Nikki Sixx: Pearl Jam is "one of the most boring bands in history"

F Me In The Brain

This thread still delivers.

mvw

Nikki and Vince are amazing song writers 🙄…WTF?!?!

… She's only fifteen, she's the reason
The reason that I can't sleep
You say illegal
I say, legal's never been my scene, oh yeah
I try like hell but I'm out of control

… All in the name of, all in the name of rock 'n' roll
All in the name of rock
All in the name of rock 'n' roll
All in the name of rock
For sex and sex I'd sell my soul
All in the name of, all in the name of rock

… Pretty, pretty so innocent
She says you ain't seen nothing yet
Brings me a dirty, dirty magazine
There she was for all the world to see, oh yeah
I try like hell but I'm out of control

… All in the name of, all in the name of rock 'n' roll
All in the name of rock
All in the name of rock 'n' roll
All in the name of rock
For sex and sex I'd sell my soul
All in the name of, all in the name of rock

… Says to me, Daddy
Can I have some candy?
Wanna be your nasty
Anytime you want
You know you can have me

… All in the name of, all in the name of rock 'n' roll
All in the name of rock
All in the name of rock 'n' roll
All in the name of rock

… All in the name of rock 'n' roll
All in the name of rock
All in the name of rock 'n' roll
All in the name of rock
All in the name of, all in the name of rock

The Crue are a bunch of scuzzbuckets.  Total scum.  So gross.

F Me In The Brain

Girl, You'll  Be A Woman Soon


All sorts of this in music...agree that it is sleezey rock thing that was accepted for some reason.
Jerry Lee to Led Zepp to Aerosmith to Neil Diamond (urge overkill) to, yes, Motley Crue.

Should not be playing that song.  Was about Traci Lords filming porn at 15, I believe. 

Too many examples of this bad taste type of crap lyrics to count, in rock and roll.  

dankind

Hey, look what I found in my comics. 

Also, this one. 

Go Beavers

HughFreakingDillon said:

Poncier said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

static111 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Just to be clear… I’m only joking about my wife. She is amazing and trusts me completely. There is no ball or chain.
I cannot imagine my life without her 😎

I’d go off with her to Uranus… where creeps like Vince Neil and Steven Tyler don’t share the same “air”. 

Steven Tyler is not a creep!

dude puts/allows his own daughter in his videos in extremely sexual performances (and especially since it's stereotypically male fantasy stuff). that's beyond fucking creepy to me. 

I think gaining legal guardianship of a teenage girl so you can impregnate her outweighs Liv in skimpy shorts in a music video by a mile.

Steven Tyler Once Had A 14 Year Old Girlfriend That Her Parents Signed Over To Him | FeelNumb.com

gross. I never knew about that. did he get pointers from Ted Nugent on this?

Crossed up my Nuge signals, too.

adropinthepark

Saw this over Twitter, finally checking in to read the forum’s take. Happy to see there have been responses that I can relate to and not just fanbois jumping to Ed’s defense.

After reading some of the Ed quotes from the article, I had a couple of initial questions:

1.) How does Ed’s opinion sit with Mike? Cause Mike had tried hard to be a part of that scene. (Didn’t know about Stone’s experience w/the scene. That just adds to my question.)

2.) Has Ed ever criticized the surf scene for their treatment of women?

Then there are my reactions to the thread. Eddie Vedder gets called a feminist simply because that is what he brands himself as. Personally, I wouldn’t rank him as one. 

In fact, his suggestion that women were taken seriously because of the clothes they were wearing is both misogynistic and not true. 

(I threw a trench coat over my t-shirt and jeans to avoid getting groped at the Drop in the Park show.)
And, uh, the only person he could appreciate in a bustier was Perry Ferrell?! I beg his pardon 

L

(I know, not a bustier. But, same category, so...)

Anyway, my impression of this whole thing is that Ed is projecting like a motherfucker.

Go Beavers

adropinthepark said:

Saw this over Twitter, finally checking in to read the forum’s take. Happy to see there have been responses that I can relate to and not just fanbois jumping to Ed’s defense.

After reading some of the Ed quotes from the article, I had a couple of initial questions:

1.) How does Ed’s opinion sit with Mike? Cause Mike had tried hard to be a part of that scene. (Didn’t know about Stone’s experience w/the scene. That just adds to my question.)

