Viruses / Vaccines

dignin · December 2021

Indifference71 said:

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bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

mfc2006 · December 2021

mickeyrat said:

https://youtu.be/t421GF713QQ

HAHA

mfc2006 · December 2021

dignin said:

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Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Yup. Your first sentence is the reason why my brother isn't on a ventilator.

Smellyman · December 2021

Bentleyspop said:

And another.....

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1475821514234613763?t=qOFiVlxi-R83AekeI0K73g&s=19

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/doug-kuzma-61-newport-news-va-right-wing-podcaster-in-icu-with-covid

bootlegger10 · December 2021

dignin said:

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Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

That last comment is unnecessary. Some have perfectly good reasons. The J&J vaccine fiasco is enough support for the argument that these vaccines were rushed. If these vaccines were perfectly safe the. They wouldn’t tell people not to get the J&J vaccine months after telling people to use it.

My dad has been dealing with AFIB and serious high/low blood pressure issues ever since taking the J&J vaccine. Too much of a coincidence. He would love to take back the decision of getting vaxed. Could he have got the same issues with COVID, sure, but the fact remains most likely that the vaccine hurt him instead. Is there proof? No, but too much of a coincidence to not have those symptoms and then a few days after the vaccine having those symptoms long term.

Edit: I got the Pfizer booster last week. Decided not to mix and match since I didn’t have any issues with the Pfizer vaccine originally.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2021

bootlegger10 said:

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dignin said:

Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

That last comment is unnecessary. Some have perfectly good reasons. The J&J vaccine fiasco is enough support for the argument that these vaccines were rushed. If these vaccines were perfectly safe the. They wouldn’t tell people not to get the J&J vaccine months after telling people to use it.

My dad has been dealing with AFIB and serious high/low blood pressure issues ever since taking the J&J vaccine. Too much of a coincidence. He would love to take back the decision of getting vaxed. Could he have got the same issues with COVID, sure, but the fact remains most likely that the vaccine hurt him instead. Is there proof? No, but too much of a coincidence to not have those symptoms and then a few days after the vaccine having those symptoms long term.

Edit: I got the Pfizer booster last week. Decided not to mix and match since I didn’t have any issues with the Pfizer vaccine originally.

sorry to hear about that. hope your dad does well with meds if he needs them.

Indifference71 · December 2021

dignin said:

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Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

Alright then. Starting next week I won't be able to bring my 5 year old to restaurants or movie theaters because he isn't fully vaxxed yet. Fuck him though, right?

josevolution · December 2021

Bentleyspop said:

And another.....

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1475821514234613763?t=qOFiVlxi-R83AekeI0K73g&s=19

Totally ran out of sympathy cards for the cultists unvaccinated fools

nicknyr15 · December 2021

bootlegger10 said:

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dignin said:

Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

That last comment is unnecessary. Some have perfectly good reasons. The J&J vaccine fiasco is enough support for the argument that these vaccines were rushed. If these vaccines were perfectly safe the. They wouldn’t tell people not to get the J&J vaccine months after telling people to use it.

My dad has been dealing with AFIB and serious high/low blood pressure issues ever since taking the J&J vaccine. Too much of a coincidence. He would love to take back the decision of getting vaxed. Could he have got the same issues with COVID, sure, but the fact remains most likely that the vaccine hurt him instead. Is there proof? No, but too much of a coincidence to not have those symptoms and then a few days after the vaccine having those symptoms long term.

Edit: I got the Pfizer booster last week. Decided not to mix and match since I didn’t have any issues with the Pfizer vaccine originally.

That comment is very annoying to me as well. It either comes from a place of self righteousness or assuming anyone who isn’t vaccinated is a white , racist , anti science conservative. Which just isn’t the truth.

Anti Vaccine conspiracy theorists? Yea , I’d agree. Fuck them. But the people who looked into the facts and decided it’s not for them, I have no problem with. Vaccinated people who threw caution to the wind because they felt invincible are also responsible for spreading the virus. But who cares? People should worry about themselves and do what’s best for them.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2021

nicknyr15 said:

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bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

That last comment is unnecessary. Some have perfectly good reasons. The J&J vaccine fiasco is enough support for the argument that these vaccines were rushed. If these vaccines were perfectly safe the. They wouldn’t tell people not to get the J&J vaccine months after telling people to use it.

