Viruses / Vaccines

static111

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.

Good Lord

soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
government? 

remember when there was demand for trump to force businesses to build ventilators and test kits with the defense production act and everyone was up in arms about it?  Why aren't we there now?

Meltdown99

Suck useful place

nicknyr15

static111 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.

Good Lord

soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
government? 

remember when there was demand for trump to force businesses to build ventilators and test kits with the defense production act and everyone was up in arms about it?  Why aren't we there now?

Bezos? The squad? Guns? Manchin? I’m not sure. 

Halifax2TheMax

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

The Juggler said:

nicknyr15 said:

The Juggler said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.

Good Lord

soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
government? 

I thought “government was the problem?”

No blame goes to elected repubs? You know, all those states’ rights, repub governors and legislators that we keep hearing are so great? Does all the responsibility fall on Brandon?

Good lord is right. Want a test? Go to an airport and pay anywhere from $250 to $400. Another faux outrage.

I’ll ask again, where is corporate America with huge profits to be made with such low hanging fruit, there for the picking?

All I’m saying is you were singing a different tune last year. I understand you take politics very seriously. Almost like a cult or a religion to you. Apparently the responsibility doesn’t fall on “Brandon”. Actually, didn’t he say it falls on the states? So I guess you’re right. He did say there’s “no federal solution”. 

Oh jesus christ you two. That falls on the states thing was taken completely out of context. lol 

Cool. 

lol. Instead of simply inhaling the 15 second clip circulating on social media, I'd ask you to consume the longer 5 minute clip for the context. 

I’m not on social media. And I don’t care enough. I was just responding to someone who seems to blame everyone except the federal government for the situation we’re in and it comes off as fake. Last year it was no one but the federal governments fault. 

Can you articulate what Brandon could or should have done to alleviate the testing crisis?

Personally, I blame The Squad.

Nah I’m good. Another funny statement blaming the squad. So funny. Can you articulate one thing President Biden has done wrong regarding this pandemic so far? I mean, he was supposed to stomp
out this virus right? Maybe just maybe people were kind of underestimating how hard it is to to deal with a pandemic of this magnitude? Seemed like everyone had the answers last year. Yet , here we are. 

I guess the answer is no, then. I blame a whole varying set of folks and institutions, from anti-vaxxers & anti-maskers to corporate America. At least Brandon isn't saying things like, "it'll be gone by Easter" or "shine a light or use bleach," etc. And he and House dems shepherded a potential solution through the house without one repub vote. But its all Brandon's fault and yes, here we are. In all its misguided faux outrage and misdirected blame.

Brandon should have called out the military and made everyone stay locked in their houses for 30 days. There, one thing Brandon did wrong. Oh, and taken everyone's gun. Thats two. Two more than you.

Nowhere did I say this is all
Bidens fault. Just pointing out that you said NONE of this is his fault and continue to say that . And your last paragraph is ridiculous, totally unrealistic and cannot be taken seriously. 

But when asked what could or should Brandon have done, you responded with "Naw, I'm good." So you don't have any suggestions and yet are critical despite the BBB having what you seem to be clamoring for? Good lord. And for the record, I hadn't commented on whether Brandon was at fault or not before you criticized my comments. And for the record, I'm not sure what else Brandon could be doing. But I do know that repubs and corporate America could be doing a whole hell of a lot more but they're not.

See how that works? You can't be taken seriously either if you can't be bothered with listing or naming at least one thing Brandon could or should have done as it relates to this issue.

Did you have a nice Xmas?

Halifax2TheMax

jpgoegel said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Merkin Baller said:

Did someone say merch? 

Ron Desantis was selling “don’t Fauci my Florida” shirts & koozies. 

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/07/14/dont-fauci-my-florida-you-must-see-gov-ron-desantis-official-merchandise/

But is there fan boy fauci merch?

actually, yes.  granted it's not run my fauci or any political organization (i think), but there's bobbleheads and stuff like this

https://www.amazon.com/Fauci-Real-Political-Action-Figure/dp/B09BD9TD98

Who knew? Action figures? How about a lawn sign and a winter hat?

mickeyrat

static111 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.

Good Lord

soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
government? 

remember when there was demand for trump to force businesses to build ventilators and test kits with the defense production act and everyone was up in arms about it?  Why aren't we there now?

Halifax2TheMax said:

Yea, Brandon hasn't done enough. Maybe this faux outrage should be directed at Joe Manchin? What did he waste with his ego stroking? A couple of months? Or all the repubs who didn't vote for or voiced all their vociferous opposition to all that socialism? Just a thought.

