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nicknyr15 said:
Because he made jokes about the transgender. And literally everyone else.brianlux said:"Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?
Well, I have to a agree with George Carlin in that you can joke about anything- the point being it's how you go about doing that. I also have to question, are people just being too serious about being kidded? Are we creating a whole generation of thin-skinned people? I'm not saying we are... but maybe.
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gimmesometruth27 said:
i think what the issue is is he has bashed on transgender people for the last several netflix specials and he appears to really be doubling down on making fun of them. i don't see an issue with one joke here and there but a series of them across a series of shows does seem like he may be picking on them.Parksy said:
Story (to the best of my knowledge) goes:brianlux said:"Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?
During his Netflix special The Closer he made offensive remarks about Transgender people. He has been under fire since... and a group of employees at Netflix have staged a walkout in protest. GLAAD is apparently up in arms about it as well as other advocacy groups and such.
I've listened to the bits.... and I can certainly see where they would have an issue. But as is the case with a lot of these 'cancel culture' issues, there are many layers of context that aren't necessarily being discussed.
I have opinions... but I'm interested in seeing others first... as it may sway my opinion. Just off the cuff... it's an interesting listen/watch. And I could be wild here.... but he could have very well done something that seems like an oxymoron....... brutally offended / disrespected Trans people and also brutally backed them up and supported them at the same time, which to me is fascinating.
comedy is only funny when you punch up at the powerful. it is not funny when you punch down on communities that have been ostracized and looked down on for a long time.
Just saw your post, good points. I guess I'll have to check out more of Dave's recent stuff. I also wonder if maybe people being overly sensitive to those first few jokes just egged him on.
I don't know enough either way and I'll check it out, but I do tend to be skeptical about people being too thin skinned- maybe because it took me a long time to not be so much that way myself. In the past, I've been mistaken for being gay. That used to really bug me, especially being called "fag', "faggot", etc. Now I don't care. Call me queer? No, but maybe I was in another life-time. Fine by me! But ask my wife what she thinks about how I am now, lol.
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gimmesometruth27 said:
i think what the issue is is he has bashed on transgender people for the last several netflix specials and he appears to really be doubling down on making fun of them. i don't see an issue with one joke here and there but a series of them across a series of shows does seem like he may be picking on them.Parksy said:
Story (to the best of my knowledge) goes:brianlux said:"Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?
During his Netflix special The Closer he made offensive remarks about Transgender people. He has been under fire since... and a group of employees at Netflix have staged a walkout in protest. GLAAD is apparently up in arms about it as well as other advocacy groups and such.
I've listened to the bits.... and I can certainly see where they would have an issue. But as is the case with a lot of these 'cancel culture' issues, there are many layers of context that aren't necessarily being discussed.
I have opinions... but I'm interested in seeing others first... as it may sway my opinion. Just off the cuff... it's an interesting listen/watch. And I could be wild here.... but he could have very well done something that seems like an oxymoron....... brutally offended / disrespected Trans people and also brutally backed them up and supported them at the same time, which to me is fascinating.
comedy is only funny when you punch up at the powerful. it is not funny when you punch down on communities that have been ostracized and looked down on for a long time.no he isnt punching down. he celebrated their progress .he is critical of reactionary twitter bullshit. he is jealous of how quickly things are changing for that community when the black community continues to face the same egregious shit. he is critical of the mob mentality that doesnt leave room for different thoughts(no matter how fucked up those thoughts can be. you know freedom of expression stuff in the 1st amendment).he is highly indignant at how his friend was treated for defending him and its result.he spoke truth to new power and they dont like it.Post edited by mickeyrat on_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:gimmesometruth27 said:
i think what the issue is is he has bashed on transgender people for the last several netflix specials and he appears to really be doubling down on making fun of them. i don't see an issue with one joke here and there but a series of them across a series of shows does seem like he may be picking on them.Parksy said:
Story (to the best of my knowledge) goes:brianlux said:"Cancelled", such a dumb term but since we're using it here, why would Chappelle be "cancelled"?
During his Netflix special The Closer he made offensive remarks about Transgender people. He has been under fire since... and a group of employees at Netflix have staged a walkout in protest. GLAAD is apparently up in arms about it as well as other advocacy groups and such.
I've listened to the bits.... and I can certainly see where they would have an issue. But as is the case with a lot of these 'cancel culture' issues, there are many layers of context that aren't necessarily being discussed.
