. In her case, the medicine LITERALLY killed her, and I'll never forgive the fucking doctor. Her hospital discharge papers said in print "aspiration risk, take precautions" and the doctor did not take precautions. "Do no harm" my ass.
Doesn’t anyone talk to their doctor anymore? It’s on the patient to ask their doctor what the benefits are, potential drawbacks and side effects and whether there are alternatives. At the end of that conversation you can deny the prescription. Unless you’re incapacitated or unable to advocate for yourself. Then you better have an advocate you can trust to ask on your behalf. Second opinions are still a thing too.
yes, but all too often you have a doctor with a god complex who is somewhat intimidating and doesn't feel the need to explain anything, no matter how many follow up questions you ask. I was literally at the doctor yesterday morning and I kept asking follow ups to his seemingly inane "non-diagnoses" ("ees no problem, you fine. no fever? ees good, come back in one week if not better") and he just kept smiling at me like I was a child.
sometimes it's like a whirlwind and you find yourself shuffled out the door with a piece of paper in your hand and you wonder what just happened. I'll be the first to admit that I'm the type that it takes me time to process things, and sometimes, by the time it's processed and I have the questions in my head, I'm halfway home.
Did you get a lollipop? If not, you should have asked for one, if just to see their reaction. When you get the script filled, do you ask the pharmacist any questions? They always ask me if I have any questions and I usually don't because I asked the doctor who prescribed it but if I forgot the answer or am still unsure, I ask the pharmacist. Sucks to have folks in-line behind you boring holes in your back but oh well, my money is just as green as theirs and my health and time just as valuable.
it's funny, the last time I had a script filled, there was a few questions I had that I thought of after I left my doctor's office, and so I asked the pharamacist. She was equally as uninterested as my doctor usually is (my wife later confirmed she's had the same experience with the same pharamacist). So I said "fuck it" and didn't use it.
I like my Dr but yeah they move you in and out so fast it's hard to get much comfort from their advice.
And they are always just typing shit...I get that they are documenting everything but it's like talking to someone who is on their phone all the time
Yeah, it seems like we have the appointment with the Laptop and not the DR.
Ugh. Came home sick from Prague. Coughing, sneezing, and hoarse voice. I took two home Covid tests. Both negative. It is probably a summer cold. I am glad I took an extra day off work. The jet lag isn’t helping either. I got up at 4:30 this morning. It should be ok in a few days.
Thats not cool. I hope you recover fast. Some people here with the b.a 5 variants have not tested pos for a couple days of symptoms odd.
Thanks. It’s hard to trust these tests. If I don’t feel better in a few days I will get the PCR test. It really does just feel like a cold. So whatever it is at least the symptoms are not severe.
Take care of yourself, GG! It seems like many folks I know get sick when flying to / from their destination.
Thanks. Yeah traveling can be hard on the system. Plus I was running around there a lot. Didn’t get as much sleep as I probably should have. I hope you are doing ok as well. How are you feeling?
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Dozens? I assume you hire a lot of Mexican nationals. I can't imagine going there for medical for any other reason than you're used to it.
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sometimes it's like a whirlwind and you find yourself shuffled out the door with a piece of paper in your hand and you wonder what just happened. I'll be the first to admit that I'm the type that it takes me time to process things, and sometimes, by the time it's processed and I have the questions in my head, I'm halfway home.
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And they are always just typing shit...I get that they are documenting everything but it's like talking to someone who is on their phone all the time
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Plus their system asks them 100 questions that they have to answer for malpractice purposes I'm sure
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I’m fortunate in that my docs, while notorious for being late, spend as much time as needed with me, and are always willing to listen to and address any of my concerns.
I don’t know if it’s a Cedars Sinai thing or I just lucked out. Probably a bit of both.
Over the past five years, I've had quite the experience as an advocate while caring for my mom. I'm pretty sure that as soon as they saw us coming, they thought, "oh shit, here she is again." The last, most egregious fight I had to fight was for hospice care. I knew, as someone who spent 24 hours a day with her and completely in charge of her health, that every sign pointed to my mom's imminent death from heart disease. I brought up hospice as an option last December 16, and in her very narrow view of my mom's overall condition, the cardiologist said, "oh no, we're not at that stage yet." I disagreed -- strongly -- my mom got upset, the conversation ended with no hospice ordered -- and sure enough, my mom was dead on January 14, far sooner than the 6 month threshhold required for hospice. The last month of her life was miserable and she got no pain relief -- the only condition the doctors would *not* medicate her for. They were happy enough to over-prescribe 9 other pills for her heart and diabetes (and my mom was too scared to not take any of it), but when it came to the debilitating pain she was in, the answer was always "the benefits don't outweigh the risks."
I could write a whole book about the patient experience based on 5 years in and out of doctor's offices and hospitals and nursing homes with my mom. The short version is stay as healthy as you can for as long as you can, because if your disease does not kill you, the treatment for it surely will.
During his years with City of Hope, my father often referenced their philosophy (to paraphrase): It makes no sense to heal the body, if in the process you destroy the soul.
I don’t say this to be glib or combative as I’ve been through the healthcare wringer with hospice, children’s hospital ERs, cancer, major surgery, end of life, dementia, for family and friends, and know what it’s like. For the wealth of this nation, our healthcare sure can suck. Like everything transactional, it comes down to the people involved.
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I sure wish there were but it’s simply the nature of illnesses.
I had an epiphany about halfway through my caregiving role, which should have been so obvious beforehand -- *medical* doctors are trained in *medicine.* It's what they do -- they spend most of their training learning how different medicines affect different "abnormalities" and then they look at their "if this, then that" algorithms and apply. Many of them have their favorite drugs, even if there might be a better drug suited for a specific individual. And in my research, I read that many doctors are so overwhelmed in their practice that they couldn't even tell you about all the side effects of a drug if you asked because there are too many drugs and too many side effects to keep track of.
With the elderly in particular, polypharmacy is a huge problem not only because of side effects but because of the drug interactions, and many heart medicines in particular will actually cause another heart condition or make another heart condition worse! Elder care is a fucking disaster. At the end, after her final post-Xmas hospital visit, I wanted to get my mom into an out-of-network EXCELLENT rehab center that Medicare paid for prior to the pandemic. We had gone there four years ago after I yanked her out of a shit hole when I literally found a pair of someone else's pants soiled with shit in the wardrobe in my mom's room. I called this rehab center again early January and found out, as part of our wonderful pandemic response (/s), the government oh-so-quietly changed the Medicare rules and said if your "advantage" insurance company has a spot in a facility in their network, they will no longer cover care elsewhere. Total bullshit. We would have had to come up with $30,000 up front to put her in a place that wouldn't kill her. Instead she went into another shit hole Kaiser approved facility (don't get me started on Kaiser and their "leadership managed care"). She aspirated on medicine that her doctor would not split up, at my request, into separate doses because the pills were too large for her to swallow. In her case, the medicine LITERALLY killed her, and I'll never forgive the fucking doctor. Her hospital discharge papers said in print "aspiration risk, take precautions" and the doctor did not take precautions. "Do no harm" my ass.
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