Want do you think is the best and worst decision the band has made over their career?

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  • hrd2imgn said:
    Best: opening a cassette demo they got in the mail

    Worst: letting politics get in the way of their music.
    😂😂😂.  Did politics prevent any of their music from getting out? 
  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Posts: 4,895
    The fans are not a decision they made
  • Best: The fact that they're still going strong after more than 30 years.
    Worst: Their overall choices of opening acts during their tours. 
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,393
    edited December 2021
    Best: allowing themselves space to evolve and try new sounds/styles.
    Worst: Ed’s decision to smoke (hurting the instrument). And some of the vocal shredding screams in the mid/late 90s. Sorry. But he has the right to do whatever he wants. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Honorable mention: speeding up the old songs and losing the “jam”. More like Pearl Punk these days.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • Best: changing the live shows up as much as they do.

    Worst: bee girl, closely followed by Yellow Moon and Parachutes
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • KV4053KV4053 Posts: 1,503
    Best: allowing themselves space to evolve and try new sounds/styles.
    Worst: Ed’s decision to smoke (hurting the instrument). And some of the vocal shredding screams in the mid/late 90s. Sorry. But he has the right to do whatever he wants. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Honorable mention: speeding up the old songs and losing the “jam”. More like Pearl Punk these days.
    Your honorable mention has reverted back to album speed
    I know I was born and I know that I'll die. The in between is mine.
  • Of The AggieOf The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,528
    Best: Ten, Vs., Vitalogy
    Worst: Backspacer, Lightning Bolt, Gigaton
    Ouch! 
    She’s been reported. 
    I make no apologies for not liking the last 3 albums 😁
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,526
    igotid88 said:
    Best: Becoming a band
    Worst: The fans
    enjoy:

    WE ARE THE NEXT US
    (The time occupied by the action is an afternoon and one night.)

    I don’t know who comes up with this shit
    but, I wish they’d stop saying;
    ‘it’s not the band I hate, it’s their fans’

    You can’t hate “fans”.
    You must narrow your hate
    You can’t hate huge, hate sprawling, hate the wild,
    unfocussed hate hates itself,
    pick your victims. specialize
    find the good n’ unaffiliated, the heir-not apparent, the everyday outcast,
    the weirdo with the heart of gold, infiltrate the hoser elite.
    Find the ribs-showingest rock n roll stray dog
    That ever pushed melodious air
    howling against vivisection in the uncompartmentalizeable
    night.
    and, then hate

    or go to a show - look down your row.
    the lights are on - find people you know.
    There’s AnthemSinger standing with his arm
    around DarklyNurturedDream.
    and Ol’Quintessential listening to HigherThanACBCGuest say;
    “I haven’t read them, but I understand them.”
    And there’s BrainOfAToaster (he knows when things are done)
    next to that girl, CradlingHerKeyCard, whispering,
    “this might be my last show, come.”
    Check it out! There’s HoldStill and Gently - together again for the very first time.
    and MyDoctrineHasFailedMeButMyMusicHasn’t
    next to ColderValues, next to FeaturelessButFree.
    Hey, even TheEmperorHasNoHook is here and IDon’tWannaTalkAboutItHowYouBrokeMyHeart, she’s here too.

    Go to a show. Look down your row
    While the lights are on
    find people you know:
    MindOfFame’s yelling
    to GoesWithoutSaying and
    OverTheRadar points out
    WinWinWinWin to
    GulpIndeed

    Go to a show.
    Music Lovers under a full moon in trust
    It’s not the band you like it’s their sea of hate you don’t trust
    you’re in the right place

    Author a killing.
    employ carelessness, greed
    wait til the hate’s flowing
    then hate like the wind
    take hate’s hate and do it better
    make hate retire - go soft
    catch bats til you feel better
    try and catch them aloft

    don’t hate fans it makes ya sound like a fuckin fascist, or worse -
    undiscerning.
    No one likes indiscriminate.
    you won’t get laid with those politics

    that said. Lets go backstage! See what’s hateable there.
    C’mon!

    C’mon

    C’mon
    The band is preparing - lost in thought,
    relearning, “How To Get Lost” and
    “Where To Appear, Where to Never Appear”
    hoping to return to the birthplace of the word
    where winning sentences hang from trees
    where no one is too cool to move
    or too slow to get out of their own way.

