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Four out of five of our kids are vaccinated. We are on the fence about our 8 year old.bbiggs said:
Good approach. I'm sure you'll get a lot of bad decision-making parents that don't want to vaccinate their 5 year old to jump on board when you tell them to fuck off.dignin said:
If someone isn't vaccinating their eligible child I throw them in the "fuck them" pile. It's not the kids fault their parents make bad decisions.bbiggs said:
The OP lives in the same area that I do. Ages 5 and up are eligible to be vaccinated. On January 3, anyone aged 5 and older that is not fully vaccinated cannot go to restaurants, theaters, etc. as he mentioned. I have no idea if he intends to vaccinate his child and frankly it is none of my business. I do think mandating children as young as 5 years old to be vaccinated to enter these establishments is over-reaching, and I certainly would not subscribe to the "fuck them" mentality.dignin said:
Give me a break, you know that's not what I meant.Indifference71 said:
Alright then. Starting next week I won't be able to bring my 5 year old to restaurants or movie theaters because he isn't fully vaxxed yet. Fuck him though, right?dignin said:
The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.Indifference71 said:
Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.bootlegger10 said:Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)
I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.
That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.
Fuck the unvaccinated.
I don't know where you live but where I live if you are not eligible to get vaccinated you can still.go everywhere the vaccinated can.
Again, fuck the "willingly" unvaccinated.
I applaud your local government for taking a stand based on common sense and science.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
dignin said:
If someone isn't vaccinating their eligible child I throw them in the "fuck them" pile. It's not the kids fault their parents make bad decisions.bbiggs said:
The OP lives in the same area that I do. Ages 5 and up are eligible to be vaccinated. On January 3, anyone aged 5 and older that is not fully vaccinated cannot go to restaurants, theaters, etc. as he mentioned. I have no idea if he intends to vaccinate his child and frankly it is none of my business. I do think mandating children as young as 5 years old to be vaccinated to enter these establishments is over-reaching, and I certainly would not subscribe to the "fuck them" mentality.dignin said:
Give me a break, you know that's not what I meant.Indifference71 said:
Alright then. Starting next week I won't be able to bring my 5 year old to restaurants or movie theaters because he isn't fully vaxxed yet. Fuck him though, right?dignin said:
The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.Indifference71 said:
Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.bootlegger10 said:Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)
I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.
That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.
Fuck the unvaccinated.
I don't know where you live but where I live if you are not eligible to get vaccinated you can still.go everywhere the vaccinated can.
Again, fuck the "willingly" unvaccinated.
I applaud your local government for taking a stand based on common sense and science.
you are factoring in possible health considerations for these otherwiise eligible children before your seemingly blanket "fuck them" aren't you?
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Took 5 kids to play lazer tag in a core bubble (not an illegal birthday) party. Hell, they go to school together. I'm doing what's permitted and bending the odd rule.elvistheking44 said:Curious what people’s days are like on here….
I had the day off today, took my kid to get a passport renewal, grabbed a coffee and a donut afterwards. We exchanged some Christmas presents she wasn’t too happy about then my wife took her shopping at a few other stores. People everywhere, masks everywhere, all indoors. Been this way for us for close to a year and a half now. We’re careful, all vaxxed and our life has gone on. Life is a risk. You can get car jacked, shot, mugged, killed in a car crash, get cancer, get shot at work, fall down the stairs, get killed in a tornado….the list goes on and on and on and on. So did you hide in your house all day? Seriously, what are your days like?
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I don't blame you for your hesitancy. Be careful saying that out loud in this place though.mcgruff10 said:
Four out of five of our kids are vaccinated. We are on the fence about our 8 year old.bbiggs said:
Good approach. I'm sure you'll get a lot of bad decision-making parents that don't want to vaccinate their 5 year old to jump on board when you tell them to fuck off.dignin said:
If someone isn't vaccinating their eligible child I throw them in the "fuck them" pile. It's not the kids fault their parents make bad decisions.bbiggs said:
The OP lives in the same area that I do. Ages 5 and up are eligible to be vaccinated. On January 3, anyone aged 5 and older that is not fully vaccinated cannot go to restaurants, theaters, etc. as he mentioned. I have no idea if he intends to vaccinate his child and frankly it is none of my business. I do think mandating children as young as 5 years old to be vaccinated to enter these establishments is over-reaching, and I certainly would not subscribe to the "fuck them" mentality.dignin said:
Give me a break, you know that's not what I meant.Indifference71 said:
Alright then. Starting next week I won't be able to bring my 5 year old to restaurants or movie theaters because he isn't fully vaxxed yet. Fuck him though, right?dignin said:
The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.Indifference71 said:
Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.bootlegger10 said:Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)
I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.
That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.
Fuck the unvaccinated.
I don't know where you live but where I live if you are not eligible to get vaccinated you can still.go everywhere the vaccinated can.
Again, fuck the "willingly" unvaccinated.
I applaud your local government for taking a stand based on common sense and science.
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What is up with parents? Why wouldn’t they vaccinate a five year old who has a .0001% chance of having issues from Covid? Monsters!0
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Bad decision-makers. Fuck them.bootlegger10 said:What is up with parents? Why wouldn’t they vaccinate a five year old who has a .0001% chance of having issues from Covid? Monsters!
