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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    April please and thank you.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,550
    100 Pacer said:
    April please and thank you.
  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,900
    vedpunk said:
    At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates.  If the borders are closed, so be it.  Serving the local fans might do them some good.    If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows.  If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you.  The rest of us are ready to move forward.  
    And if anything, the fan-to-fan exchange would open back up to help plan ahead. If people cannot travel for any reason (pandemic, new dates don’t work, etc), fans have a way to unload tickets and others don’t pay marked up prices. 
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,007
    vedpunk said:
    At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates.  If the borders are closed, so be it.  Serving the local fans might do them some good.    If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows.  If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you.  The rest of us are ready to move forward.  
    There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.  


    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    SVRDhand13 said:
    vedpunk said:
    At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates.  If the borders are closed, so be it.  Serving the local fans might do them some good.    If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows.  If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you.  The rest of us are ready to move forward.  
    There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.  


    I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    PJNB said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    vedpunk said:
    At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates.  If the borders are closed, so be it.  Serving the local fans might do them some good.    If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows.  If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you.  The rest of us are ready to move forward.  
    There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.  


    I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
    Not too many venues can sell out over four nights.  Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 658
    I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is. 
    Boston '06
    Mansfield '08
    Hartford '10
    Worcester, Hartford '13
    Global Citizen, NY '15
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,785
    DM282158 said:
    I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is. 
    I wonder if there’s a certain % of people who are just not interested in going to large events any more, not so much because of safety, but because they’ve adjusted to living without it and are content not to go back, having found other ways to spend their time and money.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    vedpunk said:
    At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates.  If the borders are closed, so be it.  Serving the local fans might do them some good.    If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows.  If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you.  The rest of us are ready to move forward.  
    There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.  


    I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
    Not too many venues can sell out over four nights.  Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.  
    When 2020 are rescheduled and I arrive for the Hamilton show to find out I’m the only one there,  I’m pretty sure I will still have a blast.  However this will make  bathroom breaks a little awkward……” hey Mike can you hold that guitar solo until I get back?” 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,785
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    vedpunk said:
    At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates.  If the borders are closed, so be it.  Serving the local fans might do them some good.    If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows.  If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you.  The rest of us are ready to move forward.  
    There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.  


    I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
    Not too many venues can sell out over four nights.  Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.  
    When 2020 are rescheduled and I arrive for the Hamilton show to find out I’m the only one there,  I’m pretty sure I will still have a blast.  However this will make  bathroom breaks a little awkward……” hey Mike can you hold that guitar solo until I get back?” 
    I’ll save your spot.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    RatherStarved said:
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    vedpunk said:
    At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates.  If the borders are closed, so be it.  Serving the local fans might do them some good.    If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows.  If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you.  The rest of us are ready to move forward.  
    There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.  


    I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
    Not too many venues can sell out over four nights.  Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.  
    When 2020 are rescheduled and I arrive for the Hamilton show to find out I’m the only one there,  I’m pretty sure I will still have a blast.  However this will make  bathroom breaks a little awkward……” hey Mike can you hold that guitar solo until I get back?” 
    I’ll save your spot.  
    Deal 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,982
    RatherStarved said:
    DM282158 said:
    I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is. 
    I wonder if there’s a certain % of people who are just not interested in going to large events any more, not so much because of safety, but because they’ve adjusted to living without it and are content not to go back, having found other ways to spend their time and money.
    I usually take my kids to 3 or 4 NBA games every year.  We’re all vaccinated but we’re going to skip it this year.  Just rather be on the safe side and the NBA will be there next year.  Pearl Jam is a different story.  I will attend if the shows go forward. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    vedpunk said:
    At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates.  If the borders are closed, so be it.  Serving the local fans might do them some good.    If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows.  If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you.  The rest of us are ready to move forward.  
    Agreed. 
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  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 658
    RatherStarved said:
    DM282158 said:
    I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is. 
    I wonder if there’s a certain % of people who are just not interested in going to large events any more, not so much because of safety, but because they’ve adjusted to living without it and are content not to go back, having found other ways to spend their time and money.
    Very, very good point. 
    Boston '06
    Mansfield '08
    Hartford '10
    Worcester, Hartford '13
    Global Citizen, NY '15
  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    vedpunk said:
    At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates.  If the borders are closed, so be it.  Serving the local fans might do them some good.    If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows.  If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you.  The rest of us are ready to move forward.  
    There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.  


    I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
    Not too many venues can sell out over four nights.  Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.  
    When 2020 are rescheduled and I arrive for the Hamilton show to find out I’m the only one there,  I’m pretty sure I will still have a blast.  However this will make  bathroom breaks a little awkward……” hey Mike can you hold that guitar solo until I get back?” 
    Just go during Evenflow. You got time!
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    on2legs said:
    RatherStarved said:
    DM282158 said:
    I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is. 
    I wonder if there’s a certain % of people who are just not interested in going to large events any more, not so much because of safety, but because they’ve adjusted to living without it and are content not to go back, having found other ways to spend their time and money.
    I usually take my kids to 3 or 4 NBA games every year.  We’re all vaccinated but we’re going to skip it this year.  Just rather be on the safe side and the NBA will be there next year.  Pearl Jam is a different story.  I will attend if the shows go forward. 
    100% same boat, just a different NBA home team :lol:

    I will add that I’ll be trying for a suite or something if they play arenas.  Not doing GA
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    I refunded the last of my shows besides Baltimore the other day.  

    I disagree with whoever said there wont be empty arenas.  There will be.  Not everywhere, but there will be some.  QBC wasn’t even sold out before the pandemic, and now with mention of 10k+ seats to sell, you don’t think that show will be empty?
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,982
    Weston1283 said:
    I refunded the last of my shows besides Baltimore the other day.  

    I disagree with whoever said there wont be empty arenas.  There will be.  Not everywhere, but there will be some.  QBC wasn’t even sold out before the pandemic, and now with mention of 10k+ seats to sell, you don’t think that show will be empty?
    The more likely prediction instead of empty is probably not a sellout.  I got shut out of tickets to 3 different shows that I was interested in going to during the lottery. I think there will be a bunch of fans who got shutout the first time who would snap up a lot of the refunded tickets. But maybe not quite a sellout everywhere.  I just hope Ticketmaster puts those tickets into the exchange as promised and we don’t see the best seats filtered to scalpers. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,007
    Weston1283 said:
    I refunded the last of my shows besides Baltimore the other day.  

    I disagree with whoever said there wont be empty arenas.  There will be.  Not everywhere, but there will be some.  QBC wasn’t even sold out before the pandemic, and now with mention of 10k+ seats to sell, you don’t think that show will be empty?
    I think we have different definitions of empty. 

    Who said 10k tickets to sell? Sounds like pure speculation to me (which is all of this thread). 
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18

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