2.) Has Ed ever criticized the surf scene for their treatment of women?

Then there are my reactions to the thread. Eddie Vedder gets called a feminist simply because that is what he brands himself as. Personally, I wouldn’t rank him as one. 

In fact, his suggestion that women were taken seriously because of the clothes they were wearing is both misogynistic and not true. 

(I threw a trench coat over my t-shirt and jeans to avoid getting groped at the Drop in the Park show.)
And, uh, the only person he could appreciate in a bustier was Perry Ferrell?! I beg his pardon 

L

(I know, not a bustier. But, same category, so...)

Anyway, my impression of this whole thing is that Ed is projecting like a motherfucker.

I think he was saying women were taken seriously. Not taken seriously because of the clothes they wore.

Looks like your response falls into the category of 'how can I reject what Ed's saying by applying these rules of hypocrisy to it?'

adropinthepark

Go Beavers said:

adropinthepark said:

Saw this over Twitter, finally checking in to read the forum’s take. Happy to see there have been responses that I can relate to and not just fanbois jumping to Ed’s defense.

After reading some of the Ed quotes from the article, I had a couple of initial questions:

1.) How does Ed’s opinion sit with Mike? Cause Mike had tried hard to be a part of that scene. (Didn’t know about Stone’s experience w/the scene. That just adds to my question.)

2.) Has Ed ever criticized the surf scene for their treatment of women?

Then there are my reactions to the thread. Eddie Vedder gets called a feminist simply because that is what he brands himself as. Personally, I wouldn’t rank him as one. 

In fact, his suggestion that women were taken seriously because of the clothes they were wearing is both misogynistic and not true. 

(I threw a trench coat over my t-shirt and jeans to avoid getting groped at the Drop in the Park show.)
And, uh, the only person he could appreciate in a bustier was Perry Ferrell?! I beg his pardon 

L

(I know, not a bustier. But, same category, so...)

Anyway, my impression of this whole thing is that Ed is projecting like a motherfucker.

I think he was saying women were taken seriously. Not taken seriously because of the clothes they wore.

Looks like your response falls into the category of 'how can I reject what Ed's saying by applying these rules of hypocrisy to it?'

He said women who wore their hair not like Heather Locklear’s, but like Cat Powers were taken seriously. He associated the change in how women were treated with their appearances.

But that’s the thing: women were not automatically respected. They still had to fight for their space. Kathleen Hanna and the entire Riot Grrrl movement has talked about this openly and frequently, so I don’t know why he’s saying we were respected. 

Actually, I guess he said we “could” be respected, not that we were. 

My bad - we had “access” to respect, though it was not a guaranteed given. 

dankind

“Dancing on Glass” is a pretty killer jam from Girls, Girls, Girls—and not at all “vacuous.”

Go Beavers

adropinthepark said:

Go Beavers said:

adropinthepark said:

Saw this over Twitter, finally checking in to read the forum’s take. Happy to see there have been responses that I can relate to and not just fanbois jumping to Ed’s defense.

After reading some of the Ed quotes from the article, I had a couple of initial questions:

1.) How does Ed’s opinion sit with Mike? Cause Mike had tried hard to be a part of that scene. (Didn’t know about Stone’s experience w/the scene. That just adds to my question.)

2.) Has Ed ever criticized the surf scene for their treatment of women?

Then there are my reactions to the thread. Eddie Vedder gets called a feminist simply because that is what he brands himself as. Personally, I wouldn’t rank him as one. 

In fact, his suggestion that women were taken seriously because of the clothes they were wearing is both misogynistic and not true. 

(I threw a trench coat over my t-shirt and jeans to avoid getting groped at the Drop in the Park show.)
And, uh, the only person he could appreciate in a bustier was Perry Ferrell?! I beg his pardon 

L

(I know, not a bustier. But, same category, so...)

Anyway, my impression of this whole thing is that Ed is projecting like a motherfucker.

I think he was saying women were taken seriously. Not taken seriously because of the clothes they wore.

Looks like your response falls into the category of 'how can I reject what Ed's saying by applying these rules of hypocrisy to it?'

He said women who wore their hair not like Heather Locklear’s, but like Cat Powers were taken seriously. He associated the change in how women were treated with their appearances.