    The crew is moving on water
    Tributarily spring-run-off fed rapids they’re paddling
    deliberately, quietly, fur-traders not missionaries
    they run God’s Instrument through the Devil’s Amp for chrissakes
    they bring the Peace If Peace
    is any good at all
    it’s because of them,
    and if it isn’t, well, it was working before.

    a shadowy figure stands alone with a notebook
    writes then underlines;
    ‘Glowing Disses’
    - I fucked Paul McCartney
    - Put teen ennui back in ‘tsunami fatigue’
    - Penned Relentlessly Apt…
    - Forgot DarklyNurturedDream

    look,
    deep in conversation,
    It’s Picasso (Canadian) and Matisse (Canadian)
    - ‘Giving is where the pleasure is in this business.’
    - ‘That’s when can you see what this business can do’
    - ‘When everyone in this business is together- whoa - I’d like to be you’
    they organize relief in a heartbeat
    they can stand in a canoe
    lets move UN to the Halifax move Superior to the moon.

    Hey there’s Andrea, the dancer
    and a poet named Ken.
    Their nametags say, ‘Muse’
    they are Somebody’s Someone Somewhere then
    waving to the Canadian Arc
    they’re gonna do something
    together one day
    A thing about a country that
    found itself in its
    art found its way

    It’s getting time - it’s getting close (go to your seats)
    a part in the night where’s the love of my life?
    kiss me, ‘thank you for this’
    kiss me ‘I won’t be myself without you’
    kiss me, It’s time, to reach you the way you reach me
    it’s time.

    Out in the emptying lobby, a lonely Waterkeeper is late setting up his booth.
    A kid, who is interested, says, ‘here, let me help you.’

    Here’s an explosion
    an explosion inside
    the just before music sound (the sound of just before music)
    kindnesses, sweetnesses shoot up
    and shower back down
    The listeners have spoken, and it’s,

    WeAreTheNextUs.

    We all have our moments
    get the success we deserve
    We must look at each other
    (it’s failure that takes nerve)
    make eye contact, shake hands
    silently vow;
    Like the greats before us
    let us cry into the curtains
    and then go on stage

    Now

    The band’s plugging in (they intend to stay)
    The singer strides to the microphone
    Yells (rock voice) ‘Thank you!’ as if to say
    ‘For giving us our start!’
    and ‘This one’s for Neil!’
    and ‘Have a great Augusta, Craig!’
    And then we start

    It’s revealed

    now you can hate


        -The Tragically Hip


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyL--kmTXjk&t=34s

    new album "Cigarettes" out Fall 2024!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,526
    Best: the live show
    Worst: thinking Canada was just Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto between 1993 and 2005
    new album "Cigarettes" out Fall 2024!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • Best: Bootlegs
    Worst: Only scheduling 1 show at MSG for 2020/2022
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore
  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,159
    Best: staying together and being a band for so long. Some tough decisions around 93-98 helped keep the band together. And I’m sure some tough decisions since then have helped along the way. 

    worst: some of the above choices. In isolation some of these decisions are perplexing! Put them all together over a period of time and they all make sense. 
    Melbourne #1 '98
    Melbourne #2 '03
    Melbourne #3 '03
    Melbourne #1 '06
    Melbourne #3 '06
    Melbourne '09
    Melbourne '14
  • KV4053 said:
    Best: allowing themselves space to evolve and try new sounds/styles.
    Worst: Ed’s decision to smoke (hurting the instrument). And some of the vocal shredding screams in the mid/late 90s. Sorry. But he has the right to do whatever he wants. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Honorable mention: speeding up the old songs and losing the “jam”. More like Pearl Punk these days.
    Your honorable mention has reverted back to album speed
    We’ll have to see if that stick. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,393
    KV4053 said:
    Best: allowing themselves space to evolve and try new sounds/styles.
    Worst: Ed’s decision to smoke (hurting the instrument). And some of the vocal shredding screams in the mid/late 90s. Sorry. But he has the right to do whatever he wants. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Honorable mention: speeding up the old songs and losing the “jam”. More like Pearl Punk these days.
    Your honorable mention has reverted back to album speed
    We’ll have to see if that stick. 
    When have they done album speed lately? 
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • KV4053 said:
    Best: allowing themselves space to evolve and try new sounds/styles.
    Worst: Ed’s decision to smoke (hurting the instrument). And some of the vocal shredding screams in the mid/late 90s. Sorry. But he has the right to do whatever he wants. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Honorable mention: speeding up the old songs and losing the “jam”. More like Pearl Punk these days.
    Your honorable mention has reverted back to album speed
    We’ll have to see if that stick. 
    When have they done album speed lately? 
    Given to Fly and Evenflow was slowed down at that festival they played in New Jersey. Seems by what KV4053 writes that, that was kept for Ohana to.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Best: the live show
    Worst: thinking Canada was just Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto between 1993 and 2005
    Didn’t they do a full Canadian tour in 2005? 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,526
    yes, that's why i said "between". 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Fall 2024!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • drfoxdrfox Posts: 1,278
    Best - the live show experience with different set lists

    Worst - for me personally, the lack of U.K. shows. We haven’t had a proper tour since 2000 when all other large US bands always play 5-10 U.K. dates every 2-3 years
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,633

    Best: Pullback/Ticketmaster battle - Culled the fanbase, doubled down on their indie sensibilities, both which fueled passionate fandom which sustained them for another 2 decades. 