President Biden's COVID-19 Plan | The White House

Mobilizing Industry to Expand Easy-to-Use Testing Production

President Biden’s plan will mobilize industry due to the urgent and compelling need to accelerate the production of rapid COVID-19 tests, including at-home tests, and continue to ensure that manufacturers prioritize creating these products to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and its variants. Using authorities of the Defense Production Act and through the procurement of nearly $2 billion in rapid point-of-care and over-the-counter at-home COVID tests—280 million tests in all—from multiple COVID-19 test manufacturers, the Administration will ensure a broad, sustained industrial capacity for COVID-19 test manufacturing. These tests will be available to support a range of needs, including long-term care facilities, community testing sites, critical infrastructure, shelters serving individuals experiencing homelessness, prisons and jails, and other vulnerable populations and congregate settings. Further, the action announced today will provide for tests for use by communities, adequate stockpiles, and the needed sustained production to be able to surge additional manufacturing, should we need it in the future.

Making At-Home Tests More Affordable

To improve access to rapid tests for all consumers, top retailers that sell at-home, rapid COVID-19 tests—Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger—will offer to sell those tests at-cost for the next three months. This means that Americans will be able to buy these tests at their local retailers or online for up to 35 percent less starting by the end of this week. The Administration has also taken action so that Medicaid must cover at-home tests for free for beneficiaries, and that states should ensure that any tools they use to manage at-home testing do not establish arbitrary barriers for people seeking care.

Sending Free Rapid, At-Home Tests to Food Banks and Community Health Centers

To ensure that every American—no matter their income level–can access free, convenient, at-home tests, we will send 25 million free at-home rapid tests to 1,400 community health centers and hundreds of food banks.

Expanding Free, Pharmacy Testing

As part of our strategy to ensure the most convenient access to free testing, we will expand the number of retail pharmacy sites around the country where anyone can get tested for free through the HHS free testing program to 10,000 pharmacies.

The Build Back Better Framework | The White House

I was against socialism before I was for it. Good lord.

mickeyrat

 https://www.whitehouse.gov/covidplan/#testing-masking

static111

mickeyrat said:

static111 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why didn’t private businesses ramp up the production so all the retailers could have plenty? Why didn’t private labs and testing facilities ramp up to meet the demand? Especially, in and around airports? Where was Jeff Bezos in this crisis? Where were the market forces to cure our ills? Lots of opportunities out there but sadly big business didn’t step up.

Good Lord

soooooo, no blame goes to the federal
government? 

remember when there was demand for trump to force businesses to build ventilators and test kits with the defense production act and everyone was up in arms about it?  Why aren't we there now?

Halifax2TheMax said:

Yea, Brandon hasn't done enough. Maybe this faux outrage should be directed at Joe Manchin? What did he waste with his ego stroking? A couple of months? Or all the repubs who didn't vote for or voiced all their vociferous opposition to all that socialism? Just a thought.

President Biden's COVID-19 Plan | The White House

Mobilizing Industry to Expand Easy-to-Use Testing Production

President Biden’s plan will mobilize industry due to the urgent and compelling need to accelerate the production of rapid COVID-19 tests, including at-home tests, and continue to ensure that manufacturers prioritize creating these products to prevent the spread of COVID-19 and its variants. Using authorities of the Defense Production Act and through the procurement of nearly $2 billion in rapid point-of-care and over-the-counter at-home COVID tests—280 million tests in all—from multiple COVID-19 test manufacturers, the Administration will ensure a broad, sustained industrial capacity for COVID-19 test manufacturing. These tests will be available to support a range of needs, including long-term care facilities, community testing sites, critical infrastructure, shelters serving individuals experiencing homelessness, prisons and jails, and other vulnerable populations and congregate settings. Further, the action announced today will provide for tests for use by communities, adequate stockpiles, and the needed sustained production to be able to surge additional manufacturing, should we need it in the future.

Making At-Home Tests More Affordable

To improve access to rapid tests for all consumers, top retailers that sell at-home, rapid COVID-19 tests—Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger—will offer to sell those tests at-cost for the next three months. This means that Americans will be able to buy these tests at their local retailers or online for up to 35 percent less starting by the end of this week. The Administration has also taken action so that Medicaid must cover at-home tests for free for beneficiaries, and that states should ensure that any tools they use to manage at-home testing do not establish arbitrary barriers for people seeking care.

Sending Free Rapid, At-Home Tests to Food Banks and Community Health Centers

To ensure that every American—no matter their income level–can access free, convenient, at-home tests, we will send 25 million free at-home rapid tests to 1,400 community health centers and hundreds of food banks.