My dad has been dealing with AFIB and serious high/low blood pressure issues ever since taking the J&J vaccine. Too much of a coincidence. He would love to take back the decision of getting vaxed. Could he have got the same issues with COVID, sure, but the fact remains most likely that the vaccine hurt him instead. Is there proof? No, but too much of a coincidence to not have those symptoms and then a few days after the vaccine having those symptoms long term.

Edit: I got the Pfizer booster last week. Decided not to mix and match since I didn’t have any issues with the Pfizer vaccine originally.

That comment is very annoying to me as well. It either comes from a place of self righteousness or assuming anyone who isn’t vaccinated is a white , racist , anti science conservative. Which just isn’t the truth.

Anti Vaccine conspiracy theorists? Yea , I’d agree. Fuck them. But the people who looked into the facts and decided it’s not for them, I have no problem with. Vaccinated people who threw caution to the wind because they felt invincible are also responsible for spreading the virus. But who cares? People should worry about themselves and do what’s best for them.

this is the part I struggle with. I'm not saying we're throwing caution to the wind, but case numbers are at the highest they've been here since the beginning, and both my kids went to separate houses for sleepovers last night. Six families in total between the two houses. My wife authorized this unilaterally. I had a conversation with her this morning that this isn't really responsible at this point. Yeah, it's xmas break. I get it. Yeah, we're all vaxxed. I get it. But omicron spreads so fast, if even one of those kids is infected and doesn't know it, there's grandparents and parents who are high risk involved here. Now I'm getting pressure about NYE. One family and ours, which is fine (I guess), but that family was part of this sleepover madness. And he's the manager of a fucking chain restaurant. She works in the mall. Seriously. Everyone in this situation seems to think covid is over when we've entered the worst part of it.

And I'm the paranoid weirdo for the being the cautious one. It's frustrating.

nicknyr15 · December 2021

HughFreakingDillon said:

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nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

That last comment is unnecessary. Some have perfectly good reasons. The J&J vaccine fiasco is enough support for the argument that these vaccines were rushed. If these vaccines were perfectly safe the. They wouldn’t tell people not to get the J&J vaccine months after telling people to use it.

My dad has been dealing with AFIB and serious high/low blood pressure issues ever since taking the J&J vaccine. Too much of a coincidence. He would love to take back the decision of getting vaxed. Could he have got the same issues with COVID, sure, but the fact remains most likely that the vaccine hurt him instead. Is there proof? No, but too much of a coincidence to not have those symptoms and then a few days after the vaccine having those symptoms long term.

Edit: I got the Pfizer booster last week. Decided not to mix and match since I didn’t have any issues with the Pfizer vaccine originally.

That comment is very annoying to me as well. It either comes from a place of self righteousness or assuming anyone who isn’t vaccinated is a white , racist , anti science conservative. Which just isn’t the truth.

Anti Vaccine conspiracy theorists? Yea , I’d agree. Fuck them. But the people who looked into the facts and decided it’s not for them, I have no problem with. Vaccinated people who threw caution to the wind because they felt invincible are also responsible for spreading the virus. But who cares? People should worry about themselves and do what’s best for them.

this is the part I struggle with. I'm not saying we're throwing caution to the wind, but case numbers are at the highest they've been here since the beginning, and both my kids went to separate houses for sleepovers last night. Six families in total between the two houses. My wife authorized this unilaterally. I had a conversation with her this morning that this isn't really responsible at this point. Yeah, it's xmas break. I get it. Yeah, we're all vaxxed. I get it. But omicron spreads so fast, if even one of those kids is infected and doesn't know it, there's grandparents and parents who are high risk involved here. Now I'm getting pressure about NYE. One family and ours, which is fine (I guess), but that family was part of this sleepover madness. And he's the manager of a fucking chain restaurant. She works in the mall. Seriously. Everyone in this situation seems to think covid is over when we've entered the worst part of it.

And I'm the paranoid weirdo for the being the cautious one. It's frustrating.