    Worst: complacent with their sound/output between 2005 and 2020 
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,393
    edited January 2022
    KV4053 said:
    Best: allowing themselves space to evolve and try new sounds/styles.
    Worst: Ed’s decision to smoke (hurting the instrument). And some of the vocal shredding screams in the mid/late 90s. Sorry. But he has the right to do whatever he wants. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Honorable mention: speeding up the old songs and losing the “jam”. More like Pearl Punk these days.
    Your honorable mention has reverted back to album speed
    We’ll have to see if that stick. 
    When have they done album speed lately? 
    Given to Fly and Evenflow was slowed down at that festival they played in New Jersey. Seems by what KV4053 writes that, that was kept for Ohana to.
    SHN might have been a step slower but not even close to album for either of those songs. GTF a step faster is fine. Even Flow is too fast. SOLAT is a ghost of its former self.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • bootlegbootleg Posts: 675
    Best: Staying together this whole time.  Most bands don’t last.  We’re incredibly lucky they’re still going strong.

    Worst: Not coming up with an album title for Self Titled/Pearl Jam/ Avacodo.  This one still bothers me for some reason.
  • OceansJenny said:
    . SOLAT is a ghost of its former self.
    Well, I mean they have taken a step back from this speed, have they not? :)


    https://youtu.be/4mfF-bkDAtY

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Best: Varied setlists and official boots. 

    Worst: Fan club communication. I also think charging people to watch a couple of old shows during the pandemic was really poor form. I can understand it a little bit if the crew got paid but if you want to do that, do what metallica did - a free live show video every week and then do a one off live show you charge for. they were one of the heroes of the pandemic in how they treated their fans. Not playing Ireland in 12 years.
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,393
    bootleg said:
    Best: Staying together this whole time.  Most bands don’t last.  We’re incredibly lucky they’re still going strong.

    Worst: Not coming up with an album title for Self Titled/Pearl Jam/ Avacodo.  This one still bothers me for some reason.
    I think Self Titled was purposeful. I interpreted it as a reinvention, “this is us” sort of statement. The second coming of Pearl Jam - I believe is what Rolling Stone used.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Posts: 3,393
    OceansJenny said:
    . SOLAT is a ghost of its former self.
    Well, I mean they have taken a step back from this speed, have they not? :)


    https://youtu.be/4mfF-bkDAtY

    Oh man what is that!! Yes they at least took a step back from that. 
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,661
    Best: changing the live shows up as much as they do.

    Worst: bee girl, closely followed by Yellow Moon and Parachutes
    Bee Girl I can forgive because it was never on an album, the other 2...yikes. And throw Buckle Up in there to complete the trifecta.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,046
    JimmyV said:
    Best: not breaking up after Roskilde, hiring Matt Cameron, releasing bootlegs in 2000
    Worst: Arms Aloft in the 4 spot at Fenway 2 in 2018  :)

    JK, hard for me to come up with some of the worst things they've done. Probably leaving off specific songs from albums, as others have said. And there are probably other unreleased gems that will probably never see the light of day. But overall, they've gone 30 years without too many mishaps. I'd say they are in good shape. 
    Yep, that was pretty bad. 
    Oh my God was it ever... there was so much energy behind those 1st 3 songs, and Arms Aloft sucked 100% of it away. 
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,229
    Best: Varied setlists and official boots. 

    Indeed! 
  • LoujoeLoujoe Posts: 8,985
    JimmyV said:
    Best: not breaking up after Roskilde, hiring Matt Cameron, releasing bootlegs in 2000
    Worst: Arms Aloft in the 4 spot at Fenway 2 in 2018  :)

    JK, hard for me to come up with some of the worst things they've done. Probably leaving off specific songs from albums, as others have said. And there are probably other unreleased gems that will probably never see the light of day. But overall, they've gone 30 years without too many mishaps. I'd say they are in good shape. 
    Yep, that was pretty bad. 
    Oh my God was it ever... there was so much energy behind those 1st 3 songs, and Arms Aloft sucked 100% of it away. 
    yep
  • on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,934
    OceansJenny said:
    . SOLAT is a ghost of its former self.
    Well, I mean they have taken a step back from this speed, have they not? :)


    https://youtu.be/4mfF-bkDAtY

    It’s hard to believe we’re about as far from that Milan show today as the Milan show was from the start of Pearl Jam. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


  • Best - Mixing up setlists and official bootleg series
    Worst - BOB remix of Ten 
    I couldn't disagreed more. I love it and think it's way superior to the original mix. Overall that is....because I do prefer the original mix of Jeremy. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
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