Opioid Addiction in the US, Heroin and Oxys
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This season of Goliath deals with opioids. Got someone in the FDA who ensured approval of meds known to be addictive in exchange for handsome payments.
I wonder how close to the truth that is.0 -
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100K deaths in a year. Holy cow.
Fentanyl seems to be the leading cause of this. I still ask why you would want to kill off your buyers by using that stuff?
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-11-17/us-overdose-deaths-topped-100-000-in-one-year-officials-say
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Jury holds pharmacies responsible for role in opioid crisisBy JOHN SEEWER1 hour ago
CLEVELAND (AP) — CVS, Walgreens and Walmart pharmacies recklessly distributed massive amounts of pain pills in two Ohio counties, a federal jury said Tuesday in a verdict that could set the tone for U.S. city and county governments that want to hold pharmacies accountable for their roles in the opioid crisis.
Lake and Trumbull counties blamed the three chain pharmacies for not stopping the flood of pills that caused hundreds of overdose deaths and cost each of the two counties about $1 billion, their attorney said.
How much the pharmacies must pay in damages will be decided in the spring by a federal judge.
It was the first time pharmacy companies had completed a trial to defend themselves in a drug crisis that has killed a half-million Americans over the past two decades.
The counties were able to convince the jury that the pharmacies played an outsized role in creating a public nuisance in the way they dispensed pain medication into their communities.
“The law requires pharmacies to be diligent in dealing drugs. This case should be a wake-up call that failure will not be accepted,” said Mark Lanier, an attorney for the counties.
“The jury sounded a bell that should be heard through all pharmacies in America,” Lanier said.
Attorneys for the three pharmacy chains maintained they had policies to stem the flow of pills when their pharmacists had any concerns and would notify authorities about suspicious orders from doctors. They also said it was the doctors who controlled how many pills were being prescribed for legitimate medical needs.
Spokespeople for CVSHealth and Walgreen Co. said the companies disagree with the verdict and will appeal.
“As plaintiffs’ own experts testified, many factors have contributed to the opioid abuse issue, and solving this problem will require involvement from all stakeholders in our health care system and all members of our community," CVS spokesperson Mike DeAngelis said in a statement.
Walgreen spokesperson Fraser Engerman said the company believes the court erred “in allowing the case to go before a jury on a flawed legal theory that is inconsistent with Ohio law."
“As we have said throughout this process, we never manufactured or marketed opioids nor did we distribute them to the ‘pill mills’ and internet pharmacies that fueled this crisis,” Engerman said in a statement. “The plaintiffs’ attempt to resolve the opioid crisis with an unprecedented expansion of public nuisance law is misguided and unsustainable.”
Two other chains — Rite Aid and Giant Eagle — already had settled lawsuits with the two Ohio counties.
Lanier said during the trial that the pharmacies were attempting to blame everyone but themselves.
The opioid crisis has overwhelmed courts, social services agencies and law enforcement in Ohio’s blue-collar corner east of Cleveland, leaving behind heartbroken families and babies born to addicted mothers, Lanier told jurors.
Roughly 80 million prescription painkillers were dispensed in Trumbull County alone between 2012 and 2016 — equivalent to 400 for every resident.
In Lake County, some 61 million pills were distributed during that period.
The rise in physicians prescribing pain medications such as oxycodone and hydrocodone came at a time when medical groups began recognizing that patients have the right to be treated for pain, Kaspar Stoffelmayr, an attorney for Walgreens, said at the opening of the trial.
The problem, he said, was that “pharmaceutical manufacturers tricked doctors into writing way too many pills.”
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Seriously worth watching.mickeyrat said:new series on hulu called Dopesick.Michael Keaton is one of the regulars'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Seriously worth watching.mickeyrat said:new series on hulu called Dopesick.Michael Keaton is one of the regularsnow that's its finished going to binge watch straight through....so very well done.
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I knew they were trying for this and did not think it would get a cent from the pharmacies.mickeyrat said:Jury holds pharmacies responsible for role in opioid crisisBy JOHN SEEWER1 hour agoCLEVELAND (AP) — CVS, Walgreens and Walmart pharmacies recklessly distributed massive amounts of pain pills in two Ohio counties, a federal jury said Tuesday in a verdict that could set the tone for U.S. city and county governments that want to hold pharmacies accountable for their roles in the opioid crisis.
