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Absolutely agree. I had looked into getting the speed box to to switch onto 45 easier but I have the Debut Carbon DC and I don't believe it's compatible?mrussel1 said:
The Debut Carbon is such a quality product. It's a little bit of PITA to play 45, but that's the only criticism I ever had of it. It's a great sounding TT.beano.79 said:
I upgraded to blue a few years ago.. it sounded fantastic with no real need to upgrade tbh... But when you know there's something else it's just a matter of time (and money) before you give in 😂 haha extremely happy with the bronze.mrussel1 said:
Ah! Well that's a big difference from the Red! Awesome!beano.79 said:
Pretty good difference off the bat tbh! I'm sure I'll notice it further the more different records I play. I actually have the Bronze Cart on here. Hard to tell the colour due to the childish coloured lighting 😂mrussel1 said:
Nice! I'm sure you'll start to notice a difference. Upgrading that Cart to a Blue will be a huge difference as well, once the Red is end of life.beano.79 said:
upgraded my debut carbon with the aluminium sub platter and acrylic platter 👌
What I noticed right away with the aluminium sub platter is it's very heavy, some good mass. Speed is much more stable with less wow and flutter. Very solid and stable sound. And the acrylic platter seems to have tightened everything up. Looking forward to getting a few records on.0 -
Is that right? I figured it was compatible with any of the lines that didn't have built in speed control.beano.79 said:
Absolutely agree. I had looked into getting the speed box to to switch onto 45 easier but I have the Debut Carbon DC and I don't believe it's compatible?mrussel1 said:
The Debut Carbon is such a quality product. It's a little bit of PITA to play 45, but that's the only criticism I ever had of it. It's a great sounding TT.beano.79 said:
I upgraded to blue a few years ago.. it sounded fantastic with no real need to upgrade tbh... But when you know there's something else it's just a matter of time (and money) before you give in 😂 haha extremely happy with the bronze.mrussel1 said:
Ah! Well that's a big difference from the Red! Awesome!beano.79 said:
Pretty good difference off the bat tbh! I'm sure I'll notice it further the more different records I play. I actually have the Bronze Cart on here. Hard to tell the colour due to the childish coloured lighting 😂mrussel1 said:
Nice! I'm sure you'll start to notice a difference. Upgrading that Cart to a Blue will be a huge difference as well, once the Red is end of life.beano.79 said:
upgraded my debut carbon with the aluminium sub platter and acrylic platter 👌
What I noticed right away with the aluminium sub platter is it's very heavy, some good mass. Speed is much more stable with less wow and flutter. Very solid and stable sound. And the acrylic platter seems to have tightened everything up. Looking forward to getting a few records on.0 -
I read it on a forum somewhere and it's been enough to put me off spending the money. I'd like to find out for sure.mrussel1 said:
Is that right? I figured it was compatible with any of the lines that didn't have built in speed control.beano.79 said:
Absolutely agree. I had looked into getting the speed box to to switch onto 45 easier but I have the Debut Carbon DC and I don't believe it's compatible?mrussel1 said:
The Debut Carbon is such a quality product. It's a little bit of PITA to play 45, but that's the only criticism I ever had of it. It's a great sounding TT.beano.79 said:
I upgraded to blue a few years ago.. it sounded fantastic with no real need to upgrade tbh... But when you know there's something else it's just a matter of time (and money) before you give in 😂 haha extremely happy with the bronze.mrussel1 said:
Ah! Well that's a big difference from the Red! Awesome!beano.79 said:
Pretty good difference off the bat tbh! I'm sure I'll notice it further the more different records I play. I actually have the Bronze Cart on here. Hard to tell the colour due to the childish coloured lighting 😂mrussel1 said:
Nice! I'm sure you'll start to notice a difference. Upgrading that Cart to a Blue will be a huge difference as well, once the Red is end of life.beano.79 said:
upgraded my debut carbon with the aluminium sub platter and acrylic platter 👌
What I noticed right away with the aluminium sub platter is it's very heavy, some good mass. Speed is much more stable with less wow and flutter. Very solid and stable sound. And the acrylic platter seems to have tightened everything up. Looking forward to getting a few records on.0 -

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Ugh. Well the good news is the DC has built in speed stabilizer so at least you have that.0
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That's really strange. I was thinking of getting a Speed Box at some stage for my Carbon. Didn't realize that.
