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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    bootlegger10 said:
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    Hence, no trust.  The masks was one of the first big lies besides Trump’s.  That was a bad one.
    What lie about masks are you referring to?
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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,000
    "SAVE ME, BRANDON!!!"


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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,000
    edited December 2021
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    "SAVE ME, BRANDON!!!"


    i say no. it is your state, YOU fix it.

    i have had it with abbott and texas.

    rugged individualists until things get bad then he wants help. miss me with that.
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  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The only thing that works 100% is social distancing…that’s why wave 1 came under control easier.  The mask thing is a fucking joke.  I’m sure someone with their dollar store China cloth mask or homemade cloth mask offer abundance protection…maybe if everyone was wearing n 95 (must also pass a fit test)…i’m skeptical about the mask bullshit.  Yes, the science says they protect us…of course they do if people are using mask that are designed for those purposes…most are wearing their germ filled disgusting cloth mask…
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  • Posts: 16,251
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    "SAVE ME, BRANDON!!!"


    Yeah, that is pretty ironic.
  • Posts: 6,963
    bootlegger10 said:
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    And Fauci confirmed that a Covid positive kid with a broken arm counts as part of that 378. No Covid issues, broken arm.   We need legitimate numbers.
    I wonder if parents’ bad decision-making led to the kid’s broken arm. 
  • Posts: 16,251
    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    What lie about masks are you referring to?
    Anthony Fauci and the U.S. government’s noble COVID-19 lies. (slate.com)
  • Chicago Posts: 14,906
    bootlegger10 said:
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    And Fauci confirmed that a Covid positive kid with a broken arm counts as part of that 378. No Covid issues, broken arm.   We need legitimate numbers.
    Yep.  The with/from differentiation never seems to be included in any stats you see which is absolutely mind-boggling.  But the media just loves throwing around these huge numbers around to scare the shit out of everyone.  Another day of case records!!  Hospitals are filling up!!! It's like hospitals were completely empty and no one ever got sick or injured before the pandemic.
  • Posts: 9,200
    I was always interested in finding out more info about infections. Especially lately. Example 

    67,000 new case. Ok. How many were vaccinated, boosted, not vaccinated, second infections etc…. It was never information to find, unfortunately. 
  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    bootlegger10 said:
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    Anthony Fauci and the U.S. government’s noble COVID-19 lies. (slate.com)
    yes, this was done, it seems, across the board. Theresa Tamm here in canada did the same thing, apparently for the same reasons. Now, intelligent adults like ourselves can hear this information and be mildly annoyed yet understand the intent behind it. Does it sow some mistrust? No question. But creating messaging that:

    1) people will legitimately adhere to, and
    2) be backed up by all data
    3) without creating panic or causing complacency (depending on positive/negative ratio of message)

    is a very difficult tight rope to walk on. Do I agree with what he and others have done? not all the time, no. However, we saw the Toilet Paper Fiasco of March 2020. When people are told too much negative truth, they panic. When they are told too much positive truth, they get complacent. 

    So what, in your view, should he/they have done? (not challenging, honest question)
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Indifference71 said:
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    Yep.  The with/from differentiation never seems to be included in any stats you see which is absolutely mind-boggling.  But the media just loves throwing around these huge numbers around to scare the shit out of everyone.  Another day of case records!!  Hospitals are filling up!!! It's like hospitals were completely empty and no one ever got sick or injured before the pandemic.
    I'd like to know, for example, when CNN stopped having that massive red chyron on the side of the screen 24/7 with case numbers/deaths. I have a feeling it was on or around November 3, 2020 (or maybe January 6/21). 
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  • Posts: 30,879
    bootlegger10 said:
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    And Fauci confirmed that a Covid positive kid with a broken arm counts as part of that 378. No Covid issues, broken arm.   We need legitimate numbers.
    That's such a red herring. Kids rarely end up in the hospital.  And you don't get hospitalized for a broken arm either unless it's shattered and you need major surgery.  Point is that is hospitalizations suddenly have spiked in the last month,  you can feel pretty confident it's COVID. There's not a broken arm epidemic happening. 
  • Posts: 44,296
    gimmesometruth27 said:
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    i say no. it is your state, YOU fix it.

