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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    KP_McMinn said:
    How dumb does the January 6 committee look now they have been exposed as liars? 
    Why did all of these people plead guilty?  And if I commit a crime on tape, does all the footage that shows me not committing a crime at another point offset that crime?  Asking just in case I rob a bank.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    I almost wonder if The Guardian is vying to be the new The Onion, lol:

    Republicans try to reframe January 6 as a sightseeing tour – will it work?


    Fox News host Tucker Carlson who said he hates Trump passionately said the January 6 attack was mostly peaceful chaos



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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,549

     

    Carlson comes up short on Jan. 6 bombshells 

    by Rebecca Beitsch and Emily Brooks - 03/12/23 8:00 AM ET
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    Fox News host Tucker Carlson promised never-before-seen footage of the Jan. 6 riot that would reveal new details and alter public perceptions of the Capitol breach. But in his first shows dedicated to the topic, he largely came up short in delivering smoking guns. 

    Carlson gained access to some 44,000 hours of the attack by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), a move that was opposed by former members of the Jan. 6 committee and alarmed Capitol Police who said it had remained unaired due to security concerns. 

    Carlson featured footage of Trump supporters milling about the Capitol, exploring the building after rioters had smashed windows and forced their way in. 

    “The video record does not support the claim that Jan. 6 was an insurrection. In fact, it demolishes that claim,” Carlson said on the opening night of his program. 


    continues....


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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    mickeyrat said:

     

    Carlson comes up short on Jan. 6 bombshells 

    by Rebecca Beitsch and Emily Brooks - 03/12/23 8:00 AM ET
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    Fox News host Tucker Carlson promised never-before-seen footage of the Jan. 6 riot that would reveal new details and alter public perceptions of the Capitol breach. But in his first shows dedicated to the topic, he largely came up short in delivering smoking guns. 

    Carlson gained access to some 44,000 hours of the attack by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), a move that was opposed by former members of the Jan. 6 committee and alarmed Capitol Police who said it had remained unaired due to security concerns. 

    Carlson featured footage of Trump supporters milling about the Capitol, exploring the building after rioters had smashed windows and forced their way in. 

    “The video record does not support the claim that Jan. 6 was an insurrection. In fact, it demolishes that claim,” Carlson said on the opening night of his program. 


    continues....



    Tucker Carlson followers are in serious need of an intervention.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,907
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:

     

    Carlson comes up short on Jan. 6 bombshells 

    by Rebecca Beitsch and Emily Brooks - 03/12/23 8:00 AM ET
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    Fox News host Tucker Carlson promised never-before-seen footage of the Jan. 6 riot that would reveal new details and alter public perceptions of the Capitol breach. But in his first shows dedicated to the topic, he largely came up short in delivering smoking guns. 

    Carlson gained access to some 44,000 hours of the attack by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), a move that was opposed by former members of the Jan. 6 committee and alarmed Capitol Police who said it had remained unaired due to security concerns. 

    Carlson featured footage of Trump supporters milling about the Capitol, exploring the building after rioters had smashed windows and forced their way in. 

    “The video record does not support the claim that Jan. 6 was an insurrection. In fact, it demolishes that claim,” Carlson said on the opening night of his program. 


    continues....



    Tucker Carlson followers are in serious need of an intervention.
    44,000 hours and he aired like 10 minutes of a footage. 

    womp
    womp
    www.myspace.com
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,083
    mickeyrat said:

     

    Carlson comes up short on Jan. 6 bombshells 

    by Rebecca Beitsch and Emily Brooks - 03/12/23 8:00 AM ET
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    Fox News host Tucker Carlson promised never-before-seen footage of the Jan. 6 riot that would reveal new details and alter public perceptions of the Capitol breach. But in his first shows dedicated to the topic, he largely came up short in delivering smoking guns. 

    Carlson gained access to some 44,000 hours of the attack by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), a move that was opposed by former members of the Jan. 6 committee and alarmed Capitol Police who said it had remained unaired due to security concerns. 