But that’s the thing: women were not automatically respected. They still had to fight for their space. Kathleen Hanna and the entire Riot Grrrl movement has talked about this openly and frequently, so I don’t know why he’s saying we were respected. 

Actually, I guess he said we “could” be respected, not that we were. 

My bad - we had “access” to respect, though it was not a guaranteed given. 

That's not really what he said. The quote is this:

" But I’m circling back to say that one thing that I appreciated was that in Seattle and the alternative crowd, the girls could wear their combat boots and sweaters, and their hair looked like Cat Power’s and not Heather Locklear’s — nothing against her. They weren’t selling themselves short. They could have an opinion and be respected."

The last sentence is his point, and he's probably talking about the contrast from being in SoCal and seeing the hair metal scene, vs. the Northwest music scene. From my personal perspective, I'm someone who moved from the Midwest to the Northwest in the early 90s and I noticed the greater respect toward women across the board very quickly.

vedpunk

Motley Crew suck monkey balls. Worst lead singer in rock history, cheesy theatrics, and nobody would care about them except for the hot girls in their videos. I have spoken. 

Spiritual_Chaos

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Doing theatrics isn't the same as "needing theatrics". I've never heard anyone put down Tommy Lees drum abilities? And he seems entertaining (if his thing is what you dig) on stage also without the gimmicks. 

Amazing. My entire post had nothing to do with disparaging Tommy Lee (I said the rollercoaster was “wild”).  When I see an amazing drummer on stage, I can’t stop watching. With Tool and Rush, it’s the entire show. With PJ and Primus, certain songs draw
me to the drummer.

Anyways… Tommy Lee is far from the biggest problem of that band live, it was only an example. You can send in your hurt feelings report wherever you want 😂

Why should I respond to the rest of your entire post that has nothing to do with disparaging Tommy Lee, when everything you said was sound.

Most of my post was disparaging Vince Neil. Tommy Lee was shrapnel.  The show was lame full of boring planned theatrics. The rollercoaster was wild (cool, interesting) but wasn’t as entertaining to me as more talented drummers who don’t require theatrics to entertain me. 

I’ve never heard anyone compare Tommy Lee to those guys so if anything I was putting him in some rarified air. Perhaps your admiration for Tommy Lee goes beyond his drumming abilities because you came in to his defence pretty quickly 😂.

Dave Lombardo is another drummer who is amazing to watch.. mad skills, no gimmicks. 

My admiration for Tommy Lee comes from their producer saying he was always positive and easy going. 

I have never care for or listened to Mötley Crüe. 

But I have some form of sympathy for Vince Neil. I would not care how bad he sings at a show. As long ss he has fun. That would be my least problem at at Crüe-show. 

You didn’t pay $500+ for four people to see it, this is where my sympathy ends. His performance was unprofessional.  The fact is the boys did enjoy it… so maybe you could say it was worth it. Personally? I felt ripped off.  Tommy Lee is part of the band and took my money with the rest of them. 

Value in a performance can only be measured by the person who paid for the show.

Pearl Jam has always been worth every penny. In many cases… it has been priceless. 

I did not pay that, no. I imagine for some people, it was priceless though. 

Seeing fat Vince Neil struggle to get up the stairs to the stage and wheeze for air on the simplest notes and grind his fat gut against a backup dancer. Poor decrepit Mick Mars stand there and not move for an entire show. Tommy and his rollercoaster (honestly the best part of the show) and Nikki Sixx and whatever he does, none of it memorable.  People who enjoyed it can enjoy it.  Priceless. 

Ironically similar to how my brother and his friend described Pearl Jam after the Stockholm show in 2014. 

- The guitarist on their side barely moving on stage. 
- Eddie struggling with the singing. Drastically more out of breath and rough than in 2007 my brother thought.
- Matt Camerons rollercoaster drum set was a highlight

But People who enjoy it can enjoy it. Like I did. And I told him that it was priceless because they played U, which should be a staple

https://youtu.be/VQMfUVU2dJU


Also, what does bassplayer Jeff Ament do that is more memorable than bassplayer Nikki Sixx? Wear a hat? Or sing Sweet Lew?

But yes, moving on to the important part of your post --  Alice Cooper was very animated and "alive" when I saw him a few years back. Had a fun time. His band though was as cringey as Mötley Crüe. Would prefer if Alice wen't more with a Ghost-approach to his backing band, than "generic rock band". But if you made a song for Friday the 13th part 6: Jason Lives and played Freddy Krueger's dad, you have a pass to do as you wish forever.

