Capitol Riots 2

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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    33 months < five years

    disappointing
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    CM189191 said:
    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    33 months < five years

    disappointing
    You can't charge someone with treason when no foreign power is involved, I do not believe.  You could reach to sedition, but I don't even think that's in line here.  It was against the statute prohibiting threats against elected officials if I'm not mistaken. 
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    33 months < five years

    disappointing
    You can't charge someone with treason when no foreign power is involved, I do not believe.  You could reach to sedition, but I don't even think that's in line here.  It was against the statute prohibiting threats against elected officials if I'm not mistaken. 

    TIL about treason, sedition & insurrection
    thx!

    https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2021/01/treason-sedition-and-insurrection-whats-the-difference/

    Not sure a foreign power needs to be involved, just an 'enemy'.  I would think the guy carrying a Confederate flag in the capital dome would fall under that category.


    Frankly, I don't care what the charges are, throw the damn book at them and see what sticks
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  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    33 months < five years

    disappointing
    You can't charge someone with treason when no foreign power is involved, I do not believe.  You could reach to sedition, but I don't even think that's in line here.  It was against the statute prohibiting threats against elected officials if I'm not mistaken. 

    TIL about treason, sedition & insurrection
    thx!

    https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2021/01/treason-sedition-and-insurrection-whats-the-difference/

    Not sure a foreign power needs to be involved, just an 'enemy'.  I would think the guy carrying a Confederate flag in the capital dome would fall under that category.


    Frankly, I don't care what the charges are, throw the damn book at them and see what sticks
    Worked out well for Kenosha Kyle.
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  • And some more brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy that some thought couldn’t happen here. When does it become acceptable to call them nazis? Deathsantis is POOTWH but waaaaaaaaaaaay more slick, capable and willing and able to grab the brass ring.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,410
    And some more brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy that some thought couldn’t happen here. When does it become acceptable to call them nazis? Deathsantis is POOTWH but waaaaaaaaaaaay more slick, capable and willing and able to grab the brass ring.

    https://apple.news/AXSXhHtaXTj6bGyPEw7wb2w



    Florida would become the 23rd state with a state guard, according to the governor’s office.



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  • mickeyrat said:
    And some more brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy that some thought couldn’t happen here. When does it become acceptable to call them nazis? Deathsantis is POOTWH but waaaaaaaaaaaay more slick, capable and willing and able to grab the brass ring.

    https://apple.news/AXSXhHtaXTj6bGyPEw7wb2w



    Florida would become the 23rd state with a state guard, according to the governor’s office.



    I don’t trust anything Flo Rida does and I certainly don’t trust how Deathsantis would utilize a “state” guard.
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  • Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited December 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    And some more brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy that some thought couldn’t happen here. When does it become acceptable to call them nazis? Deathsantis is POOTWH but waaaaaaaaaaaay more slick, capable and willing and able to grab the brass ring.

    https://apple.news/AXSXhHtaXTj6bGyPEw7wb2w



    Florida would become the 23rd state with a state guard, according to the governor’s office.



    True but trump only lives in one of those states.

    a state guard answering to only state authorities in Florida.  Kind of a scary thought considering what this thread is about 

    why now? Context is as important as the fact that other states have guards.  
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592

    Good show! 
    Look like others are being included in the lawsuit as well:
    The lawsuit filed in federal court moments ago lists as defendants not only the far right, white nationalist groups the Proud Boys (of Aubrey, Texas, per the suit) and Oathkeepers (of Las Vegas, Nevada), but also lists 32 individuals deemed to have associations to those groups, as well as noting there are 50 other unnamed defendants collectively referred to as “John and Jane Does 1 - 50”.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    edited December 2021
    The Big Lie indeed. What was that about "projection" again?

    Florida Trump supporters arrested on charges of casting more than one vote in 2020 election

    Three Central Florida residents who have expressed support for former president Donald Trump were recently arrested following reports that they cast more than one vote during the 2020 election, according to various Florida news media outlets.

    Jay Ketcik, John Rider and Joan Halstead, who all live in The Villages in Sumter County, Fla., face felony charges and up to five years in prison for allegedly casting more than one ballot in the most recent presidential contest, according to county arrest records.