    Carlson featured footage of Trump supporters milling about the Capitol, exploring the building after rioters had smashed windows and forced their way in. 

    “The video record does not support the claim that Jan. 6 was an insurrection. In fact, it demolishes that claim,” Carlson said on the opening night of his program. 


    continues....


    Naturally in maga world it’s the opposite reaction. They’re excited for retrials. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,448
    mickeyrat said:

     

    Carlson comes up short on Jan. 6 bombshells 

    by Rebecca Beitsch and Emily Brooks - 03/12/23 8:00 AM ET
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    Fox News host Tucker Carlson promised never-before-seen footage of the Jan. 6 riot that would reveal new details and alter public perceptions of the Capitol breach. But in his first shows dedicated to the topic, he largely came up short in delivering smoking guns. 

    Carlson gained access to some 44,000 hours of the attack by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), a move that was opposed by former members of the Jan. 6 committee and alarmed Capitol Police who said it had remained unaired due to security concerns. 

    Carlson featured footage of Trump supporters milling about the Capitol, exploring the building after rioters had smashed windows and forced their way in. 

    “The video record does not support the claim that Jan. 6 was an insurrection. In fact, it demolishes that claim,” Carlson said on the opening night of his program. 


    continues....


    Naturally in maga world it’s the opposite reaction. They’re excited for retrials. 
    People have questions based on the footage Tucker released which is only natural... it's not as if Tucker has ulterior motives or has ever steered his audience wrong before. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,549
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,549

     
    Former Air Force officer gets prison term for Capitol attack
    By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN
    Today

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A retired Air Force officer who stormed the U.S. Capitol dressed in combat gear and carried zip-tie handcuffs into the Senate gallery was sentenced on Friday to two years in prison.

    Larry Brock joined other rioters on the Senate floor only minutes after then-Vice President Mike Pence, senators and their staff evacuated the chamber to escape the mob attacking the building on Jan. 6, 2021.

    U.S. District Judge John Bates also sentenced Brock to two years of supervised release after his prison term and ordered him to perform 100 hours of community service. Brock, who declined to speak in court before the judge imposed his sentence, remains free until he must report to prison at a date to be determined.

    Prosecutors had recommended a sentence of five years in prison followed by three years of supervised release.

    Bates convicted Brock in November after a trial without a jury. The judge said Brock expressed "very troubling" and violent rhetoric before the Jan. 6 riot. The judge read aloud several of Brock's social media postings calling it “really pretty astounding” that a former high-ranking military officer expressed those words.

    “That's chilling stuff, and it does reflect a purpose to stop the certification of the election,” Bates said.

    Brock believed baseless conspiracy theories that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Republican incumbent Donald Trump, prosecutors said.

    “When we get to the bottom of this conspiracy we need to execute the traitors that are trying to steal the election, and that includes the leaders of the media and social media aiding and abetting the coup plotters," Brock wrote in a Nov. 9. 2020, post on Facebook.

    Here's the latest for Friday March 17th: US to sell Tomahawk missiles to Australia; Storms cause landslide in Southern California; 10 charged in death of Black man in Virginia mental hospital; Treasury Secretary assures US banking system is safe.

    In a Facebook message to another user on Christmas Eve, Brock outlined what he called a “plan of action if Congress fails to act” on Jan. 6. One of the “main tasks” in his plan was to “seize all Democratic politicians and Biden key staff and select Republicans.”

    "Begin interrogations using measures we used on al-Qaida to gain evidence on the coup," he wrote.

    Brock, a Texas native who lived in the Dallas area, flew combat missions in Afghanistan before retiring from the Air Force as a lieutenant colonel.

    His “plan of action” also called for a “general pardon for all crimes up to and including murder of those restoring the Constitution and putting down the Democratic Insurrection.”

    “Do not kill LEO unless necessary,” he wrote, apparently referring to law enforcement officers.

    Brock didn’t engage in any violence on Jan. 6, but prosecutors said his behavior was “disturbingly premediated.”

