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mace1229 · January 2022

Gern Blansten said:

eddiec said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

Willful ignorance isn’t an excuse.

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

Bentleyspop said:

"For you to come on my property and accuse me of something that absolutely has nothing to do with that Confederate flag except for my daughter’s heritage and my heritage is absolutely wrong.”

https://twitter.com/WatchDogBrunhil/status/1484897894482452485?t=54-hN-kz8UQ8EGeoAPizFA&s=19

love to ask, ok then what does that mean to you, southern heritage.

AND that flag is specific to the army of virginia, adopted at the start of the civil war. where the attempted succesion states clearly state in their letters of succession AND the csa constitution it was about slavery.

AND missouri was admitted as the last slave state. THAT is your heritage.

There are so many people that view that flag as just "southern". They don't look at it as racist because that isn't what it means to them.

Are they wrong? I think so. If you could turn it into something positive though why not do that?

Of course they’re wrong. They’ve had 150+ years to change what it stands for and they’ve doubled and tripled down on it through the decades. Ship has sailed.

Again, they don't view it as a race thing, some do but a bunch do not.

Remember when it was on the General Lee? It was just a flag on a car. It had zero to do w race.

I'm just trying to get across that there are a bunch of people that see it as a southern thing and can care less about it's role as being racist.

I touched on that earlier. And I agree it’s not always about race for some people. But To do that in the 80s is one thing. To do it today and not know it’s offensive would just be dumb.

I too never saw it as a hate symbol until the past few years when it got more news about it.

Probably in the same way we laughed off racist comments by grandparents and such.
I never saw it as racist when I watched the Dukes of Hazzard as a kid. That's just how ingrained racism has always been in our society.

Edit: Maybe saying 'laughed off' is the wrong choice of words.

Yeah I never made the connection with the Dukes of Hazzard. I was too interested in Daisy's jugs to think about that flag.

I would think that those offended by the confederate flag were probably not too vocal about it back then. That was 45 years or so ago...still pretty close to the civil rights movement.

How could you not make the connection? It was on arguably the most famous car of the 80s. The car was in more scenes than Daisy I’m sure.
I connected the confederate flag to Dukes before I knew what the south, civil war and slavery was. Pretty sure when I saw it for the first time in a school setting I probably thought “hey, that’s the Dukes of Hazzard car.”

Gern Blansten · January 2022

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

eddiec said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

Willful ignorance isn’t an excuse.

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

Bentleyspop said:

"For you to come on my property and accuse me of something that absolutely has nothing to do with that Confederate flag except for my daughter’s heritage and my heritage is absolutely wrong.”

https://twitter.com/WatchDogBrunhil/status/1484897894482452485?t=54-hN-kz8UQ8EGeoAPizFA&s=19

love to ask, ok then what does that mean to you, southern heritage.

AND that flag is specific to the army of virginia, adopted at the start of the civil war. where the attempted succesion states clearly state in their letters of succession AND the csa constitution it was about slavery.

AND missouri was admitted as the last slave state. THAT is your heritage.

There are so many people that view that flag as just "southern". They don't look at it as racist because that isn't what it means to them.

Are they wrong? I think so. If you could turn it into something positive though why not do that?

Of course they’re wrong. They’ve had 150+ years to change what it stands for and they’ve doubled and tripled down on it through the decades. Ship has sailed.

Again, they don't view it as a race thing, some do but a bunch do not.

Remember when it was on the General Lee? It was just a flag on a car. It had zero to do w race.

I'm just trying to get across that there are a bunch of people that see it as a southern thing and can care less about it's role as being racist.

I touched on that earlier. And I agree it’s not always about race for some people. But To do that in the 80s is one thing. To do it today and not know it’s offensive would just be dumb.

I too never saw it as a hate symbol until the past few years when it got more news about it.

Probably in the same way we laughed off racist comments by grandparents and such.
I never saw it as racist when I watched the Dukes of Hazzard as a kid. That's just how ingrained racism has always been in our society.

Edit: Maybe saying 'laughed off' is the wrong choice of words.

Yeah I never made the connection with the Dukes of Hazzard. I was too interested in Daisy's jugs to think about that flag.

I would think that those offended by the confederate flag were probably not too vocal about it back then. That was 45 years or so ago...still pretty close to the civil rights movement.

How could you not make the connection? It was on arguably the most famous car of the 80s. The car was in more scenes than Daisy I’m sure.
I connected the confederate flag to Dukes before I knew what the south, civil war and slavery was. Pretty sure when I saw it for the first time in a school setting I probably thought “hey, that’s the Dukes of Hazzard car.”

because I was 10? I wasn't fully versed in what the confederate flag represented. Like a lot of children I'm guessing.

mace1229 · January 2022

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

eddiec said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

Willful ignorance isn’t an excuse.