    The three were jailed after Sumter County Supervisor of Elections Bill Keen launched a probe of allegations of voting irregularities, according to prosecutors. Keen is not commenting on the cases, given the ongoing criminal investigation.

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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,769
    How many times have we seen accusations from that group turn out to be something they've done themselves?
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,410
    Kat said:
    How many times have we seen accusations from that group turn out to be something they've done themselves?
    I know. Pick me, pick me!!!!!


    when is everytime, Alex?


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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Kat said:
    How many times have we seen accusations from that group turn out to be something they've done themselves?
    You're totally right. Democrats never do that!

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    JB16057 said:
    Kat said:
    How many times have we seen accusations from that group turn out to be something they've done themselves?
    You're totally right. Democrats never do that!

    When it comes to Trump, every accusation is a confession. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Kat said:
    How many times have we seen accusations from that group turn out to be something they've done themselves?
    You're totally right. Democrats never do that!

    When it comes to Trump, every accusation is a confession. 
    Every denial is an admission 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,129
    projection, anyone?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    5 yrs isn't enough....

    Capitol rioter gets 5 years in jail after throwing fire extinguisher at police

  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,410
    Prosecutors break down charges, convictions for 725 arrested so far in Jan. 6 attack on U.S. Capitol  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/31/capitol-deadly-attack-insurrection-arrested-convicted/ 


     Prosecutors break down charges, convictions for 725 arrested so far in Jan. 6 attack on U.S. Capitol
    By Keith L. Alexander
    December 31 at 4:40 PM EST
    Federal prosecutors in the District have charged more than 725 individuals with various crimes in connection with the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection, when hundreds of rioters forced their way into the U.S. Capitol, the U.S. attorney’s office said Friday.
    As the country nears the first anniversary of the storming of the Capitol, the U.S. attorney’s office in the District, the largest office of federal prosecutors in the nation, released a breakdown of the arrests and convictions associated with the attack.
    [The Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol was neither a spontaneous act nor an isolated event]
    Of those arrested, 225 people were charged with assault or resisting arrest. More than 75 of those were charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon against police officers. The office said 140 police officers, including Capitol officers and members of the D.C. police department, were victimized during the attack.
    The office said about 10 individuals were charged with assaulting members of the media or destroying their equipment.
    Some 640 people were charged with entering a restricted federal building or its grounds. And another 75 were charged with entering a restricted area with a deadly weapon.
    Prosecutors in the office have been working with the FBI as well as prosecutors in various locations around the nation. The office said the individuals arrested come from nearly all 50 states.
    One person, 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt of California, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as she tried to breach a set of doors deep in the Capitol during the riot. Federal prosecutors later cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in Babbitt’s death.
    [Release Trump’s financial records to House, in accord with Jan. 6 ruling, congressional lawyers urge appeals court]
    According to a May estimate by the Architect of the Capitol, the attack caused about $1.5 million worth of damage to the building.
    About 165 individuals, the office said, have pleaded guilty to a variety of federal charges, from misdemeanors to felony obstruction.
    So far, 70 defendants have received some kind of sentence from a judge. Of those, 31 people were ordered jailed, and 18 were sentenced to home detention. The remaining 21 defendants were placed on probation.
    In early December, Robert Scott Palmer, 54, of Largo, Fla., received the longest prison sentence to date among those convicted in the attack. A U.S. District Court judge sentenced him to more than five years in prison.
    In October, Palmer pleaded guilty to resisting arrest and assaulting officers with a dangerous weapon. Prosecutors said Palmer broke into the Capitol building and, while inside, threw a wooden plank at police officers; then, they said, while he was on the front line of the riot, he sprayed police officers with a fire extinguisher and hurled the emptied extinguisher at the officers. No officers, prosecutors said, were injured.
    The FBI is continuing to identify suspects in the case and is collecting tips at fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence, 1-800-CALL-FBI (800-225-5324) or tips.fbi.gov.

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    Capitol rioters' tears, remorse don't spare them from jail
    By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN, COLLEEN LONG, JACQUES BILLEAUD and LINDSAY WHITEHURST
    Today

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Florida business owner Robert Palmer cheered on the violence at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 before he joined the fray. Screaming obscenities, he hurled a wooden plank and a fire extinguisher at police officers trying to ward off the mob.

