Want do you think is the best and worst decision the band has made over their career?

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  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,935
    Best: opening a cassette demo they got in the mail

    Worst: letting politics get in the way of their music.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,816
    hrd2imgn said:
    Best: opening a cassette demo they got in the mail

    Worst: letting politics get in the way of their music.
    They wouldn't be Pearl Jam then
    I miss igotid88
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    Best: being friends with Jack Irons in 1990. 
    Worst: Dirty Frank
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    Best: Ten, Vs., Vitalogy
    Worst: Backspacer, Lightning Bolt, Gigaton
    Ouch! 
    She’s been reported. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    CopperTom said:
    Best: Official Bootlegs

    Worst: Years of poor communication with its fanbase.
    You don’t email back and forth with Boom? 
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,816
    edited December 2021
    Best: Birth of No. Most likely kept the band together
    Worst: Only for my own selfish reasons. The birth of no. I would have liked to have seen them on TV more during vs, Vitalogy, and No Code. What if they had performed Daughter or go on Letterman in 93/94? Or made music videos for those albums. They went from being the biggest band of the 90s to "they still make music?". Obviously they did well for themselves. Are first ballot Hall of Famers. And so forth. But sucks when casual fans are asked about 90s bands they're not mentioned as much.
    I miss igotid88
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,103
    igotid88 said:
    Best: Becoming a band
    Worst: The fans
    This guy gets it. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh 2


  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,027
    edited December 2021
    Hard to say.  The good is so overwhelming compared to the bad.  Not enough can be said about the good over the last 30 years.

    The only bad that the band controls, in my opinion, is a general lack of communication.

    The WORST thing, that the band could have never predicted and it’s hard to blame them for, but still sucks - We have a 5 year period from 2017-2021 in their touring prime to late prime that has now become a complete wash minus a few ballpark shows and a Euro Tour.  The 2013, 2014 and 2016 Tours were some of the best we have ever had, and it all came to a screeching halt.   
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    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • mbowers
    mbowers Posts: 109
    Best: easily Jack Irons. They became a much much better band after 1995 that it’s not even close. 
    Worst: honestly, unplugged. They sound unprepared. Porch is great, and some other songs are good, but overall it just sounds like they are playing the same songs with acoustic instruments. It could have been more. Bridge shows have shown that
  • Best - Mixing up setlists and official bootleg series
    Worst - BOB remix of Ten 
  • hrd2imgn said:
    Best: opening a cassette demo they got in the mail

    Worst: letting politics get in the way of their music.
    😂😂😂.  Did politics prevent any of their music from getting out? 
  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,935
    The fans are not a decision they made
  • Best: The fact that they're still going strong after more than 30 years.
    Worst: Their overall choices of opening acts during their tours. 
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,411
    edited December 2021
    Best: allowing themselves space to evolve and try new sounds/styles.
    Worst: Ed’s decision to smoke (hurting the instrument). And some of the vocal shredding screams in the mid/late 90s. Sorry. But he has the right to do whatever he wants. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Honorable mention: speeding up the old songs and losing the “jam”. More like Pearl Punk these days.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,971
    Best: changing the live shows up as much as they do.

    Worst: bee girl, closely followed by Yellow Moon and Parachutes
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • KV4053
    KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,514
    Best: allowing themselves space to evolve and try new sounds/styles.
    Worst: Ed’s decision to smoke (hurting the instrument). And some of the vocal shredding screams in the mid/late 90s. Sorry. But he has the right to do whatever he wants. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Honorable mention: speeding up the old songs and losing the “jam”. More like Pearl Punk these days.
    Your honorable mention has reverted back to album speed
    I know I was born and I know that I'll die. The in between is mine.
  • Of The Aggie
    Of The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,554
    Best: Ten, Vs., Vitalogy
    Worst: Backspacer, Lightning Bolt, Gigaton
    Ouch! 
    She’s been reported. 
    I make no apologies for not liking the last 3 albums 😁
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    igotid88 said:
    Best: Becoming a band
    Worst: The fans
    enjoy:

    WE ARE THE NEXT US
    (The time occupied by the action is an afternoon and one night.)