HughFreakingDillon

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Doing theatrics isn't the same as "needing theatrics". I've never heard anyone put down Tommy Lees drum abilities? And he seems entertaining (if his thing is what you dig) on stage also without the gimmicks. 

Amazing. My entire post had nothing to do with disparaging Tommy Lee (I said the rollercoaster was “wild”).  When I see an amazing drummer on stage, I can’t stop watching. With Tool and Rush, it’s the entire show. With PJ and Primus, certain songs draw
me to the drummer.

Anyways… Tommy Lee is far from the biggest problem of that band live, it was only an example. You can send in your hurt feelings report wherever you want 😂

Why should I respond to the rest of your entire post that has nothing to do with disparaging Tommy Lee, when everything you said was sound.

Most of my post was disparaging Vince Neil. Tommy Lee was shrapnel.  The show was lame full of boring planned theatrics. The rollercoaster was wild (cool, interesting) but wasn’t as entertaining to me as more talented drummers who don’t require theatrics to entertain me. 

I’ve never heard anyone compare Tommy Lee to those guys so if anything I was putting him in some rarified air. Perhaps your admiration for Tommy Lee goes beyond his drumming abilities because you came in to his defence pretty quickly 😂.

Dave Lombardo is another drummer who is amazing to watch.. mad skills, no gimmicks. 

My admiration for Tommy Lee comes from their producer saying he was always positive and easy going. 

I have never care for or listened to Mötley Crüe. 

But I have some form of sympathy for Vince Neil. I would not care how bad he sings at a show. As long ss he has fun. That would be my least problem at at Crüe-show. 

You didn’t pay $500+ for four people to see it, this is where my sympathy ends. His performance was unprofessional.  The fact is the boys did enjoy it… so maybe you could say it was worth it. Personally? I felt ripped off.  Tommy Lee is part of the band and took my money with the rest of them. 

Value in a performance can only be measured by the person who paid for the show.

Pearl Jam has always been worth every penny. In many cases… it has been priceless. 

I did not pay that, no. I imagine for some people, it was priceless though. 

Seeing fat Vince Neil struggle to get up the stairs to the stage and wheeze for air on the simplest notes and grind his fat gut against a backup dancer. Poor decrepit Mick Mars stand there and not move for an entire show. Tommy and his rollercoaster (honestly the best part of the show) and Nikki Sixx and whatever he does, none of it memorable.  People who enjoyed it can enjoy it.  Priceless. 

Ironically similar to how my brother and his friend described Pearl Jam after the Stockholm show in 2014. 

- The guitarist on their side barely moving on stage. 
- Eddie struggling with the singing. Drastically more out of breath and rough than in 2007 my brother thought.
- Matt Camerons rollercoaster drum set was a highlight

But People who enjoy it can enjoy it. Like I did. And I told him that it was priceless because they played U, which should be a staple

https://youtu.be/VQMfUVU2dJU


Also, what does bassplayer Jeff Ament do that is more memorable than bassplayer Nikki Sixx? Wear a hat? Or sing Sweet Lew?

But yes, moving on to the important part of your post --  Alice Cooper was very animated and "alive" when I saw him a few years back. Had a fun time. His band though was as cringey as Mötley Crüe. Would prefer if Alice wen't more with a Ghost-approach to his backing band, than "generic rock band". But if you made a song for Friday the 13th part 6: Jason Lives and played Freddy Krueger's dad, you have a pass to do as you wish forever.

look at the pearl jam home page for your answer on jeff. 

DON'T. EVER. SPEAK. ILL. OF. THE. AMENT. 

Spiritual_Chaos

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Doing theatrics isn't the same as "needing theatrics". I've never heard anyone put down Tommy Lees drum abilities? And he seems entertaining (if his thing is what you dig) on stage also without the gimmicks. 

Amazing. My entire post had nothing to do with disparaging Tommy Lee (I said the rollercoaster was “wild”).  When I see an amazing drummer on stage, I can’t stop watching. With Tool and Rush, it’s the entire show. With PJ and Primus, certain songs draw
me to the drummer.