Expanding Free, Pharmacy Testing

As part of our strategy to ensure the most convenient access to free testing, we will expand the number of retail pharmacy sites around the country where anyone can get tested for free through the HHS free testing program to 10,000 pharmacies.

The Build Back Better Framework | The White House

I was against socialism before I was for it. Good lord.

Hahah damn. I didn't know he was using the defense production act for this. Thanks for letting me know.

static111

With omicron cases spreading like wildfire, the White House is finally taking steps to make free antigen tests available to all. But this fall, Vanity Fair has learned, it dismissed a bold plan to ramp up rapid testing ahead of the holidays. Frustrated experts explain how confusion, distrust, and a single-minded fixation on vaccinating Americans left testing on the back burner for so long.

"White House press secretary Jen Psaki seemed to deride the very idea of free nationwide home tests. “Should we just send one to every American?” she mused sarcastically from the briefing room podium. “Then what happens if you—if every American has one test? How much does that cost, and then what happens after that?”"

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/the-biden-administration-rejected-an-october-proposal-for-free-rapid-tests-for-the-holidays

Halifax2TheMax

static111 said:

With omicron cases spreading like wildfire, the White House is finally taking steps to make free antigen tests available to all. But this fall, Vanity Fair has learned, it dismissed a bold plan to ramp up rapid testing ahead of the holidays. Frustrated experts explain how confusion, distrust, and a single-minded fixation on vaccinating Americans left testing on the back burner for so long.

"White House press secretary Jen Psaki seemed to deride the very idea of free nationwide home tests. “Should we just send one to every American?” she mused sarcastically from the briefing room podium. “Then what happens if you—if every American has one test? How much does that cost, and then what happens after that?”"

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/the-biden-administration-rejected-an-october-proposal-for-free-rapid-tests-for-the-holidays

Jen raises a valid point though. How many tests should someone take? One a day? Two a day? Every other day? Why are all these people wanting tests last week and this week but not three months ago? What’s the reasoning behind a sudden surge in testing demand?

My employer requires that you be tested once to 3 times per week based upon the number of days per week that you’re in the office. But the kicker is is that it’s self administered, dropped off to be tested and you get to go to work before the results are known (they typically come in 12 hours after being left to be tested). And my employer has directed managers to allow those who can work from home to continue to do so until the end of January, to reduce the demand of testing and out of an abundance of caution with omicron.

So, you have a bunch of people testing at home and regardless of their results, then what? 40% refuses to get vaccinated and you expect these home testers to stay home, not travel and voluntarily self isolate if they’re positive? Please.

FiveBelow

It finally got me. I lost my taste and smell on Christmas evening after experiencing some mild cold/allergy like symptoms. Tested positive yesterday after a negative on Sunday. I had a mild fever last night that broke early this morning, and other than some sinus pressure with a little congestion I’ve felt fine. Taste and smell seem to be returning today as well. I received 2 doses of recently “expired” Pfizer without a booster. Looking forward to some natural immunity, and hopefully a new year with much less severe covid going around for everyone. 

mickeyrat

  https://youtu.be/t421GF713QQ

Merkin Baller

mickeyrat said:

  https://youtu.be/t421GF713QQ

Funny and timely. 

Spunkie

In Alberta...

mickeyrat

 

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-travel-lifestyle-health-26c6454c62ac93d15d741240f0f5f5ac

Coronavirus pandemic Joe Biden Air travel Infectious diseases Anthony Fauci

Fauci: US should consider vaccine mandate for US air travel

By ZEKE MILLER

Today

WASHINGTON (AP) — Dr. Anthony Fauci, the top U.S. infectious disease expert, said the nation should consider a vaccination mandate for domestic air travel, signaling a potential embrace of an idea the Biden administration has previously eschewed, as COVID-19 cases spike.

Fauci, President Joe Biden’s chief science adviser on the pandemic response, said that such a mandate might drive up the nation's lagging vaccination rate as well as confer stronger protection on flights, for which federal regulations require all those age 2 and older to wear a mask.

“When you make vaccination a requirement, that’s another incentive to get more people vaccinated," Fauci told MSNBC on Monday. “If you want to do that with domestic flights, I think that’s something that seriously should be considered.”

The Biden administration has thus far balked at imposing a vaccination requirement for domestic air travel. Two officials said Biden’s science advisers have yet to make a formal recommendation for such a requirement to the president.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said a vaccine mandate on planes could trigger a host of logistical and legal concerns.

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The U.S. currently mandates that most foreign nationals traveling to the U.S. be fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, though citizens and permanent residents only need to show proof of a negative test taken within a day of boarding.