    “Had the Senate Gallery not been emptied minutes before, Brock could have come face-to-face with the politicians he had fantasized about seizing and interrogating,” they wrote in a court filing.

    Bates convicted Brock of all six counts in his indictment, including obstruction of an official proceeding, the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress for certifying President Joe Biden's electoral victory, The obstruction charge is a felony; the other five counts are misdemeanors.

    Defense attorney Charles Burnham said it is “inconceivable that (Brock) was motivated by anything other than genuine concern for democracy.”

    “If Mr. Brock was sincerely motivated by high ideals, it significantly reduces his culpability even if the Court should privately disagree with his view,” Burnham wrote in a court filing.

    Brock attended the “Stop the Steal” rally where Trump addressed a crowd of supporters on Jan. 6. He was wearing a helmet and tactical vest when he joined the mob that attacked the Capitol. He entered the building through Senate wing doors roughly 12 minutes after other rioters initially breached them.

    On the floor near the East Rotunda stairs, Brock picked up a discarded pair of zip-tie handcuffs. He held the “flex-cuffs” in his right hand in the Senate gallery. On the Senate floor, he examined paperwork on senators' desks.

    “This was consistent with Brock’s stated overall mission on January 6, which was intelligence gathering to stop the certification and the transfer of power,” prosecutors wrote.

    Brock graduated from the Air Force Academy in 1989. He was on active duty until 1998 and served in the reserves until 2014.

    In a letter to the judge, a retired Air Force major general praised Brock's military service. The major general, whose name was redacted from public court filings, said Brock risked his life to protect U.S. forces from a Taliban attack, flying below mountain peaks into a valley “saturated with enemy forces.”

    "The result thwarted enemy advances on U.S. personnel, saved U.S. lives and defused an ever-escalating situation for the forces at that remote base in Afghanistan,” the major general wrote.

    Brock was employed as a commercial airline pilot on Jan. 6. His lawyer said the Federal Aviation Administration revoked Brock's licenses after his January 2021 arrest.

    Approximately 1,000 people have been charged with federal crimes related to the Jan. 6 riot. More than 400 of them have been sentenced, with over half getting terms of imprisonment ranging from seven days to 10 years.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    mickeyrat said:

     
    Former Air Force officer gets prison term for Capitol attack
    By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN
    Today

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A retired Air Force officer who stormed the U.S. Capitol dressed in combat gear and carried zip-tie handcuffs into the Senate gallery was sentenced on Friday to two years in prison.

    Larry Brock joined other rioters on the Senate floor only minutes after then-Vice President Mike Pence, senators and their staff evacuated the chamber to escape the mob attacking the building on Jan. 6, 2021.

    U.S. District Judge John Bates also sentenced Brock to two years of supervised release after his prison term and ordered him to perform 100 hours of community service. Brock, who declined to speak in court before the judge imposed his sentence, remains free until he must report to prison at a date to be determined.

    Prosecutors had recommended a sentence of five years in prison followed by three years of supervised release.

    Bates convicted Brock in November after a trial without a jury. The judge said Brock expressed "very troubling" and violent rhetoric before the Jan. 6 riot. The judge read aloud several of Brock's social media postings calling it “really pretty astounding” that a former high-ranking military officer expressed those words.

    “That's chilling stuff, and it does reflect a purpose to stop the certification of the election,” Bates said.

    Brock believed baseless conspiracy theories that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Republican incumbent Donald Trump, prosecutors said.

    “When we get to the bottom of this conspiracy we need to execute the traitors that are trying to steal the election, and that includes the leaders of the media and social media aiding and abetting the coup plotters," Brock wrote in a Nov. 9. 2020, post on Facebook.

    Here's the latest for Friday March 17th: US to sell Tomahawk missiles to Australia; Storms cause landslide in Southern California; 10 charged in death of Black man in Virginia mental hospital; Treasury Secretary assures US banking system is safe.