Anyways… Tommy Lee is far from the biggest problem of that band live, it was only an example. You can send in your hurt feelings report wherever you want 😂

Why should I respond to the rest of your entire post that has nothing to do with disparaging Tommy Lee, when everything you said was sound.

Most of my post was disparaging Vince Neil. Tommy Lee was shrapnel.  The show was lame full of boring planned theatrics. The rollercoaster was wild (cool, interesting) but wasn’t as entertaining to me as more talented drummers who don’t require theatrics to entertain me. 

I’ve never heard anyone compare Tommy Lee to those guys so if anything I was putting him in some rarified air. Perhaps your admiration for Tommy Lee goes beyond his drumming abilities because you came in to his defence pretty quickly 😂.

Dave Lombardo is another drummer who is amazing to watch.. mad skills, no gimmicks. 

My admiration for Tommy Lee comes from their producer saying he was always positive and easy going. 

I have never care for or listened to Mötley Crüe. 

But I have some form of sympathy for Vince Neil. I would not care how bad he sings at a show. As long ss he has fun. That would be my least problem at at Crüe-show. 

You didn’t pay $500+ for four people to see it, this is where my sympathy ends. His performance was unprofessional.  The fact is the boys did enjoy it… so maybe you could say it was worth it. Personally? I felt ripped off.  Tommy Lee is part of the band and took my money with the rest of them. 

Value in a performance can only be measured by the person who paid for the show.

Pearl Jam has always been worth every penny. In many cases… it has been priceless. 

I did not pay that, no. I imagine for some people, it was priceless though. 

Seeing fat Vince Neil struggle to get up the stairs to the stage and wheeze for air on the simplest notes and grind his fat gut against a backup dancer. Poor decrepit Mick Mars stand there and not move for an entire show. Tommy and his rollercoaster (honestly the best part of the show) and Nikki Sixx and whatever he does, none of it memorable.  People who enjoyed it can enjoy it.  Priceless. 

Ironically similar to how my brother and his friend described Pearl Jam after the Stockholm show in 2014. 

- The guitarist on their side barely moving on stage. 
- Eddie struggling with the singing. Drastically more out of breath and rough than in 2007 my brother thought.
- Matt Camerons rollercoaster drum set was a highlight

But People who enjoy it can enjoy it. Like I did. And I told him that it was priceless because they played U, which should be a staple

https://youtu.be/VQMfUVU2dJU


Also, what does bassplayer Jeff Ament do that is more memorable than bassplayer Nikki Sixx? Wear a hat? Or sing Sweet Lew?

But yes, moving on to the important part of your post --  Alice Cooper was very animated and "alive" when I saw him a few years back. Had a fun time. His band though was as cringey as Mötley Crüe. Would prefer if Alice wen't more with a Ghost-approach to his backing band, than "generic rock band". But if you made a song for Friday the 13th part 6: Jason Lives and played Freddy Krueger's dad, you have a pass to do as you wish forever.

look at the pearl jam home page for your answer on jeff. 

DON'T. EVER. SPEAK. ILL. OF. THE. AMENT. 

I'm putting things into context.

I would never speak. ill. of. the. ament. He's my main in Pearl Jam Rockband.

3days

There is no argument to be made here. Clearly Motley Crue is the less boring of the 2 bands.

Let's start with the vocals. I just watched a YouTube video entitled "Vince Neil is the greatest vocalist of all time". Case closed. His stage presence is something to be envied also. No daddy dancing with him! He does these incredibly well performed jumping jack/hand claps.

Clearly Stoney G's duck walks, facial expressions, background vocals, lead vocals, song writing, and guitar versatility are no match for the always electrifying stage presence of Mick Mars. Regardless of physical ailment, Mick has always been a breathtaking fireball... even in the 80's.

Nikki Sixx versus Jeff Ament? Please! Nikki Sixx is the most underrated bassist ever - just ask him. So what if Jeff isn't buried in the mix on every album. His songwriting, vocals, guitar playing, and BASS GUITAR playing just don't stack up to Sixx's costumes and makeup. Even late 80's Jeff loses the Aquanet challenge to Nikki's superior spray job.

While technically a less proficient drummer than Matt, Tommy Lee takes the prize for most technically proficient drum kits... which ratchet up the excitement... especially since the technology usually works. But even if his upsidedown drums get stuck, there is excitement waiting for the roadies to rescue him out of the apparatus.