Lake and Trumbull counties blamed the three chain pharmacies for not stopping the flood of pills that caused hundreds of overdose deaths and cost each of the two counties about $1 billion, their attorney said.
How much the pharmacies must pay in damages will be decided in the spring by a federal judge.
It was the first time pharmacy companies had completed a trial to defend themselves in a drug crisis that has killed a half-million Americans over the past two decades.
The counties were able to convince the jury that the pharmacies played an outsized role in creating a public nuisance in the way they dispensed pain medication into their communities.
“The law requires pharmacies to be diligent in dealing drugs. This case should be a wake-up call that failure will not be accepted,” said Mark Lanier, an attorney for the counties.
“The jury sounded a bell that should be heard through all pharmacies in America,” Lanier said.
Attorneys for the three pharmacy chains maintained they had policies to stem the flow of pills when their pharmacists had any concerns and would notify authorities about suspicious orders from doctors. They also said it was the doctors who controlled how many pills were being prescribed for legitimate medical needs.
Spokespeople for CVSHealth and Walgreen Co. said the companies disagree with the verdict and will appeal.
“As plaintiffs’ own experts testified, many factors have contributed to the opioid abuse issue, and solving this problem will require involvement from all stakeholders in our health care system and all members of our community," CVS spokesperson Mike DeAngelis said in a statement.
Walgreen spokesperson Fraser Engerman said the company believes the court erred “in allowing the case to go before a jury on a flawed legal theory that is inconsistent with Ohio law."
“As we have said throughout this process, we never manufactured or marketed opioids nor did we distribute them to the ‘pill mills’ and internet pharmacies that fueled this crisis,” Engerman said in a statement. “The plaintiffs’ attempt to resolve the opioid crisis with an unprecedented expansion of public nuisance law is misguided and unsustainable.”
Two other chains — Rite Aid and Giant Eagle — already had settled lawsuits with the two Ohio counties.
Lanier said during the trial that the pharmacies were attempting to blame everyone but themselves.
The opioid crisis has overwhelmed courts, social services agencies and law enforcement in Ohio’s blue-collar corner east of Cleveland, leaving behind heartbroken families and babies born to addicted mothers, Lanier told jurors.
Roughly 80 million prescription painkillers were dispensed in Trumbull County alone between 2012 and 2016 — equivalent to 400 for every resident.
In Lake County, some 61 million pills were distributed during that period.
The rise in physicians prescribing pain medications such as oxycodone and hydrocodone came at a time when medical groups began recognizing that patients have the right to be treated for pain, Kaspar Stoffelmayr, an attorney for Walgreens, said at the opening of the trial.
The problem, he said, was that “pharmaceutical manufacturers tricked doctors into writing way too many pills.”
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tempo_n_groove said:
I knew they were trying for this and did not think it would get a cent from the pharmacies.mickeyrat said:Jury holds pharmacies responsible for role in opioid crisisBy JOHN SEEWER1 hour agoCLEVELAND (AP) — CVS, Walgreens and Walmart pharmacies recklessly distributed massive amounts of pain pills in two Ohio counties, a federal jury said Tuesday in a verdict that could set the tone for U.S. city and county governments that want to hold pharmacies accountable for their roles in the opioid crisis.
Lake and Trumbull counties blamed the three chain pharmacies for not stopping the flood of pills that caused hundreds of overdose deaths and cost each of the two counties about $1 billion, their attorney said.
How much the pharmacies must pay in damages will be decided in the spring by a federal judge.
It was the first time pharmacy companies had completed a trial to defend themselves in a drug crisis that has killed a half-million Americans over the past two decades.
The counties were able to convince the jury that the pharmacies played an outsized role in creating a public nuisance in the way they dispensed pain medication into their communities.
“The law requires pharmacies to be diligent in dealing drugs. This case should be a wake-up call that failure will not be accepted,” said Mark Lanier, an attorney for the counties.
“The jury sounded a bell that should be heard through all pharmacies in America,” Lanier said.
Attorneys for the three pharmacy chains maintained they had policies to stem the flow of pills when their pharmacists had any concerns and would notify authorities about suspicious orders from doctors. They also said it was the doctors who controlled how many pills were being prescribed for legitimate medical needs.
Spokespeople for CVSHealth and Walgreen Co. said the companies disagree with the verdict and will appeal.
“As plaintiffs’ own experts testified, many factors have contributed to the opioid abuse issue, and solving this problem will require involvement from all stakeholders in our health care system and all members of our community," CVS spokesperson Mike DeAngelis said in a statement.