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

Bentleyspop said:

"For you to come on my property and accuse me of something that absolutely has nothing to do with that Confederate flag except for my daughter’s heritage and my heritage is absolutely wrong.”

https://twitter.com/WatchDogBrunhil/status/1484897894482452485?t=54-hN-kz8UQ8EGeoAPizFA&s=19

love to ask, ok then what does that mean to you, southern heritage.

AND that flag is specific to the army of virginia, adopted at the start of the civil war. where the attempted succesion states clearly state in their letters of succession AND the csa constitution it was about slavery.

AND missouri was admitted as the last slave state. THAT is your heritage.

There are so many people that view that flag as just "southern". They don't look at it as racist because that isn't what it means to them.

Are they wrong? I think so. If you could turn it into something positive though why not do that?

Of course they’re wrong. They’ve had 150+ years to change what it stands for and they’ve doubled and tripled down on it through the decades. Ship has sailed.

Again, they don't view it as a race thing, some do but a bunch do not.

Remember when it was on the General Lee? It was just a flag on a car. It had zero to do w race.

I'm just trying to get across that there are a bunch of people that see it as a southern thing and can care less about it's role as being racist.

I touched on that earlier. And I agree it’s not always about race for some people. But To do that in the 80s is one thing. To do it today and not know it’s offensive would just be dumb.

I too never saw it as a hate symbol until the past few years when it got more news about it.

Probably in the same way we laughed off racist comments by grandparents and such.
I never saw it as racist when I watched the Dukes of Hazzard as a kid. That's just how ingrained racism has always been in our society.

Edit: Maybe saying 'laughed off' is the wrong choice of words.

Yeah I never made the connection with the Dukes of Hazzard. I was too interested in Daisy's jugs to think about that flag.

I would think that those offended by the confederate flag were probably not too vocal about it back then. That was 45 years or so ago...still pretty close to the civil rights movement.

How could you not make the connection? It was on arguably the most famous car of the 80s. The car was in more scenes than Daisy I’m sure.
I connected the confederate flag to Dukes before I knew what the south, civil war and slavery was. Pretty sure when I saw it for the first time in a school setting I probably thought “hey, that’s the Dukes of Hazzard car.”

because I was 10? I wasn't fully versed in what the confederate flag represented. Like a lot of children I'm guessing.

I misunderstood. I thought you meant you never made a connection with the General Lee car and the flag. As in your never noticed it.

JeBurkhardt · January 2022

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

brianlux said:

bootlegger10 said:

Haha, I read this thread when it only had the first post. I thought to myself ‘this will go poorly’.

Liberals will try to defend stupid comments by liberals, and conservatives will try to defend stupid comments by conservatives. A nice experiment in human nature here.

Well of course anyone would think it will go poorly. I made the damn thing and figured it would go poorly.. It's AMT, lol.

Regarding your second statement, that seems normal to me. I mean really, how many Trump fans are going so say something good about a statement made by Biden or visa versa? How many McConnell fans (is there such a thing?) are going to say something good about a Pelosi statement? Totally natural in this polarized nation. And as long a Republicans continue to side with Trump, I think it has to stay polarized. How could it not?

I could never imagine being a “fan” of a politician. It’s a strange world to me.

It's so fucking weird. Bumper stickers and yard signs (close to an election) seem fairly normal but flags? Hats and shirts?

I passed merch tents for tRump near my neighborhood selling all kinds of bizarre tRump stuff. Really fucking weird

There is a guy in his corolla that sells Trump flags and F Biden flags.

The F Biden stuff to me is classless. To openly display the F word in public? stupes...

There is a guy in my neighborhood that has a "F**K Biden" flag. I guess he thinks the asterisks are acceptable.

Really classless

Couldn't figure out the spelling, so he went with the asterisks.

tempo_n_groove · January 2022

JeBurkhardt said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

brianlux said:

bootlegger10 said:

Haha, I read this thread when it only had the first post. I thought to myself ‘this will go poorly’.

Liberals will try to defend stupid comments by liberals, and conservatives will try to defend stupid comments by conservatives. A nice experiment in human nature here.

Well of course anyone would think it will go poorly. I made the damn thing and figured it would go poorly.. It's AMT, lol.

Regarding your second statement, that seems normal to me. I mean really, how many Trump fans are going so say something good about a statement made by Biden or visa versa? How many McConnell fans (is there such a thing?) are going to say something good about a Pelosi statement? Totally natural in this polarized nation. And as long a Republicans continue to side with Trump, I think it has to stay polarized. How could it not?

I could never imagine being a “fan” of a politician. It’s a strange world to me.

It's so fucking weird. Bumper stickers and yard signs (close to an election) seem fairly normal but flags? Hats and shirts?