HughFreakingDillon

3days said:

There is no argument to be made here. Clearly Motley Crue is the less boring of the 2 bands.

Let's start with the vocals. I just watched a YouTube video entitled "Vince Neil is the greatest vocalist of all time". Case closed. His stage presence is something to be envied also. No daddy dancing with him! He does these incredibly well performed jumping jack/hand claps.

Clearly Stoney G's duck walks, facial expressions, background vocals, lead vocals, song writing, and guitar versatility are no match for the always electrifying stage presence of Mick Mars. Regardless of physical ailment, Mick has always been a breathtaking fireball... even in the 80's.

Nikki Sixx versus Jeff Ament? Please! Nikki Sixx is the most underrated bassist ever - just ask him. So what if Jeff isn't buried in the mix on every album. His songwriting, vocals, guitar playing, and BASS GUITAR playing just don't stack up to Sixx's costumes and makeup. Even late 80's Jeff loses the Aquanet challenge to Nikki's superior spray job.

While technically a less proficient drummer than Matt, Tommy Lee takes the prize for most technically proficient drum kits... which ratchet up the excitement... especially since the technology usually works. But even if his upsidedown drums get stuck, there is excitement waiting for the roadies to rescue him out of the apparatus.

hahaha, gold! 

Tim Simmons

Do Motley Crue fans concede that they are a sleazy band and thats the reason Ed dislikes them? He says he dind't care much for hair metal, but he specifically calls out the Girls x3 and stuff like that they represented.

THEBIBLEISTEN

adropinthepark said:

Saw this over Twitter, finally checking in to read the forum’s take. Happy to see there have been responses that I can relate to and not just fanbois jumping to Ed’s defense.

After reading some of the Ed quotes from the article, I had a couple of initial questions:

1.) How does Ed’s opinion sit with Mike? Cause Mike had tried hard to be a part of that scene. (Didn’t know about Stone’s experience w/the scene. That just adds to my question.)

2.) Has Ed ever criticized the surf scene for their treatment of women?

Then there are my reactions to the thread. Eddie Vedder gets called a feminist simply because that is what he brands himself as. Personally, I wouldn’t rank him as one. 

In fact, his suggestion that women were taken seriously because of the clothes they were wearing is both misogynistic and not true. 

(I threw a trench coat over my t-shirt and jeans to avoid getting groped at the Drop in the Park show.)
And, uh, the only person he could appreciate in a bustier was Perry Ferrell?! I beg his pardon 

L

(I know, not a bustier. But, same category, so...)

Anyway, my impression of this whole thing is that Ed is projecting like a motherfucker.

Would you relax. It’s Sunday. Go outside and have fun. 

Spiritual_Chaos

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

adropinthepark said:

Saw this over Twitter, finally checking in to read the forum’s take. Happy to see there have been responses that I can relate to and not just fanbois jumping to Ed’s defense.

After reading some of the Ed quotes from the article, I had a couple of initial questions:

1.) How does Ed’s opinion sit with Mike? Cause Mike had tried hard to be a part of that scene. (Didn’t know about Stone’s experience w/the scene. That just adds to my question.)

2.) Has Ed ever criticized the surf scene for their treatment of women?

Then there are my reactions to the thread. Eddie Vedder gets called a feminist simply because that is what he brands himself as. Personally, I wouldn’t rank him as one. 

In fact, his suggestion that women were taken seriously because of the clothes they were wearing is both misogynistic and not true. 

(I threw a trench coat over my t-shirt and jeans to avoid getting groped at the Drop in the Park show.)
And, uh, the only person he could appreciate in a bustier was Perry Ferrell?! I beg his pardon 

L

(I know, not a bustier. But, same category, so...)

Anyway, my impression of this whole thing is that Ed is projecting like a motherfucker.

Would you relax. It’s Sunday. Go outside and have fun. 

Would you stop being condescending. It's Sunday. Go wrap your head around everyone not adoring Gigaton.

Spiritual_Chaos

Tim Simmons said:

Do Motley Crue fans concede that they are a sleazy band and thats the reason Ed dislikes them? He says he dind't care much for hair metal, but he specifically calls out the Girls x3 and stuff like that they represented.

But what they represented is a tad more okey, if the band has "teeth".