#46 President Joe Biden

Ledbetterman10 · February 2022

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

mickeyrat · February 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

static didnt say anything about it being posted here. only that they heard about it on the radio show.

unless YOU are Michael Berry

Ledbetterman10 · February 2022

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

static didnt say anything about it being posted here. only that they heard about it on the radio show.

unless YOU are Michael Berry

He asked “Michael Berry is that you?” in response to me posting it and questioning the pipe/syringe stuff.

Halifax2TheMax · February 2022

Madness! Complete and utter madness! The horror! Just more outrage from the outraged outragers.

https://amp.palmbeachpost.com/amp/6718519001

cincybearcat · February 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

static didnt say anything about it being posted here. only that they heard about it on the radio show.

unless YOU are Michael Berry

He asked “Michael Berry is that you?” in response to me posting it and questioning the pipe/syringe stuff.

Kinda weird that was the first response.

mickeyrat · February 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

static didnt say anything about it being posted here. only that they heard about it on the radio show.

unless YOU are Michael Berry

He asked “Michael Berry is that you?” in response to me posting it and questioning the pipe/syringe stuff.

fair enough.

I want to point out something. you assume the safe smoking pipes were about crack. you can slso smoke heroin or meth as well as powder cocaine.

personally from my experience, I cant see how distribution of smoking mechanisms would help from a health stand point. but without knowing the reasoning behind it, I'll reserve any judgement for or against.

Ledbetterman10 · February 2022

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

static didnt say anything about it being posted here. only that they heard about it on the radio show.

unless YOU are Michael Berry

He asked “Michael Berry is that you?” in response to me posting it and questioning the pipe/syringe stuff.

fair enough.

I want to point out something. you assume the safe smoking pipes were about crack. you can slso smoke heroin or meth as well as powder cocaine.

personally from my experience, I cant see how distribution of smoking mechanisms would help from a health stand point. but without knowing the reasoning behind it, I'll reserve any judgement for or against.

Everything I’ve read points to the reasoning being that new clean pipes/syringes will reduce infections among users. But as I asked in my first post, won’t those just become infected too? I don’t think your typical drug-addicted person gets a new government-issued crack/heroin/meth pipe and thinks “Well I’m going to be careful with this one.”

mickeyrat · February 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

static didnt say anything about it being posted here. only that they heard about it on the radio show.

unless YOU are Michael Berry

He asked “Michael Berry is that you?” in response to me posting it and questioning the pipe/syringe stuff.

fair enough.

I want to point out something. you assume the safe smoking pipes were about crack. you can slso smoke heroin or meth as well as powder cocaine.

personally from my experience, I cant see how distribution of smoking mechanisms would help from a health stand point. but without knowing the reasoning behind it, I'll reserve any judgement for or against.

Everything I’ve read points to the reasoning being that new clean pipes/syringes will reduce infections among users. But as I asked in my first post, won’t those just become infected too? I don’t think your typical drug-addicted person gets a new government-issued crack/heroin/meth pipe and thinks “Well I’m going to be careful with this one.”

well it would be in the sharing. so user gets their own , boom harm reduction. I read the article halifax posted. thats just one small component , pipes/needles, to the overall premise. seems weighted toward treatment and overdose prevention/mitagation.

surely something needs done. this may be a good first step with some tweaks as results emerge.

Halifax2TheMax · February 2022

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

static didnt say anything about it being posted here. only that they heard about it on the radio show.

unless YOU are Michael Berry

He asked “Michael Berry is that you?” in response to me posting it and questioning the pipe/syringe stuff.

fair enough.

I want to point out something. you assume the safe smoking pipes were about crack. you can slso smoke heroin or meth as well as powder cocaine.

personally from my experience, I cant see how distribution of smoking mechanisms would help from a health stand point. but without knowing the reasoning behind it, I'll reserve any judgement for or against.

Palm Beach Post article explains the policy well. $30M over 3 years and the “crack pipe” distribution via “smoking kits” is just another dog whistle. 3/4 of overdose deaths are from opioid based products and the smoking kits are rubber tips for pipes, screens and alcohol wipes to try to prevent the spread of Hep A+B, among other things. Kit components are determined by community based drug treatment coalitions represented by counselors, former addicts, law enforcement and drug treatment medical representatives. You’d think those illegals with calves the size of cantaloupes were distributing crack pipes in a neighborhood near you. The horror.