    In a Facebook message to another user on Christmas Eve, Brock outlined what he called a “plan of action if Congress fails to act” on Jan. 6. One of the “main tasks” in his plan was to “seize all Democratic politicians and Biden key staff and select Republicans.”

    "Begin interrogations using measures we used on al-Qaida to gain evidence on the coup," he wrote.

    Brock, a Texas native who lived in the Dallas area, flew combat missions in Afghanistan before retiring from the Air Force as a lieutenant colonel.

    His “plan of action” also called for a “general pardon for all crimes up to and including murder of those restoring the Constitution and putting down the Democratic Insurrection.”

    “Do not kill LEO unless necessary,” he wrote, apparently referring to law enforcement officers.

    Brock didn’t engage in any violence on Jan. 6, but prosecutors said his behavior was “disturbingly premediated.”

    “Had the Senate Gallery not been emptied minutes before, Brock could have come face-to-face with the politicians he had fantasized about seizing and interrogating,” they wrote in a court filing.

    Bates convicted Brock of all six counts in his indictment, including obstruction of an official proceeding, the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress for certifying President Joe Biden's electoral victory, The obstruction charge is a felony; the other five counts are misdemeanors.

    Defense attorney Charles Burnham said it is “inconceivable that (Brock) was motivated by anything other than genuine concern for democracy.”

    “If Mr. Brock was sincerely motivated by high ideals, it significantly reduces his culpability even if the Court should privately disagree with his view,” Burnham wrote in a court filing.

    Brock attended the “Stop the Steal” rally where Trump addressed a crowd of supporters on Jan. 6. He was wearing a helmet and tactical vest when he joined the mob that attacked the Capitol. He entered the building through Senate wing doors roughly 12 minutes after other rioters initially breached them.

    On the floor near the East Rotunda stairs, Brock picked up a discarded pair of zip-tie handcuffs. He held the “flex-cuffs” in his right hand in the Senate gallery. On the Senate floor, he examined paperwork on senators' desks.

    “This was consistent with Brock’s stated overall mission on January 6, which was intelligence gathering to stop the certification and the transfer of power,” prosecutors wrote.

    Brock graduated from the Air Force Academy in 1989. He was on active duty until 1998 and served in the reserves until 2014.

    In a letter to the judge, a retired Air Force major general praised Brock's military service. The major general, whose name was redacted from public court filings, said Brock risked his life to protect U.S. forces from a Taliban attack, flying below mountain peaks into a valley “saturated with enemy forces.”

    "The result thwarted enemy advances on U.S. personnel, saved U.S. lives and defused an ever-escalating situation for the forces at that remote base in Afghanistan,” the major general wrote.

    Brock was employed as a commercial airline pilot on Jan. 6. His lawyer said the Federal Aviation Administration revoked Brock's licenses after his January 2021 arrest.

    Approximately 1,000 people have been charged with federal crimes related to the Jan. 6 riot. More than 400 of them have been sentenced, with over half getting terms of imprisonment ranging from seven days to 10 years.


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,518
    mickeyrat said:

     
    Former Air Force officer gets prison term for Capitol attack
    By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN
    Today

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A retired Air Force officer who stormed the U.S. Capitol dressed in combat gear and carried zip-tie handcuffs into the Senate gallery was sentenced on Friday to two years in prison.

    Larry Brock joined other rioters on the Senate floor only minutes after then-Vice President Mike Pence, senators and their staff evacuated the chamber to escape the mob attacking the building on Jan. 6, 2021.

    U.S. District Judge John Bates also sentenced Brock to two years of supervised release after his prison term and ordered him to perform 100 hours of community service. Brock, who declined to speak in court before the judge imposed his sentence, remains free until he must report to prison at a date to be determined.

    Prosecutors had recommended a sentence of five years in prison followed by three years of supervised release.

    Bates convicted Brock in November after a trial without a jury. The judge said Brock expressed "very troubling" and violent rhetoric before the Jan. 6 riot. The judge read aloud several of Brock's social media postings calling it “really pretty astounding” that a former high-ranking military officer expressed those words.