    I don’t know who comes up with this shit
    but, I wish they’d stop saying;
    ‘it’s not the band I hate, it’s their fans’

    You can’t hate “fans”.
    You must narrow your hate
    You can’t hate huge, hate sprawling, hate the wild,
    unfocussed hate hates itself,
    pick your victims. specialize
    find the good n’ unaffiliated, the heir-not apparent, the everyday outcast,
    the weirdo with the heart of gold, infiltrate the hoser elite.
    Find the ribs-showingest rock n roll stray dog
    That ever pushed melodious air
    howling against vivisection in the uncompartmentalizeable
    night.
    and, then hate

    or go to a show - look down your row.
    the lights are on - find people you know.
    There’s AnthemSinger standing with his arm
    around DarklyNurturedDream.
    and Ol’Quintessential listening to HigherThanACBCGuest say;
    “I haven’t read them, but I understand them.”
    And there’s BrainOfAToaster (he knows when things are done)
    next to that girl, CradlingHerKeyCard, whispering,
    “this might be my last show, come.”
    Check it out! There’s HoldStill and Gently - together again for the very first time.
    and MyDoctrineHasFailedMeButMyMusicHasn’t
    next to ColderValues, next to FeaturelessButFree.
    Hey, even TheEmperorHasNoHook is here and IDon’tWannaTalkAboutItHowYouBrokeMyHeart, she’s here too.

    Go to a show. Look down your row
    While the lights are on
    find people you know:
    MindOfFame’s yelling
    to GoesWithoutSaying and
    OverTheRadar points out
    WinWinWinWin to
    GulpIndeed

    Go to a show.
    Music Lovers under a full moon in trust
    It’s not the band you like it’s their sea of hate you don’t trust
    you’re in the right place

    Author a killing.
    employ carelessness, greed
    wait til the hate’s flowing
    then hate like the wind
    take hate’s hate and do it better
    make hate retire - go soft
    catch bats til you feel better
    try and catch them aloft

    don’t hate fans it makes ya sound like a fuckin fascist, or worse -
    undiscerning.
    No one likes indiscriminate.
    you won’t get laid with those politics

    that said. Lets go backstage! See what’s hateable there.
    C’mon!

    C’mon

    C’mon
    The band is preparing - lost in thought,
    relearning, “How To Get Lost” and
    “Where To Appear, Where to Never Appear”
    hoping to return to the birthplace of the word
    where winning sentences hang from trees
    where no one is too cool to move
    or too slow to get out of their own way.

    The crew is moving on water
    Tributarily spring-run-off fed rapids they’re paddling
    deliberately, quietly, fur-traders not missionaries
    they run God’s Instrument through the Devil’s Amp for chrissakes
    they bring the Peace If Peace
    is any good at all
    it’s because of them,
    and if it isn’t, well, it was working before.

    a shadowy figure stands alone with a notebook
    writes then underlines;
    ‘Glowing Disses’
    - I fucked Paul McCartney
    - Put teen ennui back in ‘tsunami fatigue’
    - Penned Relentlessly Apt…
    - Forgot DarklyNurturedDream

    look,
    deep in conversation,
    It’s Picasso (Canadian) and Matisse (Canadian)
    - ‘Giving is where the pleasure is in this business.’
    - ‘That’s when can you see what this business can do’
    - ‘When everyone in this business is together- whoa - I’d like to be you’
    they organize relief in a heartbeat
    they can stand in a canoe
    lets move UN to the Halifax move Superior to the moon.

    Hey there’s Andrea, the dancer
    and a poet named Ken.
    Their nametags say, ‘Muse’
    they are Somebody’s Someone Somewhere then
    waving to the Canadian Arc
    they’re gonna do something
    together one day
    A thing about a country that
    found itself in its
    art found its way

    It’s getting time - it’s getting close (go to your seats)
    a part in the night where’s the love of my life?
    kiss me, ‘thank you for this’
    kiss me ‘I won’t be myself without you’
    kiss me, It’s time, to reach you the way you reach me
    it’s time.

    Out in the emptying lobby, a lonely Waterkeeper is late setting up his booth.
    A kid, who is interested, says, ‘here, let me help you.’

    Here’s an explosion
    an explosion inside
    the just before music sound (the sound of just before music)
    kindnesses, sweetnesses shoot up
    and shower back down
    The listeners have spoken, and it’s,

    WeAreTheNextUs.

    We all have our moments
    get the success we deserve
    We must look at each other
    (it’s failure that takes nerve)
    make eye contact, shake hands
    silently vow;
    Like the greats before us
    let us cry into the curtains
    and then go on stage

    Now

    The band’s plugging in (they intend to stay)
    The singer strides to the microphone
    Yells (rock voice) ‘Thank you!’ as if to say
    ‘For giving us our start!’
    and ‘This one’s for Neil!’
    and ‘Have a great Augusta, Craig!’
    And then we start

    It’s revealed

    now you can hate


        -The Tragically Hip


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyL--kmTXjk&t=34s

    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    Best: the live show
    Worst: thinking Canada was just Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto between 1993 and 2005
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Best: Bootlegs
    Worst: Only scheduling 1 show at MSG for 2020/2022
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x2