    i have had it with abbott and texas.

    rugged individualists until things get bad then he wants help. miss me with that.

    umm wasnt that already in place if they so chose to take the feds up on it? like back in march?
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    nicknyr15 said:
    I was always interested in finding out more info about infections. Especially lately. Example 

    67,000 new case. Ok. How many were vaccinated, boosted, not vaccinated, second infections etc…. It was never information to find, unfortunately. 
    really? they post this in nifty little pie charts daily here. 
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    "SAVE ME, BRANDON!!!"


    I say biden should help them. with a caveat. make him hold a presser wearing a shirt that says "Thank you, Brandon!" on the front. 
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  • Posts: 16,251
    edited December 2021
    HughFreakingDillon said:
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    yes, this was done, it seems, across the board. Theresa Tamm here in canada did the same thing, apparently for the same reasons. Now, intelligent adults like ourselves can hear this information and be mildly annoyed yet understand the intent behind it. Does it sow some mistrust? No question. But creating messaging that:

    1) people will legitimately adhere to, and
    2) be backed up by all data
    3) without creating panic or causing complacency (depending on positive/negative ratio of message)

    is a very difficult tight rope to walk on. Do I agree with what he and others have done? not all the time, no. However, we saw the Toilet Paper Fiasco of March 2020. When people are told too much negative truth, they panic. When they are told too much positive truth, they get complacent. 

    So what, in your view, should he/they have done? (not challenging, honest question)
    I think they need to tell the truth and the information they have available.  If masks are important, then say that.  

    It is tough though.  But we saw the lack of preparedness and that is what forced the lie or noble lie.  We should be more prepared.  

    The consequences of an untrustworthy government are probably worse in the long run compared to a run on masks or toilet paper.

    The government works for us.  I think we and the government forget that a lot.  It is not their place to withhold information from us that is important to our health because they weren’t prepared to deal with it.

  • St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,609
    mrussel1 said:
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    That's such a red herring. Kids rarely end up in the hospital.  And you don't get hospitalized for a broken arm either unless it's shattered and you need major surgery.  Point is that is hospitalizations suddenly have spiked in the last month,  you can feel pretty confident it's COVID. There's not a broken arm epidemic happening. 
    There’s a childhood broken arm epidemic due to oxygen-limiting masks cutting off oxygen to their brains, leading them to fall down stairs,
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  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    bootlegger10 said:
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    I think they need to tell the truth and the information they have available.  If masks are important, then say that.  

    It is tough though.  But we saw the lack of preparedness and that is what forced the lie or noble lie.  We should be more prepared.  

    The consequences of an untrustworthy government are probably worse in the long run compared to a run on masks or toilet paper.

    The government works for us.  I think we and the government forget that a lot.  It is not their place to withhold information from us that is important to our health because they weren’t prepared to deal with it.

    they do work for us, for sure, but do you think they should just trust the general public with any and all information, regardless of risk of mass panic?
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  • Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
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    That's such a red herring. Kids rarely end up in the hospital.  And you don't get hospitalized for a broken arm either unless it's shattered and you need major surgery.  Point is that is hospitalizations suddenly have spiked in the last month,  you can feel pretty confident it's COVID. There's not a broken arm epidemic happening. 
    They won't respond to this.

    Everytime a valid point is made they move the goalposts.

    It's almost impossible to have a disagreement in good faith with most people hear because I guess they just can't handle bad news.


  • Posts: 13,890
    dignin said:
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    They won't respond to this.

    Everytime a valid point is made they move the goalposts.

    It's almost impossible to have a disagreement in good faith with most people hear because I guess they just can't handle bad news.


    It is hard to have a disagreement in good faith with someone when you are being labeled a bad parent by yourself. The convo ends right there. You do not know me or how good of a parent I am but hey keep on acting you are having a disagreement in good faith. 


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