2022 North American rumour thread take 2

Weston1283 · February 2022

They are completely forgiven if they announce the entire year of shows in “early 2022”

otherwise, this has taken entirely too long

apirk72 · February 2022

jimjam1982 said
Still less then a baseball season and baseball players pull it off. The wives and kids aren't concerned as long as income is being generated.

Baseball players also retire in their late 30s-40s

I don't know why people keep comparing them to other bands, seems like people just get upset or want even more when they do. At this stage in their career I would guess what other bands do should mean nothing to them and it shouldn't.

bootlegger10 · February 2022

apirk72 said:

jimjam1982 said
Still less then a baseball season and baseball players pull it off. The wives and kids aren't concerned as long as income is being generated.

Baseball players also retire in their late 30s-40s

I don't know why people keep comparing them to other bands, seems like people just get upset or want even more when they do. At this stage in their career I would guess what other bands do should mean nothing to them and it shouldn't.

The thing with Pearl Jam some newer fans forget is that PJ pretty much stopped touring regularly after 2006. They didn't slow down over the last 5 years, they slowed down 15 years ago. Their call, but they clearly don't enjoy touring or enjoy their families a whole lot more which is a good thing.

RatherStarved · February 2022

JimmyV said:

The entire Tampa stanza of Tom Brady's career, from signing to retirement, took place in between Pearl Jam's postponement and rescheduling of the 2020 tour.

Perfect comment. His unretirement may happen first as well.

Noload · February 2022

bootlegger10 said:

apirk72 said:

jimjam1982 said
Still less then a baseball season and baseball players pull it off. The wives and kids aren't concerned as long as income is being generated.

Baseball players also retire in their late 30s-40s

I don't know why people keep comparing them to other bands, seems like people just get upset or want even more when they do. At this stage in their career I would guess what other bands do should mean nothing to them and it shouldn't.

The thing with Pearl Jam some newer fans forget is that PJ pretty much stopped touring regularly after 2006. They didn't slow down over the last 5 years, they slowed down 15 years ago. Their call, but they clearly don't enjoy touring or enjoy their families a whole lot more which is a good thing.

All true. They get to do what they want. We get to invest a ridiculous amount of money and time into them and bitch about it. Its all voluntary for sure

bbiggs · February 2022

apirk72 said:

jimjam1982 said
Still less then a baseball season and baseball players pull it off. The wives and kids aren't concerned as long as income is being generated.

Baseball players also retire in their late 30s-40s

I don't know why people keep comparing them to other bands, seems like people just get upset or want even more when they do. At this stage in their career I would guess what other bands do should mean nothing to them and it shouldn't.

People are just comparing the drastic differences in touring between some bands. Of course Pearl Jam can and should do what they want to do. And they have for years and clearly will continue to. But when you have other bands like Dave Matthews or Foo Fighters, to give two examples, that are very similar in age and have been around a similar amount of time, the comparisons are fair. Two of the three bands mentioned tour A LOT (especially DMB) and enjoy touring. One of them doesn't. That's cool. We like Pearl Jam and wish they were like the other two from a touring perspective, but they're not, so we take what we can get. I don't think comparing is out of bounds though.

JimmyV · February 2022

I don't look at DMB's tour dates and think that's what PJ should do, I Iook at them and wish that's what PJ would do. Just one summer before it's all over.

JBob87 · February 2022

It's definitely time to issue an update.

bbiggs · February 2022

JimmyV said:

I don't look at DMB's tour dates and think that's what PJ should do, I Iook at them and wish that's what PJ would do. Just one summer before it's all over.

Exactly.

RatherStarved · February 2022

RR258111 said:

PJNB said:

jimjam1982 said:

Should be an announcement within the next 27 days! (if it's after the refund deadline that's just lunacy)

Where is the refund deadline coming from again? Was it the TM customer service call that someone posted here or something more official than that?

I posted some weeks ago about the dealine, the TM fan support sent me an email on 11/18/21 mentioning that the refund window closes on 3/3/2022.

That date is 30 days from today. If correct, under the typical TM policy of 30 days to refund once a reschedule is announced, today would have to be the day. Not holding my breath…

Go Animal · February 2022

RatherStarved said:

JimmyV said:

The entire Tampa stanza of Tom Brady's career, from signing to retirement, took place in between Pearl Jam's postponement and rescheduling of the 2020 tour.

Perfect comment. His unretirement may happen first as well.

Brady & Gronk to LA Rams 2023 confirmed. More retirements than Lio Rush & Terry Funk combined!

Gibson · February 2022

Noload said:

nicknyr15 said:

JimmyV said:

DMB played their postponed tour and announced their next one.

Haaaaaahaaaaaaaaa. Are there any other bands that hasn’t either played or announced new dates that were postponed from 2020? It’s absolutely ridiculous at this point. Almost comical.

Obviously DMB doesn't care about the safety of their fans like our band does!!! The beauty of safety is that it's a concept that's subjective, so it's got a lot of range. I've been able to NOT attend many family functions in the last 2 years that I had not interest in attending. I declined in the name of safety!

I see what you're saying, but Eddie going on tour somewhat negates the argument that they're holding out for safety concerns.

Zod · February 2022

Gibson said:

Noload said:

nicknyr15 said:

JimmyV said:

DMB played their postponed tour and announced their next one.

Haaaaaahaaaaaaaaa. Are there any other bands that hasn’t either played or announced new dates that were postponed from 2020? It’s absolutely ridiculous at this point. Almost comical.

Obviously DMB doesn't care about the safety of their fans like our band does!!! The beauty of safety is that it's a concept that's subjective, so it's got a lot of range. I've been able to NOT attend many family functions in the last 2 years that I had not interest in attending. I declined in the name of safety!