How do the repubs feel about treating the opioid crisis? Anyone? Fucker Carlson have any thoughts? Do the repubs have a plan to fight drug addiction or is out there with their health plan? Or they can describe it like Obamagate? Faux rage of the week.

DewieCox · February 2022

Important part to me is that it’s in the form of grant money that will hopefully make its way to people not completely out of touch or want to turn a blind eye to reality.

static111 · February 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

My point is that it is a talking point straight from a conservative radio host. Last night he literally said the Biden administration and democrats are giving away crack pipes, and here you are repeating it almost verbatim. Latching onto the safe smoking kit only serves to completely discredit and illegitimize what looks to be a program that is actually about helping people with severe drug problems. And based on the program it doesn't look like it is all about giving away crack pipes.

cincybearcat · February 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mickeyrat said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

static didnt say anything about it being posted here. only that they heard about it on the radio show.

unless YOU are Michael Berry

He asked “Michael Berry is that you?” in response to me posting it and questioning the pipe/syringe stuff.

fair enough.

I want to point out something. you assume the safe smoking pipes were about crack. you can slso smoke heroin or meth as well as powder cocaine.

personally from my experience, I cant see how distribution of smoking mechanisms would help from a health stand point. but without knowing the reasoning behind it, I'll reserve any judgement for or against.

Everything I’ve read points to the reasoning being that new clean pipes/syringes will reduce infections among users. But as I asked in my first post, won’t those just become infected too? I don’t think your typical drug-addicted person gets a new government-issued crack/heroin/meth pipe and thinks “Well I’m going to be careful with this one.”

Exactly. Tone deaf democrats. Shocked.

cincybearcat · February 2022

Overall though seems like some decent content. No idea why they feel the need to add crap like that

The Juggler · February 2022

Well Fox News has something to talk about until the caravans show up. lol

Ledbetterman10 · February 2022

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

My point is that it is a talking point straight from a conservative radio host. Last night he literally said the Biden administration and democrats are giving away crack pipes, and here you are repeating it almost verbatim. Latching onto the safe smoking kit only serves to completely discredit and illegitimize what looks to be a program that is actually about helping people with severe drug problems. And based on the program it doesn't look like it is all about giving away crack pipes.

No shit. I posted an article that lists the other things the grant offers. And I commented “ The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough.” But you’re too focused on the fact that the conservative radio host that you listen to for “opposition research” said the same thing in regards to crack pipes. I guessing he just talked about the crack pipes and made no mention anything else in the grant though.

And you say “ Latching onto the safe smoking kit only serves to completely discredit and illegitimize what looks to be a program that is actually about helping people with severe drug problems.”

By saying that, you’re admitting the smoking kits “discredits and illegitimizes” an otherwise pretty good program. The smoking kit aspect is not gonna help people with severe drug issues. It just gives them new paraphernalia that will end up getting infected anyway.

Halifax2TheMax · February 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

My point is that it is a talking point straight from a conservative radio host. Last night he literally said the Biden administration and democrats are giving away crack pipes, and here you are repeating it almost verbatim. Latching onto the safe smoking kit only serves to completely discredit and illegitimize what looks to be a program that is actually about helping people with severe drug problems. And based on the program it doesn't look like it is all about giving away crack pipes.

No shit. I posted an article that lists the other things the grant offers. And I commented “ The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough.” But you’re too focused on the fact that the conservative radio host that you listen to for “opposition research” said the same thing in regards to crack pipes. I guessing he just talked about the crack pipes and made no mention anything else in the grant though.

And you say “ Latching onto the safe smoking kit only serves to completely discredit and illegitimize what looks to be a program that is actually about helping people with severe drug problems.”

By saying that, you’re admitting the smoking kits “discredits and illegitimizes” an otherwise pretty good program. The smoking kit aspect is not gonna help people with severe drug issues. It just gives them new paraphernalia that will end up getting infected anyway.

Your first sentence said, “the administration is handing out crack pipes.” The second one said, “among other things.” So what was the point of your first sentence since it was utter bullshit?

As for the last two sentences in the above quote, what are you basing them on? Your opinion or fact based research that you’d like to link to?