I know man. It’s a tough, tough situation and I feel for you. I just cannot wait to be past this.

lastexitlondon · December 2021

HughFreakingDillon said:

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nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

That last comment is unnecessary. Some have perfectly good reasons. The J&J vaccine fiasco is enough support for the argument that these vaccines were rushed. If these vaccines were perfectly safe the. They wouldn’t tell people not to get the J&J vaccine months after telling people to use it.

My dad has been dealing with AFIB and serious high/low blood pressure issues ever since taking the J&J vaccine. Too much of a coincidence. He would love to take back the decision of getting vaxed. Could he have got the same issues with COVID, sure, but the fact remains most likely that the vaccine hurt him instead. Is there proof? No, but too much of a coincidence to not have those symptoms and then a few days after the vaccine having those symptoms long term.

Edit: I got the Pfizer booster last week. Decided not to mix and match since I didn’t have any issues with the Pfizer vaccine originally.

That comment is very annoying to me as well. It either comes from a place of self righteousness or assuming anyone who isn’t vaccinated is a white , racist , anti science conservative. Which just isn’t the truth.

Anti Vaccine conspiracy theorists? Yea , I’d agree. Fuck them. But the people who looked into the facts and decided it’s not for them, I have no problem with. Vaccinated people who threw caution to the wind because they felt invincible are also responsible for spreading the virus. But who cares? People should worry about themselves and do what’s best for them.

this is the part I struggle with. I'm not saying we're throwing caution to the wind, but case numbers are at the highest they've been here since the beginning, and both my kids went to separate houses for sleepovers last night. Six families in total between the two houses. My wife authorized this unilaterally. I had a conversation with her this morning that this isn't really responsible at this point. Yeah, it's xmas break. I get it. Yeah, we're all vaxxed. I get it. But omicron spreads so fast, if even one of those kids is infected and doesn't know it, there's grandparents and parents who are high risk involved here. Now I'm getting pressure about NYE. One family and ours, which is fine (I guess), but that family was part of this sleepover madness. And he's the manager of a fucking chain restaurant. She works in the mall. Seriously. Everyone in this situation seems to think covid is over when we've entered the worst part of it.

And I'm the paranoid weirdo for the being the cautious one. It's frustrating.

You are definitely not paranoid or over the top at all. We are in a shit storm here now things are gonna start collapsing over the next 2 weeks not from severity but from cases
Everything will collapse because everyone will be at home isolating. It fuckin pisses me off
My dad has cancer
So what happens when is cancer nurse and oncologist are off for 10 days? Its a shit storm here. You are definitely not paranoid

Meltdown99 · December 2021

I am fully vaxxed times 3. I could give a rats ass what someone’s vaxx status is…

And people who were vaccine hesitant before, will be even more hesitant considering less than 6 months after the second dose boosters are needed…maybe the idiot politicians should quit with the bullshit that we’ll vaccine our way out of this. Have we vaccines away the flu?

In Ontario it was at first 75% vaccinated and restrictions lifted, then it was 80, then 85 and so on…we are over 80% and the restrictions are coming back…fear sells I guess.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2021

no one (that I've seen) has been saying we'll vaccine our way out of this. at least not lately. vaccines are the best way to keep our health care system afloat. if you don't understand that at this point......

mfc2006 · December 2021

mfc2006 said:

Working from home this week because my brother tested positive & we were around him a lot on the 24th & 25th. He was vaccinated, but not boosted & feels like shit. I feel fine, but can't get tested until Thursday morning.

My brother & his wife still feel like shit. The rest of us haven't shown any symptoms whatsoever. That being said, we've all been working from home and not leaving the house until we're able to get tested (tomorrow). We cancelled plans with friends tonight and they just didn't get it. They were pissed because we cancelled. I explained that we may be asymptomatic and don't want to risk getting them sick. They didn't care and were assholes about, to be honest. So strange.

People think the pandemic is over because we have vaccines. I just don't understand it at all.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2021

mfc2006 said:

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mfc2006 said:

Working from home this week because my brother tested positive & we were around him a lot on the 24th & 25th. He was vaccinated, but not boosted & feels like shit. I feel fine, but can't get tested until Thursday morning.

