Nikki Sixx: Pearl Jam is "one of the most boring bands in history"

F Me In The Brain said:

tschav said:

Whoever went to tonight’s EV show with the “Boring Fans” poster in the Motley Crue font, that was hilarious.

Did they play Shout At The Devil?

JOEJOEJOE said:

What if the feud is just a big joke on all of us?

Eddie & the Crue could be in cahoots!

F Me In The Brain said:

foriginalsin said:

Motley Crue has at least three good songs:

dr. Feelgood
kickstart my heart 
shout at the devil

They still suck though.

Pearl jam is head and shoulders above a band like motley crue. Its not close.  

If you want to use album sales or concert sales, its pj. 

If you’re saying being popular shouldnt matter, which i agree, it shouldnt, then we can talk critical acclaim. Here we can safely say that critically pearl jam has fared better as well. Its the reason why 80s hair metal is looked down upon compared to the 90s seattle movement that is a darling of the critics. 

If we are talking musicianship, here again, its no contest. Ed is an all time great singer, who has worked with many of the all time greats,(Elton, daltrey, plant, beyonce, stevie, Etc). In general vince neils voice is annoying and nasally. While tommy lee is a fine drummer, here again matt is the better musician.  Jeffs a better bassist than nikki whos quite average.  I like Mick mars, who always seemed weird and genuine but pjs guitar combo wins this as well. Too bad motley has one guitarist in this battle of the bands. 

If we are talking the live experience, please. Pj is one of the greatest live bands ever. You wont find motley crue on any greatest live bands list. 

There are bands that are better than pj, its just that, motley crue is 100% not one of them. 

Also we need to accept that we can listen to music and separate that experience from the artist to some degree. Yea I also hate motley crues general demeanor, beliefs etc. But im pretty sure they are still playing michael jackson everywhere, and most people tend to look the other way. This is the same with many artists. Phil anselmo is a racist douchebag but there are so many good pantera songs. We know led zep loved women the same way motley crue did. Its a tough choice between great songs and maybe bad people or ethics.  And you cant judge what people did generations ago when the societal norms were different. Mtv was eating up and glamorizing everything that motley did. 

The point is, I saw dirty frank at the beacon, so where are these fucking tour dates pearl jam you bastards. 

I don't think anyone here said Crue was better than Pearl Jam.
I did say that I like some MC records better than some PJ records if they want head to head....I think that is about as close as anyone came to really comparing them


BTW,  album sales isn't close.  MC by 3x.

F Me In The Brain said:

igotid88 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

foriginalsin said:

Motley Crue has at least three good songs:

dr. Feelgood
kickstart my heart 
shout at the devil

They still suck though.

Pearl jam is head and shoulders above a band like motley crue. Its not close.  

If you want to use album sales or concert sales, its pj. 

If you’re saying being popular shouldnt matter, which i agree, it shouldnt, then we can talk critical acclaim. Here we can safely say that critically pearl jam has fared better as well. Its the reason why 80s hair metal is looked down upon compared to the 90s seattle movement that is a darling of the critics. 

If we are talking musicianship, here again, its no contest. Ed is an all time great singer, who has worked with many of the all time greats,(Elton, daltrey, plant, beyonce, stevie, Etc). In general vince neils voice is annoying and nasally. While tommy lee is a fine drummer, here again matt is the better musician.  Jeffs a better bassist than nikki whos quite average.  I like Mick mars, who always seemed weird and genuine but pjs guitar combo wins this as well. Too bad motley has one guitarist in this battle of the bands. 

If we are talking the live experience, please. Pj is one of the greatest live bands ever. You wont find motley crue on any greatest live bands list. 

There are bands that are better than pj, its just that, motley crue is 100% not one of them. 

Also we need to accept that we can listen to music and separate that experience from the artist to some degree. Yea I also hate motley crues general demeanor, beliefs etc. But im pretty sure they are still playing michael jackson everywhere, and most people tend to look the other way. This is the same with many artists. Phil anselmo is a racist douchebag but there are so many good pantera songs. We know led zep loved women the same way motley crue did. Its a tough choice between great songs and maybe bad people or ethics.  And you cant judge what people did generations ago when the societal norms were different. Mtv was eating up and glamorizing everything that motley did. 

The point is, I saw dirty frank at the beacon, so where are these fucking tour dates pearl jam you bastards. 

I don't think anyone here said Crue was better than Pearl Jam.
I did say that I like some MC records better than some PJ records if they want head to head....I think that is about as close as anyone came to really comparing them


BTW,  album sales isn't close.  MC by 3x.