    “That's chilling stuff, and it does reflect a purpose to stop the certification of the election,” Bates said.

    Brock believed baseless conspiracy theories that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from Republican incumbent Donald Trump, prosecutors said.

    “When we get to the bottom of this conspiracy we need to execute the traitors that are trying to steal the election, and that includes the leaders of the media and social media aiding and abetting the coup plotters," Brock wrote in a Nov. 9. 2020, post on Facebook.

    Here's the latest for Friday March 17th: US to sell Tomahawk missiles to Australia; Storms cause landslide in Southern California; 10 charged in death of Black man in Virginia mental hospital; Treasury Secretary assures US banking system is safe.

    In a Facebook message to another user on Christmas Eve, Brock outlined what he called a “plan of action if Congress fails to act” on Jan. 6. One of the “main tasks” in his plan was to “seize all Democratic politicians and Biden key staff and select Republicans.”

    "Begin interrogations using measures we used on al-Qaida to gain evidence on the coup," he wrote.

    Brock, a Texas native who lived in the Dallas area, flew combat missions in Afghanistan before retiring from the Air Force as a lieutenant colonel.

    His “plan of action” also called for a “general pardon for all crimes up to and including murder of those restoring the Constitution and putting down the Democratic Insurrection.”

    “Do not kill LEO unless necessary,” he wrote, apparently referring to law enforcement officers.

    Brock didn’t engage in any violence on Jan. 6, but prosecutors said his behavior was “disturbingly premediated.”

    “Had the Senate Gallery not been emptied minutes before, Brock could have come face-to-face with the politicians he had fantasized about seizing and interrogating,” they wrote in a court filing.

    Bates convicted Brock of all six counts in his indictment, including obstruction of an official proceeding, the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress for certifying President Joe Biden's electoral victory, The obstruction charge is a felony; the other five counts are misdemeanors.

    Defense attorney Charles Burnham said it is “inconceivable that (Brock) was motivated by anything other than genuine concern for democracy.”

    “If Mr. Brock was sincerely motivated by high ideals, it significantly reduces his culpability even if the Court should privately disagree with his view,” Burnham wrote in a court filing.

    Brock attended the “Stop the Steal” rally where Trump addressed a crowd of supporters on Jan. 6. He was wearing a helmet and tactical vest when he joined the mob that attacked the Capitol. He entered the building through Senate wing doors roughly 12 minutes after other rioters initially breached them.

    On the floor near the East Rotunda stairs, Brock picked up a discarded pair of zip-tie handcuffs. He held the “flex-cuffs” in his right hand in the Senate gallery. On the Senate floor, he examined paperwork on senators' desks.

    “This was consistent with Brock’s stated overall mission on January 6, which was intelligence gathering to stop the certification and the transfer of power,” prosecutors wrote.

    Brock graduated from the Air Force Academy in 1989. He was on active duty until 1998 and served in the reserves until 2014.

    In a letter to the judge, a retired Air Force major general praised Brock's military service. The major general, whose name was redacted from public court filings, said Brock risked his life to protect U.S. forces from a Taliban attack, flying below mountain peaks into a valley “saturated with enemy forces.”

    "The result thwarted enemy advances on U.S. personnel, saved U.S. lives and defused an ever-escalating situation for the forces at that remote base in Afghanistan,” the major general wrote.

    Brock was employed as a commercial airline pilot on Jan. 6. His lawyer said the Federal Aviation Administration revoked Brock's licenses after his January 2021 arrest.

    Approximately 1,000 people have been charged with federal crimes related to the Jan. 6 riot. More than 400 of them have been sentenced, with over half getting terms of imprisonment ranging from seven days to 10 years.