Walgreen spokesperson Fraser Engerman said the company believes the court erred “in allowing the case to go before a jury on a flawed legal theory that is inconsistent with Ohio law."
“As we have said throughout this process, we never manufactured or marketed opioids nor did we distribute them to the ‘pill mills’ and internet pharmacies that fueled this crisis,” Engerman said in a statement. “The plaintiffs’ attempt to resolve the opioid crisis with an unprecedented expansion of public nuisance law is misguided and unsustainable.”
Two other chains — Rite Aid and Giant Eagle — already had settled lawsuits with the two Ohio counties.
Lanier said during the trial that the pharmacies were attempting to blame everyone but themselves.
The opioid crisis has overwhelmed courts, social services agencies and law enforcement in Ohio’s blue-collar corner east of Cleveland, leaving behind heartbroken families and babies born to addicted mothers, Lanier told jurors.
Roughly 80 million prescription painkillers were dispensed in Trumbull County alone between 2012 and 2016 — equivalent to 400 for every resident.
In Lake County, some 61 million pills were distributed during that period.
The rise in physicians prescribing pain medications such as oxycodone and hydrocodone came at a time when medical groups began recognizing that patients have the right to be treated for pain, Kaspar Stoffelmayr, an attorney for Walgreens, said at the opening of the trial.
The problem, he said, was that “pharmaceutical manufacturers tricked doctors into writing way too many pills.”
Wow. This means that every county/state can go after them using this as a precedent.
and I understand it goes before the same judge no matter where the city/county is located....
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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Not since the attack on tobacco has this happened. I have no idea where any of that money went considering I paid out of my own pocket to quit…mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
I knew they were trying for this and did not think it would get a cent from the pharmacies.mickeyrat said:Jury holds pharmacies responsible for role in opioid crisisBy JOHN SEEWER1 hour agoCLEVELAND (AP) — CVS, Walgreens and Walmart pharmacies recklessly distributed massive amounts of pain pills in two Ohio counties, a federal jury said Tuesday in a verdict that could set the tone for U.S. city and county governments that want to hold pharmacies accountable for their roles in the opioid crisis.
Lake and Trumbull counties blamed the three chain pharmacies for not stopping the flood of pills that caused hundreds of overdose deaths and cost each of the two counties about $1 billion, their attorney said.
How much the pharmacies must pay in damages will be decided in the spring by a federal judge.
It was the first time pharmacy companies had completed a trial to defend themselves in a drug crisis that has killed a half-million Americans over the past two decades.
The counties were able to convince the jury that the pharmacies played an outsized role in creating a public nuisance in the way they dispensed pain medication into their communities.
“The law requires pharmacies to be diligent in dealing drugs. This case should be a wake-up call that failure will not be accepted,” said Mark Lanier, an attorney for the counties.
“The jury sounded a bell that should be heard through all pharmacies in America,” Lanier said.
Attorneys for the three pharmacy chains maintained they had policies to stem the flow of pills when their pharmacists had any concerns and would notify authorities about suspicious orders from doctors. They also said it was the doctors who controlled how many pills were being prescribed for legitimate medical needs.
Spokespeople for CVSHealth and Walgreen Co. said the companies disagree with the verdict and will appeal.
“As plaintiffs’ own experts testified, many factors have contributed to the opioid abuse issue, and solving this problem will require involvement from all stakeholders in our health care system and all members of our community," CVS spokesperson Mike DeAngelis said in a statement.
Walgreen spokesperson Fraser Engerman said the company believes the court erred “in allowing the case to go before a jury on a flawed legal theory that is inconsistent with Ohio law."
“As we have said throughout this process, we never manufactured or marketed opioids nor did we distribute them to the ‘pill mills’ and internet pharmacies that fueled this crisis,” Engerman said in a statement. “The plaintiffs’ attempt to resolve the opioid crisis with an unprecedented expansion of public nuisance law is misguided and unsustainable.”
Two other chains — Rite Aid and Giant Eagle — already had settled lawsuits with the two Ohio counties.
Lanier said during the trial that the pharmacies were attempting to blame everyone but themselves.
The opioid crisis has overwhelmed courts, social services agencies and law enforcement in Ohio’s blue-collar corner east of Cleveland, leaving behind heartbroken families and babies born to addicted mothers, Lanier told jurors.