I passed merch tents for tRump near my neighborhood selling all kinds of bizarre tRump stuff. Really fucking weird

There is a guy in his corolla that sells Trump flags and F Biden flags.

The F Biden stuff to me is classless. To openly display the F word in public? stupes...

There is a guy in my neighborhood that has a "F**K Biden" flag. I guess he thinks the asterisks are acceptable.

Really classless

Couldn't figure out the spelling, so he went with the asterisks.

I39d like to buy a vowel please - Jeopardy Contestant 1 Meme Generator

static111 · January 2022

"I do my own research" People

HughFreakingDillon · January 2022

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you are making a whole host of assumptions here, so have a fine day.

😂
I’m making a whole host of assumptions hey. From the guy who “assumed” it was government “red tape” (not surprisingly… it wasn’t).

I didn't assume that. I posted it as a possibility. if it wasn't the case, fine. you seem to think you know, but again, won't post sources. I don't waste time on claims without sources. especially when I'm attacked personally for simply asking for them.

First of all… why do I have to post sources? You don’t trust journalists so what good would that do? If you want to fact check, do your own homework, I have better things to do.

haha, that's kind of how it works. if you post a claim of something that someone said or did, back it up. that's actually part of YOUR homework. jesus.

this response screams "fuck, I posted bullshit and got caught".

Gern Blansten · January 2022

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

eddiec said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

Willful ignorance isn’t an excuse.

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DewieCox said:

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

Bentleyspop said:

"For you to come on my property and accuse me of something that absolutely has nothing to do with that Confederate flag except for my daughter’s heritage and my heritage is absolutely wrong.”

https://twitter.com/WatchDogBrunhil/status/1484897894482452485?t=54-hN-kz8UQ8EGeoAPizFA&s=19

love to ask, ok then what does that mean to you, southern heritage.

AND that flag is specific to the army of virginia, adopted at the start of the civil war. where the attempted succesion states clearly state in their letters of succession AND the csa constitution it was about slavery.

AND missouri was admitted as the last slave state. THAT is your heritage.

There are so many people that view that flag as just "southern". They don't look at it as racist because that isn't what it means to them.

Are they wrong? I think so. If you could turn it into something positive though why not do that?

Of course they’re wrong. They’ve had 150+ years to change what it stands for and they’ve doubled and tripled down on it through the decades. Ship has sailed.

Again, they don't view it as a race thing, some do but a bunch do not.

Remember when it was on the General Lee? It was just a flag on a car. It had zero to do w race.

I'm just trying to get across that there are a bunch of people that see it as a southern thing and can care less about it's role as being racist.

I touched on that earlier. And I agree it’s not always about race for some people. But To do that in the 80s is one thing. To do it today and not know it’s offensive would just be dumb.

I too never saw it as a hate symbol until the past few years when it got more news about it.

Probably in the same way we laughed off racist comments by grandparents and such.
I never saw it as racist when I watched the Dukes of Hazzard as a kid. That's just how ingrained racism has always been in our society.

Edit: Maybe saying 'laughed off' is the wrong choice of words.

Yeah I never made the connection with the Dukes of Hazzard. I was too interested in Daisy's jugs to think about that flag.

I would think that those offended by the confederate flag were probably not too vocal about it back then. That was 45 years or so ago...still pretty close to the civil rights movement.

How could you not make the connection? It was on arguably the most famous car of the 80s. The car was in more scenes than Daisy I’m sure.
I connected the confederate flag to Dukes before I knew what the south, civil war and slavery was. Pretty sure when I saw it for the first time in a school setting I probably thought “hey, that’s the Dukes of Hazzard car.”

because I was 10? I wasn't fully versed in what the confederate flag represented. Like a lot of children I'm guessing.

I misunderstood. I thought you meant you never made a connection with the General Lee car and the flag. As in your never noticed it.

oh yeah...definitely noticed and probably thought it was really cool. Especially next to Daisy's jugs.

1ThoughtKnown · January 2022

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you are making a whole host of assumptions here, so have a fine day.

😂
I’m making a whole host of assumptions hey. From the guy who “assumed” it was government “red tape” (not surprisingly… it wasn’t).

I didn't assume that. I posted it as a possibility. if it wasn't the case, fine. you seem to think you know, but again, won't post sources. I don't waste time on claims without sources. especially when I'm attacked personally for simply asking for them.

First of all… why do I have to post sources? You don’t trust journalists so what good would that do? If you want to fact check, do your own homework, I have better things to do.

haha, that's kind of how it works. if you post a claim of something that someone said or did, back it up. that's actually part of YOUR homework. jesus.

this response screams "fuck, I posted bullshit and got caught".

You never answered the second question in my post. If my sources are journalists and you don’t trust them, why would I bother?