I have opinions... but I'm interested in seeing others first... as it may sway my opinion. Just off the cuff... it's an interesting listen/watch. And I could be wild here.... but he could have very well done something that seems like an oxymoron....... brutally offended / disrespected Trans people and also brutally backed them up and supported them at the same time, which to me is fascinating.
comedy is only funny when you punch up at the powerful. it is not funny when you punch down on communities that have been ostracized and looked down on for a long time.no he isnt. he is critical of reactionary twitter bullshit. he is jealous of how quickly things are changing for that community when the black community continues to face the same egregious shit. he is critical of the mob mentality that doesnt leave room for different thoughts(no matter how fucked up those thoughts can be. you know freedom of expression stuff in the 1st amendment).he is highly indignant at how his friend was treated for defending him and its result.he spoke truth to new power and they dont like it.I was just about to post the following and then saw your post. I think this goes along with what you're saying. I also get what gimme is saying. I don't think this issue is totally clear cut/ black and white (so to speak):I know Joe Rogan is not popular some some folks here (I'm have mixed feeling about the guy myself), but maybe put that aside and just listen to what he's saying here and see if it makes sense. I think he makes some good points.
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Some react to Rogan as they do Chappelle.
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mickeyrat said:I dug all of those clips but that last one, oh man, terrific- funny, heartbreaking, solid. Pretty much cuts through all the haze.I was thinking about the two transgender people I know pretty well (known both of them for a good 15 years or so). One of them, Trans A, would listen to those clips and want to verbally slash the dude- they would "cancel" him. They have a real chip on their shoulder and a lot of anger. It sucks and there's really nothing anyone can say to them that is not in total agreement without betting burned for saying it.
The other one, Trans B, would get what Chappelle is saying, maybe even laugh, but surely would not "cancel" the comedian.
So basically, like any group of people, there are differences among them.And I'm saying all this as someone who really struggles with this issue. That later person, Trans B? I knew her as a dude for several years before he was a she. Calling former him "her" has been a fucking struggle and a half for the first year or so. It gets easier, but I still don't fully understand the whole thing. I'm not comfortable with it. Whose problem is that? Yes, mine. But please, don't fucking "cancel" someone like me because I haven't fully figured something out or embraced it. Is it because I'm not "woke"? No, screw that. I'm just trying to learn and be open and honest. And I care about this person a lot. That's easy.And I'm sorry for being pissed off here, but I just hate that whole arrogant "cancel" and "woke" bullshit. I'm for listening, learning, trying to be accepting, but at the same time being free to be honest about how we feel."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Well said, Brian.0
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nicknyr15 said:Netflix employees protesting are free to quit their jobs if they do not like what Chapelle has to say.0
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Thus far, Netflix has stood firm in their defense of Chappelle and their own right, and obligation, to offer diverse points of view, but they appear to be wavering. Their employees are staging walkouts, and the Twitter Taliban smells blood in the water. Netflix needs a show of solidarity to keep their spine stiff. If you believe in freedom of speech, it is in your interest to call them at 844-505-2993 or tweet your support. #istandwithdavenicknyr15 said:
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Love it or leave it? Protest brings awareness. Awareness brings change. Social justice requires a presence.Lerxst1992 said:nicknyr15 said:Netflix employees protesting are free to quit their jobs if they do not like what Chapelle has to say.0 -
On today's episode of 'Cancelled' ... we discuss Aaron Rodgers.
Media types and sports personalities... and people in general are flaming Rodgers for misleading a reporter and the public... and possibly everyone by saying that he was indeed "immunized" after being asked if he was vaccinated and what his thoughts were on the vaccine protocols.
Since those comments, Rodgers was seen on the field and off the field conducting himself as if he was vaccinated when it was later revealed after he tested positive for Covid that he was in fact not.
People view his behaviour as deplorable, misleading, and entitled.
Rodgers himself spoke today and cited that he was in the cross hairs of the 'woke mob cancel culture.' In trying to clarify the situation he said that he learned months prior that he was allergic to some of the ingredients in the mRNA vaccine and requested that the league honour his own homeopathic measures to qualify as vaccinated. The league said no and said that unless he got vaccinated, he would be deemed unvaccinated and as such, would need to follow protocols for the unvaccinated. He also quoted Joe Rogan for helping him and also quoted MLK by saying 'you have a moral obligation to object to unjust rules that make no sense.'
My take: he's a D-Bag.
I've said this many, many, many times before... the problem with "cancel culture" is that more often than not, it will be used as a tactic to deflect blame and excuse ones self from accountability for wrong doing. "I did nothing wrong, this is just the woke mob. I did nothing wrong, this is cancel culture." No Aaron, you're a D-Bag and people are calling you out for being one. You can call it cancel culture all you want, but the truth is, you proved yourself to be a doosh, people called you a doosh, but you can't accept that what you did was dooshy, so you're blaming cancel culture, which makes you an even bigger doosh. And quoting MLK? Seriously?
Aside from him, if the team knew he wasn't vaccinated but was knowingly allowing him to break protocols time and time again, they should be punished.
It'll be interesting to see where this goes if it goes anywhere at all.
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Somehow... Tebow equated this situation to 'if Rodgers gets punished for lying, don't you have to punish everyone for lying about anything.' To which the host then says 'Good point.'
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