    Nearly a year later, Palmer fought back tears when he faced the federal judge who sentenced him to more than five years in prison. He said he was “horrified, absolutely devastated” by what he had done.

    “I'm just so ashamed that I was a part of that,” Palmer told U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan on Dec. 17 before she gave him the longest prison term for any rioter so far.

    Judges are hearing tearful expressions of remorse — and a litany of excuses — from rioters paying a price for joining the Jan. 6 insurrection, even as others try to play down the deadly attack on a seat of American democracy.

    The Justice Department's investigation of the riot has now entered the punishment phase. So far, 71 people have been sentenced for riot-related crimes. They include a company CEOan architect, a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel, a gym owner, a former Houston police officer and a University of Kentucky student. Many rioters have said they lost jobs and friends after their mob of Donald Trump loyalists disrupted the certification of Joe Biden’s presidential victory.


    continues....


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  • mickeyrat said:


      
    Capitol rioters' tears, remorse don't spare them from jail
    By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN, COLLEEN LONG, JACQUES BILLEAUD and LINDSAY WHITEHURST
    Today

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Florida business owner Robert Palmer cheered on the violence at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 before he joined the fray. Screaming obscenities, he hurled a wooden plank and a fire extinguisher at police officers trying to ward off the mob.

    Nearly a year later, Palmer fought back tears when he faced the federal judge who sentenced him to more than five years in prison. He said he was “horrified, absolutely devastated” by what he had done.

    “I'm just so ashamed that I was a part of that,” Palmer told U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan on Dec. 17 before she gave him the longest prison term for any rioter so far.

    Judges are hearing tearful expressions of remorse — and a litany of excuses — from rioters paying a price for joining the Jan. 6 insurrection, even as others try to play down the deadly attack on a seat of American democracy.

    The Justice Department's investigation of the riot has now entered the punishment phase. So far, 71 people have been sentenced for riot-related crimes. They include a company CEOan architect, a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel, a gym owner, a former Houston police officer and a University of Kentucky student. Many rioters have said they lost jobs and friends after their mob of Donald Trump loyalists disrupted the certification of Joe Biden’s presidential victory.


    continues....


    Poor babies. They should be denied federal benefits and the right to vote. Fuck them.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,592
    mickeyrat said:
    Prosecutors break down charges, convictions for 725 arrested so far in Jan. 6 attack on U.S. Capitol  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/31/capitol-deadly-attack-insurrection-arrested-convicted/ 


     Prosecutors break down charges, convictions for 725 arrested so far in Jan. 6 attack on U.S. Capitol
    By Keith L. Alexander
    December 31 at 4:40 PM EST
    Federal prosecutors in the District have charged more than 725 individuals with various crimes in connection with the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection, when hundreds of rioters forced their way into the U.S. Capitol, the U.S. attorney’s office said Friday.
    As the country nears the first anniversary of the storming of the Capitol, the U.S. attorney’s office in the District, the largest office of federal prosecutors in the nation, released a breakdown of the arrests and convictions associated with the attack.
    [The Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol was neither a spontaneous act nor an isolated event]
    Of those arrested, 225 people were charged with assault or resisting arrest. More than 75 of those were charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon against police officers. The office said 140 police officers, including Capitol officers and members of the D.C. police department, were victimized during the attack.
    The office said about 10 individuals were charged with assaulting members of the media or destroying their equipment.
    Some 640 people were charged with entering a restricted federal building or its grounds. And another 75 were charged with entering a restricted area with a deadly weapon.
    Prosecutors in the office have been working with the FBI as well as prosecutors in various locations around the nation. The office said the individuals arrested come from nearly all 50 states.
    One person, 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt of California, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as she tried to breach a set of doors deep in the Capitol during the riot. Federal prosecutors later cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in Babbitt’s death.
    [Release Trump’s financial records to House, in accord with Jan. 6 ruling, congressional lawyers urge appeals court]
    According to a May estimate by the Architect of the Capitol, the attack caused about $1.5 million worth of damage to the building.
    About 165 individuals, the office said, have pleaded guilty to a variety of federal charges, from misdemeanors to felony obstruction.
    So far, 70 defendants have received some kind of sentence from a judge. Of those, 31 people were ordered jailed, and 18 were sentenced to home detention. The remaining 21 defendants were placed on probation.
    In early December, Robert Scott Palmer, 54, of Largo, Fla., received the longest prison sentence to date among those convicted in the attack. A U.S. District Court judge sentenced him to more than five years in prison.
    In October, Palmer pleaded guilty to resisting arrest and assaulting officers with a dangerous weapon. Prosecutors said Palmer broke into the Capitol building and, while inside, threw a wooden plank at police officers; then, they said, while he was on the front line of the riot, he sprayed police officers with a fire extinguisher and hurled the emptied extinguisher at the officers. No officers, prosecutors said, were injured.
    The FBI is continuing to identify suspects in the case and is collecting tips at fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence, 1-800-CALL-FBI (800-225-5324) or tips.fbi.gov.