My brother & his wife still feel like shit. The rest of us haven't shown any symptoms whatsoever. That being said, we've all been working from home and not leaving the house until we're able to get tested (tomorrow). We cancelled plans with friends tonight and they just didn't get it. They were pissed because we cancelled. I explained that we may be asymptomatic and don't want to risk getting them sick. They didn't care and were assholes about, to be honest. So strange.

People think the pandemic is over because we have vaccines. I just don't understand it at all.

yeah, I'm going to have about 7 people pissed at me if/when I pull the plug on NYE. my oldest daughter, still at that sleepover, just texted my wife to pick her up to take her to a different friend's house to hang out. WTF

Meltdown99 · December 2021

World Junior hockey Championship cancelled...they had 4 cases

bootlegger10 · December 2021

mfc2006 said:

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mfc2006 said:

Working from home this week because my brother tested positive & we were around him a lot on the 24th & 25th. He was vaccinated, but not boosted & feels like shit. I feel fine, but can't get tested until Thursday morning.

My brother & his wife still feel like shit. The rest of us haven't shown any symptoms whatsoever. That being said, we've all been working from home and not leaving the house until we're able to get tested (tomorrow). We cancelled plans with friends tonight and they just didn't get it. They were pissed because we cancelled. I explained that we may be asymptomatic and don't want to risk getting them sick. They didn't care and were assholes about, to be honest. So strange.

People think the pandemic is over because we have vaccines. I just don't understand it at all.

We keep worrying about the over 65 crowd and rightfully so. I wonder though if you polled the over 65 crowd what percentage would say we accept the risks but want to see our family and friends?

My parents say come and visit. They understand the risks but seeing their loved ones is worth the risk to them versus spending what could be years isolated from society.

You care about your friends and that is what we all should do. But from your friends’ perspective, they made their own informed decision that there is a less than .1% chance they will die from Covid and they are fine with that risk. You made the right call though as we shouldn’t be reckless if we know that we have been exposed.

gimmesometruth27 · December 2021

nicknyr15 said:

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HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

That last comment is unnecessary. Some have perfectly good reasons. The J&J vaccine fiasco is enough support for the argument that these vaccines were rushed. If these vaccines were perfectly safe the. They wouldn’t tell people not to get the J&J vaccine months after telling people to use it.

My dad has been dealing with AFIB and serious high/low blood pressure issues ever since taking the J&J vaccine. Too much of a coincidence. He would love to take back the decision of getting vaxed. Could he have got the same issues with COVID, sure, but the fact remains most likely that the vaccine hurt him instead. Is there proof? No, but too much of a coincidence to not have those symptoms and then a few days after the vaccine having those symptoms long term.

Edit: I got the Pfizer booster last week. Decided not to mix and match since I didn’t have any issues with the Pfizer vaccine originally.

That comment is very annoying to me as well. It either comes from a place of self righteousness or assuming anyone who isn’t vaccinated is a white , racist , anti science conservative. Which just isn’t the truth.

Anti Vaccine conspiracy theorists? Yea , I’d agree. Fuck them. But the people who looked into the facts and decided it’s not for them, I have no problem with. Vaccinated people who threw caution to the wind because they felt invincible are also responsible for spreading the virus. But who cares? People should worry about themselves and do what’s best for them.

this is the part I struggle with. I'm not saying we're throwing caution to the wind, but case numbers are at the highest they've been here since the beginning, and both my kids went to separate houses for sleepovers last night. Six families in total between the two houses. My wife authorized this unilaterally. I had a conversation with her this morning that this isn't really responsible at this point. Yeah, it's xmas break. I get it. Yeah, we're all vaxxed. I get it. But omicron spreads so fast, if even one of those kids is infected and doesn't know it, there's grandparents and parents who are high risk involved here. Now I'm getting pressure about NYE. One family and ours, which is fine (I guess), but that family was part of this sleepover madness. And he's the manager of a fucking chain restaurant. She works in the mall. Seriously. Everyone in this situation seems to think covid is over when we've entered the worst part of it.

And I'm the paranoid weirdo for the being the cautious one. It's frustrating.

I know man. It’s a tough, tough situation and I feel for you. I just cannot wait to be past this.

i've got a newsflash for ya. we are not "getting past this."