    Good I hope he’s life is in ruins from
    this go ahead go get a job with this on your record smuck! Throw away your life for a two bit con man 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,518
    Where’s borat dude defending this patriot? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • RYMERYME Posts: 1,904
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    RYME said:
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 
    As always,  do I believe her or my lying eyes? You can show me hours of footage of peace.  Are you saying the footage of violence didn't happen? I didn't see a cop getting his eyes gouged out? I didn't see windows being broken and protesters entering? I didn't see a barricaded door with cops on the other side warning them not to enter, then watch the glass break and someone enters? I didn't see a cop screaming as he is being crushed in a doir? Did that not happen now that we see Tucker's footage?
  • mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 
    As always,  do I believe her or my lying eyes? You can show me hours of footage of peace.  Are you saying the footage of violence didn't happen? I didn't see a cop getting his eyes gouged out? I didn't see windows being broken and protesters entering? I didn't see a barricaded door with cops on the other side warning them not to enter, then watch the glass break and someone enters? I didn't see a cop screaming as he is being crushed in a doir? Did that not happen now that we see Tucker's footage?
    don't let that dude gaslight you.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    RYME said:
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 
    Are these fake?











  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,518
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 
    Are these fake?











    They seem peaceful to me 🤣🤣🤣
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    I always bring my Demartini bat to peaceful demonstrations and to church.
  • mrussel1 said:
    I always bring my Demartini bat to peaceful demonstrations and to church.
    and that trump flag, you know i always keep that thang on me.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 
    Are these fake?












    AKA "Fun photos from our fabulous vacation the the Nations Capitol on the day they announced it was going to be like a Disney Adventure ride!"  Whoo hoo! 
    A good time was had by all (except for the dead, injured and traumatized, but they were in the minority so no biggie, right?)
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,518
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 
    Are these fake?












    AKA "Fun photos from our fabulous vacation the the Nations Capitol on the day they announced it was going to be like a Disney Adventure ride!"  Whoo hoo! 
    A good time was had by all (except for the dead, injured and traumatized, but they were in the minority so no biggie, right?)
    I’m just pissed that when I went to DC with my family on vacation weekend we didn’t get to brake windows kick cops spit on them shower them with Urine and off course my favorite to have moved my bowels in a senator’s office! 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,016
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 
    Are these fake?












    AKA "Fun photos from our fabulous vacation the the Nations Capitol on the day they announced it was going to be like a Disney Adventure ride!"  Whoo hoo! 
    A good time was had by all (except for the dead, injured and traumatized, but they were in the minority so no biggie, right?)
    I’m just pissed that when I went to DC with my family on vacation weekend we didn’t get to brake windows kick cops spit on them shower them with Urine and off course my favorite to have moved my bowels in a senator’s office! 

    It just ain't fair, is it!!!
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    In case you’d forgotten how much of a douche bag POOTWH is. 

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,083
    RYME said:
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 

    I hadn't really heard anything from her for years until Covid, then it looked like she really went off the deep end with a lot of the delusional, conspiratorial, misinformation stuff. To insert 'progressive lefty democrat' here comes across as an attempt to try and say even these liberals are "seeing the light". Nope.
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,143
    RYME said:
    https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/dear-conservatives-i-am-sorry
    It's a lengthy essay/Worth a read.
    Naomi Wolf is a lifelong progressive lefty Democrat ect.  Had this to say recently. 
    After wasting too much of my life reading that garbage, here are my thoughts:

    1. Idiots (or nefarious smart people attempting to persuade idiots) can apply mental gymnastics to anything, to reach their own desired conclusions - including that people with guns and spears came for a peaceful (yet illegal) tour of the premises
    2. Idiots (or nefarious smart people attempting to persuade idiots) often ignore context - like the difference between security in 1932, vs. security in 2023 - to make their case
    3. Idiots (or nefarious smart people attempting to persuade idiots) are shockingly easily persuaded by idiots (or nefarious smart people attempting to persuade idiots), like Tucker Carlson, in spite of what they have seen and heard first-hand. They can't recognize being played by their own brand.
    4. Idiots (or nefarious smart people attempting to persuade idiots) will take one occurrence and extrapolate that every other scenario is the same.
    5. Idiots (or nefarious smart people attempting to persuade idiots) should be ignored.
    6. Those who either aren't idiots, and/or care about truth over being correct, can see through the words these (intentional or not) propagandists produce with minimal effort, should they choose to put that effort in.
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  • RYMERYME Posts: 1,904
    I haven't made a comment here in 2 years. 
    See, one post about one person who recently wrote an essay surrounding Jan 6, that goes against the grain here.  And look at the response. 
    Naomi Wolf,  has immediately been dismissed.
    I've been called an idiot and a gas lighter for posting her essay.
    Progressive lefty democrat was indeed the tribe she identified with until recently, when she started to question herself about what she thought she knew.  Naomi Wolf is just one person, who started to do some independent research and analysis.  And it's going on a lot these days.  And you can dismiss it all you want.  That's fine.   
    "Reading that garbage "  says it all and makes it obvious, 
    (you didn't read the whole thing)
     That she, and no one by your standards is allowed to explore and come to different conclusions, and form different options as stones are looked under one at a time, over time, as time goes on.



  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,668
    RYME said:
    I haven't made a comment here in 2 years. 
    See, one post about one person who recently wrote an essay surrounding Jan 6, that goes against the grain here.  And look at the response. 
    Naomi Wolf,  has immediately been dismissed.
    I've been called an idiot and a gas lighter for posting her essay.
    Progressive lefty democrat was indeed the tribe she identified with until recently, when she started to question herself about what she thought she knew.  Naomi Wolf is just one person, who started to do some independent research and analysis.  And it's going on a lot these days.  And you can dismiss it all you want.  That's fine.   
    "Reading that garbage "  says it all and makes it obvious, 
    (you didn't read the whole thing)
     That she, and no one by your standards is allowed to explore and come to different conclusions, and form different options as stones are looked under one at a time, over time, as time goes on.



    I read it, but it's not a compelling argument to re-assess that day.  It doesn't matter if Pelosi and McConnell were responsible for Capital security.  What relevance does that have to do with Tucker trying to re-write the history? Second, the police have said from the outset that once they saw they were overwhelmed, they only tried to de-escalate.  That's why Chansley wasn't arrested that day.  That's a pretty rational strategy by the Capital Police. 

    And at least answer my point.  How does hours of peaceful footage offset the violence we all so clearly saw?  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,549

     
    Prosecutors rest in sedition case against Proud Boys leaders
    MICHAEL KUNZELMAN
    Today

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal prosecutors on Monday rested their seditious conspiracy case against former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio and four lieutenants charged with plotting to stop the peaceful transfer of presidential power from Donald Trump to Joe Biden after the 2020 election.

    Jurors will hear testimony by defense witnesses before they begin deliberating in one of the most serious cases to come out of the Justice Department’s massive investigation of the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection.

    Defense attorneys have argued there is no evidence that Proud Boys plotted to attack the Capitol and stop Congress from certifying Biden’s electoral victory. Norm Pattis, an attorney for former Proud Boys leader Joseph Biggs, said the Proud Boys had no plan, “no understanding” and no “implicit conspiracy” for Jan. 6.

    “They did not come to your home to cause a riot,” Pattis told jurors on Monday.

    For over two months, the jury in Washington's federal court has heard over 30 days of testimony by more than 20 prosecution witnesses, including two former Proud Boys members who are cooperating with the government in the hopes of getting lighter sentences.

    Tarrio, a Miami resident who served as national chairman of the Proud Boys, and the other Proud Boys could face up to 20 years in prison if convicted of seditious conspiracy.

    The case comes on the heels of the seditious conspiracy convictions of Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes and a Florida leader of the antigovernment group. Four other Oath Keepers were convicted of seditious conspiracy in January. Rhodes and other Oath Keepers are scheduled to be sentenced in May.