Roughly 80 million prescription painkillers were dispensed in Trumbull County alone between 2012 and 2016 — equivalent to 400 for every resident.
In Lake County, some 61 million pills were distributed during that period.
The rise in physicians prescribing pain medications such as oxycodone and hydrocodone came at a time when medical groups began recognizing that patients have the right to be treated for pain, Kaspar Stoffelmayr, an attorney for Walgreens, said at the opening of the trial.
The problem, he said, was that “pharmaceutical manufacturers tricked doctors into writing way too many pills.”
Wow. This means that every county/state can go after them using this as a precedent.
and I understand it goes before the same judge no matter where the city/county is located....0 -
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I guess I'm blissfully ignorant in that I don't even know what Fentanyl is. (I've hear of it but I don't know a damn thing about it).tempo_n_groove said:100K deaths in a year. Holy cow.
Fentanyl seems to be the leading cause of this. I still ask why you would want to kill off your buyers by using that stuff?
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-11-17/us-overdose-deaths-topped-100-000-in-one-year-officials-say
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The equivalent of 3 rice grains of synthetic fentanyl will kill you. Don't worry I'm sure it'll be ravaging a town near you sooner than later.OnWis97 said:
I guess I'm blissfully ignorant in that I don't even know what Fentanyl is. (I've hear of it but I don't know a damn thing about it).tempo_n_groove said:100K deaths in a year. Holy cow.
Fentanyl seems to be the leading cause of this. I still ask why you would want to kill off your buyers by using that stuff?
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-11-17/us-overdose-deaths-topped-100-000-in-one-year-officials-say
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Jearlpam0925 said:
The equivalent of 3 rice grains of synthetic fentanyl will kill you. Don't worry I'm sure it'll be ravaging a town near you sooner than later.OnWis97 said:
I guess I'm blissfully ignorant in that I don't even know what Fentanyl is. (I've hear of it but I don't know a damn thing about it).tempo_n_groove said:100K deaths in a year. Holy cow.
Fentanyl seems to be the leading cause of this. I still ask why you would want to kill off your buyers by using that stuff?
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-11-17/us-overdose-deaths-topped-100-000-in-one-year-officials-say
Drugs have passed me by...
its like heroin thats on steroids x10
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If you have kids coming of age it's definitely something you would want to have an understanding about.OnWis97 said:
I guess I'm blissfully ignorant in that I don't even know what Fentanyl is. (I've hear of it but I don't know a damn thing about it).tempo_n_groove said:100K deaths in a year. Holy cow.
Fentanyl seems to be the leading cause of this. I still ask why you would want to kill off your buyers by using that stuff?
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-11-17/us-overdose-deaths-topped-100-000-in-one-year-officials-say
Drugs have passed me by...0 -
If anyone is a jeopardy fan Perdue Pharma was a Question last night.0
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Reason # 643 I am glad not to have kids.tempo_n_groove said:
If you have kids coming of age it's definitely something you would want to have an understanding about.OnWis97 said:
I guess I'm blissfully ignorant in that I don't even know what Fentanyl is. (I've hear of it but I don't know a damn thing about it).tempo_n_groove said:100K deaths in a year. Holy cow.
Fentanyl seems to be the leading cause of this. I still ask why you would want to kill off your buyers by using that stuff?
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-11-17/us-overdose-deaths-topped-100-000-in-one-year-officials-say
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I’m given Fentanyl every time I have an endoscopy. It’s controlled in that setting.
To use it at your discretion, willy-nilly? Just seems stupid to me.
Then again, I’m more aware of my mortality now — and the consequences of my life choices — than I was in my teens or even early 20s.0 -
That's a different type of fentanyl. That's the kind they give women, like my wife, when going into labor with an epidural.
Synthetic fentanyl is shipped here in droves from Mexico and China from production plants where it's made stupid cheap and is nearly untraceable.0 -
All fentanyl is synthetic, but you’re correct that the illicit fentanyl imported for the street drug trade is of much lower quality and more dangerous than the pharmaceutical grade fentanyl used in medical applications.Jearlpam0925 said:That's a different type of fentanyl. That's the kind they give women, like my wife, when going into labor with an epidural.
Synthetic fentanyl is shipped here in droves from Mexico and China from production plants where it's made stupid cheap and is nearly untraceable.
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Got it. Yeah the anesthesiologist told us it's definitely not what's on the street.0
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