63% vaccination rate in the US, which is abysmally low. the unvaccinated are again filling up our hospitals and our icus and are making this thing stick around. i have had it with wilfully unvaccinated adults, and at this point, if they want to fuck around and find out that is on them.

i am 100% on board with insurance companies raising premiums on wilfully unvaxed adults and things like that.

but we are not "getting past it".

HughFreakingDillon · December 2021

gimmesometruth27 said:

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bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

Indifference71 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Fauci Says Domestic Travel Vaccination Rule Should Be Considered (msn.com)

I'm vaccinated (including booster) and have flown 5 times in the last couple months, but i disagree with this. You can catch the virus and transmit whether you are vaxed or non-vaxed. The unvaccinated have been on planes and in restaurants ever since March 2020. Why start now? COVID19 is terrible, but time for people to make their own decisions about what they are comfortable doing and move on.

Yep. I'm fully vaxxed and currently dealing with my own case of covid. It's blatantly obvious that being vaxxed does not help contain the spread so why on earth would they institute a mandate like this?? It will do nothing. It's like the vax mandate that Chicago and Cook County have going into place in January where you have to be fully vaxxed to go to gyms, restaurants, movies, etc... NYC and LA have had a similar mandate in place for months and they are both seeing record amounts of cases. What science are they following here??? It's all just political theater.

The chances of you going to the hospital and dying are far lower because you are vaccinated.

That's why we still want people to be vaccinated and why we should be making life less convenient for the unvaccinated.

Fuck the unvaccinated.

That last comment is unnecessary. Some have perfectly good reasons. The J&J vaccine fiasco is enough support for the argument that these vaccines were rushed. If these vaccines were perfectly safe the. They wouldn’t tell people not to get the J&J vaccine months after telling people to use it.

My dad has been dealing with AFIB and serious high/low blood pressure issues ever since taking the J&J vaccine. Too much of a coincidence. He would love to take back the decision of getting vaxed. Could he have got the same issues with COVID, sure, but the fact remains most likely that the vaccine hurt him instead. Is there proof? No, but too much of a coincidence to not have those symptoms and then a few days after the vaccine having those symptoms long term.

Edit: I got the Pfizer booster last week. Decided not to mix and match since I didn’t have any issues with the Pfizer vaccine originally.

That comment is very annoying to me as well. It either comes from a place of self righteousness or assuming anyone who isn’t vaccinated is a white , racist , anti science conservative. Which just isn’t the truth.

Anti Vaccine conspiracy theorists? Yea , I’d agree. Fuck them. But the people who looked into the facts and decided it’s not for them, I have no problem with. Vaccinated people who threw caution to the wind because they felt invincible are also responsible for spreading the virus. But who cares? People should worry about themselves and do what’s best for them.

this is the part I struggle with. I'm not saying we're throwing caution to the wind, but case numbers are at the highest they've been here since the beginning, and both my kids went to separate houses for sleepovers last night. Six families in total between the two houses. My wife authorized this unilaterally. I had a conversation with her this morning that this isn't really responsible at this point. Yeah, it's xmas break. I get it. Yeah, we're all vaxxed. I get it. But omicron spreads so fast, if even one of those kids is infected and doesn't know it, there's grandparents and parents who are high risk involved here. Now I'm getting pressure about NYE. One family and ours, which is fine (I guess), but that family was part of this sleepover madness. And he's the manager of a fucking chain restaurant. She works in the mall. Seriously. Everyone in this situation seems to think covid is over when we've entered the worst part of it.

And I'm the paranoid weirdo for the being the cautious one. It's frustrating.

I know man. It’s a tough, tough situation and I feel for you. I just cannot wait to be past this.

i've got a newsflash for ya. we are not "getting past this."

63% vaccination rate in the US, which is abysmally low. the unvaccinated are again filling up our hospitals and our icus and are making this thing stick around. i have had it with wilfully unvaccinated adults, and at this point, if they want to fuck around and find out that is on them.

i am 100% on board with insurance companies raising premiums on wilfully unvaxed adults and things like that.

but we are not "getting past it".

well, we will actually. it may be longer than any pandemic in history, but we will. all pandemics end. that's just a fact. whether it be through mass death, or the virus mutates so it's milder and keeps itself alive (keeping my fingers crossed that this is what omicron is), like today's flu which was formerly known as the spanish flu.

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