    "In early December, Robert Scott Palmer, 54, of Largo, Fla., received the longest prison sentence to date among those convicted in the attack. A U.S. District Court judge sentenced him to more than five years in prison."

    Holy crap- I wonder if these people realize how easy they are getting off?  In times past, at least half of these people would have been shot or hung.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,936
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,129
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Prosecutors break down charges, convictions for 725 arrested so far in Jan. 6 attack on U.S. Capitol  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/31/capitol-deadly-attack-insurrection-arrested-convicted/ 


     Prosecutors break down charges, convictions for 725 arrested so far in Jan. 6 attack on U.S. Capitol
    By Keith L. Alexander
    December 31 at 4:40 PM EST
    Federal prosecutors in the District have charged more than 725 individuals with various crimes in connection with the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection, when hundreds of rioters forced their way into the U.S. Capitol, the U.S. attorney’s office said Friday.
    As the country nears the first anniversary of the storming of the Capitol, the U.S. attorney’s office in the District, the largest office of federal prosecutors in the nation, released a breakdown of the arrests and convictions associated with the attack.
    [The Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol was neither a spontaneous act nor an isolated event]
    Of those arrested, 225 people were charged with assault or resisting arrest. More than 75 of those were charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon against police officers. The office said 140 police officers, including Capitol officers and members of the D.C. police department, were victimized during the attack.
    The office said about 10 individuals were charged with assaulting members of the media or destroying their equipment.
    Some 640 people were charged with entering a restricted federal building or its grounds. And another 75 were charged with entering a restricted area with a deadly weapon.
    Prosecutors in the office have been working with the FBI as well as prosecutors in various locations around the nation. The office said the individuals arrested come from nearly all 50 states.
    One person, 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt of California, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as she tried to breach a set of doors deep in the Capitol during the riot. Federal prosecutors later cleared the officer of any wrongdoing in Babbitt’s death.
    [Release Trump’s financial records to House, in accord with Jan. 6 ruling, congressional lawyers urge appeals court]
    According to a May estimate by the Architect of the Capitol, the attack caused about $1.5 million worth of damage to the building.
    About 165 individuals, the office said, have pleaded guilty to a variety of federal charges, from misdemeanors to felony obstruction.
    So far, 70 defendants have received some kind of sentence from a judge. Of those, 31 people were ordered jailed, and 18 were sentenced to home detention. The remaining 21 defendants were placed on probation.
    In early December, Robert Scott Palmer, 54, of Largo, Fla., received the longest prison sentence to date among those convicted in the attack. A U.S. District Court judge sentenced him to more than five years in prison.
    In October, Palmer pleaded guilty to resisting arrest and assaulting officers with a dangerous weapon. Prosecutors said Palmer broke into the Capitol building and, while inside, threw a wooden plank at police officers; then, they said, while he was on the front line of the riot, he sprayed police officers with a fire extinguisher and hurled the emptied extinguisher at the officers. No officers, prosecutors said, were injured.
    The FBI is continuing to identify suspects in the case and is collecting tips at fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence, 1-800-CALL-FBI (800-225-5324) or tips.fbi.gov.


    "In early December, Robert Scott Palmer, 54, of Largo, Fla., received the longest prison sentence to date among those convicted in the attack. A U.S. District Court judge sentenced him to more than five years in prison."

    Holy crap- I wonder if these people realize how easy they are getting off?  In times past, at least half of these people would have been shot or hung.
    Agreed. John Brown would like a word.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

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  • Watch his video of when he was there.  I remember watching it being blown away.
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • If Ted Cruz, who also spoke that day calls it a terrorist attack, I believe him.
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