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bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.Show me where these kids are in the hospital from covid and not with covid please. Almost 2 years into this pandemic and we still can't differentiate between the two for some odd reason. If someone is in the hospital because of covid tally that one up as a hospitalization. If they are in the hospital for something else and also have covid with mild symptoms then tally that one up as not a hospitalization. It is not hard.
clearly (to me), she just didn't want to say that there are indeed people in hospital and ICU who are fully vaccinated, as they don't want to discourage people from getting the vaccine. give me the facts. MAKE me trust you. don't bullshit me for your agenda just because you think the ends justify the means.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
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gimmesometruth27 said:
i have had it with abbott and texas.
rugged individualists until things get bad then he wants help. miss me with that."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
The only thing that works 100% is social distancing…that’s why wave 1 came under control easier. The mask thing is a fucking joke. I’m sure someone with their dollar store China cloth mask or homemade cloth mask offer abundance protection…maybe if everyone was wearing n 95 (must also pass a fit test)…i’m skeptical about the mask bullshit. Yes, the science says they protect us…of course they do if people are using mask that are designed for those purposes…most are wearing their germ filled disgusting cloth mask…Give Peas A Chance…0
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bootlegger10 said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.Show me where these kids are in the hospital from covid and not with covid please. Almost 2 years into this pandemic and we still can't differentiate between the two for some odd reason. If someone is in the hospital because of covid tally that one up as a hospitalization. If they are in the hospital for something else and also have covid with mild symptoms then tally that one up as not a hospitalization. It is not hard.
clearly (to me), she just didn't want to say that there are indeed people in hospital and ICU who are fully vaccinated, as they don't want to discourage people from getting the vaccine. give me the facts. MAKE me trust you. don't bullshit me for your agenda just because you think the ends justify the means.
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bootlegger10 said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.0 -
I was always interested in finding out more info about infections. Especially lately. Example
67,000 new case. Ok. How many were vaccinated, boosted, not vaccinated, second infections etc…. It was never information to find, unfortunately.0 -
bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.Show me where these kids are in the hospital from covid and not with covid please. Almost 2 years into this pandemic and we still can't differentiate between the two for some odd reason. If someone is in the hospital because of covid tally that one up as a hospitalization. If they are in the hospital for something else and also have covid with mild symptoms then tally that one up as not a hospitalization. It is not hard.
clearly (to me), she just didn't want to say that there are indeed people in hospital and ICU who are fully vaccinated, as they don't want to discourage people from getting the vaccine. give me the facts. MAKE me trust you. don't bullshit me for your agenda just because you think the ends justify the means.
1) people will legitimately adhere to, and
2) be backed up by all data
3) without creating panic or causing complacency (depending on positive/negative ratio of message)
is a very difficult tight rope to walk on. Do I agree with what he and others have done? not all the time, no. However, we saw the Toilet Paper Fiasco of March 2020. When people are told too much negative truth, they panic. When they are told too much positive truth, they get complacent.
So what, in your view, should he/they have done? (not challenging, honest question)Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Indifference71 said:bootlegger10 said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
bootlegger10 said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
i have had it with abbott and texas.
rugged individualists until things get bad then he wants help. miss me with that.
umm wasnt that already in place if they so chose to take the feds up on it? like back in march?
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nicknyr15 said:I was always interested in finding out more info about infections. Especially lately. Example
67,000 new case. Ok. How many were vaccinated, boosted, not vaccinated, second infections etc…. It was never information to find, unfortunately.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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HughFreakingDillon said:bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.Show me where these kids are in the hospital from covid and not with covid please. Almost 2 years into this pandemic and we still can't differentiate between the two for some odd reason. If someone is in the hospital because of covid tally that one up as a hospitalization. If they are in the hospital for something else and also have covid with mild symptoms then tally that one up as not a hospitalization. It is not hard.
clearly (to me), she just didn't want to say that there are indeed people in hospital and ICU who are fully vaccinated, as they don't want to discourage people from getting the vaccine. give me the facts. MAKE me trust you. don't bullshit me for your agenda just because you think the ends justify the means.
1) people will legitimately adhere to, and
2) be backed up by all data
3) without creating panic or causing complacency (depending on positive/negative ratio of message)
is a very difficult tight rope to walk on. Do I agree with what he and others have done? not all the time, no. However, we saw the Toilet Paper Fiasco of March 2020. When people are told too much negative truth, they panic. When they are told too much positive truth, they get complacent.
So what, in your view, should he/they have done? (not challenging, honest question)It is tough though. But we saw the lack of preparedness and that is what forced the lie or noble lie. We should be more prepared.The consequences of an untrustworthy government are probably worse in the long run compared to a run on masks or toilet paper.The government works for us. I think we and the government forget that a lot. It is not their place to withhold information from us that is important to our health because they weren’t prepared to deal with it.0 -
mrussel1 said:bootlegger10 said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
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bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJNB said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.Show me where these kids are in the hospital from covid and not with covid please. Almost 2 years into this pandemic and we still can't differentiate between the two for some odd reason. If someone is in the hospital because of covid tally that one up as a hospitalization. If they are in the hospital for something else and also have covid with mild symptoms then tally that one up as not a hospitalization. It is not hard.
clearly (to me), she just didn't want to say that there are indeed people in hospital and ICU who are fully vaccinated, as they don't want to discourage people from getting the vaccine. give me the facts. MAKE me trust you. don't bullshit me for your agenda just because you think the ends justify the means.
1) people will legitimately adhere to, and
2) be backed up by all data
3) without creating panic or causing complacency (depending on positive/negative ratio of message)
is a very difficult tight rope to walk on. Do I agree with what he and others have done? not all the time, no. However, we saw the Toilet Paper Fiasco of March 2020. When people are told too much negative truth, they panic. When they are told too much positive truth, they get complacent.
So what, in your view, should he/they have done? (not challenging, honest question)It is tough though. But we saw the lack of preparedness and that is what forced the lie or noble lie. We should be more prepared.The consequences of an untrustworthy government are probably worse in the long run compared to a run on masks or toilet paper.The government works for us. I think we and the government forget that a lot. It is not their place to withhold information from us that is important to our health because they weren’t prepared to deal with it.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
mrussel1 said:bootlegger10 said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.
Everytime a valid point is made they move the goalposts.
It's almost impossible to have a disagreement in good faith with most people hear because I guess they just can't handle bad news.
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dignin said:mrussel1 said:bootlegger10 said:dignin said:tish said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-technical-briefings
Today's primary source UK data on vaccine efficacy with omicron and child vaccine data.
I also saw this today.
COVID-19: U.S. children hospitalized in record numbers as vaccinations lag
"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66 per cent increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday"
https://globalnews-ca.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16409746800752&csi=0&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://globalnews.ca/news/8481415/covid-19-us-children-hospitalizations/
The results of parents making bad decisions.
Everytime a valid point is made they move the goalposts.
It's almost impossible to have a disagreement in good faith with most people hear because I guess they just can't handle bad news.
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