    Also on trial with Tarrio and Biggs are Ethan Nordean, Zachary Rehl and Dominic Pezzola. Nordean, of Auburn, Washington, was a Proud Boys chapter leader. Biggs, of Ormond Beach, Florida, was a self-described Proud Boys organizer. Rehl was president of the Proud Boys chapter in Philadelphia. Pezzola was a Proud Boys member from Rochester, New York.

    Most of the defendants aren’t accused of engaging in violence themselves. Tarrio wasn’t even at the Capitol on Jan. 6. Police arrested him in Washington, D.C., on separate charges two days before the riot, and he heeded a judge’s order to leave the nation’s capital.

    “It’s too hard to blame Trump,” Sabino Jauregui, one of Tarrio’s lawyers, said during the trial's opening statements. “It’s easier to blame Enrique as the face of the Proud Boys.”

    Prosecutors have employed an unusual theory that Proud Boys leaders mobilized a handpicked group of foot soldiers — or “tools” — to supply the force necessary to carry out their plot by overwhelming police and breaching barricades. Defense attorneys have dismissed the government’s “tools” theory as a novel, flawed concept with no legal foundation.

    Jurors have seen hundreds of messages that Tarrio and the Proud Boys privately exchanged on the Telegram platform and publicly on social media before, during and after the Jan. 6 attack. The messages show how the Proud Boys became increasingly agitated as Trump's legal challenges failed in the weeks leading up to Jan. 6. The messages also show the Proud Boys celebrating the attack on the Capitol and their role in it.

    In one exchange shown to jurors, Tarrio urged his fellow extremists to stay at the Capitol on Jan. 6.

    “Make no mistake,” he wrote. “We did this.”

    That evening, Rehl's mom asked if he was OK.

    “I'm ok!” Rehl replied. “Seems like our raid of the capital set off a chain reaction of events throughout the country. i’m so (expletive) proud."

    The Proud Boys trial has lasted significantly longer than the judge and attorneys expected when jury selection began in December. The proceedings have been bogged down by bickering. Defense lawyers have routinely sparred with U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly during breaks in testimony and repeatedly asked for him to declare a mistrial.

    Two onetime Proud Boys members, Matthew Greene and Jeremy Bertino, were among the key witnesses for prosecutors.

    Greene testified in January that Proud Boys members were expecting a “civil war” after the 2020 election. Bertino testified last month that the Proud Boys saw themselves as “the tip of the spear" and plotted to keep Biden out of the White House because they wanted to “save the country” from what they feared would be a tyrannical government.

    Greene and Bertino said they didn't know of any specific plan to storm the Capitol. Greene said group leaders celebrated the attack on Jan. 6 but didn’t explicitly encourage members to use force.

    “My expectation was, if there was violence started, you should not back down,” Greene testified.

    Bertino, of North Carolina, is the only Proud Boys member who has pleaded guilty to a seditious conspiracy charge. Greene, of Syracuse, New York, pleaded guilty to conspiring to obstruct the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress for certifying the Electoral College vote.

    ___

    Follow the AP’s coverage of the Capitol riot at https://apnews.com/hub/capitol-siege.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    Juries typically convict people accused of tourist visits, right?

    CNN — 

    Six people affiliated with the Oath Keepers, a far-right militia, were convicted Monday of various charges related to the January 6, 2021, US Capitol insurrection.

    Four of the defendants were found guilty on all of the charges they faced, including conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, conspiracy to prevent a member of congress from doing their duty, destruction of government property and civil disorder.

    The high-level convictions for four defendants is another significant win for the Justice Department, which has worked for years to bring consequences against people who they say plotted for violence at the Capitol that day – the largest criminal investigation in the department’s history – and comes as some conservatives continue to promote the false narrative the riots were peaceful.

    Sandra Parker, Laura Steele, Connie Meggs and William Isaacs were accused of entering the Capitol during the riot and attempting to make their way to the Senate chamber before being deterred by pepper spray and police officers in the building. 

    Continues 

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/20/politics/oath-keepers-proud-boys/index.html

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