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So once a year, I get the upgrade bug and make a change. This year I went with the phono stage. I had been using the internal MC stage in my Mcintosh C49. It's very good, but a touch limiting in the impedance and zero gain features. So after test driving a few Sim Audio Moons, I settled on this Gold Note PH10 with external power supply. Where as I would say the Moons were 105% of the stock phono, this Gold Note is just a monster upgrade. It kicks harder, faster and the music just explodes, while still being silky smooth. This is an Italian product and I'm still breaking it in, but after doing an A/B test for a week plus, it easily beats my Mcintosh stage.
So there are several cool things including true balanced outputs, two inputs (for multiple TTs) and the separate power supply. But the really cool features are super easy changes to the audio curves, gain, impedance and moving from MC to MM with a knob. That's right, audio curves. It has six curves, including two RIAA (use this 100% for anything mastered in the 80's or later) but also a Columbia curve and most cool for me, the Decca/London curve. I use this on my extensive original Rolling Stones records and sure as shit it makes the music much smoother. Plus the gain features are great, with multiples gains to choose from. If you have a MC cart, you know how important this is. And the changes are made on the fly, while playing. So you get immediate feedback. There are several records where I found I had to go -3db vs a flat 0 (the 0 gain is 60 db).
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That is sweet looking.So one box is the power supply, and one the phono stage?Also, nice AV cables. What brand are they?0
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Yes exactly. The one with the screen is the phono stage. Now that they are in their permanent place, I don't keep them next to each other. While it's quiet, no reason to put a power supply too close to the phono stage.eddiec said:That is sweet looking.So one box is the power supply, and one the phono stage?Also, nice AV cables. What brand are they?
The balanced cables are from Viborg. I have two sets of them, the ones you see and from my preamp to my amp. I've been really happy with them. I'm not a cable guy but these were $50 on Amazon and to me that's reasonable for thick, insulated cables with really nice gold connectors.
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Where did you find the sub-platter? Are you in Europe?beano.79 said:
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Yes exactly. The one with the screen is the phono stage. Now that they are in their permanent place, I don't keep them next to each other. While it's quiet, no reason to put a power supply too close to the phono stage.eddiec said:That is sweet looking.So one box is the power supply, and one the phono stage?Also, nice AV cables. What brand are they?
The balanced cables are from Viborg. I have two sets of them, the ones you see and from my preamp to my amp. I've been really happy with them. I'm not a cable guy but these were $50 on Amazon and to me that's reasonable for thick, insulated cables with really nice gold connectors.
So the phono stage gives you the option of balanced or unbalanced cables?I assume it's the same with the Macintosh?0 -
Yes exactly. The Mc has balanced and unbalanced inputs and outputs. Now the inputs are unbalanced, but I don't know that I"ve ever seen balanced TT inputs. Maybe because the signal is so weak it doesn't make sense to have true balanced. And as I pointed out, there are two inputs, so you can run two TTs. Both can be MM or MC and you change on the screen rather than a dipswitch or anything painful. So it's super easy.eddiec said:mrussel1 said:
Yes exactly. The one with the screen is the phono stage. Now that they are in their permanent place, I don't keep them next to each other. While it's quiet, no reason to put a power supply too close to the phono stage.eddiec said:That is sweet looking.So one box is the power supply, and one the phono stage?Also, nice AV cables. What brand are they?
The balanced cables are from Viborg. I have two sets of them, the ones you see and from my preamp to my amp. I've been really happy with them. I'm not a cable guy but these were $50 on Amazon and to me that's reasonable for thick, insulated cables with really nice gold connectors.
So the phono stage gives you the option of balanced or unbalanced cables?I assume it's the same with the Macintosh?0 -
UK Amazon. I also saw it available on eBay 👍HesCalledDyer said:
Where did you find the sub-platter? Are you in Europe?beano.79 said:
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