Woof.

static111 · February 2022

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The administration is now handing out crack pipes, aka "safe smoking kits." Well, not just crack pipes. The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough. Limiting infections is a good thing. But I'm not sure handing out crack pipes and syringes will do that. Won't those pipes and syringes become just as infected as the ones that are already out on the street?

WASHINGTON (WTAJ) — To limit infections among drug users, the Biden administration is creating a $30 million grant program for non-profits to purchase ‘harm reduction materials’ including crack pipes and smoking kits.
One of the aspects of the program will provide funds to local governments and non-profits to distribute clean pipes and smoking kits to help make drug use safer for addicts. The kits are just one aspect of a list of items that the funding can be used for under the FY 2022 Harm Reduction Program Grant (Harm Reduction).
While the kits reportedly aim to reduce the risk of infections for people who smoke these substances with glass pipes, the Harm Reduction funding can also help with the following:
Infectious diseases testing kits (HIV, HBV, HCV, etc.);
Medication lock boxes;
FDA-approved overdose reversal medication(as well as higher dosages now approved by FDA);
Safe sex kits, including PrEP resources and condoms;
Safe smoking kits/supplies;
Screening for infectious diseases (HIV, sexually transmitted infections, viral hepatitis);
Sharps disposal and medication disposal kits;
Substance test kits, including test strips for fentanyl and other synthetic drugs;
Syringes to prevent and control the spread of infectious diseases;
Vaccination services (hepatitis A, hepatitis B vaccination); and
Wound care management supplies.
In addition, funding can also help with key personnel, education, and require things such as assembling a harm reduction advisory council that meets regularly to guide program activities and project implementation.
You can read the entire 75-page Harm Reduction grant form by clicking here.
Selling or distributing drug paraphernalia is against federal law, unless authorized by the government. Funding for the program comes from Democrat’s American Rescue Plan.

Michael Barry is that you?

Do you mean Marion? And what about that Ford fella north of the border whose brother is oppressing all of those truckers?

Michael Berry is a conservative radio asshole that I heard blowing this out of proportion last night. I listen to right wing radio for my own opposition research. Basically, the point is how dare they that to help people that have drug problems, especially crack. It's just something very weak to get outraged over. Trying to help people, oh the humanity.

I don’t think posting about the grant in this thread, and questioning how well that pipe/syringe aspect of it will work, is tantamount to being a conservative radio asshole blowing it out of proportion. But then again, I posted it here so I guess that’s the expected response. For reference’s sake, next time, just go with like Tucker Carlson or someone else people actually know rather some obscure radio guy that you listen to for your ”opposition research.”

My point is that it is a talking point straight from a conservative radio host. Last night he literally said the Biden administration and democrats are giving away crack pipes, and here you are repeating it almost verbatim. Latching onto the safe smoking kit only serves to completely discredit and illegitimize what looks to be a program that is actually about helping people with severe drug problems. And based on the program it doesn't look like it is all about giving away crack pipes.

No shit. I posted an article that lists the other things the grant offers. And I commented “ The other stuff on the list seems reasonable enough.” But you’re too focused on the fact that the conservative radio host that you listen to for “opposition research” said the same thing in regards to crack pipes. I guessing he just talked about the crack pipes and made no mention anything else in the grant though.

And you say “ Latching onto the safe smoking kit only serves to completely discredit and illegitimize what looks to be a program that is actually about helping people with severe drug problems.”

By saying that, you’re admitting the smoking kits “discredits and illegitimizes” an otherwise pretty good program. The smoking kit aspect is not gonna help people with severe drug issues. It just gives them new paraphernalia that will end up getting infected anyway.

I am certainly not stating that the smoking kits discredit anything. I think that is what is being used to fuel the right wing rage and indignity machine.

"it just gives them new paraphernalia that will end up getting infected anyway." I'm not sure what this means...Don't help at all because it isn't a permanent fix? This reasoning could be used to discredit anything...Why build new roads and bridges when they are just going to fall into disrepair anyway?

My point is that the focusing on of the smoking kits is a right wing point that is meant to distract from the larger program that will help. It is framed and stated in a way that gets people that would otherwise be supportive of the program up in arms about the smoking kits.

static111 · February 2022

From Letter From An American

"Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) is also flailing. Sunday, on Face the Nation, he said: “This commission is a partisan scam. They're going after—they're—the purpose of that commission is to try to embarrass and smear and harass as many Republicans as they can get their hands on.”