To be clear, I really don’t care if you agree, it’s just entertaining that you feel I owe you proof that I can’t believe what Trudeau said. This thread is titled “I can’t believe…..”. It isn’t titled “I can’t believe….. and post sources for HFD”.

For everyone else interested:
https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/grand-chief-in-b-c-says-trudeau-should-resign-over-residential-school-records-comment/
https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/nctr-signs-agreement-with-ottawa-to-receive-more-residential-schools-records/

This indicates why the documents were withheld “third party obligations” not the asinine and ignorant comment it was possible “red-tape”. The documents were withheld deliberately.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ottawa-national-centre-truth-reconciliation-200213967.html

A fifth estate documentary piece on the entire situation:
https://gem.cbc.ca/media/the-fifth-estate/s47e10

There is more information on the NCTR website. The federal government willingly entered an agreement on truth and reconciliation with our indigenous peoples and continue to fail them, over and over again. It is an embarrassment to this otherwise wonderful nation. As a proud citizen, this angers me.

Well, that took me about five or ten minutes to find these links, something anyone that has figured out Google could do (for example, my five year old nephew is pretty Google-proficient).

Edit - NCTR not NTCR.

1ThoughtKnown · January 2022

“ haha, that's kind of how it works. if you post a claim of something that someone said or did, back it up. ”

HughFreakingDillon - 2022

Page 2 of this thread:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"No seriously, hot sauce. I’ve been eating a lot of hot sauce. Raw peppers and hot sauce,” she said. “Because I think it keeps my immune system strong. I think hot sauce is good for you, in moderation.”

-Hillary Clinton

Oh the hypocrisy.

brianlux · January 2022

Maybe time to shut this thread down, ya think? I do.

1ThoughtKnown · January 2022

brianlux said:

Maybe time to shut this thread down, ya think? I do.

Are you a Trudeau fan as well? 😂😂
Sorry if I have taken the shine off him for you. Liberal-minded Americans think quite highly of him, but he is all show and no substance.

brianlux · January 2022

1ThoughtKnown said:

brianlux said:

Maybe time to shut this thread down, ya think? I do.

Are you a Trudeau fan as well? 😂😂
Sorry if I have taken the shine off him for you. Liberal-minded Americans think quite highly of him, but he is all show and no substance.

I don't know what your talking about. Nothing I've said had anything to do with Trudeau.
Also, I am not liberal-minded. I study what is out there and think for myself. So basically, I don't understand your post.

This thread has lost it's grip. Time to shut it down.

HughFreakingDillon · January 2022

1ThoughtKnown said:

“ haha, that's kind of how it works. if you post a claim of something that someone said or did, back it up. ”

HughFreakingDillon - 2022

Page 2 of this thread:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"No seriously, hot sauce. I’ve been eating a lot of hot sauce. Raw peppers and hot sauce,” she said. “Because I think it keeps my immune system strong. I think hot sauce is good for you, in moderation.”

-Hillary Clinton

Oh the hypocrisy.

you can't be serious. that is a well known thing she said. it was all over the fucking news. but guess what? if you asked me for the source, I'd provide it, I wouldn't have a tantrum over it like you did.

Lerxst1992 · January 2022

1ThoughtKnown said:

brianlux said:

Maybe time to shut this thread down, ya think? I do.

Are you a Trudeau fan as well? 😂😂
Sorry if I have taken the shine off him for you. Liberal-minded Americans think quite highly of him, but he is all show and no substance.

When he leads a violent riot to overthrow his govt, then we’ll talk.

brianlux · January 2022

This sounds like a good topic for the Canadian politics thread.

Besides it was another dumb thread started by that idiot brianlux. They're destined to fail. Don't sweat it.

HughFreakingDillon · January 2022

the thread was a fine idea brian. but sometimes......idiocy takes the wheel and it's beyond your control.

brianlux · January 2022

Be careful out there!

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Meltdown99 · January 2022

Lerxst1992 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

brianlux said:

Maybe time to shut this thread down, ya think? I do.

Are you a Trudeau fan as well? 😂😂
Sorry if I have taken the shine off him for you. Liberal-minded Americans think quite highly of him, but he is all show and no substance.

When he leads a violent riot to overthrow his govt, then we’ll talk.

Of please. This is your response. Lmfao

Meltdown99 · January 2022

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

brianlux said:

Maybe time to shut this thread down, ya think? I do.

Are you a Trudeau fan as well? 😂😂
Sorry if I have taken the shine off him for you. Liberal-minded Americans think quite highly of him, but he is all show and no substance.

When he leads a violent riot to overthrow his govt, then we’ll talk.

Of please. This is your response. Lmfao

Us silly people standing up for 1st nation rights. When you reimburse the indigenous people for violently slaughtering them in one of the world largest genocide’s then we will talk….

This thread must stay alive. Forever.

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