Motley Crüe does not have 3x more sales than PJ. In the U.S. alone PJ has 31.5 million to 25 for Motley Crue. Worldwide MC has 100 million to 80 for PJ the last I heard. MC also has a 10 year head start. Plus there was a period where PJ didn't take full advantage of it's popularity.

Good call on the numbers.  I misread when I looked up PJ and when I just went back and looked I saw Rolling Stones estimated 60 MM records in 2016.  Highly doubt they sold 20MM copies or Gigaton
  

Regardless, the statement i replied to that PJ sold more records is false.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

igotid88 said:

Plus there was a period where PJ didn't take full advantage of it's popularity.

Mötley crue let go of Vince. Otherwise they would have taken full advantage of their popularity after Dr Feelgood and had an album right before Nirvana blew up and gotten a few more millions in.

igotid88 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

igotid88 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

foriginalsin said:

Motley Crue has at least three good songs:

dr. Feelgood
kickstart my heart 
shout at the devil

They still suck though.

Pearl jam is head and shoulders above a band like motley crue. Its not close.  

If you want to use album sales or concert sales, its pj. 

If you’re saying being popular shouldnt matter, which i agree, it shouldnt, then we can talk critical acclaim. Here we can safely say that critically pearl jam has fared better as well. Its the reason why 80s hair metal is looked down upon compared to the 90s seattle movement that is a darling of the critics. 

If we are talking musicianship, here again, its no contest. Ed is an all time great singer, who has worked with many of the all time greats,(Elton, daltrey, plant, beyonce, stevie, Etc). In general vince neils voice is annoying and nasally. While tommy lee is a fine drummer, here again matt is the better musician.  Jeffs a better bassist than nikki whos quite average.  I like Mick mars, who always seemed weird and genuine but pjs guitar combo wins this as well. Too bad motley has one guitarist in this battle of the bands. 

If we are talking the live experience, please. Pj is one of the greatest live bands ever. You wont find motley crue on any greatest live bands list. 

There are bands that are better than pj, its just that, motley crue is 100% not one of them. 

Also we need to accept that we can listen to music and separate that experience from the artist to some degree. Yea I also hate motley crues general demeanor, beliefs etc. But im pretty sure they are still playing michael jackson everywhere, and most people tend to look the other way. This is the same with many artists. Phil anselmo is a racist douchebag but there are so many good pantera songs. We know led zep loved women the same way motley crue did. Its a tough choice between great songs and maybe bad people or ethics.  And you cant judge what people did generations ago when the societal norms were different. Mtv was eating up and glamorizing everything that motley did. 

The point is, I saw dirty frank at the beacon, so where are these fucking tour dates pearl jam you bastards. 

I don't think anyone here said Crue was better than Pearl Jam.
I did say that I like some MC records better than some PJ records if they want head to head....I think that is about as close as anyone came to really comparing them


BTW,  album sales isn't close.  MC by 3x.

Motley Crüe does not have 3x more sales than PJ. In the U.S. alone PJ has 31.5 million to 25 for Motley Crue. Worldwide MC has 100 million to 80 for PJ the last I heard. MC also has a 10 year head start. Plus there was a period where PJ didn't take full advantage of it's popularity.

Good call on the numbers.  I misread when I looked up PJ and when I just went back and looked I saw Rolling Stones estimated 60 MM records in 2016.  Highly doubt they sold 20MM copies or Gigaton
  

Regardless, the statement i replied to that PJ sold more records is false.

Gayle King said 80 million when she introduced Eddie at the Global Citizen in Africa 

Spiritual_Chaos said:

igotid88 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

igotid88 said:

Plus there was a period where PJ didn't take full advantage of it's popularity.

Mötley crue let go of Vince. Otherwise they would have taken full advantage of their popularity after Dr Feelgood and had an album right before Nirvana blew up and gotten a few more millions in.

Feelgood was 89. Vince was let go in 1992. They also released Decade of Decadence in 1991. With a video for Home Sweet Home. I would say MC's height was 85-91. 

I blanked on when Nevermind broke For some reason I thought it was a few months into 1992. 

But MC could have still have released a new Vince album early 1992 and, who knows maybe would have changed the musical landscape altogether taking full advantage of their popularity. 

In other words, Pearl Jam cheated. 

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Doing theatrics isn't the same as "needing theatrics". I've never heard anyone put down Tommy Lees drum abilities? And he seems entertaining (if his thing is what you dig) on stage also without the gimmicks.