Yesterday, he released a video saying “Biden is sending free meth & crack pipes to minority communities in the name of ‘racial equity’.... There is no end in sight for this lunacy.“

This is a wild lie made up and spread by right-wing publications, referring to a drug harm reduction program inviting applications for grants in a 75-page call for proposals. Part of that harm reduction includes infectious disease testing kits, medication lock boxes, safe sex kits, vaccinations, and so on, including safe smoking kits, which do not include free meth or crack pipes but do include rubber mouthpieces for pipes to prevent burns, and disinfectant wipes.

Drug harm reduction programs have been around in the U.S. since the 1980s, when the HIV epidemic made it clear that addressing drug addiction could stop that era’s epidemic.

Exaggeration and demonization of their opponents has been part of politics for years, as Republicans tried to fire up their base by describing their opponents as socialists, lazy “takers,” baby-killers, and so on. Now, though, these over-the-top attacks on the committee and on the Democratic administration seem to be part of a new political project."

hmm almost like a bait and switch tactic. Don't look at the right hand folks, keep your eye on the Left.

Halifax2TheMax · February 2022

static111 said:

From Letter From An American

"Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) is also flailing. Sunday, on Face the Nation, he said: “This commission is a partisan scam. They're going after—they're—the purpose of that commission is to try to embarrass and smear and harass as many Republicans as they can get their hands on.”

Yesterday, he released a video saying “Biden is sending free meth & crack pipes to minority communities in the name of ‘racial equity’.... There is no end in sight for this lunacy.“

This is a wild lie made up and spread by right-wing publications, referring to a drug harm reduction program inviting applications for grants in a 75-page call for proposals. Part of that harm reduction includes infectious disease testing kits, medication lock boxes, safe sex kits, vaccinations, and so on, including safe smoking kits, which do not include free meth or crack pipes but do include rubber mouthpieces for pipes to prevent burns, and disinfectant wipes.

Drug harm reduction programs have been around in the U.S. since the 1980s, when the HIV epidemic made it clear that addressing drug addiction could stop that era’s epidemic.

Exaggeration and demonization of their opponents has been part of politics for years, as Republicans tried to fire up their base by describing their opponents as socialists, lazy “takers,” baby-killers, and so on. Now, though, these over-the-top attacks on the committee and on the Democratic administration seem to be part of a new political project."

hmm almost like a bait and switch tactic. Don't look at the right hand folks, keep your eye on the Left.

Some saw it for what it is and some heard the dog whistle. Shocked.

Ledbetterman10 · February 2022

static111 said:

From Letter From An American

"Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) is also flailing. Sunday, on Face the Nation, he said: “This commission is a partisan scam. They're going after—they're—the purpose of that commission is to try to embarrass and smear and harass as many Republicans as they can get their hands on.”

Yesterday, he released a video saying “Biden is sending free meth & crack pipes to minority communities in the name of ‘racial equity’.... There is no end in sight for this lunacy.“

This is a wild lie made up and spread by right-wing publications, referring to a drug harm reduction program inviting applications for grants in a 75-page call for proposals. Part of that harm reduction includes infectious disease testing kits, medication lock boxes, safe sex kits, vaccinations, and so on, including safe smoking kits, which do not include free meth or crack pipes but do include rubber mouthpieces for pipes to prevent burns, and disinfectant wipes.

Drug harm reduction programs have been around in the U.S. since the 1980s, when the HIV epidemic made it clear that addressing drug addiction could stop that era’s epidemic.

Exaggeration and demonization of their opponents has been part of politics for years, as Republicans tried to fire up their base by describing their opponents as socialists, lazy “takers,” baby-killers, and so on. Now, though, these over-the-top attacks on the committee and on the Democratic administration seem to be part of a new political project."

hmm almost like a bait and switch tactic. Don't look at the right hand folks, keep your eye on the Left.

Well if that's true, then I admit I was wrong. In the past in California, "safe smoking kits" have included pipes, and California has long had needle-exchange programs. But if that's not a part of this Biden grant, then I was wrong.

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