Bentleyspop said:

mrussel1 said:

Out of My Mind and Time said:

Try 74 million+ token Trump fans. But I hardly don't they still listen to their high school band. Or never even heard of Pearl Jam. Log into your Jason Aldean account you have. You'd be the token flaming lib. 

FJB

Can you try this again in a cogent manner? 

I'll  do it for him...it was a rigged election and all patriotic Americans know that. We love Travis tritt and you're a snowflake.

#FTFG

And....

Let's Go, Brandon

Someone should open a thread with that title and see how long it lasts


  

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

The clips of joe Biden falling asleep at the climate summit are hilarious. Sometimes people take things too serious. If you can’t chuckle at that then …..I don’t know. 

falling asleep? maybe. the way he rubbed his eyes after to me told me he just had dry eyes. it's not like his head was drooping or there was anything else suggesting he was falling asleep. but who knows. 

Ok. Dozing off? Is that better? 

no, I wasn't arguing semantics. It just looks to me like he's resting his eyes, not dozing or falling asleep. But again, I could be wrong. 

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

The clips of joe Biden falling asleep at the climate summit are hilarious. Sometimes people take things too serious. If you can’t chuckle at that then …..I don’t know. 

falling asleep? maybe. the way he rubbed his eyes after to me told me he just had dry eyes. it's not like his head was drooping or there was anything else suggesting he was falling asleep. but who knows. 

Ok. Dozing off? Is that better? 

no, I wasn't arguing semantics. It just looks to me like he's resting his eyes, not dozing or falling asleep. But again, I could be wrong. 

Whatever he’s doing, wasn’t a good look. I don’t take this shit seriously so it was just funny to me. 

I hear ya on both statements. 

but to nicknyr's point, anyone else remember a time when something like this would just be laughed at on late night tv and not used as a weapon against his fitness to lead? (and we did stuff like this against trump as well)

tempo_n_groove said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but to nicknyr's point, anyone else remember a time when something like this would just be laughed at on late night tv and not used as a weapon against his fitness to lead? (and we did stuff like this against trump as well)

Bush puking on the Japanese PM?

hahaha what???

Lerxst1992 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I said all throughout that the dude was too old to be president. 

The problem is that the only alternative to a super old retread was also a super old retread...one who lied from his position more than 10x per day and pretty much hates everyone except his daughter, with whom he has a sick fascination. 

So, I had to pick old Joe over old Don. 

It is sad, not funny, that we pick people who are a few steps from the grave for our toughest job. 

"What you reap, is what you sow."

Maybe some of the younger candidates like Pete or Amy would have had more energy but that's not who "folks" typically vote for. Had either been the nominee we'd be enjoying trumps second term right about now. 

https://www.infoplease.com/us/government/executive-branch/the-top-ten-youngest-us-presidents

Also, regarding Biden being "too old", "sleepy", and all that, remember- Biden got in to the race because like many of us, he was hugely concerned about the possibility of a second Trump term.  I don't think he was exactly thrilled to be running for president, but he knew he had as good or better chance than anyone at beating Trump, and, of course, he did.  I'll bet anything he would have been just as happy having another strong Democrat contender beat Trump and just be able to enjoy his retirement.  I can't even imagine keeping President Biden's busy schedule and he's got 8, almost 9 years on me.  I wish people would cut him some slack, and give due respect.  The alternative to his presidency would, frankly, be fucked up!

Gern Blansten said:

brianlux said:

Also, regarding Biden being "too old", "sleepy", and all that, remember- Biden got in to the race because like many of us, he was hugely concerned about the possibility of a second Trump term.  I don't think he was exactly thrilled to be running for president, but he knew he had as good or better chance than anyone at beating Trump, and, of course, he did.  I'll bet anything he would have been just as happy having another strong Democrat contender beat Trump and just be able to enjoy his retirement.  I can't even imagine keeping President Biden's busy schedule and he's got 8, almost 9 years on me.  I wish people would cut him some slack, and give due respect.  The alternative to his presidency would, frankly, be fucked up!

Agreed... He's doing just fine and has put competent people in position instead of fucking idiots 

Don't  forget the last regime was run by white supremacists who brought in all those fucking idiots

F Me In The Brain said:

brianlux said:

Also, regarding Biden being "too old", "sleepy", and all that, remember- Biden got in to the race because like many of us, he was hugely concerned about the possibility of a second Trump term.  I don't think he was exactly thrilled to be running for president, but he knew he had as good or better chance than anyone at beating Trump, and, of course, he did.  I'll bet anything he would have been just as happy having another strong Democrat contender beat Trump and just be able to enjoy his retirement.  I can't even imagine keeping President Biden's busy schedule and he's got 8, almost 9 years on me.  I wish people would cut him some slack, and give due respect.  The alternative to his presidency would, frankly, be fucked up!

I voted for him and respect what he is trying to do.
Doesn't mean I changed my opinions on electing old people for what is one of the most challenging jobs I can imagine having to do.  

Very thankful he beat out the disaster known as Donald Trump.

I see your point and yes, I would like to see a younger, more energetic president as well, but we really didn't have another choice.  It always seems that way though, the lesser of two evils thing.   Only this time it was old and no longer at the top of his game vs totally screwed.  Easy decision!
So because of the way the situation unfolded and because we have who we have, I think the least we can do is be supportive of our current president. 

brianlux said:

F Me In The Brain said:

brianlux said:

Also, regarding Biden being "too old", "sleepy", and all that, remember- Biden got in to the race because like many of us, he was hugely concerned about the possibility of a second Trump term.  I don't think he was exactly thrilled to be running for president, but he knew he had as good or better chance than anyone at beating Trump, and, of course, he did.  I'll bet anything he would have been just as happy having another strong Democrat contender beat Trump and just be able to enjoy his retirement.  I can't even imagine keeping President Biden's busy schedule and he's got 8, almost 9 years on me.  I wish people would cut him some slack, and give due respect.  The alternative to his presidency would, frankly, be fucked up!

I voted for him and respect what he is trying to do.
Doesn't mean I changed my opinions on electing old people for what is one of the most challenging jobs I can imagine having to do.  

Very thankful he beat out the disaster known as Donald Trump.

I see your point and yes, I would like to see a younger, more energetic president as well, but we really didn't have another choice.  It always seems that way though, the lesser of two evils thing.   Only this time it was old and no longer at the top of his game vs totally screwed.  Easy decision!
So because of the way the situation unfolded and because we have who we have, I think the least we can do is be supportive of our current president. 

And looking at the future, Democrats need to get their shit together.  I have to be honest and say I'm just about ready to bail and go with the Lincoln Project folks.  I'd rather stay Democratic, but our party is starting to look like the people in the church I grew up in who have often been referred to as "the frozen chosen."  Screw that, I want some real progression in the the progressive movement.  I'm sick and tires of wishy-washy.   

So what to do?  Anymore, I almost feel clueless.  Where to turn, what to do.  Just say "shove it" to the whole mess?  I wish (but I won't).

The democrats just keep squandering all of their opportunities. The republicans always seem to have the longest view in the room as far as remaining in power, while the democrats just try to get everything at once and then bitch and complain when that doesn't work (shocker) and then lose the majority for another decade to the party who's more focused. 

Look at abortion. That's been a rallying cry for republicans for DECADES and we may now be on the brink of Roe being overturned. YET the majority of the country is pro choice. Imagine if democrats had that kind of resolve. Imagine if they even mentioned the issue in 2016. You likely wouldn't have had Trump become president and there'd be a solid majority of democrats on the supreme court right now.