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Agreed. Terrible parents. They obviously don’t love America.bbiggs said:
Bad decision-makers. Fuck them.bootlegger10 said:What is up with parents? Why wouldn’t they vaccinate a five year old who has a .0001% chance of having issues from Covid? Monsters!Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
We call them FEMA camps and they should be transported by black helicopters.Meltdown99 said:The only thing I’m sold on is that the vaccine should keep me alive and out of the hospital…good enough for me. If other folks choose to live with risk…so be it. However, the unvaccinated should be moved to military built field hospitals at their own expense…plus, it’d really feed into the conspiracy theorist nut jobs out there…09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Kids can still transmit, if I’m not mistaken. I understand that someone would not just jump to “the greater good” if it could pose a risk to their child’s health but it is more than just chance of survival.
I think I would vaccinate my eligible kids…but I am glad not to have that decision to make. Covid has roughly doubled the already healthy list of reasons I am glad I never had kids.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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OnWis97 said:Kids can still transmit, if I’m not mistaken. I understand that someone would not just jump to “the greater good” if it could pose a risk to their child’s health but it is more than just chance of survival.
I think I would vaccinate my eligible kids…but I am glad not to have that decision to make. Covid has roughly doubled the already healthy list of reasons I am glad I never had kids.
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Make sure they get loaded with body bags…lots of body bags.Halifax2TheMax said:
We call them FEMA camps and they should be transported by black helicopters.Meltdown99 said:The only thing I’m sold on is that the vaccine should keep me alive and out of the hospital…good enough for me. If other folks choose to live with risk…so be it. However, the unvaccinated should be moved to military built field hospitals at their own expense…plus, it’d really feed into the conspiracy theorist nut jobs out there…Give Peas A Chance…0 -
your rights end where my nose beginsMeltdown99 said:i think you should get vaccinated…but whatever happened to “my body, my choice?”By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
the decision to vaccinate our kids wasn't done lightly. it wasn't "I blindly trust the government". it wasn't "I'll do my own research". I trust the medical system (and yes, that is separate from the pharmaceutical industry). and if 99.9 % of epidemiologists, doctors, health care officials, and experts all say the same thing, then I believe them.
if I don't, why am I going to the hospital when I'm sick? or to my GP for personal health advice? it's absurd to believe the vast majority of these people are so singularly driven by a result that they'd be blind to any adverse effects.
it's so insane to me that there are so many people who will willfully believe the .01% and distrust the rest.
do I have any actual proof that my daughter has ulcerative colitis? do I know how to read colonoscopy results? did I get them independently reviewed? her specialist told us she does, so guess what? I BELIEVE HIM. i didn't do my own research. if I did and webmb told me she just had a bad stomach bug, she'd likely be dead, and I should be in prison for neglect causing death.
that being said, I'm conflicted about people choosing not to vaccinate their kids. I honestly can't say "fuck them" or "it's their choice". this isn't black and white to me. either way, it's not the kid's choice. and that sucks. who wants to be that kid who gets left out and ostracized because of a parental decision? but who wants to be that kid who grows up with a (unlikely) heart condition because of a parental decision that they made because their friends told them to fuck off if they don't?
this is a tad more nuanced than many of you are making it out to be. be kind to each other. we all came to this point in our own lives and base all of our decisions on all of those experiences. act like adults.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I'm not going to lie. If we didn't need child vaxxed to get on a cruise I probably would still be on the fence as well. But now that I see the Omicron vaccinations helping children her age avoid hospitalizations I kind of wished her second dose would be sooner than later.I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef
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I know...what a monster I am, right??? I intend to get my 5 year old vaxxed. He just turned 5 a couple weeks ago so I'm not in a huge hurry to do it. The fact that he wasn't eligible the week before and then all of a sudden the doctor is pressuring to have him vaxxed right away is what gave my wife and I a little bit of pause.bbiggs said:
Bad decision-makers. Fuck them.bootlegger10 said:What is up with parents? Why wouldn’t they vaccinate a five year old who has a .0001% chance of having issues from Covid? Monsters!0 -
all arbitrary cutoffs are kind of stupid when you think about it. one day you are too young to drink. the literal next day you can get as plastered as you want. same with consensual sex. but the fact is, we need cutoffs. there has to be a limit somewhere. the doctor is pushing it because that's the age that was successfully tested. nothing more, nothing less. he couldn't ethically push it prior to your child turning 5. he probably wanted to.Indifference71 said:
I know...what a monster I am, right??? I intend to get my 5 year old vaxxed. He just turned 5 a couple weeks ago so I'm not in a huge hurry to do it. The fact that he wasn't eligible the week before and then all of a sudden the doctor is pressuring to have him vaxxed right away is what gave my wife and I a little bit of pause.bbiggs said:
Bad decision-makers. Fuck them.bootlegger10 said:What is up with parents? Why wouldn’t they vaccinate a five year old who has a .0001% chance of having issues from Covid? Monsters!By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Got our 5-year-old his first dose of the vax yesterday. Not complaining about any soreness or anything today and he is definitely the type that would be complaining if he was hurting. Anyone I’ve known that has vaccinated their kiddos have had no issues. The pediatrician said they haven’t had any kiddos present side effects yet.0
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