US President Joe Biden on Monday pledged the full support of the federal government to states facing surges in COVID-19 cases from the more transmissible omicron variant and a run on at-home tests. (Dec. 27)

Federal rules don’t require people travelling by air within the U.S. to show a negative test. Hawaii requires travelers to test or show proof of vaccination to avoid a mandatory quarantine.

Biden did not respond to questions on whether he was considering implementing a domestic air travel vaccination requirement, but he told reporters the subject was discussed on a call with the nation's governors Monday morning.

“They asked Dr. Fauci some more questions about everything from whether or not he thought he was going to move to test at home — I mean, on air flights and that kind of thing,” Biden said of the call before departing the White House for his home in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.

During the virtual meeting with governors, Biden pledged the full support of the federal government to states facing surges in COVID-19 cases from the more-transmissible omicron variant and a run on at-home tests that dominated headlines over the holiday season.

“My message is: If you need something, say something, and we’re going to have your back any way we can," Biden said. He acknowledged long lines and chaotic scenes as Americans sought out testing amid the case surge and as they looked to safely gather with family and friends over the holiday.

“Seeing how tough it was for some folks to get a test this weekend shows that we have more work to do,” he said. He referenced his administration’s plan to make 500 million rapid tests available to Americans beginning next month through an as-yet-to-be-developed website.

Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, the National Governors Association chairman, raised concerns Biden's plan could get in the way of state efforts to boost supply of tests.

“That dries up the supply chain for what we might offer as governors,” he said, saying the lack of supply “has become a real challenge.”

Biden assured Hutchinson that the federal effort won’t interfere with state actions. “This gets solved at the state level,” he said.

A White House official said the new tests would come from new manufacturing capacity and wouldn’t interfere with existing supply chains.

Earlier this year the White House explored a domestic vaccination requirement for flights, or one requiring either vaccination or proof of negative test. But officials have not been eager to mandate vaccination for domestic air travel because they expected it to face immediate legal challenges, mitigating its potential effectiveness as a tool to drive up vaccinations.

Pressed last week on why Biden had not mandated vaccinations for domestic air travel, White House press secretary Jen Psaki told MSNBC that “we know that masking can be, is, very effective on airplanes."

“We also know that putting in place that additional restriction might delay flights, might have additional implications,” she added. "We would do it, though, if the health impact was overwhelming. So we rely always on the advice of our health and medical experts. That isn’t a step at this point that they had determined we need to take.”

Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show more than 241 million Americans, about 77% of the eligible population age 5 and over, have received at least one shot of a COVID-19 vaccine. Officials believe, though, that there is some overcount in the figures due to record-keeping errors in the administration of booster shots.

Since the summer, the Biden administration has embraced various vaccination requirements as a way to get unvaccinated Americans to roll up their sleeves. It has instituted requirements that federal workers, federal contractors and those who work in health care get their shots, and that employers with 100 or more employees institute vaccination-or-testing requirements for their workers.

Those vaccination requirements have been mired in legal wrangling, with the Supreme Court set to hear arguments Jan. 7 in cases seeking to overturn them.

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Associated Press writer Darlene Superville in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, contributed.

mickeyrat

Surely there are other qualified people to be spokespersons for NIAID.

josevolution

lol a year ago more than 50% of population didn’t even believe that the virus was real today they all want free test kits 🤣🤣

Meltdown99

Undertakers, rabbis join global fight promoting COVID shots

https://www.cp24.com/world/undertakers-rabbis-join-global-fight-promoting-covid-shots-1.5720922



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRxYLfq78g

Poncier

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

With omicron cases spreading like wildfire, the White House is finally taking steps to make free antigen tests available to all. But this fall, Vanity Fair has learned, it dismissed a bold plan to ramp up rapid testing ahead of the holidays. Frustrated experts explain how confusion, distrust, and a single-minded fixation on vaccinating Americans left testing on the back burner for so long.

"White House press secretary Jen Psaki seemed to deride the very idea of free nationwide home tests. “Should we just send one to every American?” she mused sarcastically from the briefing room podium. “Then what happens if you—if every American has one test? How much does that cost, and then what happens after that?”"

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/the-biden-administration-rejected-an-october-proposal-for-free-rapid-tests-for-the-holidays

 Why are all these people wanting tests last week and this week but not three months ago? What’s the reasoning behind a sudden surge in testing demand?

Holiday travel and gatherings clearly is fueling the recent spike in testing.

Bentleyspop

And another.....

https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1475821514234613763?t=qOFiVlxi-R83AekeI0K73g&s=19