I see what you're saying, but Eddie going on tour somewhat negates the argument that they're holding out for safety concerns.

No, it negates that Eddie is holding out for safety concerns. There's 5 (sort of 6) members of the band. Eddie may not be the dissenting opinion.

Zod · February 2022

On the flip side I got an email today that Aerosmith cancelled their Euro tour for the summer.

Seems pretty inconsistent across the board, with some bands striking while the iron is hot (quickly launching a short tour during a lull in covid19), some bands toughing it out and playing regardless, and some bands will being uber cautious.

We don't seem to be getting many big act shows up here in Canada, probably due to our on again / off again capacity limits. I suppose the US (at least a fair chunk of the states) has made it a bit easier with lack of mandates if you do want to tour.

In regards to PJ I feel the same way I did a year or two ago. They probably don't want to announce it at the height of the 5th wave, probably waiting to see what happens next, then launch/announce. I would imagine if nothing goes wrong with the EV tour, that would help build confidence too.

tschav · February 2022

Well, pretty sure we've blamed almost everything to date. Seeing EV's tour is going on I think it's safe to say we know what's stopping the PJ NA tour dates...

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uglybabo · February 2022

Zod said:

On the flip side I got an email today that Aerosmith cancelled their Euro tour for the summer.

Seems pretty inconsistent across the board, with some bands striking while the iron is hot (quickly launching a short tour during a lull in covid19), some bands toughing it out and playing regardless, and some bands will being uber cautious.

We don't seem to be getting many big act shows up here in Canada, probably due to our on again / off again capacity limits. I suppose the US (at least a fair chunk of the states) has made it a bit easier with lack of mandates if you do want to tour.

In regards to PJ I feel the same way I did a year or two ago. They probably don't want to announce it at the height of the 5th wave, probably waiting to see what happens next, then launch/announce. I would imagine if nothing goes wrong with the EV tour, that would help build confidence too.

Dave Matthews is playing Toronto, and Halsey just announced a summer tour playing Toronto too. (Both outdoors though, in fact Halsey dates specifically say all shows outdoors)

Lionel Richie just cancelled outdoor shows this summer in Europe but he’s playing an indoor Vegas residency, so I think the lack of mandates in the US is certainly helping plan tours.

DEGBTI · February 2022

here is a quick list I googled of bands touring in 2022. https://concertful.com/tour-dates/2022

no reason to care about the couple who postponed when dozens and dozens are playing in 2022

sorry, not dozens, hundreds and hundreds of shows!

Zod · February 2022

uglybabo said:

Zod said:

On the flip side I got an email today that Aerosmith cancelled their Euro tour for the summer.

Seems pretty inconsistent across the board, with some bands striking while the iron is hot (quickly launching a short tour during a lull in covid19), some bands toughing it out and playing regardless, and some bands will being uber cautious.

We don't seem to be getting many big act shows up here in Canada, probably due to our on again / off again capacity limits. I suppose the US (at least a fair chunk of the states) has made it a bit easier with lack of mandates if you do want to tour.

In regards to PJ I feel the same way I did a year or two ago. They probably don't want to announce it at the height of the 5th wave, probably waiting to see what happens next, then launch/announce. I would imagine if nothing goes wrong with the EV tour, that would help build confidence too.

Dave Matthews is playing Toronto, and Halsey just announced a summer tour playing Toronto too. (Both outdoors though, in fact Halsey dates specifically say all shows outdoors)

Lionel Richie just cancelled outdoor shows this summer in Europe but he’s playing an indoor Vegas residency, so I think the lack of mandates in the US is certainly helping plan tours.

I think the problem with Canada is we keep changing things. I guess DMB was willing to take the risk, but basically every time we get a wave, capacity gets restricted, and everytime it wanes, it gets removed.. so you run the risk of having to cancel/postpone if another wave happens?

I think its why a fair number of artists are skipping Canada on covid tours. Probably that and the testing requirements to get into the country.

PJNB · February 2022

Zod said:

uglybabo said:

Zod said:

On the flip side I got an email today that Aerosmith cancelled their Euro tour for the summer.

Seems pretty inconsistent across the board, with some bands striking while the iron is hot (quickly launching a short tour during a lull in covid19), some bands toughing it out and playing regardless, and some bands will being uber cautious.

We don't seem to be getting many big act shows up here in Canada, probably due to our on again / off again capacity limits. I suppose the US (at least a fair chunk of the states) has made it a bit easier with lack of mandates if you do want to tour.

In regards to PJ I feel the same way I did a year or two ago. They probably don't want to announce it at the height of the 5th wave, probably waiting to see what happens next, then launch/announce. I would imagine if nothing goes wrong with the EV tour, that would help build confidence too.

Dave Matthews is playing Toronto, and Halsey just announced a summer tour playing Toronto too. (Both outdoors though, in fact Halsey dates specifically say all shows outdoors)

Lionel Richie just cancelled outdoor shows this summer in Europe but he’s playing an indoor Vegas residency, so I think the lack of mandates in the US is certainly helping plan tours.

I think the problem with Canada is we keep changing things. I guess DMB was willing to take the risk, but basically every time we get a wave, capacity gets restricted, and everytime it wanes, it gets removed.. so you run the risk of having to cancel/postpone if another wave happens?

I think its why a fair number of artists are skipping Canada on covid tours. Probably that and the testing requirements to get into the country.

Spot on I think. Hopefully by spring it will be more clearer the direction we are going in with international travel rules and venue rules going forward. Not just for the summer but hopefully permanently accepting to live with the virus and back to normalcy.

JimmyV · February 2022

And 1pm comes then goes.

2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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